November 18th, 2019


Bon Scott once sang about it. And Joe witnessed it yesterday.

For a period of time in the second half, what the New Orleans Saints did to the right side of the Bucs’ offensive line looked like a complete and total jailbreak spearheaded by Cam Jordan.

Demar Dotson didn’t have a prayer. Jordan ate him for lunch.

America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, didn’t have a prayer. He didn’t even have time to drop back into the pocket and Jordan was on top of him. It’s a wonder poor Jameis didn’t get cracked ribs.

No quarterback would have or could have done a thing with that kind of a pass rush yesterday.

Lakisha Wesseling of NFL.com watched this jailbreak and even she noted the Bucs were doomed by the Saints defensive line.

[Jameis] was under pressure and getting hit the entire game, even having to throw the ball left-handed a few times to complete a pass. He scrambled for 23 yards which was the longest run by the Bucs today. He suffered a left ankle injury toward the end but stayed in the game. He finished 30-of-51 for 313 yards, two TDs and two sacks.

That’s how bad it was at one point: Jameis’ only prayer of completing a pass was to toss the ball as a southpaw.

There was a string of about six plays where no matter what the Bucs tried (extra blockers, chipping, max protect) didn’t matter. They all crumbled and caved in front of Jordan and company.

Joe isn’t sure what the Bucs can do next year to repair it. Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians is against drafting offensive linemen because he said you would be developing them for the next coach. Understandable for a win-now coach.

So how does one repair the line? Does Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht go out with, say, $20 million of Team Glazer loot and buy two more linemen? And just what kind of linemen are going to be beating down the door to play here given that the Bucs will likely be drafting at No. 6 next April?

65 Responses to “Jailbreak”

  1. BucsBandit Says:

    He didn’t throw the ball left handed “a few times.” What a crock of crap.

    Stop making excuses for Jameis. Good QBs beat the blitz with quick passes. Something Jameis hold-the-ball-for-as-long-as-it-takes-to-watch-an-entire-series-on-NetFlix Winston is incapable of doing. The Saints kept blitzing because Winston was unable to stop it.

    Sorry, but Winston sucks. The O-Line has ranked middle of the league in pass protection. You can’t blame his ineptitude on the OL all the time. Winston has mostly played better against weaker teams with the exception of his game against the Rams.

    Winston sucks. Accept it. The Bucs need to let him go and start a new era. Accept it.

  2. Jean Lafitte Says:

    Here it is ..just knew it was coming.

  3. Jean Lafitte Says:

    How about short passes? I didn’t see him try. He had a check down the whole game but instead he watched the pass rush instead of getting the ball out. You can’t constantly give this guy cover. Let him own up to some of the mayhem as well.

  4. Deez days Says:

    Well … that’s the reason he got picked off 4 times … and the reason why he threw south paw because he makes bone headed decisions … better to take a sack and live to fight another play… would be one less pick 6 … and 2 less faulty picks … I’ll take the first one away from him that was OJ … end of story he’s never gonna learn

  5. Deez days Says:

    ^^^^ and yes jean you are correct … find the short pass … he never does this … that was one of Brad Johnson’s favorite moves … as much as I hated his short passing it was smart and it was effective

  6. Defense Rules Says:

    BucsBandit & Jean Lafitte … I don’t know if either or both of you focused on what was happening to Jameis all game long, but he was frazzled right from the git-go. His receivers weren’t getting any separation at all & you could literally sense the panic in his movements in the pocket.

    Our game-plan was a joke … a very bad joke … and Jameis was the proverbial deer in the headlights. BA’s vertical passing offense is a dinosaur without a very stout OLine to protect the QB. Predictable result? A loss and bunches of TOs against a quality defense.

    Example: plays were almost even (64 Saints to 61 Bucs). Saints used a BALANCED ATTACK focusing on rushing & short passing, produced 328 total yards, and held the ball for 37:00. Bucs in contrast went passing heavy, produced 334 yards (more), but held the ball for only 23:00. Brees threw for 80% completion rate (28-of-35) using a very high percentage of short passes all over the field. Jameis threw for 58.8% (30-of-51) using more intermediate & deep, long-developing passes. The disparity in TOP & TOs is striking, BUT predictable given the game plans & quality of beasts in the trenches. Dumb dumb dumb.

  7. Kobe Faker Says:

    “The top offensive foods run the short passing attack to slow down the blitz and QB pressure by getting the ball out play after play

    Then the defenses back off

    The #1 short pass route in this modern NFl offense is the short shallow cross

    The Bucs threw their first 1 this year yesterday. Godwin caught it and went for 30 yards. It had 5 air yards and was highly probable.


    However the key to slow the QB pressure is that the playcaller must dial that play continuously to show the defense they will pass it right behind the blitz and burn them nonstop

    BAs ancient offense doesnt work

    If it did as t least 1 other team would use it”

    Kobe Simpleton Faker

  8. Kobe Faker Says:

    Offensive coords

  9. isrBuc Says:

    BA said so many things and you keep clinging on it like it’s god’s message to Moses. Most of the things he said were at a time he thought he’s going to take this team to the playoffs. Things changed since, hopefully his thinking as well.

  10. HereWeGoAgain Says:

    excuses… excuses… we’ve had 5 years too many of them!

  11. Defense Rules Says:

    BINGO Kobe. Other teams do that to us all the time. Almost impossible to stop the completion when QBs like Brees & Wilson employ it, but can limit the yards gained at least. Stopping those quickies though is more on the LBs (and possibly nickel) than on the CBs. But if the LBs sell out for the blitz or to stop the run, Katie bar the door.

  12. Alanbucsfan Says:

    At the end of the day, it is all the yards, turnovers, red zone plays, third-down conversions, time of possession,kicks and penalties that decides which team wins the game.

    Yards: Saints 337. Bucs 349
    Turnovers: Saints. 0. Bucs 4
    Red Zone plays: The Saints had 9 and were ahead 20-0 before the Bucs had 1
    3rd down conversions: Saints. 53.85%. Bucs 38.46%
    Time of Possession: Saints 37. Bucs 23
    Penalties: Saints 9. Bucs 7
    Kicks: Lutz and Gay made all their kicks

    So why did the Bucs lose?
    They couldn’t sustain any drives on offense and they turned it over

    But Jameis was great

  13. DislocatedBucsFan Says:

    DS76 was as bad if not worse! Funny how you omit that joe.

  14. TDTB Says:

    Second Kobe Faker.

  15. DaBux Says:

    And another excuse after 5 years of excuses. Next up “the sun was in his eyes.”

  16. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    There is VOMIT in my coffee cup …….

  17. passthebuc Says:

    definition of insanity is repeating the same action and expecting a different outcome.

  18. passthebuc Says:

    eventually, the game will slow down for JW.

  19. Zzbuc Says:

    Joe, come on now!!U kust can’t be serious !!
    Evidence is everywhere.
    JW is not the a answer for the future of this franchise, he turns de ball over to many times, and on NFL there is no more ron for that unless you are called Payton Manning.
    We have to move on frim him and from Licht

  20. Bucsfanman Says:

    He had WRs open. Play #3: Jameis rolls right out of the pocket, OJ is open at 10, another WR open at 15. Jameis throws 25 yds downfield to covered WR, Bucs punt.
    I think the gameplan was crap, and I will contend that you simply cannot all out abandon the running game that early in the game. With 51 attempts, I’m not sure what anyone expected. Of course he didn’t have time! The defense KNEW he was throwing.

  21. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Same question about Jamyth’s game as there was before the draft…..and same excuses…since BA uses his own math tallying Jamyth’s INT’s…the Geology Department at FSU measures Jamyth’s progress….

  22. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Watch now…Jamyth not playing due to his ankle injury will still hurt the Bucs draft slot….if you know what I mean Vern……

  23. Easy Says:

    It’s called “adjusting” to the game. I swear this Joe will defend Jameis till the end.

  24. Bob in Valrico Says:

    Its no secret that we needed to have a plan to replace an aging Dotson prior to
    this year. That said good DE’s beat offensive tackles on a regular basis league wide. Chip blocks, H backs or extra O lineman are all options to help protect.
    IMO ,Jameis is often affected by good D lines almost before the game starts.
    One of his first passes was thrown at defenders back on the numbers. Yes, Jameis has absorbed a lot of punishment through the fault of our O line and his penchant for holding the ball too long.
    I am starting to wonder if Jameis is the next David Carr who has taken so many hits that its affecting his game.

  25. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    BucsBandit Says
    “He didn’t throw the ball left handed “a few times.” What a crock of crap.”

    Actually, yes he did. They even showed it on replay. Denying the truth does not erase it.

    As to the rest of you, Winston did not have time for ‘short passes’. As he was being hit from the sides, the middle collapsed on him. You can talk all you want about short passes, but the opportunity for them was not there.

    You biased haters call them excuses. Smart people recognise cause and effect.

  26. Bird Says:

    Thanks obsessed joe

    Cover it up
    Look somewhere else

    Again …you look horrible
    It started after the Pitt game

    The false 5 year narrative
    Dumb . Dem balls got you too

  27. Noles Says:

    Glazers want to move the Bucs to London….

  28. Northend Says:

    This isn’t on Jameis. This staff and the offensive game plan set him up for failure. Try mixing in hi tempo ,quick release routes to combat the blitz. Spread em out. Keep Jameis mobile.
    Basic stuff being ignored by our freshman play caller.

  29. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    LOL, yeah Joe the line played excellent yesterday and everything was JW fault. If you don’t write 40 articles about how bad he is and nothing else you are just making excuses! Sincerely, BucsBandit & Jean!

  30. Greg Says:

    So glad people are not falling for Joe’s BS anymore. Was Winston constantly under pressure? Absolutely. But an eight-year-old playing Madden‘s knows how to do a hot route or change a plate to give quick options. Screen passes, slants, quick outs, come back routes such as a hook route. The problem also is that our offense of line is not athletic enough to Paul and create running lanes. Our running backs are also getting killed. Second most expensive offense of line in the league. Jason light is garbage and set this team up to fail. Jason Pierre Paul Shaq Barrett and Sue are all gone after this year. Who are our pass rushers going to be next year? Could’ve drafted a great one this year but went linebacker. Our GM is retarded. And for you oversensitive types retarded means to hold back or hinder.

  31. Greg Says:

    Siri cant spell this morning. Sorry for all the typos but I think you guys can figure it out.

  32. ElBajito43 Says:

    I miss Dirk Koetter

  33. Robert Says:

    lol……..too bad he is still upright.

    didn’t watch the game. knew JW would throw 4 picks. he was overdue.

  34. JP_09 Says:

    The good news is Ariana won’t draft O-linemen. You should ask him about that statement he made in the offseason Joe.

  35. SteelStudBuc Says:

    Crazy Pro Bowl Joe forgot the most important stat… omitted cuz if you pretend it didn’t happen… it didn’t happen…


  36. gotbbucs Says:

    When we got the ball back with 5 minutes and some change remaining, I knew exactly what was coming. INT.

  37. Kenny Says:

    Why not try using 2 tight ends like the Ravens… We have 2 of the best in the NFL, both are decent blockers… anything helps.

  38. Bobby M. Says:

    Cant blame Dotson for being a 34 yr old starter…..If a team says they’ll pay you to be out there, you’ll take that check to the bank and do your best. That’s on the GM who put an emphasis on being cute in the draft far to often. Hargreaves, Aguayo, Spence, Stewart….all reaches. Linemen aren’t sexy picks but the trenches are where you win consistently and an absolute need for a QB with issues of inconsistency. I really believe Licht thought he had the next Tom Brady, that Winstons “talent” would offset the roster’s deficiencies….Winston would carry the team game after game. Its been a severe miscalculation by Licht. This team needs a top 5 line…top 10 running game and top 10 defense…..That’s impossible to put together with a QB making $25 million per year and a GM who cant draft.

  39. #1bucfan Says:

    This whole team played bad not just Winston or the secondary. The way they played tells me they are playing for the draft an not for pride even tho BA an the organization won’t admit it. They are playing for the draft no way this team plays that bad by accident. Sick of it. Go Bucs

  40. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    AlteredEgo Says:
    “Watch now…Jamyth not playing due to his ankle injury will still hurt the Bucs draft slot….if you know what I mean Vern……”

    The staff is obviously using Jameis to help replace Jameis. Tanking on the downlow. Tell him to rub some dirt on the ankle and get back in the game!

  41. Sharthappens Says:

    Great article Joe. Now do us all a favor and start putting some pressure on BA during today’s presser. I promise you, he won’t hurt you.

  42. 2020 What is the bucs future plan? Says:


  43. 813bucboi Says:

    so we have a HC that doesnt like drafting OLinemen and doesnt have an offense that features TEs even though we need Oline help and 2 very good TEs….lol…

    this is crazy….lol…

    GO BUCS!!!!!

  44. TB22 Says:

    So there could be a Quenton Nelson type OL sitting there in the draft and the Bucs wont draft him because Bruce Arians doesn’t like drafting OL?

    Please kidnap BA on draft day and get rid of that bum Licht before then. Otherwise, we are screwed again.

    Sounds like typical Buc dysfunction. You build your team in the trenches and at QB.

  45. ElioT Says:

    The game plan was garbage and there were no adjustments to make the Saints pay for all the blitzes.

    Lattimore was out and Evans & Godwin had what 2 targets in the first half?

    Rojo gets four carries and when the Bucs were all screen happy, it was #44 even though Rojo was a monster with the passes last week. I swear BA is crazy taking Rojo out because 44 is the “best blocker”. Most of those plays he didn’t even stay in to block and when he did Winston still got rocked.

    Down by 10 with plenty of time, it’s pass, pass, pass, pass… I mean why not try to establish the rush and slow the game down a bit?

    Do those Microsoft Surface tablets get WiFi?

    If so, Byron should have been googling “how to beat blitz”.

    Zero adjustments at the line, no quick hitting WR screens, slants, drags, quick dives out of the shotgun…

    Just drop back and take the beating all day complete with looks of bewilderment all over the place.

    Totally outclassed by Dennis freaking Allen all day long.

    Love that Arians is giving BL that OTJ Training in what was a crucial season for this team. Thanks Brucie Baby!

    This is really bad folks.

  46. edgrofred Says:

    Thin Lizzy’s Jailbreak better then AC/DC’s obscure song of the same title! A question for Joe and readers: If Belichick or Andy Reid were our coach with current roster would we be better? My opinion is yes as these coaches seem to win with who ever they put out on the field. Ariens/Leftwich/Bowles have continued our bottom dwelling ways, no doubt in my mind we will be at the bottom of the South yet again.

  47. Oneilbucs Says:

    Why are you guys so in to getting rid of Jamies? We need a offensive line and a defense that’s the more important things we need on this team. Ain’t no quarterback is going to help us next year. I get it you guys hate Jamies ok . I’m more about the team you guys are about the quarterback. I don’t care who the quarterback is if you can’t block or run the ball and play defense you are going to lose regardless who the quarterback is. What happened to the Panthers quarterback he was supposed to be good. I’m tired of all passes thrown 10 to 30 yards up the field. That’s the play book that Jamies have been stuck with since he came to Tampa. Drew Brees dink and dunk up the field on us the hold game . I watch Brady do the same thing but their defense is good and that’s why they win games Brady is not the reason why they win.

  48. Troy Says:

    BA is over his head. So is Licht. This is a professional league. Neither of them act like it.

  49. BrianBucs Says:

    She forgot to mention Winston’s 4 picks.
    This is the O-Line that Licht put together and decided to roll with.
    The left side of the line got roasted a few times also.

  50. Stanglassman Says:

    For those of us who watched the game and knew what we were seeing the four picks were not the reason of the outcome. No separation by WRs and poor OL protection were but bigger issues. I’m getting concerned because this offense is looking bad and because it’s producing points the coaches don’t seem to be fixing the problems. This isn’t the first week we’ve seen zero separation and Jameis running for his life. It’s got to be addressed.

  51. Brandon Says:

    I was at the game. The Oline did a fantastic job most of the time. Receivers were not getting open and ALL pass plays took way too long to develop. Even the circle route TD to Barber took forever to come out. There are no intermediate or short routes run with the majority of these plays. This play design is crap. The Saints scheme ways to get their players open. These plays and route tree/combos are horrific.

  52. Brandon Says:

    Sorry guys, the line was pretty good. You can’t hold blocks forever when waiting for receivers to pop open downfield on late breaking routes. Leftwich’s offense is a huge problem.

  53. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    BucsBandit Says:
    “He didn’t throw the ball left handed “a few times.” What a crock of crap.”


    He did, indeed. 3 times.
    1 was a completion, and 2 were throw-aways while under pressure.

  54. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    My fiancé likes to watch the Bucs games with me, but she has not been watching for years like the rest of us, so sometimes her observations are refreshing.

    For the record, she does not seem to be much of a Jameis fan, although she knows that I have been.

    But what she said is, “How is he supposed to get anything accomplished??? Every time he steps back there are 2 or 3 guys in his face.”

    Sometimes the innocent musings of those who do not eat, breathe & sleep football like the rest of us……… do say a lot.

  55. Buccfan37 Says:

    Difficult to watch these swatted aside Bucs. The Saints do look like SB contenders though. The Bucs look more like a expansion team mess.

  56. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    ^^ In spite of my earlier comment, I still feel like JW was kinda garbage yesterday, unfortunately. But he was about 11th on the list of stinkiness, lol.

  57. Doctor Stroud Says:

    The league will keep doing something until it stops working. If you don’t like defenses blitzing, find a way to stop it!

  58. unbelievable Says:

    As usual, Defense Rules summed it up perfectly.

    The gameplan on offense was absolutely terrible.

    51 passes vs. 6 runs? Are you fking kidding me? 51 passes, with your offensive line collapsing from both the left and right side, as well as the center. Where the hell is the QB supposed to move to to get a throw off?

    This was exactly like that last game against them.

    Even Mike Evans said they did the exact same thing as last time. So what did our offensive geniuses BA and BL do differently?

    Nothing. That’s what we’re paying an army of coaches for- to do nothing.

  59. RustyRhinos Says:

    With this statement from the Head Coach. “Bucco Bruce Arians is against drafting offensive linemen because he said you would be developing them for the next coach.” Why would ownership want an organizational plan like this fully seeing with their own eyes. That Oline is a known need of improvement, for the team to improve going forward. So if they stay with this “plan” will our Oline ever get better? Will this plan be successful for the long term? It sure sounds like we are going to be in the market for Vet Oline, and we should be. But at the expense of not allotting higher draft resources to that organizational need. Yes a Veteran good or better T, G, C, And a Good or better T,G,C one in first three Pick’s. Helps build long term Oline draft players to push whoever is in front of them at position of need. Our said position on drafting Oline does not sound very long term sustainable success.

  60. firethecannons Says:

    draft a decent right tackle and get a better o-line teacher if they cant get em game 1 ready
    not rocket science–every other team has same damn problem, deal with it and start getting all your scouting done by now

  61. firethecannons Says:

    Meanwhile Falcons won–what did they to Saints that Bucs didn’t? How did they deal with the pass rush?

  62. JimmyJack Says:

    What are y’all talking about that it’s an excuse? The freaking pass blocking was atrocious yesterday. And Winston had a bad game too. Y’all do realize both can have bad games don’t you? Apparently not.

    It’s so dumb the whole team is a trainwreck. And guess what? Our pass catchers we’re effing terrible yesterday too. It’s not a excuse for nothing it’s what freaking happened……..And it don’t even end there cause the game plan absolutely sucked. 7 step drops all day just allowing the pass rush to get us. 1st play of the game was a nice run play and we call three more the whole rest of game.

    It was a freaking pitiful display of both coaching and players. The only people wrong about who they are blaming is if you’re trying to blame just one thing. Freaking team was awful, especially the offense, from head to toe.

  63. Cgmaster27 Says:

    @brandon the offensive line was pretty good? What the hell game were you watching? Clealry not the same one as the rest of us.

  64. stpetebucsfan Says:


    Exactly. The two are not mutually exclusive. JW had some times without a chance…but he had opportunities….he simply does not throw the ball that well…or should I say consistently. He can make some incredible throws…he’s athletic..left handed pass!

    But we always talk about is bad breaks…bad bounces…stupid targets like OJ hosing him…but what about his LUCK. Last week got away with a near interception in the end zone that turned out to be a pin ball play which Perriman converted.

    The TD to Godwin was TOTALLY Godwin…horrible throw…somehow caught by Godwin and taken to the house.

    That’s two TD’s in the last week that were credited to JW that were pure luck. JW like any player has bad luck and good luck.

  65. Siege the Bay Says:

    How do you miss on ALL of the db’s!!!!

    Vernan Hargraves
    Ryan Smith,
    Justin Evans,
    MJ Stweart
    Carlton Davis

    I’m not including the rookies just to be fair, but I have a feeling they will be added to the list after next season.

    What a terrible GM.