Bucs Beating Bucs (Rewind)
November 17th, 2019
Talks mental errors.
Boy, when the Bucs put their minds to it, they sure do come up with creative ways to hand games over to their opponents.
Of course, what would a Bucs game at the Den of Depression be if the Bucs didn’t make dumb moves? There was the old (Demar Dotson getting flagged for a false start on a critical third-and-one play) and the new (O.J. Howard trying to Be Like Mike and pull a behind-the-back ankle breaker that likely was a backbreaker for the Bucs).
Howard talked about the Bucs beating the Bucs in his postgame remarks this afternoon.
“We know we have the talent and we know we have a great team,” Howard said. “We’ve just got to put it all together and we’ve got to stop beating ourselves.”
Of course, Howard admitted his stunt, which will live in infamy thanks to NFL Films bloopers, was a key reason the Bucs got so far behind early.
Joe doesn’t deny the Bucs have the physical talent. What Joe doesn’t know is if the Bucs have the mental talent. And Joe doesn’t know how or if a coach or general manager can fix that.
The Bucs have tried a player’s coach (Dirk Koetter) and a hardass coach (Bucco Bruce Arians). And still the Bucs made dumb mistake after dumb mistake.
Joe is quickly concluding this is an unrepairable problem.
November 17th, 2019 at 6:26 pm
Bad coaching again today by Bucco Bruce.
November 17th, 2019 at 6:27 pm
That turnover was a catalyst but it doesn’t answer why the Bucs could only muster 17 points today.
This offense looked like a high school team
November 17th, 2019 at 6:27 pm
“Kobe Faker is going to say the honest truth-
If Sean Peyton and saints DC Dennis Allen swapped teams and the
Bucs was coached by Peyton and his schemes
BUCS WOULD WIN 10 OUT OF 10 times
BA is ancient and cant win”
Kobe from the heart
November 17th, 2019 at 6:27 pm
I blame OJ’s Garo like bobble botch on me…I showered him with praise prior to the game.
#JonnyJinx
The Den of Depression/Debacles lives on.
November 17th, 2019 at 6:29 pm
The Saints have a better team.
Better OLine
Better QB
Better RB
Better D Line
Better Secondary
So if you lose the turnover battle 4-0 when you are facing this, you have no chance.
November 17th, 2019 at 6:29 pm
Plus our defense gave up only a FG when they got that turnover on our side of the field
November 17th, 2019 at 6:33 pm
Kobe has been watching Drew Brees for the last 15 years
this Brees today was not the same Brees
this version (hand/age) was 50% effective of 2 years ago
He couldnt throw a 15 yeard out if his life depended on it
he threw crosses and rb dump screens all day
This saints team will get destroyed in the playoffs
November 17th, 2019 at 6:34 pm
This team was unprepared and out coached
GO BUCS
November 17th, 2019 at 6:34 pm
OJ has done more this year to hurt the team then to help & that’s just a fact. He is not nearly the great pass catching weapon all y’all try to say he is.
Personally I’m perfectly fine moving forward with this team without OJ. Brate does just fine for me. Call me crazy but I just got a little hangup for pass catchers who can…..you know, catch.
Evans with another disappointing game too. Getting sick and tired of him being an unreliable reciever in multiple games per year. Freaking annoying.
November 17th, 2019 at 6:36 pm
OJ en s wrong. The Bucs have very few talented players….. this is not a talented roster by any means!!
November 17th, 2019 at 6:37 pm
OJ is just another example of poor personnel decisions by a horrible GM. We spent a 1st rd pick on a TE that can’t play while ignoring the most important position on offense, the OL. There was no reason to draft him with Brate on the roster!
What a joke!The word overrated comes to mind.
November 17th, 2019 at 6:40 pm
Blow it up.
November 17th, 2019 at 6:49 pm
Bye bye Arians.
November 17th, 2019 at 6:49 pm
Players are not disciplined. We as fans can predict the outcome of the game. When I look at teams like the patriots, they are disciplined n play mistake free ball. No way Belicheat, Peyton,Andy Reed, even Gruden put up with consistent mistakes Winston make i.e., fumbles, ints, over/under throws, etc. How will the rookies learn from vets making same bonehead mistakes during critical/crunch time, vets such as DDotson consistent with bonehead penalties, DSmith, soft, passive, n scared (embarrassing). The only player on offense that plays beast mode consistently is CGodwin. Perriman need to be cut, he’s a waste. I see Scotty Miller the rookie is trying to step it up up, n he will cause unlike Perriman, SMiller is not passive but determined n hungry. Please sit O.J. Howard down n add Tanner Hudson to the starting lineup. If O.J. isn’t injured he’s missing passes or fumbling, n he’s soft at blocking. MEvans May have his days at making plays but he’s not a game changer. The Saints do not respect his presence as one would a Jerry Rice, TO, Antonio Brown, Randy Moss, Michael Irvin, Joey Galloway, etc. Evans should be known more for his game changing abilities than known as ME.
November 17th, 2019 at 6:54 pm
Why the hell is BA still challenging those PI calls?
November 17th, 2019 at 7:08 pm
Need to mic up BA on the sidelines so the fans can at least have something to laugh at besides the team play.
November 17th, 2019 at 7:08 pm
This team is light years away from a playoff team. Bruce Arians is not going to flip sh_t with this team. This team needs a partial rebuild O-Line, QB, RB, and some free agent help on defense. I.E. Defensive backfield Byron Jones, Marcus Peters or Chris Harris take your choice.
November 17th, 2019 at 7:10 pm
O J Howard sure doesn’t look a #1 pick does he.
November 17th, 2019 at 7:10 pm
Bruce Arians did not forget how to coach FFS. This is an Occum’s Razor deal. We don’t have good players. Period.
November 17th, 2019 at 7:11 pm
Arians–what a piece of over hyped crap!
November 17th, 2019 at 7:15 pm
In both games vs the Saints this year their dline destroyed our oline. I’m addition to that Cam Jordan talked trash about D Smith in the off-season. So they just bring it all day vs our oline and there is simply nothing we can do about it. They are just better end of story and if anyone else thinks there’s more to it than that is sadly mistaken. Same can be said for their oline vs our dline.
In addition to that no one can seem to get open vs this team accept Brate.
November 17th, 2019 at 7:16 pm
If you switch QBs today the Saints win 48-3, cause Kobe is right Brees is done.
November 17th, 2019 at 7:30 pm
you said Bridgewater wasn’t good now you think he’d done better than Brees
We should go after Bridgewater next season
November 17th, 2019 at 7:32 pm
good playoff defenses will flood the short passing lanes
they will dare Brees to throw deep front of the safeties
they miss mark ingram to convert 3rd and short and wearing out the defenses in the 4th quarter
November 17th, 2019 at 7:38 pm
I’m getting sick of hearing the cliche “we need to stop beating ourselves.” No you got beat by the saints. They kicked the bucs ass all over the field. Bucs got beat by saints.
November 17th, 2019 at 8:09 pm
Please Buc fans..Stop clutching them prayer beads and wishin and a hoppin. I told you all we were gonna lose. The Saints are a far superior team than we are. ATL caught them sleeping. And this week, there was no way in hell there D was gonna lay down. Didn’t you see it? Stevie Wonder saw it! They bull rushed our O line and beat..them..DOWN! Bruce rains talked a lot of smack before the season..Remember? Now he clearly see’s. He’s gonna have to do some surgery on this cancerous Buc losing team! Batter up Bruce..You’s gonna have to earn them duckies baby!
November 17th, 2019 at 8:10 pm
Funny Very funny Who pn this team other than Mr Whiney has talent
November 17th, 2019 at 8:19 pm
Hey I have a challenge for all you Bucs fans instead of talking crap about your team all week because that’s the new thing to do today is talk about why me how about talk about how we are going to kick arse! Support your team or get out! We don’t need you around!
November 17th, 2019 at 8:35 pm
TIME TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF TWO OR MORE BUCS.BA–CUT THEM OR SIT THEM.TOUGH TIMES REQUIRE TOUGH RESPONSES
November 17th, 2019 at 8:43 pm
Sometimes the team you play is better than you. The Saints are just a better team than the Bucs. We should lose that game. Not happy with the way we lost the game. That said, we are a better team than the Giants and the Titans.
November 17th, 2019 at 8:50 pm
Howard: “We know we have talent and we know we’re a great team”.
Hard to have the mental “talent” Joe when the players are delusional.
November 18th, 2019 at 1:22 am
@Kobe and @Ndog,
Brees has a splint in his throwing hand. He’s not done as much as the Bucs are done sucking.
Drew Brees will be fine once the splint comes off. Book it.
November 18th, 2019 at 8:28 am
Bridgewater will sign long term deal with saints why would any decent QB come here with this horrible offensive line.
November 18th, 2019 at 9:44 am
I wish he had been traded.
He is a waste of a roster spot.
November 18th, 2019 at 9:45 am
^^ OJ Howard, that is.