Philosophy Clash

October 12th, 2019

Panthers head coach Riverboat Ron Rivera

First, let the record show that Joe has no formal medical training, although Joe’s military dad served up many quality lessons in field dressings, emergency amputations and other assorted combat need-to-knows.

(Fun, bizarre story. Joe’s dad was once elated to find an injured/mangled rabbit he could save using homemade anesthesia and subsequently sawing off the rabbit’s leg and sewing it up. The rabbit did extremely well and was running free a week later.)

Anyway, this brings Joe to Panthers head coach Ron Rivera. He emphasized multiple times on SiriusXM NFL Radio this week that his team, the Bucs’ opponent tomorrow in England, determined the best way to succeed in England was to give the team a “normal Friday” overseas. (It’s five hours ahead of Eastern Daylight Time there.) That meant flying out late Wednesday night, Rivera said.

The Bucs, on the other hand, used their vaunted new sports science team and decided the best thing to do was leave late Thursday night, land early on Friday, then go right to meetings followed by practice. Bruce Arians emphasized how critical it would be to sleep on that flight, though he acknowledged he’d have a hard time with it personally. Guard Earl Watford told in England on Friday that the trip plan was “exhausting.”

Again, Joe is no doctor or scientist, so Joe’s just wondering who got it right?

Rivera traveled to England for a week leading up to a game as a member of the Chicago Bears during his playing days in the 1980s. Arians took an early-week trip to England with the Cardinals a few years ago, and he was there as a broadcaster last year.

Regardless, there’s a clear clash here in performance philosophy after long travel.

Joe sure hopes Arians’ guys are on the money. If the Bucs look tired, or play tired, Joe might have a breakdown.

22 Responses to “Philosophy Clash”

  1. AlteredEgo Say: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    I think the time change affects BA more than the players, Exhibit A… BA traveled a week early last time and this go around short adjustment period… seems he is confused and still experimenting, … Joe’s Pa and AE have something in common 27th Surgical Hospital, Chu Lai and the 95th Evac Hospital Danang… ER and Pre Op … Army medic

  2. Ghost of Darrell Henderson Says:

    Again, Ghost is no doctor or scientist, but a good bottle of red wine and you’ll sleep like a baby on the flight.

    Jack Daniels does the trick also

  3. Tye Says:

    Seems like traveling a day earlier would give your players 24 more hours to recover from the trip and acclimate to the new environment and climate.

  4. Smashsquatch Says:

    Blah blah blah, man up and play the damn game. These guys are pampered enough for crying out load. I don’t want to hear any more crap about time zones and sleep management. This talk is for mentally weak teams who like to build in excuses ahead of time. Line up and dominant your man, it gets real easy when that’s your focus.

  5. Jean Lafitte Says:

    That’s like saying if we practice in the hot weather we will handle it better than the visiting team at home. If that is the argument, then why do we always get beat at home with temps above 100+?

    I don’t think one day makes any difference when they still have two days to prepare. JMO

  6. soggy Says:

    Sure lets try something not done before and hope for the best.. UH

  7. TampaTown Says:

    Ah-hem. Homemade anesthesia and emergency amputations? Certainly explains a lot about Joe. I think this would be most concerning to Mama Joe.

  8. Colonel Angus Says:

    The team that wins got it right.

  9. Ship thief Says:

    I’ve been to Europe many many times.
    The older you get, the harder it is to adjust.
    In my 20s I didn’t worry too much about it, but that came with consequences.
    In my 30s I started insisting on a day off after I arrived, but it was still not a cake walk.
    Truth of the matter is that these long flights and time changes definitely effected me, and I’m not sure there is a remedy for that.
    It always took me a good few days to hit my stride.
    I would have advised the team to go there as soon as possible to acclimate.

  10. Defense Rules Says:

    Wow, hearing all the excuses it’s a good thing the Bucs have a Bye next week to allow adequate time to get their clocks reset for the Titans.

    And Joe, I’m still trying to get over the ‘sawing off the rabbit’s leg’ part and sewing it up again. Can’t imagine what was going through the rabbit’s head during that adventure. He was probably thinking he was on his way to becoming rabbit stew.

  11. #1bucsfan Says:

    What channel is the game going to be on ?

  12. Buccfan37 Says:

    I’m guessing channel 13 in the bay area. Will the game be televised nationwide?.

  13. TampaTown Says:

    NFL Network and WMOR. Frontier channels 588 and 512

  14. #1bucsfan Says:

    Thank you Tampa town

  15. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Seems like the Bucs should have taken a plane after the game last Sunday……visited the Normandy Coast….perhaps jogged over to Paris for some foiegras……some wine & chess…..all would be right.

  16. David Says:

    A lot of people, who probably have never flown more than an hour, are saying – no big deal, lineup and man up. Idiots.
    It is a big deal. Those long flights and time changes mess with your body and your sleep.
    I don’t care who wins, the way to go is to get there earlier to have more time to adjust.
    I once spent just over 6 months flying to London for 2.5 weeks then home for 5 days then repeat.
    Trying to sleep on the plane and getting there and going straight to work is useless. Takes a couple days to feel normal

  17. Howard Cosell Says:

    WMOR is channel 12 for Spectrum

  18. Howard Cosell Says:

    Joe’s just wondering who got it right?

    Unfortunately Howard thinks the Panthers got it right. We’ll be right back to our usual draft talk in October and the glasers will care even less than they do now…except about an eventual move to England, That will get them excited.

  19. teacherman777 Says:

    Jah bless your father Joe.

    Beautiful story.

    I would love to learn such skills.

  20. Señor Harry in Costa Rica Says:

    “Joe’s just wondering who got it right?”

    Chucky. Monday gives you the entire week to get adjusted. Proof is in the pudding. Chucky won vs Bears, oh my!

  21. BringBucsBack Says:

    Oh boy, the journeyman, back-up turned starting RT is already “exhausted”. I wonder if the journeyman, back-up turned starting RG is also “exhausted”. What could possibly go wrong?

    Leave Licht in the UK!

  22. Hodad Says:

    The best team will win Sunday.