Bruce Arians Talks “Bad Decisions”

October 22nd, 2019

What’s it going to take for Jameis Winston to stop giving the football away like it’s a single-serving Almond Joy on Halloween?

No veteran QB is better at epic turnover meltdowns– and still plays regularly.

Joe remains hopeful that America’s Quarterback will start protecting the football well. But after 60 starts, Joe realizes that’s just a lot of hope.

When Bucco Bruce Arians talked yesterday to WFLA-TV sports czar Dan Lucas, the head coach seemed to say Jameis needs work on basic mental fundamentals.

“It’s knowing why the ball is coming out of your hand and knowing when to get rid of it,” Arians said when asked about keeping Jameis confident. “You know, we had a screen pass to [Ronald Jones in England] that broke down; throw it away, alright. We end up getting a fumble; we didn’t lose that fumble. The next one, [Jameis is thinking] I have to make a play. Those situations we have to get rid of the bad decisions of when ‘I have to make a play,’ and you hold on too long and get a sack or a fumble. Just get rid of those plays, we’re going to be alright.”

Quarterback whisperer Arians is running out of time for a 2019 playoff run. The Bucs have a load of issues, but Arians arrived in Tampa with a clear priority: get the most out of Jameis.

It’s not happening and it simply has to happen in a hurry for so many reasons. If Arians can get Jameis playing consistent football through the final 10 games, then a lot will have been accomplished this season, even if the final record doesn’t reflect that.

59 Responses to “Bruce Arians Talks “Bad Decisions””

  1. AKickInTheBucNuts Says:

    Damn! I thought this was going to be an article about Licht’s reign of terror.

  2. D-Rome Says:

    Great, here we go with the narrative that the team should bring Jay-Miss back even if they have another losing season.

  3. geno711 Says:

    Through 6 weeks of play, NFL advance stats says that Jameis Winston had 18 turnover worthy plays. That’s the most by 6.

  4. T REX Says:

    We all know Winston will start playing well once we are eliminated. That is his MO. Please, move on. Once we admit our mistake we can go forward again. 5 years wasted. Pathetic.

    To the Winston slobberers…you can start packing your bags. Team over player. Dont like it? Dont care.

  5. Son of Kobe Faker Says:

    “Why is BA throwing JW3 under the bus to cover his mistake of letting an unqualified QB Intern to call plays and run a top 5 offense to the ground

    IF BL is still the playcaller after the Seattle game,

    November 4th Monday

    Kobe Faker will be back posting

    * and Hell is coming with him”

    Son of Kobe Faker

  6. Bucsfanman Says:

    So, Son of Kobe, what is the excuse for the four years prior of the SAME EXACT QB play?
    We saw this under Koetter too. WRs running open with Jameis locked in on one guy 25 yds downfield and covered. Look at the play to Brate in the seam Sunday. He’s bracketed early in the route and Jameis stares him down the whole way. Luckily, the pass was air-mailed or it was surely not going to end well. Meanwhile underneath, a WR/TE comes open crossing the formation. Because Jameis is LOCKED in, he doesn’t see the open receiver.
    This is nothing new, by the way. So, it must be the OC’s fault right?!

  7. SteveK Says:

    Too many turnovers, great post Geno. Having watched the Bucs Games, it does feel like JW3 is next level careless with taking care of the ball.

  8. Bobby M. Says:

    I saw a stat last night where Tom Brady had 15+ passes out in under 2.5 seconds….and another 10 passes were out in under 2.0 seconds. REally incredible to watch him dice up a defense before they can even get close. Winston i believe is bottom tier on time holding the ball….he may be dead last.

    It would seem the challenge with Winston making the next step is his ability to simply process what he sees and react. His throwing motion is a tad long, combine that with it may take him a half second longer to process what he sees and there may never be a “fix”. The NFL is literally a game of inches…splits seconds….He’s obviously talented enough to be there but at the same time, i dont think he’s ever “that guy”….you cant pay him $25 million for the body of work he’s shown….but I think a team like Chicago might view him as good enough to be an improvement over Trubisky and help them in a way that Dilfer did the Ravens.

  9. BigHog Says:

    Guess this what you people call a BUC LIFE !!! NOW GET OFF YOUR ASSES AND ROOT FOR YOUR TEAM …I am!!

  10. ClodHopper Says:

    The headline made me think this article was about BA deciding to come to Tampa, to work with Licht, to keep Jameis under center, call back to back timeouts,

  11. Grt1 Says:

    Uneducated fans popping off at the mouth again. Every QB has bad games , it’s the NFL. Wentz had a 3 turnover game could of been 6 turnovers, Rivers god awful and Sam Darnold three 4 should’ve been 7 int. The QB NFL season is a roller coaster, they play really good defense. I tell you this who are you going to bring in to the team that can do better than Jameis. No one that’s who our roster sucks and that’s Licht’s fault . Oline is horrible, secondary is Swiss cheese, and we’re in salary cap hell. Look deeper into the in’s and outs of football. Don’t be lazy and scream out for someone’s head when it’s not his fault. Jameis hasn’t had a defense or a running game since he’s here. The kid is 25 and has a bright future to bad his organization is terrible.

  12. Grt1 Says:

    Bobby M pats run a complete different offense. A lot of shallow routes, crossing routes and design routes for RB’s. Thats why his snap to release time is so short, not he cause he “ processes “ anything any faster than Jameis .That’s what I mean about uneducated fans. Anyone who knows football would see that. We don’t run that here .

  13. ModHairKen Says:

    Jameis is not a good football player. He’s uncoachable. Not in attitude; in action. He will never be more than he has been, which is still the best QB in franchise history. All that speaks of is 43 years of ineptitude, not of Jameis’ play. Yes, the best QB in franchise history is a QB who lacks awareness, can’t learn the position, and can’t be more than below average. “But he won a National Championship at FSU!” Yeah, so did Tebow at UF and Vince Young at Texas, and Cardale Jones at OSU. Big deal then, meant nothing about their ability to play in the NFL. And for those, “well, he will just leave here and win a Super Bowl somewhere else,” just stop. No one believes that. It’s just their hurt egos talking.

    Jameis is a bust.

  14. ModHairKen Says:

    Grt1, are you seriously defending Jameis by citing 2 other laughable QBs, Wentz and Darnold? Eagles will never win with Wentz. Darnold is going to be holding a microphone on Saturday TV in 5 years.

    When has Brees or Brady or Rodgers or any other SB winning QB had two games in one less-than-half season after year 4 in their careers like Jameis’ SF and Carolina games?

  15. Grt1 Says:

    You seriously comparing Jameis to Brees , Rodgers and Brady. Are you nuts , he ain’t those guys. Those 3 are generational QB’s man . Jameis could one day be but he ain’t now. We have to have a better team around him. Bree’s, Rodgers and Wilson only have super bowl each . It’s not all on the QB because if it was they would have 3 plus Super Bowls. Where are my educated fans at we have to kick and scream as loud as the ignorant or we won’t be heard!!!

  16. geno711 Says:

    Jameis has talent and works hard. He will have another great game for the Buc’s coming up. IF the rest of the team ever got good enough to make the playoff’s, I do not see Jameis as being the guy who could lead the team on a three game win streak. Those playoff teams will have good defensive players and in at least one of those games, will make at least one player on that offensive line look bad (guys it happens to the best teams too).

    I think a better quarterback would adjust and throw the ball away early in the game and wait to win a game in the 4th quarter. I don’t think that is in Winston’s DNA. He wants to win the “play” in the 1st quarter or near the end of the 1st half instead of realizing he can lose the play and save a turnover or get a field goal.

    I don’t trust him to be a consistently good player. I prefer to move on.

  17. down in the dirt doug Says:

    Jameis continues to dance around like a ballerina in a too tight tutu.He continues to squint like someone in a massive sandstorm.He sometimes acts like he has been tortured and brainwashed for a hundred hours by the enemy.Love your spirit Jameis,but—SEE YOU LATER SEMINOLE!!!!!!

  18. Alanbucsfan Says:

    This year is about changing the losing culture. Bucs need OLinemen and pass rushers. I think secondary woes are alot to do with inexperience and learning Bowles’ system and Bowles needing to make adjustments. Could be wrong, but it needs to play out.

    Jameis has been in the league too long for the stupid plays he makes.
    They could use his cap money to shore up D, draft a QB or sign a quality free agent- Bucs have alot of good receivers, they need a QB that has a feel for when to let the ball go and what not to do.
    He’s not going to change- for every 1-2 games he balls out, there will be 2-3 where he sucks.

  19. Mark Says:

    I don’t know what to do about Jameis, but he played exactly how you want him to after he got his job back post Giants game last year. In 6 starts he had 11tds and 3 picks. That’s a 30td, 8int pace for a full season. Guess what the team’s record was?

  20. Son of Kobe Faker Says:

    “*Very soon there will be a huge group of new posters popping up here at JBF whose sole purpose and agenda is to create havoc to get JW3 out of Tampa

    Just because they don’t like him personally

    Low football IQ and nonesencial responses

    This selfish movement will get more unbearable as the end of the season nears”

    Son of Kobe Faker

  21. Buddy Says:

    TEAM GLAZER needs to be the one talking “bad decision “ when they brought back this fraud of a coach in Grandpa Bucco Bruce who doesn’t coach a thing except making mistakes in game ala #KLUELESSKOETTER. Bruce getting more exposed each week of how bad he is.

  22. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    Ah, penned by Joe Thing Two…the wiser of the Joes. America’s Grop……errr, Quarterback needs to GO….and the sooner the better.

  23. passthebuc Says:

    Interesting? The fans know that JW sucks. The league knows that JW sucks, the team knows that W sucks and everyone in football knows Jw sucks. In what other places on earth would he still be on the team expect Tampa.

  24. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    (And he didn’t even use the dumb “America’s QB” moniker).

  25. Alanbucsfan Says:


    Jameis was the same in his last 6 starts last year- he had less interceptions, but he took sacks, was indecisive and jittery when he needed to make plays , and was outplayed by every QB he faced. And, as usual, he racked up stats at end of games.
    Bucs did have a coach that didn’t use ROJO and D was bad, but Jameis was Jameis – not a winning QB

  26. Pierce Says:

    Is it too much to ask that JW goes 3 games without throwing an INT? What about just two games?

  27. Pewter power Says:

    BA is not running out of time winston is but 2 bad games, 1 ok game and 3 really good games. I’m not defending winston and I’m not overreacting to 1 game like the entire fan base is but tom brady ain’t winning with this defense. In the 4 games he played well what was the team record?

    I want the team to draft a quarterback next year whether we franchise him or not but there are a lot of fans dumb enough to think that automatically makes us better and that just ain’t reality. After watching that horrible game again I’m more out on licht than winston and I’m looking at leftwich sideways too

  28. 813bucboi Says:

    T REX Says:
    October 22nd, 2019 at 5:56 am
    We all know Winston will start playing well once we are eliminated. That is his MO.


    every year he “turns the corner” once we’re 3-10……

    he has 3 good games, kills our draft position and folks will be saying, “bring him back”…lol…

    GO BUCS!!!!!

  29. james west Says:

    hope is a dangerous thing, hope can drive a man insane, shawshank redemption

  30. ElioT Says:

    If Jameis can cut the needless mental errors down by half, especially the ones in crucial moments/field position the Bucs can win a lot of games.

    If he shows real growth over the next ten games is it I worth the shot to franchise him at ~$26,700,000 for 2020 or maybe a more team friendly 2 year deal for let’s say $23,000,000/year with $30mil guaranteed?

    So many needs on this team as it is and many decent current players are on one year deals.

    Greenberg has his work cut out for him for sure.


  31. Hodad Says:

    Joe, we’ve been asking the same question going on five years. The answer is right in front of us. Jameis, 6 down, 10 to go. No excuses.

  32. D-Rome Says:

    Why is BA throwing JW3 under the bus to cover his mistake of letting an unqualified QB Intern to call plays and run a top 5 offense to the ground

    Yeah, but what does your dad think?

  33. 813bucboi Says:

    elio t

    this is the 5th year we’ve said, “If Jameis can cut the needless mental errors down by half, especially the ones in crucial moments/field position the Bucs can win a lot of games.”…….

    these next 10games wont mean sh!t because we have the previous 4years to prove this is who he is…..a QB with loads of talent but cant put it all together…..

    franchising JW would be a mistake….


    GO BUCS!!!!!

  34. Nate Says:

    I read this site and comments religiously and have never posted before. I was very excited to see Winston drafted and thought he was going to be the cornerstone of this organization. I can’t sit here and pretend after five years, that he’s going to be any more than he is now. We seriously need to find a replacement.

  35. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    Year 5. FIVE. Cue up the definition of “insanity”

  36. pelbuc Says:

    Glazer kids need to realize JW, despite all the chances given to him, is not the answer and move on. They also need to realize they were duped by Licht and BA. Leftwich calling plays was not why they hired BA. They also need to come to grips that Licht is a horrible GM that destroyed the roster and created a salary cap mess. Maybe someone with half a brain can persuade them to invest in a QB in the draft and go heavy on the Oline and Dline. Bucs should be sellers before the trade deadline but leaving it in the hands of Licht would be irresponsible to say the least.

  37. D-Rome Says:


    Welcome to the comment section. I think 90% of Bucs fans felt the same way when he was drafted and that same percentage feels the same way about him now. The only people who feel different are those that have hitched their wagon to his success (not necessarily team success) in whatever small way they feel they benefit from.

  38. Pete I Says:

    By all means lets waste another year or two or three or a hundred with Jameis “meaningless stats” Winston under center.

    I’m sure the NFC South would approve.

    The “best” QB in franchise history isn’t even on track to make the Ring of Honor at Ray Jay.

  39. ModHairKen Says:

    Let’s call him what he is. Jameis is a bust.

    Last year, he had to deal with the self-inflicted suspension. This year, no excuses.

    He’s Trent Dilfer. He’s Vinny Testaverde.

  40. Allbuccedup Says:

    What happened to the QB whisperer?

  41. BucsBandit Says:

    Just look AT THE PHOTO.

    That photo says it all about Jameis’ terrible footwork. Anyone that truly knows football knows exactly what I mean. Jameis bounces around on his feet and rarely keeps them close to the ground and set; this takes long to get set to commit to a pass. It also leads to inaccurate throws.

  42. BucsBandit Says:


    You can NEVER come back. You made a bet about Ronald Jones and you lost. You wagered that you’d never post again which of course you welched on that bet and aren’t a real man so you post as “your son.”

    You should be absolutely ashamed at yourself for not being a man and honoring your word.

  43. 813bucboi Says:

    ModHairKen Says:
    October 22nd, 2019 at 9:59 am
    Let’s call him what he is. Jameis is a bust.


    GO BUCS!!!!

  44. BucsBandit Says:

    The Glazers have to be getting impatient about Jameis as well as the lack of fan support at games.

    When you sign a new coach, like Arians, for big money, you breath a little bit of HOPE and excitement into the fan base.

    But when your “franchise QB” continues to crap the bed, and the fans stop showing up at games, you know a change HAS TO be made.

    The Glazers would be the dumbest owners in sports history to resign Winston and keep him around. If they do, it very well may kill this franchise and fan base for good.

  45. BigHog Says:

    ^^you can’t hear him can you……..whisperer!!

  46. Buczilla Says:

    Those old enough to remember the Vinny days probably recall a similar narrative about him. Ultra talented just like Jameis but he could just never get over the hump while playing here. Once he left he went on to have a decent career but never lived up to the hype despite playing for a couple of decent teams. If Jameis leaves and follows a similar path, then I have no problem with that.

    Look, Jameis isn’t now, nor will he be, in Steve Young’s class, so those worried about losing a potential hall of famer need not fret. Just like that beautiful, nutty, girlfriend that pi$$es you off and drives you insane, you gotta let them and Jameis go.

  47. bucsfan561 Says:

    @ Grt1 That’s spot on! he’s putting up the numbers but you wouldn’t know it because he plays for the bucs.. We’ve had opportunities to improve the team and we just haven’t struck on our draft pciks. Like Lee said jameis creates problems but he’s not the problem.. Sam darnold’s line look like our line in London and what do you know he had like 3 picks because as soon as he hiked the ball he had two defenders in his face.. The problem is at left corner

  48. Who Cares Says:

    SoKF. Awww, do you really think making JW a “victim” will help him to play like a professional, cut down on turn-overs, make accurate and quick decisions and throws? If so, I’m all for it. Poor, poor Jameis. 😣

  49. DB55 Says:

    When has Brees or Brady or Rodgers or any other SB winning QB had two games in one less-than-half season after year 4 in their careers like Jameis’ SF and Carolina games?
    At quick glance Drew Brees had a 4 Int game in 2010. He had 10 int by week 7. Exactly where Winston is today. In 2012 he had a 5 int game vs ATL and 19 ints for the season. There’s more but …..

    You guys saying incorrect things with such confidence. I luv it!

  50. DBS Says:

    I am not a Jameis fan. But if and when they do let him go they can let 75% of this entire team go. As of now that is about how much is bad and needs to be replaced on all sides. A total rebuild.

  51. Oregonbucsfan Says:

    I’m with DBS. I’m sick of the same story each of the last five years. Nice try, but Jameis was not the answer.

  52. Troy Says:

    Here’s the problem, and the Bucs need to see it, and so do the fans. Jameis could be a very good QB on a team like this year’s Saints. They have a good supporting cast; a very good defense. A team like that can hide his mistakes. He’ll never be good on a team like the current Bucs. He can’t carry this Bucs team, and this team needs a QB that can carry them. When Winston makes mistakes, this Bucs team can’t hide them. Can Winston win a Superbowl? I don’t ever see it happening as a starting QB in Tampa. I wish I was wrong, but with Licht constructing the roster, there will never be a supporting cast strong enough to hide his mistakes.

  53. jmarkbuc Says:

    “the head coach seemed to say Jameis needs work on basic mental fundamentals.”

    Five Years.

  54. Jeagan1999 Says:

    “With the 5th overall pick in the 2020 Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select the QB from…….”

  55. DB55 Says:


    Brady and Rodgers couldn’t carry this team.

    You’re talking about a minimum of 30 ppg in EVERY single game. I’m not sure there’s been a qb in nfl history to avg 30 ppg.

  56. Allbuccedup Says:

    With the 5th overall pick the bucs trade with Oakland for their 12th pick and 21st pick along with cameron brate, VH3 and the bucs 4th round pick as well as their 5th round pick. The 12th pick the bucs pick joe burrow and with the 21st pick they select javon kinlaw and with the 37th pick tristan wirfs. Wishful thinking.

  57. July Joe Says:

    Bruce loves Jameis.

    He’s had Peyton, Big Ben, Luck and Carson Palmer and KNOWS that Jameis has more raw “talent” than any of those guys.

    Arm Talent:
    1. Ben
    2. Jameis
    3. Palmer
    4. Luck
    5. Manning

    1. Luck
    2. Jameis
    3. Ben
    4. Palmer
    5. Manning

    Work Ethic:
    1. Manning
    2. Jameis
    3. Luck
    4. Palmer
    5. Ben

    Final “Raw Talent” Standings with all 3 categories combined:
    1. Jameis
    2. Luck
    3. Ben
    4. Manning / Palmer

  58. July Joe Says:

    ^ And YES, Jameis is also more wild and has a far bigger “superman complex” than those guys … but that’s what happens when you’re as talented as Jameis and have just been “THE MAN” at every level your entire life until reaching the greatest league in the world … he’s wild like Favre right now and might always stay that way, but even Vick learned to calm down with Andy Reid and Randall Cunningham calmed down once he hit Minnesota (as though he was older, he was still a freak athlete), so JW might do the same.

  59. ufour20 Says:

    ^^ LOL! talking about grasping for straws. I’m sure Arians told you he knows that the turn over machine after his 5th year has more talent then those other QBs. I want some of what your smoking.