“Some Of These Guys Are Lazy”

September 8th, 2019

The powers that be at One Buc Palace approve of an ex-Buccaneer talking to fans on their website and he doesn’t hold back.

If he’s lying, then the Bucs should fire the guy tomorrow.

Joe’s talking about John Gilmore, the Chucky-Raheem era tight end who spent 10 years in the NFL. Gilmore is on an official Buccaneers postgame show and he was in a bit of disbelief after today’s beating by the 49ers.

Gilmore threw darts at Jameis Winston for his lack of overall leadership. Gilmore explained that he played with Drew Brees in New Orleans and Jameis simply isn’t inspiring his teammates and isn’t holding them accountable like Brees does.

“Some of these guys are lazy. Donovan Smith, he has lazy feet, doesn’t finish plays late in the game,” Gilmore said.

The point was that Jameis, per Gilmore, tolerates too much laziness and sloppiness from teammates, stuff that wouldn’t fly under a veteran QB like Brees.

Gilmore is convinced the accountability and leadership from Jameis is lacking because he doesn’t play well enough to speak up.

“How can you hold people accountable if you’re not out there performing?” Gilmore asked rhetorically.

As for Smith and his “lazy feet,” it’s not a surprising comment. Nobody will ever accuse Smith of playing through the whistle every snap. But the Bucs knew that when they paid him a fat contract this offseason.

36 Responses to ““Some Of These Guys Are Lazy””

  1. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    Oh look

    it’s the human turnstile again!!!!!

  2. Petty Officer Buc Says:

    Unfortunately, JW has never played well enough to command respect.

    Drew Brees has the resume and respect where people listen to his criticisms and take them seriously.

  3. K2 Says:

    I think Jameis needs to do his job in order to be a leader.

  4. WeeManOfScots Says:

    You can’t be a leader if you yourself ain’t no leader…I have team leaders at my company..they know how to command respect..because they produce!

  5. Lunchbox Says:

    I’m convinced that both Gabbert AND Griffin give us a better chance to win than does Winston. And since Gabbert is hurt, give the first team reps to Griffin going forward.

  6. geno711 Says:

    I understand the concern on Dotson and Cappa. I am not sure of the attack on D Smith. The left tackle played 62 snaps. Bosa went against him on more than one occasion. How many sacks and how many pressures did Bosa have against D Smith today?

    Dare is someone that we need to point out as failing today. The guy just got crushed on the punt that lead to the block and also was just poor in not getting out to his spot on Jameis 2nd pick 6. That guy played what 15 snaps and had two big mistakes. If we are calling a guy as lazy, let’s call out the guy that fails and only plays a few snaps.

  7. knucknbuc Says:

    ah yes lets blsme donovan smith for jameises mistakes. we all know the second qt sack from bosa the one play he made after running around donovan for 3+ secs messed up jameis snd his perfect form. its all donovans fsult. hey @joe how did desesn do today??? any problem on deep balls?? askkng for a friend 🙂

  8. Bucsfan951 Says:

    17 games with multiple ints… who’s lazy again?

  9. Buchead407 Says:

    Oline across the board sucks

  10. Duthsty Rhothdes Says:

    Jason Licht sucks as a GM

  11. Jean Lafitte Says:

    What really sucks about the Donovan Smith fiasco was Joe’s undying defense of him. If I were Arians, I would put my foot down and threaten to move him to RT or inside to G where he’ll cry like a lil’ girl.

  12. TB22 Says:

    You mean Jameis doing his “Eat some W’s” routine is not inspiring?

  13. Jean Lafitte Says:

    He has said the same thing Gerald McCoy said about moving out of the 3tech position. Basically said over his dead body. Donovan has basically said the same thing. He’s only a LT.

  14. Clw JB Says:

    F grade on his first of 16 tests

    A few more like today and he won’t get 16 chances

  15. D-Rome Says:

    Jay-Miss is not a leader and he’s not the future.

  16. Bob in Valrico Says:

    Yes, Jameis should take himself to the woodshed and give himself a good
    azzkicking . Totally unacceptable ! Right now I’m thinking Jameis happy feet
    are more detrimental to success of the team than Smith’s lazy feet and even more expensive.

  17. Figures Says:


    Stfu with your blaming everyone else.

    Winston played like a pile of sh it.

    You couple of morons. Always on the short bus with you idiots.

  18. ElioT Says:

    I think D. Smith is a extremely poor man’s version of Donald Penn.

    Penn was physically limited in the natural talent department and Smith has all the potential in the world but chooses not to maximize it. Something tells me that he is not a real football player who loves the game, just a dude who has gotten to the pinnacle based on raw talent and circumstance.

    With that said…

    The way Jameis plays will NEVER lead others to be better. He simply has no ground to stand on and demand greatness from those around him.

    Jameis looks like a rookie still and consistently makes boneheaded plays game after game. That’s not a recipe for a true leader of men. Real leaders provide an example.

    Jameis sucked today, plain and simple. Not matter who else on the team messed up, Jameis is supposed to be the guy, and he isn’t.

  19. 813bucboi Says:

    That loss was on Winston….I saw d.smith make a few good run and pass blocks….

    Can’t spin this one joe…..everyone played well enough to win today except Winston….


  20. Gman Says:

    Such an incompetent organization from top to bottom

  21. DislocatedBucsFan Says:

    Been saying Smith is overrated for quite some time. I still can’t believe they gave Licht and extension. Smith cannot handle speed. He’s barely average.

  22. ElioT Says:

    I think D. Smith and Jameis are both on the same level of being overpaid/valued at their position.

    Donovan just looks completely lazy on the field. Dude has cement shoes, looks fat and seemingly wears a Snuggie under his uniform.


    Yep, just relax Donovan, 16 weeks go by quick… Just keep cashing those checks, retire a rich man, and live with the effort you put on the field for the rest of your life.

  23. DislocatedBucsFan Says:

    Lastly, Jameis has no ground to stand on correcting people or riding people. He needs to un-f himself before he worries about others. If this continues past week three they need to put Griffin in. Give him a chance

  24. Jmarkbuc Says:

    Glad we hired 50 coaches and 2 “QB” whisperers…

    Bottom line is you can’t take a bum with very little talent and make them a top flight QB.. no matter how much you tell yourself that you can.

    This team and JW are just pathetic, from owners to FO all the way down. Until a real football entity buys this team it will remain so. When organizations don’t need fans to turn a profit, and ownership is just collecting checks, it will never change.

  25. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:

    You can’t command respect and accountability when you don’t play well so I’ve never believed Jameis is a leader

  26. Estimatedprop Says:


  27. Estimatedprop Says:

    The number one overall pick going into his 5th year simply cannot play and attempt to lead his team by example like this. It’s just that simple.

  28. View from 132 Says:

    Why is local Buc media full of ex-tight ends? Gilmore? Really? Who cares.

  29. Tony LA Says:

    Been saying it for years on this site. D. Smith is a liability and as long as he is the LT the Bucs will have a subpar line. It was atrocious today in every possible level. The offense went backwards exponentially. Evans being sick was HUGE.

  30. W Non-eater Says:

    This team will be bad for a long time to come. I’ve been a true blue fan for many decades, but this team will never win with Winston. He’s done. Cut him now or waste another year.

  31. Jason S. Mclaurin Says:

    I didn’t see Smith being lazy I seen that heat put a beating on our big guys today. Vea and Smith really lost to nature today but their play was outstanding in all honesty. Bosa did nothing and Dotson so bad Smith had to block for him as well from LT, lol. Seriously I think if we move on from Dotson results will show. Ol biscuit really risk it 😂😂 going with this guy at this point. We gotta get younger to cater more to our new team leaders. I didn’t really see lazy though and imo I they were being lazy Jameis would’ve called them out on it reason why he ain’t rah rah rah about it

  32. unbelievable Says:

    Gilmore sounds spot on.

  33. teacherman777 Says:

    The pocket collapsed all game!

    Jameis is houdini back there!

    He played poorly, but the O-line sucked again.

    Cappa got pushed back into the pocket all game.

    Go watch the 4th quarter. The 49ers realized Cappa was the weak link and they were TOSSING him around!

    Cappa is Benenoch 2.0. A Licht draft pick being forced onto the field.

    You guys see MJ “4.6” Stewart get toasted? Reminded me of watching Leonard “4.6” Johnson get toasted.

    But at least Leonard Johnson was a UDFA. MJ was a second round pick!

    Imagine if we had drafted the best OG/C from the SEC instead of MJ Stewart and Alex Cappa from a Division III school!

    Cappa should have been a 5th round, backup LT prospect.

    Not a 3rd round eventual starting guard!

  34. Jim Says:

    The fact that JW “isn’t doing enough” to be a leader is a moot point. He is the QB. That gives him the right to be the leader and lead. If the other “leaders” on the team give him unconditional respect, that will send a message to all players to fall in line. It will become self fulfilling. It’s the brotherhood mentality of being teammates that should rule.

  35. emr Says:

    at least we are not the Dolphins …

  36. emr Says:

    is that HOOTERS Crab leg AD for James ?