Has Bruce Arians Lost His Fastball?

September 23rd, 2019

Absolutely our beloved 1-2 Buccaneers could find a way to upset the mighty Rams on Sunday and send Bucs Nation into a frenzied love party that would reignite hope within a battered and bruised fan base.

That would make Joe so damn happy.

However, that’s unlikely. And what’s far more likely is the Bucs finishing below .500 and recording their ninth consecutive non-winning season at home.

Regardless, Joe is most concerned about the big picture. Bucco Bruce Arians gave up playcalling to have less stress and more time to focus on other areas of his new team. He also has the biggest staff in NFL history. But so far, the Bucs have showcased ugly special teams, a defense on the decline (one that has yet to defend against an A-list quarterback), and clock management that is highly suspect.

The losing culture Bucs fans are so familiar with? It’s alive and thriving.

In two consecutive games, Arians appeared to choke in the final minutes. Against Carolina it was back-to-back timeouts. (Joe can’t relive yesterday’s fourth quarter. Too soon.)

Team Glazer and Jason Licht were convinced they hired a two-time NFL Coach of the Year still in his prime and one of the great playcallers in modern history.

Maybe they did, but there are too many troubling signs to ignore now and Team Glazer should be on high alert and sniffing out clues that maybe, just maybe, Arians isn’t the guy he once was.

That’s not Joe being an ageist. That’s Joe looking at a powerful head coach who was a powerful personnel force in Arizona and didn’t have a winning record in his final two seasons.

That’s also Joe looking at a head coach who has had health problems and has publicly recognized that he couldn’t continue physically being a head coach without modifying his workload.

Arians deserves a full season before he deserves firm, big-picture judgment. But that shouldn’t stop Bucs officials from being as crazy aggressive and accountability-driven as they expect their head coach to be.

Angry Bucs fans will mis-read this as Joe calling for the coach’s head. Hey, Joe can’t prevent the twisters and haters from going there. Have at it.

Joe’s just saying that after three games and a suspect offseason, there are enough red flags out there for Team Glazer to scrutinize the team in a way now that they didn’t expect to back in January.




58 Responses to “Has Bruce Arians Lost His Fastball?”

  1. Jmarkbuc Says:


  2. Ben real Says:

    Been telling y’all … just because he has had 2 coach of the year awards and he’s won where he’s been and been this QB whisperer does not automatically put the Bucs in the playoffs … but some of y’all been drinking that kool aid .. saying super bowl and playoff this and that … it’s not the coaches it’s the players who get the team there

  3. Bird Says:

    On positive note look at this away game stretch

    Rams and Seahawks very difficult to beat on the road

    However , Saints without brees , panthers with jacked up Newton and titans are 3 teams they should beat.

  4. Jmarkbuc Says:

    Look at the decisions the Cardinals have made…

    BA is Steve Keim and Bill Bidwill’s love child…..

    BA is a jive talking White Shadow…..

  5. LordCornelius Says:

    Team Glazer needs to stare themselves in the damn mirror before anyone else gets scrutinized.

    They’re the one’s pulling the trigger on Dominik/Licht/Schiano/Raheem/Lovie/etc. In the end they are ultimately to blame if we are going to go “big picture”

  6. Buc believer Says:

    The old stale moldy biscuit sure pulled his best coaching move yet… convincing the Glazers to get him out of the hot dry dessert to come to beautiful Florida to get paid to drive around on a golf cart and compare fat stomachs with Jason Gump.

  7. Jmarkbuc Says:


    Would love to agree, But Teddy beat the Hawks on the Road, and Panthers looked better, much better, with Kyle Allen.

  8. StonedBuc Says:

    Tom moore just got his grandkids college tuition paid for, thanks bruce!

  9. 813bucboi Says:

    Still a lot of football left….


  10. down in the dirt doug Says:


  11. Adrnagy Says:

    No. Rusty yes.

    Bruce is coming back. But I think he took preseason light. Instead of full throttle. He said it in his press interview he was yelling at halftime.

  12. Pelbuc61 Says:

    The problem is the Glazers have no sense of football business nor do they have anyone in the building that can lead them in a right direction. Incompetent Litch seized on an opportunity for job security by bringing in an attractive name (just like Lovie was an attractive name). BA is not the answer nor will he right the ship but he sure has employed a lot of coaches on the staff. Also because of Licht Bucs have 5 or more years of acquiring dud players. That coupled with bad game day coaching does not make for a winning culture. After the Bucs go 1-4, I certainly wouldn’t mind a Dolphins like fire sale starting with JW.

  13. ChanEpic Says:

    The SKY IS FALLING!!!! This comment section is about to be LIT. Lol.

  14. ElBajito43 Says:

    F@ck It……

    Just fire 🔥 everyone and sell the team to a family that actually knows WTF they’re doing

    I used to listen to on the radio to Eric Rhett running the ball because the games were not always on TV.

    At this point I wish they would end my suffering because it’s losses like these that ruin my Sunday over and over.


  15. Bucfanforever Says:

    Don’t forget the Bucs choked away the 49ers game in the fourth quarter as well.

  16. JimmyJack Says:

    Joe I can’t say you are not being fair here.All of those concerns are legitimate.

    If they continue we got a problem. But this season is long from over and let’s not pretend there are not real true signs of growth on this team.

    The sheer mention about calling for somebody’s head is pure lunacy. No matter how directed. That part of the article I could live without.

  17. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:

    Licht fooled them into thinking they got the Indy and Cards Bruce when we got the semi retired golf cart riddin delegator

    This sucks

  18. Tnew Says:

    Whatever we do, let’s not hire a head of football operations. The glazer boys are doing just fine calling the shots.

  19. ship thief Says:

    Anyone that didn’t expect to see some of our rough edges showing up early this season was fooling themselves.
    Completely new O AND D schemes this year folks…
    YES! This machine is not properly tuned yet! YES! NO ONE can disagree with that.
    Running game looks better.
    Evans and Godwin have both already had great games.
    Defense is showing up WAY more than last regime.
    And Jameis has showed a little more restraint.

    There is still so much work to do.
    Be patient and enjoy watching the growth of Vea (haha).
    Watch this young secondary show Mr. Grimes what he forgot years ago.
    Watch Shaq become a friggin COMET coming out of nowhere headed straight for every man that takes a snap.
    And then remember, we got JPP and White waiting to get into the mix.

    YES! The rough edges are showing!
    But if you pay attention you can also see glimpses of the finished product.
    We got some very young men out there, and they have plenty of room to grow and learn… And some of them are already playing with their hair on fire (M Edwards anyone?)!

  20. El Buco Realisto Says:

    All those red flags that they did not expect?????????????

    If only there was someplace, or someone who had the knowledge, the foresight that told all the sheep of those concerns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2019 will reveal answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Shame on all those, that are surprised!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

  21. ship thief Says:

    Sooner or later, the league is gonna realize that if they want a win against the BUCS, they are still going to have to show up and get their A$$es stomped on the way.

    GO BUCS!

  22. ChanEpic Says:

    I don’t speak for anyone else I know that. I’m still all in on this staff even if not the entirety of the players. I thought we all knew this defense was suspect at best due to bad drafts etc. Didn’t everyone from the C Suite down to us lowly fans agree that this roster was a shambles that would take time to fix? Isn’t that why Mr. Licht had to get someone like BA to come here? Didn’t our starting free agent DE break his neck in the off season? I didn’t think excellence was going to happen in one season, let alone 3 games into the experiment with this regime as it is. Even with the Joe(s) very valid points, I have to believe the DEAL already accounted for a game like yesterday. The Bucs before this season would panic and react and shuffle. Reacting like that now would be the very definition of insanity. Call me insane but I don’t think the Glazers are insane. Incompetent or too inexperienced at the biz at hand? Possibly. But not insane. Stay the Course!

  23. We sure pulled a fast one on you chumps! Says:

    My boy Jason and I sure pulled a fast one on you idiots!! Thanks for the extra retirement money! If you don’t stop complaining next year we will draft a holder in the first round! Jason is the kind of GM to do it too! So long chumps!

  24. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Don’t you find it interesting that all of these moves at the time……Lovie, Koetter, Arians…..seemed right…..got great praise…..
    Just last week Arians’ positives were off the charts…..now….no so much.

    Something simply happens when players & coaches come to the Bucs…..but not all of them…
    Evans, Godwin, Marpet, Shaq, JPP…….and yes….maybe even Rojo (the bust) are performing well.

    Let’s give it a couple of weeks at least.

  25. Defense Rules Says:

    @Joe … “Team Glazer should be on high alert and sniffing out clues that maybe, just maybe, Arians isn’t the guy he once was.”

    When it comes to blowing things WAY OUT OF PROPORTION Joe, you have no equal. Not only is the sky falling in Joe’s Bucsville, but all the air has already been sucked out. Maybe, just maybe, three games does not a season make.

    I know, off to the cooler …

  26. sincethebeginning Says:

    You commentary typically focuses on insulting Joe. There are lots of places to get Bucs news and commentary out there. Joe’s not sure why you waste your time here. –Joe

  27. Defense Rules Says:

    Does it concern anyone else that Joe and Realist are in agreement?

  28. El Buco Realisto Says:

    @defense rules

    All will end up agreeing with The Realist!!!!!!!!!!!!! It just takes longer for some longer to see the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep trying to figure it out at your leisure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2020 will reveal even more answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  29. Pewter power Says:

    Lol Joe’s absolutely a part of this microwave popcorn generation helping fans panic after 3 games. No its impossible to get better as time goes on under a new coach yea that makes complete sense. Its hilarious to log in a see panic one week and playoff talk the next absolutely hilarious

  30. LordCornelius Says:

    Difference between this loss and the last few years was we were the better team to anyone who watched the game.

    We ran the ball better. We passed the ball better. We played better D with more pressure on the QB.

    But the Giants converted on their 2 point conversions and desperation 4th down play, while the Bucs left 5 points on the board through chip shot FGs. 99% of the time we aren’t talking about this today, because the Bucs win 99% of the time in a game like that.

    Last year when we lost we were getting destroyed by the better team in the game. There was no hope in-game. We have yet to experience that this year and should be 3-0. It’s frustrating, but it’s not “stale biscuit” if we’re trying to say this team is just as bad as 2017-2018.

    Not that any of this matters to a troll with an agenda. Sick stuff.

    Go Bucs.

  31. JimmyJack Says:

    Ship thief nice posts.

    I especially love the part on watching multiple players hobble off the field against us each and every week.

    Finallyy seeing a team with physicality in this town. It’s been a long time.

    We are defientally on the right path. Just too much sloppiness right now. If this staff can clean up those edges we will be winning so football games.

    P.S. Why is this realist idiot trying to say I told you so after 3 games? This guy is totally lost. Almost like he don’t understand anything about the NFL. He thinks he is a sheppard and yet he has no herd. Us sheep now refer to him as The crazy on the internet.

  32. JimmyJack Says:

    Perfect summary Lord. Glad some folks can see how this team is improving.

    Reading posts about people giving up on the team and saying to burn it down. Guess some are just too thin skinned.

    Luckily the bandwagon always open.

  33. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    There is absolutely no doubt that we are improving……would you believe that Rojo has outperformed all three RBs we have come up against….and that includes McCaffery & Barkley….

    Our defense is smothering the run game…..and something nobody has mentioned but we had very, very few penalties yesterday….we are improving.

    We have some speed and intensity, and we are young….very young.

  34. Son of Kobe Faker Says:


    Looking better?


    Son of Bum Phillips goin to take you sheep back to reality

    Son of Bum going to make JW3 do his Jaboo Cha Cha with Donald chasing him all over and Peters and Talib jumping every route

    going to be a real defense this sunday”

    Son of Kobe Faker

  35. Todd Says:

    The only thing the Bucs could be calling for are your press credentials. Why do you hate the Bucs so much? Good Lord already.

  36. TampaTown Says:


    You didn’t make me angry. I’m glad someone finally said it! Too many red flags to ignore, and this is a fan base who knows a thing or two about red flags.

  37. Bucs_Fan_Orlando Says:



  38. TeethingBrat Says:

    They all laugh all the way to the bank. You don’t have to be a genius to realize that when they come here, they know there’s no chance so they collect their paychecks.

  39. Im tired and 87 is right Says:

    The crazy thing is if we just clean up some of these mistakes we could have easily been 3-0 or 0-3. All close games and the ones lost were due to individual breakdowns. Let’s see how this year plays out. Go Bucs!!

  40. Hodad Says:

    The game has pasted him by. What I see from the Bucs looks nothing like the modern game. Licht convinced the Glazers his drafts were solid, and all we needed was a real coach to get through to the likes of Jameis. It ain’t happening folks. Jameis is not a franchise QB, Licht is the worst GM in the league, BA needs to go back to the assisted living home, the Jets had a bad defense, and the fans couldn’t wait to get rid of Bowles. The team should change their name to the Dumpster Fire. Put a flaming sh#t can on the side of their helmets.

  41. Bucnjim Says:

    Just a reminder that Dungy was 0-5 to start and 1-8 after 9 games with two blowout loses to the 5-11 Detroit Lions.

  42. D-Rome Says:

    If tmaxcon was here he’d call it a paid Glazer vacation. I don’t think you are being unfair here. One has to believe ownership took notice of that game, how it was called, and who the players are on the field.

    Pay no mind to the haters because they will read what they want to read. They do it in the comments section all the time. No big deal.

  43. FairMinded Says:

    My lord this starts already? Smh

  44. Todd Says:


    You are a useless ankle-biting POS who is a byproduct of two married cousins. Go back to your cellar where your daughters are locked up.

  45. Figures Says:

    None of this is surprising.

    If anyone is surprised by any of this then you haven’t been paying attention.

  46. Jonathan Limpchimpi Says:

    I was excited as anyone to land a “name” coach. Of course he’s pushing 70 and a golf cart these days. I know he wanted to do Licht Weight a solid and it would be next to impossible to turn down the Bucs offer. This likely won’t end well like so many things Buc related this past decade. Backing up a kicker to a distance beyond where he already missed twice from was absolutely asinine.

  47. diggler Says:

    Bucnjim Says:
    September 23rd, 2019 at 7:56 pm
    Just a reminder that Dungy was 0-5 to start and 1-8 after 9 games with two blowout loses to the 5-11 Detroit Lions

    ^^^Then they went west. That San Diego game was the game that everyone went… “holy sheeeet were getting… good!?” Ah the memories!

  48. JimmyJack Says:

    You guys just set back and watch it this Sunday. The Rams are a quality opponent and we will absolutely go into their house and go to to toe with them.

    Then all’s y’all will got left to say is “Oh” I won’t guarantee a win but their aren’t no way we aren’t going to St Louis and New Orleans and not taking one of them game. Just won’t happen. Until then continue on with your ankle biting(thanks Todd, too funny not to repeat).

  49. JimmyJack Says:

    And then we’ll be back right in the thickets of the NFC South.

  50. diggler Says:

    None of this spit matters. This is JWs prove it year. Can he play the system or not? Any wins will be celebrated ignore the losses. Next year BA will have his QB or Leftwich will be the HC and BA as a pres. type quality control guy I dont see BA lasting 2 seasons in this heat with a bum ticker. He looked super bad at the post game presser.

  51. #1bucsfan Says:

    Pel. Jason didn’t bring in Lovie. Lovie is the one that brought in Jason

  52. Dapostman Says:


    St Louis? Go back to smoking your bong, dude!

  53. ClodHopper Says:

    You nailed it, Joe. It’s the culture!! BA is going head to head with that culture and it’s kicking his ass right now. Hopefully he can get this thing under control before the culture wears him down like so many before him

  54. D-Rome Says:

    Hey Todd,

    What happened to your 6-0 start you predicted.


  55. unbelievable Says:

    Problem starts at the top.

    The Glazer children are simply incompetent.

  56. Ghost of Darrell Henderson Says:

    Great headline! I agree, my spider senses are tingling.

    I am the same age as the Biscuit and I begrudgingly admit that my blazing fastball is barely surpassing 80 MPH lately. I am in a lot better shape than BA.

    Time to extinguish the Gumpster Fire!

  57. Destinjohnny Says:

    We play at about what our talent level is

  58. T REX Says:

    Todd Says:
    September 23rd, 2019 at 8:07 pm

    You are a useless ankle-biting POS who is a byproduct of two married cousins. Go back to your cellar where your daughters are locked up.

    How’s that crow taste bud? You deserve every thing you get.