Flushed Snaps

September 10th, 2019

Joe heard countless times from Bucco Bruce Arians about how valuable his offseason program is because of all the coaching going on from a huge and talented coaching staff, in addition to multiple practice fields where players get snaps they don’t get with other teams.

All those enhanced snaps, in addition to starters playing in preseason,were supposed to have the Bucs ready to play from Day 1 in all phases of the game.

They weren’t.

With the launching of guard-turned-tackle Caleb Benenoch yesterday, Joe got in a lot of head-shaking time.

Arians and his two offensive line coaches, along with general manager Jason Licht, studied Benenoch’s horrid 2018 film and concluded he was a good enough NFL football player to invest all that spring and summer coaching into. Same for washed up 30-year-old running back Andre Ellington. Same for washed out offensive lineman Evan Smith.

Those are three mistakes that shouldn’t have happened, and they shouldn’t be ignored. Those snaps could have gone to players with real upside. Most astute Bucs fans could have — and would have — said that in April.

The losing and the personnel mistakes — big and small — are really getting under Joe’s skin. And frankly, the Bucs got outcoached on Sunday.

24 Responses to “Flushed Snaps”

  1. Mort Says:

    Not sure you know what “Outcoached” means dude.

  2. The Graham Tram Says:

    I mean Andre was also here to help teach the system.

    Speaking of which, it didn’t look like Dare took the best route on that screen pass. Shouldn’t have been thrown, but still

  3. BucDan Says:

    Just another former Bucs starter that got dropped and won’t be picked up by any other teams…

    It’s a Bucs life!

  4. TOM Says:

    I’ve said this before. Why does it take the Buc org. all this time to decide to get rid of players that the fans knew for so long how bad they were?

  5. Buchead407 Says:

    Licht is horrible gm. Can’t scout talent in the trenches And drafts 15 dbs

  6. Negative Nancy Says:

    Bruce Arians is highly over-rated, simply lucky enough to have coached HoFers like Manning and Roethlisberger…

    Expect 15 more games of mediocrity.

  7. Buchead407 Says:

    Mort ^. Don’t be an idiot

  8. stpetebucsfan Says:

    I’m not a Niner’s fan so I don’t know what questions they answered for themselves Sunday.

    Garrapalo was hardly outstanding. They had a run game that resembled our ’18 effort.

    So as far as outcoached…I’m not sure. The Niner’s didn’t look so prepared either.

    Let’s be truly honest. Sunday’s game was a rotten stinker for fans of either team and especially for fans of good football. That was NOT a good game.

    We found out a lot of good things some cause for optimism that will be sadly meaningless unless the most important thing we learned…a head case QB..deep sixes our season.

  9. passthebuc Says:

    Joe. The number one mistake was not flushing JW.

  10. 813bucboi Says:

    imo, they werent outcoached….

    our QB was outplayed by their QB….

    GO BUCS!!!!!

  11. Pryda...sec147 Says:

    Out coached ! Doubt it sloppy play from both teams.

  12. Jean Lafitte Says:

    It seems Joe has found a way to show no patience for backups on a 90 man training camp roster but will tolerate crappy play from it’s team captain and Joe’s “America’s QB Pro Bowler” Jameis Winston with no problem. Benechoke, Evans, Ellington, and Spence didn’t cost us the game Sunday. But hey, I get it, you needed someone to crap on. How dare BA give these guys a chance on a team he just inherited for the first time. How dare he. Lighten up Joe, contrary to your own belief, running a fan blog doesn’t make you the smartest one in the room. Ok now write something positive so I’m not po’ed all the time?

  13. D-Rome Says:

    I was stunned to hear Ira on the podcast state that one of the 49er players (DeForest Buckner?) said that they wanted the game more than the Bucs.

  14. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Coaching big ben, peyton, luck and carson…that makes you a genius? Saw Tony Dungy is some sort of qb whisperer too on some nfl network top 10 list too. He did real well here in tampa with the qb slugs while he was here and then turned into a genius with peyton?

  15. Troy Says:

    Here’s the problem. You have to find upgrades at positions in order to replace them on the roster…And before you go all crazy with the post references for a replacement for Benenoch, just remember last year he played guard, not tackle. Everybody wants to be a critic, but finding truly better players at a thin position in the league is difficult.

  16. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:

    Outside of Arians who is not calling plays or coaching Qbs and Bowles, this staff sucks

    Goodwin only coaches when Arians does, meaning no other team wants to hire him. He was out of coaching in 2018

    Leftwich has called plays for now 9 games and averages less than 13 points per game

    Armstrong has never been a special teams coordinator until this year

    Joe Gilbert’s last pro gig helped Luck into retirement

    Arians is still retired!!!

  17. El Buco Realisto Says:

    They were out coached!!!!!!!!!!!! It was so plain to see!!!!!!!!! All that talk and BS said all off season is now officially garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What is the most difficult thing for the sheep???????? Accepting the Truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2019 Will reveal answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  18. Snook Says:

    This coaching staff had to see for itself in their own system.

    “Those snaps could have gone to players with real upside. Most astute Bucs fans could have — and would have — said that in April.”

    You could’ve said the same thing about Alex Cappa back in April. But he rose to the occasion in this offense with these coaches. Same with RoJo. ?? Cappa and RoJo were rookies who had few snaps. There is no comparison to the players mentioned here. And Cappy was hardly lousy in his very limited time last season. –Joe Don’t cast players aside because of their performances in Smith’s defense or Koetter’s offense.

  19. m0j0 Says:

    I don’t know if they were outcoached but the play calling could have been a little better for sure. However, the reason we lost the game was not due to playcalling but due to stupid mental errors. One can only hope that things get better as the season progresses, but it was certainly a big step back for the offense and the QB of that offense to say the least.

  20. 813bucboi Says:


    dirk took a big fat L on the chin too!!!!!!!…..

    week1 sure did reveal sh!t we already know!!!!!!!

    GO BUCS!!!!!

  21. RODNEY ALLEN Says:

    813 n Freeman got what 15yrds if that n a fumble. He was pretty good last year i wonder what changed….. oh right koetter is his OC 🤷‍♂️
    Yeah realist it has already Revealed what real bucs fans already know….. koetter aint all that n ur still riding his D

  22. ancientasbuc Says:

    Outcoached is a big stretch, even for Joe. Pure execution as Coach Dungy used to say. All players on this week’s loss.They controlled running game, established a running game, Had three unproductive trips to red zone because of player error. 4 turnovers. All players.

  23. WestChap Says:

    Outcoached? Only if you believe coaches take over the minds of their players to play Body Snatchers Football… and, in our case, commit mental errors at an impressive rate.

  24. BucsFan727 Says:

    What a bunch of hog wash.