Jamel Dean, The 5 Percent & A Hall Of Fame Endorsement
August 20th, 2019
Legions of Bucs fans far and wide are all hot in the pants for rookie cornerback Jamel Dean after his interception and near interception Friday against the juggernaut Dolphins.
Dean has been finding all kinds of love over the past week, even before the pick.
The 94th overall selection in the 2019 NFL Draft was bogged down by injuries in high school and college and finally completed two football seasons on the field for Auburn before jumping into the draft.
Bucco Bruce Arians was absolutely smitten, in part because of Dean’s toughness, so he told the Ira Kaufman Podcast.
“Jamel, you know, he played the whole year with a broken hand and a big cast on his hand and he’s playing bump and run, so I know he’s got heart,” Arians said. “And whether or not he could catch I didn’t know until we got that cast off.”
Well, now we really know he can catch.
This week, Greg Auman of pay-per-read The Athletic penned an 1,800-word feature that dove deep into Dean’s knee injuries and how he had to fight bad medical advice, as well as rehabilitation.
He had surgery over Christmas break as they instructed, but less than a week into classes at Ohio State, the school’s trainers medically disqualified him, telling him they did not think his knee would recover enough for him to play.
“I think about it all the time because once a guy told me I had a 5 percent chance of being successful in football,” Dean said after being drafted in the third round by Tampa Bay in April. “It’s always been on my mind ever since I got to college.”
Last week, Ronde Barber shocked the world and said “Dean looks unlike any corner I’ve ever seen. Big back, long, and he can run [a 4.24 40-yard dash] That’s, like what, I don’t know what that is. I don’t know what that is.”
All that’s left for Dean is to beat out Carlton Davis, his fellow teammate at Auburn. Joe is pulling for Dean to win that battle; he seems to have the greater upside. It won’t look good for the Bucs’ draft selections in the secondary, but that’s sort of the norm around these parts.
August 20th, 2019 at 11:13 am
I could hear the hunger in voice draft night during his first radio interview with Tampa media. Has the potential to be a force. Just keep ya head down and work at yo craft bruh bruh.
August 20th, 2019 at 11:15 am
He looks like a SS to me.
Hes THICK.
August 20th, 2019 at 11:26 am
Like NOS said keep grinding.
August 20th, 2019 at 11:27 am
Nice link to a paysite
August 20th, 2019 at 11:31 am
@teacherman777,
That picture is very deceiving. He’s not thick at all. Definitely not a SS.
August 20th, 2019 at 11:45 am
Endorsement from Ira? Ryan Fitzpatrick? Not sure where the HOF reference comes into play otherwise??
August 20th, 2019 at 11:45 am
Maybe red just makes his butt look big.
August 20th, 2019 at 11:52 am
Hawaiian did you see him play last week??? Jamel looks like a tank on the field bro. 4.24??? Wow. Young man faster Jalen Ramsey then, similar build.
August 20th, 2019 at 11:57 am
He has the speed and size to be a shutdown corner, just wondering if he has the hips to shadow the cuts of a good WR.
August 20th, 2019 at 11:58 am
I don’t think he can catch, the pick he got, he tried to drop it. It was weird, the ref followed him for 3-4 seconds to see if he was going to secure the ball or step out of the end zone.
No excuses on the 1st one.
They could have got this guy in the 6th round.
August 20th, 2019 at 11:59 am
The bottom line is-
This secondary along with Bowles scheme will create more turnovers which will give Bucs offense more scoring opportunities. Add in competent fg kicker and barring injuries, Bucs should see 5 more wins this year.
Upgrade OLine next year and Bucs may have a contender.
Fanatic optimism is more fun than doom and gloom…
August 20th, 2019 at 12:02 pm
the more the merrier….
we’ll finally have great depth if dean does beat out CD….
GO BUCS!!!!!
August 20th, 2019 at 12:04 pm
Dean ran a 7.01 on his 3 cone drill. Anything under 7 seconds is elite. Example would be Bucs rookie WR Spencer Schneil who ran an incredible 6.71 in the 3 cones.
August 20th, 2019 at 12:06 pm
healthy knees is the only thing in his way… fingers crossed
August 20th, 2019 at 12:09 pm
Chris Simms had him on his under rated list pre draft. He loved what he saw and speed length combo was elite and noted he had the traits to be a top 2-3 corner in a year or two.
August 20th, 2019 at 12:15 pm
You know Alabamabuc that’s a reasonable question about him. If he does he’ll be elite oneday.
August 20th, 2019 at 12:18 pm
Gaawwdd I hope we keep Schnell, he’s a str8 up football player. I like Scotty but Schnell has a more football ready body. And is fearless.
August 20th, 2019 at 12:19 pm
BA loves BIG corners,Pat Pete and Antonio Cromartie were both pretty Big dudes.
August 20th, 2019 at 12:43 pm
Davis would be a monster at nickel
August 20th, 2019 at 12:48 pm
@nosbos
Thanks bro.
His shoulders are massive!
August 20th, 2019 at 1:12 pm
Ghost of Darrell Henderson Says:
August 20th, 2019 at 11:58 am
I don’t think he can catch, the pick he got, he tried to drop it. It was weird, the ref followed him for 3-4 seconds to see if he was going to secure the ball or step out of the end zone.
No excuses on the 1st one.
They could have got this guy in the 6th round.
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And the fascination with a RB that was passed over nearly three times by 31 different teams makes more sense. You just have no clue as to what you’re talking about. ZERO! Dean was taken right about where a player that has battled through injuries but had great ability should be taken. If not for the injuries he would have been a top 40 pick.
August 20th, 2019 at 1:22 pm
Carlton Davis is too good to get beat by Dean. Dean will take VH3 job
August 20th, 2019 at 1:44 pm
Day of 1 of the season no, but at some point this season the duo will be Dean and Davis. Davis measures out to being a Richard Sherman clone. And Dean measures and times equal Pat Pete’s and Jalen Ramsey’s. That gives them Pat Pete and Antonio Cromartie all over again.
August 20th, 2019 at 2:20 pm
Jamel
Yeah you gotta a long way to go, keep it going, we are behind you and we take anything you give us. We are with you and when you get it, go back, and get the rest of the gang and show them how to do it, cause we need a whole team of you guys.
August 20th, 2019 at 2:23 pm
Wanna take moment and admit I was wrong to you Joe saying 3/4 DEs ater insignificant. 2013 John Abraham produced 11.5 in this scheme for this crew. He was 32 years young. I expect similar results from JPP.
August 20th, 2019 at 2:29 pm
VH3 is too good to get beat by Dean. Dean will take Carlton Davis job.
There I fixed it for you, Lamarcus.
August 20th, 2019 at 2:38 pm
@NOSBOS,
I’ve stood right next to him. He’s not what I would call a tank. He’s definitely not small, but not as big as people seem to think.
August 20th, 2019 at 2:41 pm
I like Jason Licht but he scares me from a roster management standpoint how do you reinvest all of this capital into 2nd rounders and have no OL depth or young promising OL in the pipeline after years of failures. This is a great story but man Davis being a high pick only to be beat out by another 2nd pick is painful.
August 20th, 2019 at 2:46 pm
Well, now we really know he can catch.
^^^well sometimes, that drop was UUUUUGGLY
August 20th, 2019 at 2:47 pm
Putting our hopes in a guy with a tricky knee, IT’S A BUCS LIFE!
August 20th, 2019 at 3:08 pm
Dean was an all state receiver in high school at Cocoa.
I think he can catch
August 20th, 2019 at 3:26 pm
” It won’t look good for the Bucs’ draft selections in the secondary, but that’s sort of the norm around these parts.”
They did draft Dean right? So, I mean, one draft pick beating out another, nothing wrong with that. Someone has to win the battle.
August 20th, 2019 at 3:28 pm
Why would Dean beating out Davis make the Bucs’ selections look bad? They were both Bucs’ selections. If a cast away FA came in and beat out any of these corners, THAT makes the selections look bad. I can’t even wrap my head around that logic.
August 20th, 2019 at 3:53 pm
Ghost of darrell Henderson. We don’t need you draft advice. You have been spewing since the draft how we passed on the future hall of fame runningback from Memphis. And what against 2nd and 3rd string defenses he is averaging a while 2.1 yards per carry. Man I mean he is nearing Ronald Jones preseason from last year stats. But dean would have lasted until the 6th. Becasue 6-2 200 pound corners who run sub 4.3s always last until the 6th round.
August 20th, 2019 at 3:56 pm
He’s raw but wow he looks the part. If Randy Barber likes him, that’s good enough for me.
August 20th, 2019 at 4:32 pm
I’m obviously missing something Joe. Why does Jamel Dean have to beat out Carlton Davis? Much more likely that he’ll beat out VHIII. I thought initially that SMB would be a starting corner opposite Davis, but it’s looking now like he’ll be working at nickel for the time being. This CB group has tons of talent, and we’ll need every bit of it during the season. Won’t be at all surprised to see 6 Secondary on the field quite a bit this year.
August 20th, 2019 at 6:06 pm
I hope Dean plays well but let’s not lose sight of the fact he’s just a rookie.
August 20th, 2019 at 6:15 pm
dean is big and wirey…i have a good vibe about this guy… when ronde raved about him i was kinda stoked…
like gerald mccoy when an ice cream truck pulls up nearby
August 20th, 2019 at 6:16 pm
you can see that he’s a specimen…but will the specimen blossom
August 20th, 2019 at 6:24 pm
By mid season it will be clear that our best 3 CBs will be VH3, Davis, and Dean. Leaving Bowles no choice but to put VH3 at nickel because he simply plays that spot better than any corner on our team. Davis and Dean on the outside, VH3 at nickel!!! Go Bucs!!
August 20th, 2019 at 6:37 pm
DefenseRules I don’t see how that’s likely. All throughout camp we have been hearing that Hargreaves has been flashing. He backed that up by getting a pick in the Steelers game too.
I have been hearing reports that Davis has been playing well in coverage too to be fair. Just haven’t heard him making the game changing plays like Vernon has.
Just don’t see how you can take a game changing corner off the field. Vernon sounds like he is firmly set as our CB #1 right now.
August 20th, 2019 at 6:57 pm
What Lamarcus said
August 20th, 2019 at 7:18 pm
@adam from NY
Hes not wirey.
He is thick. Huge back. Massive shoulders. Over 200 pounds.
For me, I wish he would get snaps at nickle and safety.
He can hit. And he can sprint.
I like our young secondary on paper.
Lets spend the next 2 drafts on d-line and o-line.
August 20th, 2019 at 7:39 pm
If he’s legit….Hargreaves is out. #TheTruth
August 20th, 2019 at 7:41 pm
I would not get too worked up about what Ronde says. I do like him as a national broadcaster but as a local guy he has a bad habit of overhyping guys.
Seem to remember him talking up Carlton like was really something special. How did that work out? Pretty sure that he even once said that one of our current Corners(think VHIII) was better then he was. Couldn’t be further then the truth.
I do appreciate his blind homerism though. We don’t get much of that.
August 20th, 2019 at 8:29 pm
Quite a few VH3 haters here…. Not sure why. He’s not blazing fast or very big but he’s been getting his hands on a LOT of passes this summer. Great technique and great ball skills can hide a lack of size and speed. If he’s gotten wiser as a player as well I don’t see any reason VH3 can’t solidify himself as our #1 corner. Don’t get me wrong, I love the youngsters, but I feel like Vernon is going to have a big, big season.
August 20th, 2019 at 9:21 pm
Here the thing, Vh3 is motivated by the possibility of cashing in (somewhere) next season. If he has an All-Pro like season then the suitors will be lining up to pay him. Win win for him and the Bucs, he’ll get paid handsomely and his play would have help propelled this team deep into playoffs. I just don’t see him being retained either way after spending the amount of Capitol they just spent on CB in this past draft. Why spend upwards of 70 or 80 million when you’ve allowed your younger corners to get thru their inaugural season and can pay them rookie deal money. I think he’ll ball out this year, but I honestly think he’ll be moving on afterwards.
August 20th, 2019 at 9:22 pm
Has nothing to do with hate Poppa, he’s had a fantastic camp. It will eventually come down to business.
August 20th, 2019 at 9:37 pm
If he look the part…then guess what?, We gonna let him play the part!!!
August 20th, 2019 at 11:32 pm
VH3 is have the best camp of a our corners and not just because it’s a contract year for him but I believe he’s excited to finally be used the way he should be and that’s in bump man.
August 21st, 2019 at 12:44 am
what if vh3 is the simply just the best of the worst,and the rookies are all just meh when it comes to getting up to speed with live football… what if the group is just way below average compared to other db units in the league…
brass and coaching certainly isn’t going to throw their group of db’s under the bus at this point…
just sayin’…
August 21st, 2019 at 8:38 am
I must have missed the HoF endorsement mentioned in the title.
My opinion (if anyone cares) is that Dean still has a lot to prove. He had a drop and a pick. In one game. Let’s see iif he can consistently put himself in position to get the picks, and then actually get them on a regular basis.
In other words…
#ShowMe-Don’tTellMe
August 21st, 2019 at 8:45 am
adam from ny Says
“what if vh3 is the simply just the best of the worst…”
I think that viewpoint neglects to consider player development.
Consider the ‘bridge player’ concept for a moment. Say…Chris Conte. He was a bridge player while the Bucs looked for a young player who could take over. He did not leave right away because that player did not just have to be drafted, but needed to develop as well.
Once his replacement looked like he was ready to handle things, Chris Conte was released.
VH3 is kind of a special case though. He might be a bridge player while the younger guys develop (probably is), but it also has to be considered that all through college he was a press corner and Mike Smith insisted he play zone coverage. Now, he is finally getting to play press.
So it could be that he will suddenly be much improved.
If not? Well, we have four options in development at present. When we have two who are reading to step up, VH3 becomes expendable. And I suspect that time is drawing near. Maybe next year.
August 21st, 2019 at 9:09 am
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August 25th, 2019 at 5:20 pm
I actually think what the Dean selection was about is in a yr he will be a starter after they release Hargraves w/ that salary he’s gonna get next yr & go w/ the cheaper, more upside CB
If Dean improves in yr 1 he’ll be the best CB on the roster for sure b/c of his physical gifts.