Just About Everything Jameis Winston Did At Practice Today

June 4th, 2019

Interceptions — and near ones — were just a tiny part of Jameis Winston’s full practice day.

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The Bucs were back on the field today for their first day of mandatory minicamp. Jameis was back at it as well.

Here’s how his day went:

*Fans are filing into the GlazerShed for the first practice of minicamp. Over 1,000 season ticket holders were invited.

*Simultaneously, the QB’s are warming up outside, tossing the ball around to get loose. Jameis is getting warmed up with Mike Evans, who missed practice today

*Practice gets underway with everyone beginning drills inside, yet the QB’s remain outside, doing individual drills with Clyde Christensen. Lots of footwork as they work on their dropbacks before throwing the ball down the field to Evans. Jameis’ drop back is smooth and he throws darts to the waiting hands of No. 13.

*Not about Jameis but something to note, safety Justin Evans is seen walking around practice in a boot on his left foot. That toe doesn’t appear to be healing very quickly. (See Joe’s story on the home page and picture.)

*Back to the quarterbacks working on vision drills as each QB has to find a coach with their hands in the air downfield. Jameis again looks perfect executing this drill, hitting coaches with precise passes.

*Now the QB’s are mixing footwork with vision, as each must move between tackling bags before finding the coach and throwing. The quarterbacks have done these drills so many times over the last few weeks it has become like riding a bike. Jameis perfect again.

*QB’s move on to their turn-around drill. Backs are turned to coaches and they have to turn around and fire a pass to a sprinting coach when they hear the whistle. Jameis fires darts to coaches on the left and right side. The coaches then move farther back when Jameis steps up to do the drill again. Once again, Jameis is perfect, delivering dimes to his coaches down the field.

*Back to the vision drills. Jameis must move around the pocket before finding the coach with their hands in the air. He goes 3-for-3.

*Out come the exercise balls. Coaches roll the the at the quarterbacks to emulate a pass rush. Jameis is able to side-step and maneuver around the “pass rush” and find his coach down the field. He is 3-for-3 again.

*The quarterbacks finally head into the building to join the rest of the team. Jameis breaks away from the group and immediately walks over to Mike Evans and the referees at practice and has a long talk with them. Jameis leaves to join the rest of the offense, knuckle-touching everyone once in the huddle. They do a quick walk-through play, sprint to the endzone, and then each position group breaks off for drills.

*The running backs join the QB’s and get to work. Jameis’ first 6 handoffs go to Peyton Barber and Dare Ogunbowale, each RB getting 3 handoffs apiece. Afterwards, the passing drills to the running backs start.

*Jameis goes to Ronald Jones and Barber twice each with short throws in the flat before going to Barber again on a short in-route and Jones again on a short out-route. Jameis finally throws to a different running back, hitting Andre Ellington on a comeback route before going back to Jones on a comeback. Jameis goes to Ellington twice more with a pass to Jones in between.

*The running backs are now doing short swing routes to the side and Jameis goes to Ellington twice with passes to Bruce Anderson and Ogunbowale in between. Barber runs a comeback route, but the pass falls incomplete. But Jameis completes his last two passes of the drill to Ogunbowale.

*Receivers join the party and begin work with the QB’s. Jameis’ first pass is a completion on a slant to Scotty Miller, followed by a completion the Breshad Perriman on an out-route. He then hits Xavier Ubosi on a slant and minicamp tryout Malachi Dupre on an out as well.

*O.J. Howard gets in the mix as Winston finds him for a completion toward the sideline and follows it with a sharp throw to Chris Godwin on a comeback route.

*One of the first mistakes today, receiver K.J. Brent falls after making his break on a comeback and isn’t able to haul in Jameis pass. But Jameis comes back with four straight completions to receivers Spencer Schnell and Xavier Ubosi and tight ends Tanner Hudson and O.J. Howard.

*Next pass, Jameis fires for Scotty Miller once more but the ball flies over his head, followed by two completions to Perriman and rookie Anthony Johnson before Dupre dropped a pass that went through his hands.

*Jameis finds Howard over the middle on a short crossing route and finds Hudon over the middle on a deep crossing route. Play-action next to Scotty Mille deep over the middle.

*Over the middle deep again, Jameis to Perriman. Complete! Winston then finds Dupre and Howard over the middle.

* Jameis follows up with another completion to Hudson on a deep crossing route before going back to Miller on a deep out-route toward the right sideline.

*It’s three 15-yard comeback routes again, Jameis to Perriman, Johnson and Ubosi.

*Jameis goes back to Howard on a short out-route and goes to Hudson on the same route. He finishes the session with completions to Godwin, K.J. Brent and Spencer Schnell.

*11-on-11 work kicks off and the running backs get involved right away. The first two plays are handoffs to Barber and Jones, before a Jameis incompletion on a check down pass. Noah Spence came flying off the edge and would’ve had the sack in a real game. Of course, he might have been drilled at the line in a real game or practice.

*Handoff to Ogunbowale, who would’ve been crushed by Lavonte David, who came up the middle and blew up the play. Jameis then gives it to Bruce Anderson, who made a cut and found space up the middle for a nice gain.

*Jameis steps out for Gabbert and immediately goes over to QB coach Clyde Christensen. After his chat with Christensen, Jameis pulls Miller to the side for a quick talk.

*Jameis steps back in and the first play he runs is a handoff to Jones. He runs into a wall. No gain. Next play, Jameis gives it to Ellington who is met in the backfield.

*Check down to Ogunbowale for a 7-yard gain. Winston then hands it off again, this time to Anderson who makes a few quick cuts on the left side to get a few positive yards.

*On the last play before the water break, Winston pitches to Barber on the left side and Barber is immediately surrounded in the backfield. When he tried to cut back, he was stripped and the defense recovered the ball.

*Jameis joins Ellington during the water break and has a long talk with him before the horn goes off.

*11-on-11 work is back and Winston steps in and on the first play he’s able to evade the pressure, take off and run for a huge gain. Jameis fires his next pass to Brent for a 6-yard gain.

*Jameis and Perriman hook up for a 10-yard gain on the left side before Winston looks to hit Miller on another short pass, but the ball falls incomplete as rookie DE Anthony Nelson was able to get his hand in there. It helps to be 6-7 with long arms.

*The screen game comes to life as Winston hits Chris Godwin who turns upfield for a 5-yard gain. M.J. Stewart came flying off the edge and almost disrupted the play. Jameis then finds Ellington in the flat with a quick pass as the defense came flying in on a heavy blitz.

*Jameis deep to O.J. Howard but the pass goes through Howard’s hands and falls to the ground. Rookie safety Mike Edwards was beaten by Howard, but Howard just couldn’t hold on. After this play, Jamess steps out for Gabbert, where he finds offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich waiting for him. The two have a quick talk before Jameis goes back in.

*Jameis goes deep again to Miller, but the pass is broken up by Carlton Davis. The pick was there but he couldn’t squeeze it.

*Jameis dumps off to Barber for a short gain before going back to Perriman, this time for a 36-yard touchdown down the seam. Jameis then finds DaMarkus Lodge on a crossing route, but Lodge is able to turn the corner and turn the play into a big-gainer, not being touched until he reached the 10-yard line.

*On the very next play, Winston tries to find K.J. Brent on a deep out-route, but Winston doesn’t put enough zip on the ball and rookie cornerback Jamel Dean undercuts it for the interception. These rookie corners have speed on and it was on display today.

*Next play, Jameis faces a lot of pressure but is able to escape the pocket, dumping the ball off to Ellington for 2 yards before Deone Bucannon arrived for the would-be tackle. Then Jameis looks to hit Brent on the same kind of pass play that was intercepted, this time putting a lot more power into his throw, but Dean was there again to break up the pass.

* Jameis steps off to go talk to Christensen again before Leftwich comes over to coach him up a bit before the water break. Winston finds O.J. Howard and the two speak for a short time.

*7-on-7 work gets started and Jameis’ first pass is back to K.J. Brent, this time for a 7-yard completion. On the next play, Jameis goes to Justin Watson for a 36-yard touchdown. Davis was in coverage, but Winston was able to float the ball just over Watson’s shoulder.

*Next play, Jameis hits Antony Auclair on a short hook route for 6 yards. On the next play, Jameis looks for Auclair again, this time over the middle but the pass is overthrown and falls into the waiting hands of new safety Kentrell Brice. This pass just sailed and whenever one overthrows a receiver in the middle of the field, it’s usually trouble.

* Jameis comes back and finds Howard on a crossing route for 10 yards before rifling a 26-yard dart to Lodge on a seam-route.

*Jameis again steps out for Gabbert but goes to chat with Arians instead of Christensen. Winston steps back in and finds Ronald Jones on a check down pass for 10 yards before finding Howard again over the middle for 7 yards.

* Jameis almost throws his third interception of the day when he once again fires over the middle, but the pass was deflected high into the air, just falling in front of Vernon Hargreaves, who made an excellent effort in trying to come down with the ball.

* Auclair gets a check down from Jameis, this one for 7 yards before finding Howard again for 8 yards. Winston and Howard seem to be very much on the same page, hooking up on a lot of passes thus far in these offseason practices.

*Back to Howard, a 24-yard pass over the middle where Howard was wide open. There wasn’t a defender within 5 yards

*Jameis steps off again to talk to Christensen, with Barber joining. Jameis then goes to find Leftwich and has what looked to be a very high-energy conversation.

*11-on-11 work kicks off again and Jameis hits Watson on a quick slant for a short. Heavy pressure comes on the next play and Jameis isn’t able to get rid of the ball. Vita Vea had tremendous pressure up the middle on that play.

*Jameis returns with tight a throw to Godwin over the middle. Godwin made a great adjustment to catch the ball as it was thrown behind him. Jameis then fires a quick pass to Brent toward the right sideline for a short gain. Then it’s a hook route to Brent on the left side for 8 yards before Jameis finds Ubosi over the middle for a 15-yard gain.

*Another quick pass toward the sideline, this time to Anthony Johnson from Jameis. On the next play, Winston has to escape pressure again and throws the ball into the dirt after being chased out of the pocket.

*Jameis goes deep to Godwin on the next play, a perfect throw down the left side, but Godwin drops it. The ball went right through his hands. Next play, Jameis goes to Godwin again and hits him for a nice gain on the comeback route.

*Redzone work gets started and Jameis’ first pass is to Miller toward the left sideline for the touchdown. Then a throw to Howard over the middle but Howard is short of the goal line.

*On the next play, Winston goes back to Howard in the corner of the endzone, but Jordan Whitehead is tight in coverage, causing the incompletion. Jameis then finds Perriman for a short gain on a hook route at goes for a short gain.

*The next snap is low leading to Jameis throwing it away. After the play, Jameis steps out for Gabbert and goes over to Christensen for another chat.

*Jameis steps back in as the offense sets up inside the 10-yard line. On his first pass, he hits Bruce Anderson in the flat, who proceeds to walk into the endzone for the touchdown. Jameis looks for the short pass again, this time hitting Watson for a short gain, but not enough for the score.

*Jameis to the flat again, this time finding Ellington who is able to get the ball across the line for the touchdown. Then it’s a throw to Ogunbowale over the middle for 6 points. Lodge then gets his turn for a TD in the corner of the endzone. Not sure what happened on defense as Lodge was all alone, not a corner in sight.

*On Jameis’ last pass of the practice, he looks for Ellington again but overthrows him on the left side. Jameis has a word with Arians and Leftwich before going straight toward the locker room following practice.

71 Responses to “Just About Everything Jameis Winston Did At Practice Today”

  1. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:

    3 INTS by Jameis today…

    QB Whisperer my A$$

  2. Rayjay1122 Says:

    Nice details Zach…thanks!

  3. BucBiebz Says:

    Love these articles Joe! Zach is a keeper if possible

  4. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:

    What’s the excuse for Jameis

    -He doesn’t have a run game in practice?
    -His Defense sucks in practice?

    Same old Jameis

  5. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    He has been throwing picks. Hear me out maybe this is because in 4 years he has been here he hasn’t had to play against a secondary that wasn’t horrible.

  6. CaucasiansDyingOut Says:

    black qbs are taking over the league, black qbs are dominating the h.s. ranks

  7. BucEmUp Says:

    Do you clowns not know that some really good qbs throw a lot of ints….favre and andrew luck were just as bad as Jameis. Shut up already and let the guy enjoy his first year with a real head coach.

    Joe….hope your plenty under the cap to give zach a raise soon!

  8. Bee Says:

    He had 2 picks… in practice. We’re talking about practice. And he threw like, what, 6 or 7 TDs. Relax, let him learn the offense. No QB throws perfectly every time. Geez, y’all complaining about practice in the summer. Lol…

  9. William Walls Says:

    Low-information fans…

  10. Cgmaster27 Says:

    The trolls in full effect eh loyal. Maybe these dbs are going to get some balls playing man coverage. Wait till the season at least, jesus. We know you cant wait to see Jameis fail, it’s what you do and it’s kind if pathetic.

  11. AlteredEgo Say: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Love the short to the point bullet point style of reporting! Like Sgt Joe Friday…. just the facts!

  12. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:

    I was at the practice as a season ticket holder Jameis looked like Cincy game Jameis

    It was ugly

  13. Allbuccedup Says:

    Sad part about this year if Jameis struggles you have no decent backup and of course no running game.

  14. NOSBOS Says:

    And if the young DBs weren’t picking anything ya @$$ would be like wasted picks right??? You MOs I tell ya.

  15. First Down Tampa Bay Says:

    Its practice. In June.

    Calm down people.

  16. NOSBOS Says:

    Basically every note I’ve read pertaining to the off season program includes work done by our young secondary. It’s either heavy pass deflections,INTs or QBs being forced to check down. People,we have a young “no fly zone” developing amongst our secondary.

  17. SC Bucs Fan Says:

    Except mentioning what he had for breakfast that was everything JW did. Thanks for the detail Joe.

  18. Defense Rules Says:

    LoyalToTheEnd Section 312 … You don’t strike me as being very LOYAL to anyone on the Bucs, so I assume this is THE END?

  19. Dave Pear Says:

    Loyaltotheend Section 312,

    No one believes you.

  20. TexBuc Says:

    “No risk it, no biscuit” I believe means take the higher payoff throw for a bigger gain versus always taking the safe check down short pass.

  21. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Loyal I heard from someone else that was at practice that jameis was as you stated cincy bad and it had nothing to do with the rookie dbs. He was just throwing it to the other team and missing horribly. This offense is similar to koetters in that it is vertical but it also throws down the seams and middle looking at mismatches with slot on LB or SS but jameis has to relax and take what he is given

  22. Stanglassman Says:

    I’ll believe BA in the interceptions today at his presser. He said there was a lot of new things being implemented today and there were a lot of young wrs out there that were in the wrong place.

  23. tnew Says:

    Good job Zach.. thanks for the update. Can’t wait for the season..

  24. NOSBOS Says:

    Couple weeks ago BA stated being impressed by how quickly Jameis was going thru his progressions. What forces this??? I’ll tell you right coverage. These young Silver Hawks are long,fast and athletic. Collectively they are going to be hard to throw on. Add inn 6 or 7 DBs on 3rd downs like coach Rapone stayed. There better be some picks thrown.

  25. Hodad Says:

    If Jameis fails this year, ya”ll will get your wish. Jameis, and Licht will be gone, and the new G.M. will use our high first round pick for a new franchise Q.B..

  26. TiredOfLosingGoBucs Says:

    Come on now guys at least wait for preseason before you explode for absolutely nothing ok.

  27. Allbuccedup Says:

    Probably the 5th or 6th pick in round one.

  28. AlteredEgo Say: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    Horse you do understand it makes no difference what praise or criticism Jameis gets her … only he throws the football

  29. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:


    Thanks for the info I gotta look for that presser

    From this fans eyes it was not pretty today

  30. BigHog Says:

    Ugly!? Was it not practice! This will be The Famous One’s best year yet!! first day of mandatory mini camp!! Give me a damn break!! Go JW!!

  31. Ndog Says:

    Loyal why do you know a fan that was there?

  32. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Joe, I sure hope you hire ZACHARY SEIFTER. I’m going to miss these things!
    Guys, Zach heads back to college in mid-August. Hopefully, he eventually finds bigger and better things than JoeBucsFan.com. The young man has aspirations. –Joe

  33. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Word is Tom Brady throw 4 picks in practice. Same old Tom!

  34. Ndog Says:

    Just cut Jameis now and let’s move on. Am I right guys, let’s go Ryan Griffin!!!!!!

  35. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:


    Season ticket holders like myself were in attendance

    Try supporting this team with your wallet like I do and getting kicked in the nuts every damn year

  36. Figures Says:

    Last place again

  37. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:


    You aren’t good at Bucs knowledge or using google


  38. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:


    Only Pats QB who threw a INT today was Hoywr

    Google is your friend

  39. Dapostman Says:

    @Loyal, I guess that Patriot secondary sucks.

  40. BucsBandit Says:

    The Jameis-Lovers will continue to make excuses for this guy no matter what he does. It’s a broken record spinning over and over, and never wanting to see the TRUTH.

    Anyone with a pair of work eyes knows the truth… Jameis has flashes of great play, and is a solid athlete, but he lacks to accuracy and consistent FOCUS over long periods of time, thus leading to turnovers… again and again and again.

    You can’t ‘teach’ accuracy when his muscle memory has already been formed from 1,000s of throws in his life. And you can’t reprogram his brain for the way he thinks and/or his lack of consistent focus; at least not easily.

    Jameis strong arm and self-confidence is his CURSE. I think he really feels like he can make any throw at anytime, and his primary thoughts aren’t about managing RISK in his decision-making; thus he continues to make the bad decisions and turn the ball over, and a very high likelihood, ALWAYS WILL.

    He did it for all his years in college and he has done it every year in the NFL.

    WHY on earth would he all of a sudden be a different player???

  41. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:


    It’s not his fault he throws picks it’s the coaches fault, the defenses fault (who is on the bench) the running game, the kicker (who is also on the bench) and the concession stand workers fault. It’s everyone’s fault but his come on man!!!

    He made FSU relevant again so of course he gets a pass for being a inconsistent pro. Fans care more about a college they never attended over the Bucs

  42. Buccaneerscotty Says:

    AMERICANS TURN OVER MACHINE!!!!! has done the same thing in college and first 4yrs in the NFL when will you people open your eyes? Facts are facts. He will get BA fired or he won’t be here next year along with Jason light. Just remember BA didn’t draft Winston he was stuck with him. Like it or not next year we will have a new top 10 Qb. The truth is the truth don’t hate…

  43. ManzielMadness Says:

    Pretty sure I remember reading an article (possibly from jbf) about how Aaron Rodgers used to throw some picks in practice.. he liked to test his limits/see which throws he could get away with… this is practice… not a game…

  44. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:

    Rodgers has a track record of protecting the ball thoug, Jameis doesn’t

    Nice try

    These throws were badly thrown balls not testing throws

  45. Ndog Says:

    Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:
    June 4th, 2019 at 8:16 pm

    Season ticket holders like myself were in attendance

    Try supporting this team with your wallet like I do and getting kicked in the nuts every damn year

    Been a season ticket holder since 1996 tough guy, try again.

  46. NOSBOS Says:

    😊Dork city round these parts talking like someone suppose to look mid-season peaking in June in an a new offensive scheme. Not to mention a secondary fill with ball hawks. Some of y’all need to hug your girl if you got one man. Little too wound up over some June football.

  47. Eric y Says:

    Jameis has issues turning the ball over…. he’s done it his whole career … nothing will prevent him from limiting his turnovers … there’s stupid turnovers and there’s turnovers … Favre was a gun slinger also … he turned the ball over a lot too but he always came back to make the big play and win the game…. Jameis is no favre PERIODT

  48. NOSBOS Says:

    Jamal Dean tho,it’s like everyone some of you claimed wouldn’t work flashing early. Read some dumb@$$ comment draft night about “hips not loose enough”. I can’t tell.

  49. NOSBOS Says:

    And Scotty Miller man.. Bowling Green shining out there. That’s real white chocolate right there. They will underestimate him all next season thinking he some lil whiteboy that has no business on the field. 10 yards later when he running by people they will be like d$&@ this dude fast.

  50. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:


    Other NFL qbs aren’t turning the ball over multiple times in practice yet our 5th year starter continues to do so in practice and the games. All hawk secondary? The secondary with what 1 regular season pick between the group? Come on man you aren’t this stupid are you?

  51. macabee Says:

    I’ll get concerned when Bruce Arians gets concerned. Jenna Laine was at practice too. So were the Joes. Relax!

    Jenna Laine
    ESPN Staff Writer
    Bucs quarterback Jameis Winston threw three interceptions (Mike Edwards, Jamel Dean and Kentrell Brice) during Tuesday’s minicamp practice. Is Bruce Arians concerned? “As far as throwing interceptions, I want to see where we’re throwing the ball down the field and learn from it. Do I get upset with interceptions? Always. But not today. We had some new things going in against different coverages, second and third reads, a lot of second and third players that were not necessarily in the right spots. So no, I don’t get upset with him.”

  52. NOSBOS Says:

    Dude I wish smoking was permitted on my gig I was ask yo extra bright @$$ to pass. I read a Ball was undercut homie,great play rookie Dean. Another ball tipped into air another great deflection whomever. It’s call football dude if you want perfect QB put ya madden in the console and the setting on rookie.

  53. NOSBOS Says:

    New scheme bright guy. And every note I’ve read the reoccurring theme seems to be the undeniable speed of this new secondary. Memo to you MOs,we gone force many picks next season. Too long,too fast and too atheletic not to homeboy.

  54. NOSBOS Says:

    D$&@ y’all act slow.

  55. NotJamies Says:

    Teenage girls don’t even squabble this much in a cosmo article. Who cares if he had a good or bad practice on a June 4th… “my friend was at the practice and he said it was cincy jameis too…” absurd comments.

  56. Tye Says:

    Fans with expectations of winning are in for a RUDE awakening…
    Reality is coming and going to serve you a crushing blow!


  57. NOSBOS Says:

    I’m sitting in my living room watching nfl network live from training camp. Obj runs a simple slant route no DB in coverage. Baker over threw him. Should they run Baker out of town as a result??? It’s called camp for a reason.

  58. NOSBOS Says:

    Willing to wager anything Tye???

  59. Tony LA Says:

    All you negative blowhards on these comment sections – just go away.
    Seriously, go away.
    You serve no purpose other than to be miserable and try to spread that misery on others.
    I’m sorry life isn’t working out for you and you’re miserable.
    Just, please, go away.

  60. NOSBOS Says:

    Or many others you just feel comfy running your mouth.

  61. Red86 Says:

    Thanks for an informative article!


  62. Ndog Says:

    Tye Says:
    June 4th, 2019 at 10:23 pm
    Fans with expectations of winning are in for a RUDE awakening…
    Reality is coming and going to serve you a crushing blow!


    So Tye you are on record saying that the previous coaching staff is better than the new staff? For the record to be clear is that what you believe?

  63. DalvinCookRules Says:


    It is not just about which coaching staff is better. There are a TON of factors, such as turnover in talent, schedule (a big one), and how players fit into schemes. If this staff cannot find a more effective way to get the ball in the endzone AND prevent the other team from scoring, then there is no reason to think this season will be better than last year’s.

    Winston is never going to be the most accurate QB in the league, but he does more than enough to win. You could argue he does more for the Bucs than Steve Young did, maybe a lot more. Does that mean he’s better than Young? Certainly not, but COACHING MATTERS!

    The Bucs have rarely been a well-coached team–in fact, they’ve only had one elite Coach in their history, Tony Dungy, and he was let go. What does THAT tell you about the brainpower at the top? Gruden won with Dungy’s players, and sure he brought some offensive innovation, but it was gimmicky and faded fast, with too many other holes in his coaching repertoire to get him to the “elite” status.

  64. Jameis Almighty! Says:

    Great post. Good stuff. Jameis seems elite, it the rest of the team sucks besides the obvious. Jameis will have to work his magic. In Jameis I Trust!

  65. Figures Says:

    Jameis is NOT elite.
    That’s an absurd statement.

  66. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Loyaltotheend, apparently you cannot recognize sarcasm.

    Also…fyi…Bucs knowledge has nothing to do with knowing what the Patriots are doing. Lol.

    In all seriousness, in regard to Winston. I support him. He is the best QB this team has ever had, hands down.

    That said, that does not mean he is elite (yet). He has multiple faults. We all know them.

    I believe he has the capacity to overcome those faults as he matures, and I believe he is starting to mature now. He’s about that age…finally.

    Any level-headed Bucs fan knows that if we dump him, the team will instantly go into a 5 year rebuild. As u ce as it is to dream, drafting a QB means developing one. The instant successes are extremely rare. And if we have to take the time to develop one, that means dumping salaries and starting from scratch.

    Anyone thinking free agency is the solution is fooling themself.

    So real fans should not want Winston gone…they should be rooting for him to be successful. Rooting for him to become elite.

  67. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:


    Problem with taking 5, 6 or 7 years waiting for Jameis to develop is it wrecks your cap and wastes the fans time and money. For me he has to take that next step this year or he’s gotta go.

    Prescott, Mayfield, Luck, Wentz, Goff, Matt Ryan, Mahomes, Derek Carr, and others were able to be good pros in year 1 or 2 but we as Buc fans are crossing our fingers hoping its year 5, 6 or 7 with Jameis

    Something doesn’t seem right about that

  68. Lord Cornelius Says:

    It’s hard to find practice notes on other QBs like this, so not sure how we know who is or isn’t throwing picks in practice.

    Regardless – I’m psychotic and charted this quickly in excel out of curiosity.

    I’m counting 2 Interceptions total. One was an undercut on some new WR we are trying out (BA mentioned players not being where they were supposed to be on some of these – guessing this one in particular) and the other was an overthrow to Auclair (hard to see how that’s on Auclair unless he ran the wrong seam route which is possible).

    In general between 7 on 7, and 11 on 11, he was 25/34 for 290 yards 2 TD / 2 INT. We don’t have yards for every completion so I only used a plug # of 5 yards which is super low / probably much less than reality. That’s still 74% completion and 8.5 YPA.

    What I don’t get though is in those drills are they doing a typical offensive drive and punting when they don’t convert? You’d think he’d have way more chances at TDs unless they are purposefully separating the red zone work?

    In red zone drills he was 8/10 for 5 TDs and 0 INT.

    So if you count the red zone drills we’re looking at 7 TD to 2 INT and 75-80% completion and elite YPA….

    Also were 2 drops on the day – one on a would be big play. And we know the interceptions didn’t come with normal starters…

    But yeah DOOMSDAY F*CK lol

  69. ChipBuc Says:

    loyaltotheend section 312 you are quite the Jameis hater aren’t you. Lets have some facts to dispute your obvious hating of Jameis. In 2017 the Bucs had the 4 th best 3rd down conversion rating in the NFL. That helped the Bucs offense produce 352 first downs. Second only to the New England’s 389, and 243 of Tampa’s first downs where by passing, the most in the NFL. The Bucs where converting on almost 50% of thrird downs. The only problem was that the Bucs defense was giving up 50% of third down conversions too. See a pattern here LOYAL It wasn’t Jameis that was losing games it was the defense’s inability to get off the field that cost the bucs games. So here’s Jameis coming in the top five of 3rd down conversions every year keeping drives alive, getting leads late in games watching helplessly as his pitiful defense gives up late drives to lose games. I don’t care who’s QB, anyone short of Brady would have trouble wining here. The year that the bucs went 9 and 7 was the only year that Jameis had a defense that actually won some games with turn overs and take away’s. So hate all you want Royal, but having a defense, running game, kicking game and good coaching are a QB’s best friend, something Jameis hasn’t had since he’s been here.

  70. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:


    A hater hates just to complain or for jealous reasons

    I wanted Jameis drafted here SO badly

    Anything I post about Jameis is warranted criticism of his game

    I WANT Jameis to be good. After over 50 starts of inconsistent football turnovers overthrows with some greatness mixed in its not being a HATER. It’s being a Bucs fan and wanting the #1 overall pick to play like one, be the reason the Bucs win not the reason they lose or his fans from FSU that are happy he made them relevant blame everyone but him for his inconsistent play.

    No hater, I just expect more from a #1 pick who was hyped as the most pro ready qb since Luck who has a high football IQ and is a “franchise” qb to play like it

  71. Swamp Buc Says:

    yes CaucasiansDyingOut.

    In america, all kinds of people are allowed to chase their dreams.

    We even let morons like you speak in public.