“We Can Use Him”
April 18th, 2019
Final days?
Joe can finally type it. We can finally speak it out loud.
The draft is a week away. A week from tonight, we will learn who is the newest Bucs defender player.
But will a certain Pro Bowl defender of the Bucs still be on the roster when that pick is selected?
Yes, we all know stud defensive tackle Gerald McCoy has not shown up to One Buc Palace for offseason conditioning drills. Voluntary drills. But for a guy that likes to boast he’s a team-first man, his absence is hard to square.
Earlier this week we learned Bucco Bruce Arians may have told GMC to stay home. Of course, neither Arians nor GMC are available for comment to confirm this (though GMC, per his Instagram account, is bouncing around Harlem on vacation).
Back during the coaches breakfast at the NFL owners meetings last month, Arians sure didn’t sound like a guy that would lock out GMC.
When pressed about GMC’s status — which the team has been staunchly non-commital about this offseason, Arians raved about GMC.
“We can use him,” Arians said. “If he’s here, he’s going to be used a bunch. It is just a matter of what happens.”
And right now Bucs fans are waiting to see what happens. Arians should be available at practice next week before the draft, but when Arians is before the local pen and mic club, will GMC even be on the roster?
April 18th, 2019 at 8:13 am
Get rid of CANCER93……………
It’s the only way to change this losing culture is to get rid of this 100 million dollar anchor on this franchise……
enough is enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 18th, 2019 at 8:18 am
I would love for GM to stay but why want he be a team player like Evans and redo his contract.
April 18th, 2019 at 8:19 am
or take a significant pay cut
April 18th, 2019 at 8:19 am
He didn’t finish the statement: “We could use him but we can’t afford him.”
April 18th, 2019 at 8:20 am
With the same $13 mil we could bring in 5 young dudes that could give us better results combined, plus play on ST, as GMC’s pedestrian 15 total tackles, and one pass deflection for an entire 16 game season. jus sayin’
April 18th, 2019 at 8:21 am
Vea was more disruptive in the latter part of the season anyway.
April 18th, 2019 at 8:25 am
If McCoy left we’d have to find a new whipping boy without him and Conte.
That will take about a minute.
April 18th, 2019 at 8:32 am
Why redo a contract you know the Bucs won’t live up to anyway? Evans will find out the hard way. They will dump him before his is up. Good guys finish last.
April 18th, 2019 at 8:36 am
Take it or leave it Gerald, signing bonus + salary that meets your production numbers, whatever that number is, you just aren’t a Top 5 defensive lineman like your pay grade is.
April 18th, 2019 at 8:40 am
Anonymous Says:
April 18th, 2019 at 8:18 am
I would love for GM to stay but why want he be a team player like Evans and redo his contract
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If I was Evans I would not under any circumstances redo his contract this year…wait to see how Jameis does this year…if Jameis is as Jameis has done Evans will be traded or want a trade under the restart with the next QB….back to McCoy….redo…2 year 13 million guaranteed…he is still a very good DT….
April 18th, 2019 at 8:43 am
Maybe people don’t want him to be a Buc but the guy is not a cancer…such a ridiculous statement
April 18th, 2019 at 8:45 am
Buc50 you have to look at the source. That’s a cancer.
April 18th, 2019 at 8:45 am
im starting to think that maybe cutting McCoy isnt a 100% thing depending on who we draft. If we draft a Dlineman in first found, especially if its Oliver or Quinnen, then obviously McCoy’s gone. but maybe hes here still in case of the unexptected draft scenario such as a trade down and maybe an Olineman like Taylor becomes the BPA and we go first two picks without addressing Dline. In that scenario I think you try shed weight else where to get enough cap to sign the rookies and you keep McCoy. I mean the only reason were talking about moving on from McCoy is because we dont have money to sign the draft picks and McCoys salary alone can pretty much sign them all… its not that we dont want McCoy on our line next year.
April 18th, 2019 at 8:45 am
This picture is not as unclear as some would like us to believe. I see his presence in Harlem different. He is house shopping in NYC as he will be dealt to the NYG on draft day for picks. The Giants have no DT or DL presence with Hill and Tomlinson—–go take a peek at their roster from 2018. Decimated is a good adjective for the DT position. My big worry is that Gettleman will fleece the Bucs/Licht with a 5-6 rounder only. If that happens, then blame BRUCE ARIANS for opening his yap about GMC level of play.
Game over batman.
April 18th, 2019 at 8:48 am
I’m so confused for all of the negativity for McCoy. The guy has been to multiple pro bowls and has been playing for team that constantly under performs. The reality is simply, McCoy has stuck around on a losing team with hopes to be the catalyst to get the Bucs back on track. He may of lost a step, but the dude can still play. I would love to know how many times he’s been double team throughout his career. During his career, how many DL have we had next to him to help take the focus off of him? How much help has he had? Yet we get our pitch forks out and go on a Gerald McCoy witch hunt because he has a high salary? He may of lost of step, but gave us his best years and chose to stay with Tampa during the best years of his career and how we just want to toss him aside like he hasn’t been the exact thing we need in Tampa. A pro bowl player that wanted to right the ship. He wants to be a lifer and bring us back to the winning culture we had for a very brief stint. I hope GMC is a Buc this year. If not, he’s going to haunt us with his play for another team. Just like Michael Bennet has for the past 5-6 years.
April 18th, 2019 at 8:49 am
SCBucsFan Says
“If McCoy left we’d have to find a new whipping boy without him and Conte.
That will take about a minute.”
I suspect TMaxipad already has a short list to narrow down. All black players of course…because that’s how he rolls.
April 18th, 2019 at 8:53 am
If the Bucs take Jawaan Taylor in the 1st Round, trade down or not, we won’t win 5 games this year.
April 18th, 2019 at 9:02 am
Could it be we use him as trade bait to trade back up in to the 1st? Or even move up to get Williams or Allen or Bosa?
April 18th, 2019 at 9:08 am
Bucsdelight: you’d have to find someone who’d be willing to take GMC and either eat his cap hit or restructure his deal which means guaranteed money for at least 2 or 3 seasons for an over 30 player with declining skills. That’s a tough sell, it would be tough even if had some more upside…..
April 18th, 2019 at 9:09 am
Not sticking up for tmax but I think he’s color blind.
He loves Jameis………
April 18th, 2019 at 9:11 am
Buc50 … I totally agree that GMC ‘is not a cancer’ (ridiculous assertion IMO), BUT … fact still remains that the Bucs NEED the $13 mil he’s due to get paid this year. Even dropping that to $8 mil doesn’t provide enough room for us to (1) sign all our rookies; and (2) sign AT LEAST 1 starter-capable veteran FA to make us more competitive this year (preferably a CB but a RG runs a very close second).
No real need though for Bucs to release GMC until they see how the draft plays out. IF we draft a DT high (Top-3 rounds) then bye-bye GMC. IF we don’t draft a DT, I’m guessing that they’ll release GMC then try to negotiate with other teams (trade for a DT) or just sign a DT outright (and that may well be GMC at a reduced salary). Only time will tell.
April 18th, 2019 at 9:23 am
The cancer thing is such a bad analogy. First of all, cancer is a non-communicable disease (for the multiple dimwits that post here, that means you can’t get cancer from another person). Therefore, even if McCoy had cancer, it would be confined to him. Unfortunately, John Dean made the bad analogy famous by stating that there was a cancer in The White House.
I’d fear a Leper in a locker room more than a cancer.
April 18th, 2019 at 9:24 am
Bonzi
My favorite players are all black you spineless loser…. be careful playing the race card little boy…..
April 18th, 2019 at 9:25 am
Donut,17 total tackles last season he was assisted on 11 of those. 6 lil bulls$&@ none gamechanging sacks. 0 forced fumbles 0 fumbles recovered. We’ll be lucky to get a 5 or 6 for the lovable gum showing crybaby.
April 18th, 2019 at 9:27 am
Funny how this site allows faithful players of 10 years to be called a cancer but has a hard time letting fans discuss what JuPaw actually is.
April 18th, 2019 at 9:33 am
The Saints would pick him up in a heartbeat.
April 18th, 2019 at 9:37 am
JUST FRIGGIN CUT HIM ALREADY…. God dang man. I hate waking up to these boo hoo GMC story lines. GMC is not that good and has been exposed as a fraud. Just cut him already
April 18th, 2019 at 9:38 am
We need to cut Beckwith, Gholston, Patrick O’Conner,Evan Smith, Conte,Grimes, Rodgers, and trade Brates
April 18th, 2019 at 9:38 am
Pro bowl means nothing at all it’s unwatchable and it’s a side show. Zero playoffs and am I don’t care attitude. Dude is average period he’s never been elite or a complete player. That’s not hate it’s reality and why broadcasters keep talking about elite get off and nothing else tangible
April 18th, 2019 at 9:51 am
I love the guy he’s been a great player on and off the field! I also understand we can’t keep him at 13 million…
April 18th, 2019 at 9:57 am
Get used to it Lamarcus. The over under on McCoy getting cut stories per week on this site is 9.
April 18th, 2019 at 9:59 am
Reality is McCoy is not the player he was based on production last year. Fact is Pro Bowls and 3 x All Pro (look that up if you don’t know what that is) do mean something to the league of which we speak. Why throw shade on a guy who has been a great player, team mate, grinder and community guy? It doesn’t reflect on him so much as those that make stuff up. Sad. Pitiful. Go Bucs!
April 18th, 2019 at 10:02 am
Joe says: “But for a guy that likes to boast he’s a team-first man, his absence is hard to square.”
Joe, I’m not sure what is so hard to square. Would you show up with no commitment from the Bucs? Obviously they’re trying (unsuccessfully) to deal him. Then you type that Arians may have told him to stay home. What’s not to understand? I think the Bucs have handle this horribly, but that’s just their MO.
April 18th, 2019 at 10:03 am
There will be a few more players than just McCoy being cut from this team after the draft. It’s the nature of the beast.
If you have a high salary your neck is always stretched out further on the chopping block. Dotson and Evan-Smith will both be gone too. If they draft a RB then Rodgers will be gone.
McCoy has made $100+ million off of this franchise, and the team has not got one meaningful win out of that money. Tell me again why anybody should care if they cut him? How could the team possibly perform worse without him?
April 18th, 2019 at 10:09 am
gotbbucs using that logic the Bucs should cut every player as they have not had a meaningful win in years. Its an argument that doesn’t hold water on a 45 man team.
April 18th, 2019 at 10:11 am
When has GetMyCash being on the team led to a winning culture?
When has GetMyCash being on the team led to a dominate defense?
When has GetMyCash being on the team led to a signature game winning stand?
Really, could go on and on.
The bottom line is he has made no difference to this franchise.
We have finished in the basement for years with him on our team and we can finish in the basement without him.
April 18th, 2019 at 10:13 am
Tmax, be careful. If you say all your favorite players are black, that could also be biased. Hah.
Donuts, I like the conspiracy theory about real estate shopping for McCoy. I’m hoping you picked the wrong NJ Team and we trade him to the Jets. Go up and get QW, we end up with less picks in this yrs draft, and reduce our need to spend it on rookies. I think QW is the safest pick in this draft for a day one impact. I didn’t say it was a good idea, but fun to think about.
April 18th, 2019 at 10:20 am
Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
“I suspect TMaxipad already has a short list to narrow down. All black players of course…because that’s how he rolls.”
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Bonzai, you need to get your FRICKING facts straight.
T-Max has counted Jameis Winston as one of his favorite Bucs of all time on multiple occasions.
Obviously your statement is crap. Trying paying better attention.
April 18th, 2019 at 10:27 am
Jets are more stacked on DL than NYG so thats why I think its the Giants. There is no 100% in NFL but you can read the tea leaves at times.
April 18th, 2019 at 10:28 am
BucsFire
thank you sir… bonzi is wrong on every damn post this is just another example….
April 18th, 2019 at 10:41 am
Sport
in this PC over sensitive world where everyone plays a victim card you are right I could be blasted for that statement too… soft soft world we live in…. everyone is a victim and everyone’s feelings are more important than integrity or reality.
April 18th, 2019 at 10:47 am
we could use him….as depth at 3years/21mil….
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 18th, 2019 at 10:55 am
Licht is a dumb jock in a thinking mans position , he doesn’t have the fancy needed to gain value . He knows parts of the equation but the entire equation is far from clear . He chooses to boast about an offense he deemed historically one of the best ever but it didn’t win games, had turmoil at the most important position, couldn’t run the ball, couldn’t get a lick of production from a second round running back, couldn’t convert short yardage and couldn’t utilize his own 10 million dollar deep signing as it was intended !!! Am I F ing Clear Hear , Listen Glazers He does parked the formula but is far from knowing the whole formula
April 18th, 2019 at 11:16 am
This is amazing, it really seems like everyone is in agreement that the Bucs should part ways with Gerald McCoy…..expect the GM, Jason Licht is so pathetic.
April 18th, 2019 at 11:40 am
The only reason to part ways with GMC is because of his salary. If he renegotiates, great, but I don’t think he does. And maybe he is feeling out the market to see if he can be traded. Or they cut him and then resign him.
Either way, as multiple folks have pointed out. Him staying or going isn’t going to necessarily change our win loss record by much. Yet, that goes for every player on the team except Evans, which should tell you something.
April 18th, 2019 at 11:46 am
Bucsdelight
bucs already have their Token Male Cheerleader what position are they going to find for cancer93 if kept???? clearly football is not his strong suit based on field results and the number of basement titles he has lead.
April 18th, 2019 at 11:49 am
Hey Joe what do your “Bucs Sources” day about trading GMC
Why didn’t we trade him?
I believe the Bucs believe they could get something for GMC but No One in the rest of the NFL reads this Blog and gets the GMC IS ELITE thought process
The Bucs wanted to send him but are stuck
Now they are hoping they can deal him in the draft
No WAY that happens
Just cut him Move on
April 18th, 2019 at 11:53 am
There are ($) 13 million reasons why teams don’t want to trade for him.
April 18th, 2019 at 11:55 am
Well Arians and Licht have also done everything possible to devalue any potential trade value he would have had anyways.
They have f*ked this up so badly. Really doesn’t give me any optimism going forward.
April 18th, 2019 at 12:38 pm
unbelievable
or just maybe this low standard fan base has overvalued their failed hero far to long…. there is an old computer saying gargage in garbage out…..
April 18th, 2019 at 12:47 pm
I think the Bucs wanted to retain him but he was unwilling to renegotiate. I mean, it’s not like we’re deep at the position. His “unproductive” season was better than everyone else’s on the d-line.
Honestly, this is why we’re at a stalemate. He wants $13 million, we’re not paying him that, we want to at least get something for him in a trade, and no teams are interested at $13 million.
So, we’ll probably still be talking about this come draft day.
April 18th, 2019 at 12:56 pm
LMAO. Losers always find a scapegoat then harp on him. McCoy has given his best to these losing Bucs. He was the Defense there for a while. Now many of you losers want to bash him. His salary for us might be a problem. But if YOU..had ever played the game (Most of you have not) You’d know he has every right to want his money. If we can get him at a a salary cut then fine. If not, Lets wish GMC the best. He can still contribute significantly to somebody. And many teams would scoop him up pronto if we let him go. A few, even close to what he’s asking. If I were GMC, I would want to move on. Buc fans..We been losin so long..we don’t know what a genuine Thank you really means.
April 18th, 2019 at 1:28 pm
The guy is just happy to be in the league. Tells Jamesis to just enjoy being a rookie. Tells Kwon he loves playing with him because winning or losing he knows Kwon just wants to have fun. I’ve played the game not at this level but it got me a college degree. At the pro level this type of attitude is not what I’d want on my team( heck at the small time collegiate level I didn’t want guys like this) but especially coming from someone that is looked to as a leader. Yes his production is down and not worth the amount of money he’s due. I can’t blame the man for wanting his money. I do think it’s time to move on and let someone else on the defensive side of the ball take the leader role. I’m not at all on board with a restructure because that doesn’t change the pecking order on the defensive side of the ball. Best for him and the team to part ways.
April 18th, 2019 at 1:29 pm
Cool Joe we agree on something about GMC
He is not Worth 13 million
This is why I love this site true interaction with a writer
Very Cool 😎
April 18th, 2019 at 2:40 pm
My say is that the Bucs are itching to trade Gerald for draft capitol. There will be no news of McoCoy until you hear his name mentioned in the draft at the earliest.
If McCoy is not traded he should be released shortly after draft. Then we can give Gerald a much anticipated farwell. After that we will be free to completely forget about Gerald. The focus must be on our rookie class and our new team!!!!
Can’t have kids walking into One Buc Place surrounded by Gerald drama. Our orginazation knows this. He will be gone within 10 days time. Give or take
Any other outcome would completely shock me.
I am also not happy about the way some of our local sports heads are dramatically treating this. I have never once been a Gerald hater but if I hear one more clown tell me how unfair this is to Gelard I will become a hater of his right as he leaves. And I will hate him be ause the media made me!!!!!!!
gO BUCS!!!!!!
First let us get good then we can be great!!!
April 18th, 2019 at 4:09 pm
tmaxcon, then by your analogy, the whole team has to go. One player does not lead a team to the basement. We have to get rid of all of them, because they all are soft and none of them have won.
April 18th, 2019 at 4:30 pm
I think he’s as good as gone. Didn’t want to risk injuring him before a trade imo.
April 18th, 2019 at 4:54 pm
Mike Johnson … Spot on Mike, lots of folks are just looking for yet another scapegoat. (Funny how winning TEAMS rarely if ever need scapegoats).
JimmyJack … Good summary of the Bucs & GMC’s options. Seems obvious to me that the Bucs CAN’T AFFORD to pay GMC $13 mil this year, so something has to give. Like you though, I’d be VERY surprised if GMC goes anywhere until after the draft. IF we draft a DT (like Q Williams hopefully), GMC is released & his Bucs’ days are over. IF we don’t draft a DT, GMC will be released anyways, and we’ll be looking for a GMC replacement (who MIGHT be GMC himself at a lower salary).
This whole sordid affair has be overly dramatic, unnecessarily. This is what happens I guess when bad teams with no money to improve try to bluff.
April 18th, 2019 at 5:16 pm
I keep having this thought and I know it’s not right but here’s what it is…
All the people who bash GMC have never played or coached a sport at a reasonably high level. They call him a cancer and worse and all he has done is show up and earn his money. He has taken beatings year after year and fought through injuries, double teams, idiot coaches, doubters, losers…you name it. Has he molested anyone? Had a DUI? Not been a team player? Jaywalked?
I picture the puffed out “bad-asses” who talk all this sh*t about him having been in disputes with Girl Scouts about how many boxes of cookies they should have been delivered followed by them getting their asses kicked by the littlest Scout on the sales team
April 18th, 2019 at 5:17 pm
T max you totally missed my point.
A smart GM / head coach would not publicly devalue a player they are trying to trade. But i guess that’s the Bucs way: other teams recoup draft picks when getting rid of players, where as we just let them walk away for nothing. And we make sure to do so after compensatory picks are already awarded because, ya know, it’s not like we need the extra help.
April 18th, 2019 at 7:34 pm
unbelievable
Sir i did not miss your point the rest of the league has already accepted cancer93 was / is a fraud there was nothing to hide or fake. Its public knowledge outside of the 5 to 10 blind cancer93 lovers in bay area led by joe. He has not been worth anything to another team since the day after that bum signed that ridiculous contract glazers gave. He’s a locker room cancer and a fraud on Sunday’s real nfl have seen this for years… the value of cancer93 only exists in about 10 folks
April 18th, 2019 at 7:43 pm
Bob Buc
So since you played pee wee football and probably coach t ball in spandex shorts you are qualified to over rule the on field results and label cancer93 a great player… hilarious nothing worse than a has been that never was educating others when film and win loss record proves she SUCKED
April 18th, 2019 at 8:47 pm
@unbelievable
That’s because other teams get rid of players when they should. We should’ve traded McCoy 2yrs ago but instead we held on to him. Now we’ll get nothing in return. Just like we’re doing with Dotson and did with Grimes. And will someone tell me how Gholston is still on this team?
April 18th, 2019 at 9:12 pm
93 is a soft crybaby, the sooner he’s cut the better. I’m tired of watching a mentally weak defense. As long as that clown is in the locker room the D will continue to be soft in the middle and people will run on us all day like they always do.
April 19th, 2019 at 10:36 am
Dude shouldn’t be worth anywhere near $100 million…..only in Tampa
April 19th, 2019 at 4:54 pm
The Bucs can’t afford his contract, so either he restructures and plays another season, or two at most, with the Bucs, or he likely gets traded for a mid round pick or two (4 and a 6 maybe). If the Bucs do have to cut him, they will probably wait until after June, and he’s not going to like that one bit, but if they have to cut him that would be the best way to spread out the cap hit. Hopefully that will give him more incentive to come to the table on a restructure.
April 19th, 2019 at 6:46 pm
Dear tmaxcon:
Sorry I hit a nerve little lady. Rather than coach PeeWee, I coached at college level and competed in combat sports at the highest level. Didn’t want to throw that around but when losers ask, it should be answered. If Gerald did something really bad to you, you should show it to the police on the anatomically correct doll.
Since you feel so strongly about a player who has earned his check, tell me about how you feel about Aqib Talib. One crappy pistol shot away from being in the FedPen for life. Can you describe the Quantum Leap from a good player doing his job to that thug? If you’re currently on a long-term contract as his bottom and don’t wish to comment, I understand.
April 19th, 2019 at 6:55 pm
Addendum:
Ignoring the uninformed haters and for the record, I do not want the Bucs to keep Gerald at his current salary…for purely business reasons. Beyond that, the hate directed toward him is not comprehensible. I can only attribute it to weenies who play online games and haven’t smashed their bodies hard against anything not sold in an adult book store.
April 19th, 2019 at 6:56 pm
C’mon Joe…look back a few posts and do the right thing.
April 19th, 2019 at 7:15 pm
tmaxcon Says:
Bob Buc
So since you played pee wee football and probably coach t ball in spandex shorts you are qualified to over rule the on field results and label cancer93 a great player… hilarious nothing worse than a has been that never was educating others when film and win loss record proves she SUCKED
Please, pretty please, show everyone your bad-assed resume that gives you the right to refer to an all-pro NFL player as “she”. I am a student of all types of athletic competitions and when a superior life form shows up that can denigrate a high level NFL performer, well, I’m intrigued. I’ve always thought that I couldn’t hold my ground against a combat athlete in the Sigma 6 category but now I’m not sure. Perhaps, with you as my guru, I could subjugate the planet.?!
April 19th, 2019 at 7:18 pm
Thanks Joe for posting the full response. I know I’m taking the risk of tmaxcon (emphasis on con) destroying me with a flick of her purse but I’m willing to take that chance.