Another White Sign

April 17th, 2019

“The Professor” offers sad guess.

This depresses Joe a great deal.

Now Joe is not much a mock draft kinda guy. There really was only one Joe paid close attention. That was the annual Mike Mayock mock. He did just one each year, two or three days before the draft.

As far as mocks go, Mayock’s was usually one of the best. And that’s how Joe judges if a mock is “good” or not: How accurate is it?

Enter “The Professor,” John Clayton. Currently a SiriusXM NFL Radio pinch-hitter and a freelance columnist, Clayton recently scribbled together a mock draft for the Washington Post.

Knowing Clayton and knowing his vast resources within the NFL allows Joe to give Clayton instant credibility.

Sadly, Clayton’s antennae tell him the Bucs may do the nearly unthinkable, and that is to draft an inside linebacker with the No. 5 pick.

White continues to be one of the most sought-after players in this draft class. New defensive coordinator Todd Bowles would put him in the middle of his 3-4 defense at inside linebacker.

In a draft top-loaded with pass rushers/defensive ends, the Bucs will pass on all of these for… an inside linebacker. Joe simply cannot wrap his head around this mentality in any way shape or form, and trust Joe, he’s has tried.

Joe just doesn’t get it. But hey, it’s not going to be Joe’s rear end if quarterbacks are able to apply for car loans in the pocket before completing passes.

87 Responses to “Another White Sign”

  1. Dewey Selmon Says:

    All this anti White rhetoric reminds me of the time you wanted Joey Football. Article after article after article. Ended up getting roasted over it.

  2. danr Says:

    lol those were the days.

  3. The Graham Tram Says:

    If he can be one of the great playermakers and leaders of a defense, then we’re lucky to have the 5th pick. We’re in need of both.

  4. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Poor, poor Joe….depressed over the thought of drafting Devin White…..

    By all accounts….he would be a great Buc…..

    Will Joe pledge to support whoever the pick is….regardless of position?…..

    I suspect so.

  5. mark2001 Says:

    Dewey… I think Joe raises some legitimate concerns. Of course, with the weak coaching I think we have had the last ten years, it is really difficult to separate bad coaching and weak schemes, from weak players. One thing is pretty certain…with the depth and quality of the new coaching staff, I think those questions will be answered in the first half of the season. And hope we draft a future all pro player.

  6. EvolvingBucsFan Says:

    Don’t forget the Derwin James articles.

  7. gotbbucs Says:

    This draft is not top loaded with edge rushers, its three rounds deep with defensive linemen.

  8. Thegregwitul Says:

    This anti-White bias is getting a little ridiculous. This guy isn’t rating out to be a scrub or projected 5th round pick. If White comes in and provides the same impact as a Patrick Willis or Luke Kuechly, then by god I’ll be delighted as a fan.

    I think the sheer depth of pass rushing talent has the Bucs confident that they can land an impact player in the second or perhaps a trade back into the first to grab a Montez Sweat.

    Let the draft play out first before the panic sets in. The more I see of Josh Allen, the more I like him as a player for the Bucs at 5. I’m also a big fan of Ed Oliver and would be fine if the Bucs grabbed him at 5, too. But I also feel that Devin White will be a big time stud and a difference maker on the field for the Bucs. If they can trade down a couple picks to land White and trade back into the end of the first to grab a pass rusher, that would be just perfect, since it’ll satisfy the request for the edge rusher and give the Bucs a dominant LB too.

  9. Pickgrin Says:

    Wash, Rinse, Repeat

  10. bucsince79 aka bumaneer Says:

    Relax Joe, If White is the next best thing to DB #55 All will be well in TB…
    White may be a better pass rusher than you think as a LB… When was the last time the Bucs drafted a great DE?

  11. Dave Says:

    Other than David, the Bucs LB corps is looking bleak. If David gets hurt, that defense is toast. So LB is a major need and the talent level at that position drops off a lot after the first round.

  12. Not there yet Says:

    We all know why you don’t get it joe. You know journalism not football. Your just no more qualified than any of us to say it will be a mistake to draft white. If he’s an all pro it was a good pick regardless of position. He has to be and as long as he’s not average it’s a good pick

  13. Clean House Says:

    Joe, I’ve been reading your take for weeks about this without coming to judgment. The more I consider it, I am in total agreement with you!

  14. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Off subject but the next time you’re feeling bad about the Glazer’s money.

    Here is a bit of news:

    For the Democrats, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) received $200,000 from the businessman who owns the Manchester United soccer club and NFL’s Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Avram Glazer.

  15. thomas farkas Says:

    I agree with Joe! You draft for BPA and not for need! ILB is not a position (especially in a 3-4 D) that you take in the top 10 of the draft. The best players available in this draft are Dlineman. I take the best one who is there at 5!

  16. Bucsfanman Says:

    We need more than just DE pass-rushers the last time I checked.
    Joe is bordering on manic at this point with the White articles!

  17. Maze Says:

    Well said Joe I couldn’t agree more and after Licht’s meltdown in the first round last year I won’t be surprised

  18. Doctor_berto Says:

    White isn’t even much better than Bush!! No wonder Arians and Licht’s draft record is so damn terrible. Take a D lineman!!

  19. WhatTheBuc Says:

    The mock drafts are predicting White to the Bucs at 5 because they are assuming that the top 3 linemen are going to be gone. I don’t recall seeing a single mock draft that has the Bucs taking White with one of the big 3 on the board. If it plays out the way that it is predicted then they have to take White or Oliver or trade down. JOE, NO EXPERT IS SAYING THAT THE BUCS DONT WANT ONE OF THE TOP PASS RUSHERS. What they are saying is that they will likely be off the board and none of the other candidates are a sure thing so the Bucs will go a different direction.

  20. Joe Says:

    White may be a better pass rusher than you think as a LB…

    Joe has written this before: If the Bucs use White as a blitzing outside linebacker, it TOTALLY changes the entire picture. To date, Joe has yet to read one word that may be the case.

  21. Marine Buc Says:

    Let’s be honest. We won’t know what the “correct” choice is for another 3-4 seasons. I believe White can be an amazing choice. We just lost an All Pro LB to free agency. He could actually be an upgrade over Kwon Alexander if he performs as expected.

  22. WhatTheBuc Says:

    Maze, What meltdown did Licht have in the 1st round last year? Vea looks like a great pick. He was our biggest disrupter at the end of the season.

  23. Christopher Schiefen Says:

    Your website’s credibility is really taking a hit with this, Joe (and after the high of the Arians scoop). The greatest coach of all time likes ILBs more than pass rushers. The system we’re in doesn’t rely on the Simeon-type pass rusher. And White may be the 3rd best player in this class. He’s not just an “inside linebacker”. The continued ignorance is kinda shocking at this point.

  24. Kobe Faker Says:

    “Kobe has completed his evaluations

    Qbs will all plummet and there will be a trading frenzy at the last 3 spots in the end of the 1st round to trade for QBs to be locked into 5 year contracts

    *Wont be many teams to trade up and they wont give much but…

    Attempt to trade down minimum 5 spots at the most. Draft Devin Bush and at least another 2nd rounder…

    Kobe analysis says Bush is better than White. Almost identical but better discipline

    Bush is an identical Roquan Smith.

    Bush will lead the league in tackles over 10 times before his career is over

    *Take Bush and wnd rounder over Devin Bush @ #5”

    Kobe Faker

  25. Greg Says:

    It is obvious Joe has his fingers in his ears when people talk about White then ignores everyone on the site. This has been addressed over and over every day. Its not like there has never been busts on the D-line in early pics. IF the Bucs pic White it will probably be because Williams, Allen, and Bosa are gone. There may not be a big drop off between the 2nd and 3rd round D-linemen but there is a huge difference between White and the 2nd tier linebackers.

    Pretty sure the Bucs know more than Joe on evaluating positions for their new scheme, which none of us even know.

  26. Bruce Blahak Says:

    1st-Front 7
    2nd-Front 7
    3rd-Front 7

  27. Buccaneerscotty Says:

    Thank the Good Lord you don’t run the team or you’d still be trying to stick up for Johnny football what a joke!

  28. 813bucboi Says:

    all of this white talk reminds me of dalvin cook….lol….

    imo, it smokescreen….we’ll draft q.williams or ed oliver…..

    white will do nothing if the dline aint up to par…..olinemen will be getting to the second level blocking him faster than he can think….


  29. WhatTheBuc Says:

    I’ll take a dominant pass rusher every time if one is available. That being said, for a franchise that has few achievements, one being that they drafted Derrick Brooks who helped change the course of the franchise, we are so quick to forget our history. Would Joe take Brooks at 5?

  30. JabooBuc Says:

    Joe, not sure to trust any of your draft instincts based on your history. Many of us were here last year talking up Derwin James and i recall you saying something like “who takes a Safety that high” or “he’s not that good on tape”. People who followed that kid knew he was a simply a stud athlete and football player.

    The same could be said for White. He is a stud athlete and football player. You need guys like him regardless of position. They are tone setters that raise the level of play of those around him. That being said, I do like Williams and Bosa for the same reasons but doubt they will be there at 5.

    I also like Bush and would be happy for a trade down scenario if they could land him.

  31. SCBucsFan Says:

    On a bright note Joe you will be able to complain for years, and get 100s of articles about how you were right, about this if you are correct.

    If you are wrong it will never be mentioned again.

  32. WhatTheBuc Says:

    Kobe, Bush is not White. For all those that talk about White missing tackles, he had 60 more tackles than Bush did last season. He had 40 more than Bush in 2017. If he’s missing tackles how the hell does he average 125 tackles a season. I don’t care if he makes arm tackles as long as he makes tackles.

  33. DBS Says:

    And it’s obvious we don’t know what any of these players are in the NFL. Only as usual college where some pay attention to them. It is as guess if it will transfer to the NFL. They could just become injury prone or busts. It is all a guess and gamble.

  34. D1 Says:


    This year’s owners meeting, the owners lifted the restriction on ILB and MLB rushing the QB.

    The shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line. Which is why an edge rusher is priority #1.

    #far-out #smokey and the bandit

  35. Doctor_berto Says:

    WhatTheBuc, the bucs also drafted Sapp before Brooks that draft sooo…

  36. Joe Says:

    If you are wrong it will never be mentioned again.

    If the defense does a total 180 and the Bucs magically find someone besides JPP to get consistent pressure and the Bucs finish in the top half for pressures/sacks, Joe will be happy admit guilt.

    Just don’t see it. Whatsoever.

    (Remember, as good as Roquan Smith is, the Bears had to pay a king’s ransom for Khalil Mack and only then did the Bears defense transform into an elite group.)

  37. Joe Says:

    WhatTheBuc, the bucs also drafted Sapp before Brooks that draft sooo…

    And as good as that defense was, it took Simeon Rice to make it complete.

  38. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    I have, for the most part, been in agreement with JOE when this sentiment comes up….

    But honestly, when I think about it…

    EVERY SINGLE GREAT Defense that you can think of in the NFL has had a GREAT inside linebacker.

    And what about the Leadership part? What if this is a guy that can completely take over the D from a Leadership standpoint… holding people accountable and making them better?

    Wouldn’t that be a HUGE addition to this team?

  39. Kobe Faker Says:

    “Kobe begs to differ

    Bush has far better play recognition

    Bush is much better technically

    Like the redhead kwonie, White over persues and gets caught out of place

    Bush is solid as a rock. He will sacrifice the splash play to get consistant 3 and outs”

    Kobe Faker

  40. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ WhatTheBuc

    I suspect that a player that makes a lot of tackles and misses tackles is also a player that is constantly around the ball…..sounds like another Kuechly to me.

  41. Doctor_berto Says:

    MarineBuc, Kwon was not All-Pro, far from it

  42. Pryda...Sec 147 Says:

    Nope not getting white at 5 lol 😂

  43. lowercaseg Says:

    Would rather have Mack Wilson in the second

  44. Anonymous Says:

    If the player can play who cares what position they play or when they’re drafted? ILB is clearly a need, and a good MLB can definitely the be the most impactful player on the field. Do you think they’re called the “Quarterback of the Defense” by accident? Think any Panthers fans would think twice about picking Keuchely in the Top 10? And as often as our defense got burnt on slants and quick drops last year, an ILB might be exactly what we need, maybe even more effective than an Edge/DT.

  45. Kobe Faker Says:

    “For the 2019 bucs season to bs successful (9 wins)

    We need 4 core rookies to start and make huge contributions

    We must have 4 rookies to fill these holes

    MLB, RG, DE, Corner and RB

    at least 4 holes need to be filled by rookies

    *only resonable chance of this happening is to trade down and get a additional 2nd round pick”

    Kobe Faker

  46. Magadude Says:

    Probably intentional misinformation IF indeed he is using comms with anyone on the Bucs. Another team needs this and it’s one way to get them to trade up…to take a guy the Bucs didn’t want and let them trade down and get a couple of more picks. God knows they need it.

  47. Joe Says:

    Thank the Good Lord you don’t run the team or you’d still be trying to stick up for Johnny football what a joke!

    Love Johnny!

  48. AwShbucs Says:

    Kobe I distinctly remember you saying that Devin White was going to be a hall of Famer. What changed smart guy? Or is Bush just going to be a better Hall of Famer?

  49. Phil Says:

    Montez Sweat.

  50. Says:

    I will buy a Jersey of whoever the Bucs pick 5th… unless it is a QB…lol.

  51. Defense Rules Says:

    @Kobe … “Kobe analysis says Bush is better than White. Almost identical but better discipline. Bush is an identical Roquan Smith.” Just lost all credibility Kobe. I haven’t read a single ‘football expert’ who’s said that yet. (BTW, Bush is a Will LB).

    @Kobe … “MLB, RG, DE, Corner and RB. at least 4 holes need to be filled by rookies.
    *only resonable chance of this happening is to trade down and get a additional 2nd round pick” Uhhh, first off that’s 5 positions Kobe. Secondly, assuming GMC is cut, his $13 mil (plus what we have) will allow us to pay the rookies and ‘buy’ 2 starter-quality FAs. Hopefully one of those would be a Corner.

  52. mark2001 Says:

    Phil…you might want to check Ira’s “5 don’t draft” list.

  53. D-Rome Says:

    That being said, for a franchise that has few achievements, one being that they drafted Derrick Brooks who helped change the course of the franchise, we are so quick to forget our history. Would Joe take Brooks at 5?

    I don’t know if Joe would, but I would not if a player like Warren Sapp was on the board. While I would not go nearly as far as tmaxcon does when he says Brooks would be a bench player if it wasn’t for Sapp, I do think that Warren Sapp elevated Brooks’ play.

  54. Kobe Faker Says:

    “Both will be all pros

    to make the hof (better chance imo), you need to win superbowls

    Dwhite is still raw. linebacker for only4 years? converted rb. Bush is more of a pure linebacker. played linebacker all his life and sees the game better. White might have a higher ceiling if he develops mentally but might never and be at this level

    my apologies both will be all pros but HOF is never a word i should has said

    is joey boza hof? no not even close yet. Mack? might if he produces at this level for 6 more years

    hof talent? i see only 1 player that has generational possible hof talent in this draft


    Kobe Faker

  55. WhatTheBuc Says:

    Berto, Quote the whole comment. Don’t take it out of context.

  56. Alanbucsfan Says:

    A pass rushing DE may be the most impactful position on defense, but Linebackers as a group are the most important factor in overall defense.

  57. Cobraboy Says:

    @ What the Buc: Brooks was questionable for thr 1st Roiund because he was seen as a “‘tweener.” ‘Tweeners don’t generally haver much of an impact and many are busts. Brooks was an exception.

  58. Doctor_berto Says:

    Anonymous, its about value. You can still trade back and select white but if you have a top 5 pick in a stacked class, you just don’t take an inside linebacker.

  59. Cobraboy Says:

    Quick releases will kill a strong outside rush, and those quick release passes are skewed toward the middle of the field.

    Those quick passes along with running down the Buc’s throat were the killer last three seasons. Ceertainbly the soft-cushion CB play by Smith made a bad situation even worse.

    But while a serious edge rusher in the Allen mode would certainly be a positive, having a fast, athletic ILB who is also the QB of the defense should not be overrated.

    You think the Bucs D would have been that bad had a Hardy Nickerson or Shelton Quarles been manning the middle instead of Mr. “look at me” Rooster Top?

    Fact is all most Buc fans know is a basic 4-3 alignment. We have NO idea what Bowles has in store, and what HE thinks the needs are.

    So Imma “wait and see” how this all pans out.

    If the Big # are gone…and it’ll take a couple of QB’s picked for the Bucs to have a shot at one of them…and Licht can’t pull a serious trade down, I’m fine if the pick is Devin White.

    I’d love if Bosa, Williams or Allen wore alarm clock numbers this season.

  60. Not there yet Says:

    Lol Geraldine would love this pick at 5

  61. Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:

    I’m still baffled that Joe doesn’t understand the 3-4 defense and how it is driven by LB play not DE’s…

    Oh well we will chalk this up to low football IQ like the Johnny Manziel love and thinking Dominik was a good GM

    Rachel Watson would be disappointed

  62. Christopher Schiefen Says:

    This insistence on an old school pass rusher (when the pass rush comes from creative blitzes in Bowles’ system) reminds me of having an ethos OTHER than Best Player Available. Light was OBSESSED with toughness last year, so we got Vita over Derwin (yes, that again). Going into a talent pool with your eye on something OTHER than talent is a fool’s errand.

  63. Isaac haggins Says:

    Again if it’s white , it won’t be at 5 !!! Even though Licht is already defending the pick , I don’t think it’s at five because they can pick up a second and fourth and still get white and a second and two thirds and get Bush .

  64. Bird Says:

    Take luke Keukly out of the Carolina defense and what are they

    Are they even a top 20 defense ? Middle linebacker is the engine of a 3/4 that Todd Bowles is instilling as first year defensive coordinator.

    Give me a break . Want some wine with your cheese. Feel like I’m around my 4 and 5 year old nieces and nephews.

    I would rather have a pro bowler /leader at one position
    Then potential edge rusher whose average.

    I’m good with Olivier if the big 3 gone.
    But devin white would be so much fun to watch as a buc.

  65. Marine Buc Says:

    @ Doctor

    I agree. Did you see the part of my post where I mention that White could be an instant upgrade over Kwon? No? That’s ok. I forgive you.

  66. BuccoBoras Says:

    In 2015 Minter and Buchanon were starting LB’s for the Cards in a 13-3 season. It was Bettcher calling the plays in Bowles system. Bowles was with the Jets. I know they’re older now but they know this defense really well. If healthy I can see them playing a lot. I also think Lavonte David will be the 2013 version of himself. If White does get drafted at 5, is he the instant starter and leader of the D? The Bucs wanna win now. I’m just wondering outloud. What if White doesn’t make an immediate impact. Would grabbing a D-lineman who might, and waiting on Bush or Mack Wilson be a better idea? Is White really an elite player, regardless of position, to warrant the 5th pick? If he really is, then draft him at 5, but if not…

  67. GhostofSchiano Says:

    Dave Says:

    Other than David, the Bucs LB corps is looking bleak. If David gets hurt, that defense is toast. So LB is a major need and the talent level at that position drops off a lot after the first round.


    Go Bucs


  68. Conte Piscatelli Says:

    I continue the read that the league is a vertical passing game these days, but I would argue outside of the Bucs the league has been all about crossing routes and WR screens. Last I checked ILB plays in the middle of the field where those routes cross.

    I wonder how much crow how will eat in 15 years if White’s name goes up in the ring of honor for the Bucs or any other team that drafts him?

  69. Yusef Says:

    Oh Joe, if its true, still a asset to this defense, with that said, remember when reporters have said we were almost surely to take a specific guy and we didn’t! Come on Joe! Nobody was talking about us taking Vita Vea last year, it was all about Dewin James, and what happend? exactly the opposite!, stop taking these reports so seriously

  70. pick6 Says:

    if it’s so unthinkable, why is everyone with football knowledge predicting it? i haven’t read a single respectable football mind criticize the player or the idea of the player going at 5. i’m not saying everyone needs to submit to groupthink, but i am saying it’s extreme by any observable standards of football thinking to go on this rant as if this player is destined to have a johnny football type of career arc.

  71. pick6 Says:

    i am really interested to see what becomes of the relationship between d white and this publication if the kid is drafted by the bucs next week and has a 10+ year tenure as a team leader. should be a fun first meeting at least

  72. Birdman Says:

    Joe is getting all bent out of shape on positional value this year..
    Where we’re you when we drafted a nose tackle at 12? Or a Y-tight end in the middle of the first?

  73. Z31 BUCS Says:

    WhatTheBuc Says:
    “Quote wh*le comment. D*n’t take out of contxt”

  74. Z31 BUCS Says:

    Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:
    “Oh well we will chalk this up to low football IQ”


    That’s ok. It was VERY big of you to admit it.

  75. JimmyJack Says:

    Joe for what it’s worth the experts disagree with you. Several times throughout this draft season I have heard them talk about getting the best players avialable.

    It gets mentioned all the time in your articles through quotes

    What I never hear is that you don’t draft specific positions with premium picks. I’ve heard no ody say this about MLB from this year. I heard no ody say it about G(Nelson) or RB(Barkley) last year & I heard nobody say it about S(Ramsey) 2 years ago.

    This theroy about not getting certain positions because of their position has been proven wrong hundreds of times throughout history………..And if the Bucs do take White and he prooves to not be worth it it will be because of the player. Not position………..Again, this is proven through history.

  76. morgan1672 Says:

    Joe you have to remember, Bowles’s defenses have always been top 5 in the NFL for the percentage of blitzing. White is a very good blitzer. So in a sense you are getting a pass rusher

  77. Maze Says:

    Derwin James will probably be twice the player Vea will turn out to be

  78. No expert Says:

    With a draft loaded with defensive talent and a huge need on our roster on the edge, lb and the secondary. Our first pick will definitely be an offensive tackle.

  79. BringBucsBack Says:

    GotBucs! Concise! Thanks!

    Joe, until the Rams drafted Gurley & the Cowgirls ‘Zeke, the view league-wide was that a “RB could be gotten anywhere”. True! However, do you think either team regrets going against traditional thinking and drafting a playmaker?

  80. No expert Says:

    I don’t think Chicago regrets taking a mlb at 8 last year. All he did was have 122 tackles and 5 sacks. Don’t know who we have that is that productive.

  81. Just Sayin’ Says:

    We never seem to draft the player that is mocked to us, nor the players all the fans are infatuated with. Usually a head scratcher surprise

  82. gotbbucs Says:

    If Joe is against a pick, then I am all for it.
    He wanted no part of Quenton Nelson last year either. Guards arent worthy of being a high pick he said. Now LB’s arent either evidently, except many of the most highly thought of football players in NFL history, especially on the defensive side of the ball, are middle linebackers.

    I dont know if there is a single worse draft evaluator in the free world than which ever one of these Joe’s is the most obnoxious come draft time.

    Running the ball and stopping the run are still the two most important agendas in football. The pass rush has zero effect when it is constantly 2nd/3rd and short. I feel like I’m trying to explain this over and over again to a simpleton who has never watched the game.

    Joe sees a sack and thinks nothing of what actually led to the sack other than the player that happened to get there first. Usually it’s on a 3rd and medium/long and the team getting the sacks is playing with the lead. How did we get to that down and distance and how did we get up on the score board?
    Probably by using a balanced offense that averages at least 5/6 yards on first down and by stopping the run on defense and forcing 2nd/3rd and longs.
    Joe logic says just put fast guy on edge and tell him go get QB, it so easy even caveman can do it.

  83. Defense Rules Says:

    @BuccoBoras … “In 2015 Minter and Buchanon were starting LB’s for the Cards in a 13-3 season.” Very true Bucco, but why didn’t you also show 2016? That year both also played a BUNCH, and the Cards went 7-8-1. Defense regressed considerably in terms of POINTS ALLOWED. And yes, they are both older now, as is LVD. What’s the future of our LB corps look like? Cichy? Bulloughs? Bond? Even less of a pretty picture than where we stand with our DEs. Much of our defensive youth sits in the back-end of our defense … our Secondary does have some promise BTW, IF we can ‘fix’ the front-end.

  84. gotbbucs Says:

    I guarantee you that Vince Wilfork and Jerod Mayo, Donte Hightower, and Teddy Bruschi all meant more to New Englands pass rush over the years than any single edge rusher they ever had in this whole time frame of their success in the last 15 years.
    That’s why Belichick allows pass rushers to leave the building every offseason.

  85. Jimmy Says:

    No LB was drafted in the top 5 last year and most of the LBs that were taken in round 1 were graded higher than White. 5 would be a reach. If we must have him, trade back first.

  86. Jean Lafitte Says:

    @Defensive End

    after JPP, and Nassib …you’ve got Gholston …really? then there are unknowns Spence, Harris, Huguenin, O’Connor


    after David, Minter, Barrett, Bond, and Bucannon you’ve got known Cichy, and Bullough, and unknowns Nelson, and Smith

    We need a pass rusher before a run stopping LB

    If JPP or even Nassib goes down we’re in a lot of doo doo

  87. James Walker Says:

    Name a edge rusher the Bucs have drafted not in the HOF?