“I Gotta Evaluate Him;” Bruce Arians Won’t Commit To Gerald McCoy

March 26th, 2019

After breakfast with Bruce Arians today, Joe wouldn’t bet a dollar that Gerald McCoy plays for the Buccaneers this season.

Arians is known for not spewing a pile of BS, so it’s quite noteworthy that on March 26, he doesn’t know if McCoy is good enough to play on his football team at his $13 million salary for 2019.

Arians made that very clear.

“Financial is a big part of it. I gotta evaluate him,” Arians said. “I mean, guys his age, it’s different. Usually they age when they get paid the most and production don’t match. So we got to find that out. It’s very hard [to determine] because we can’t get in pads. You know, but you still [can] see it in [OTAs]. You know, you still see his enthusiasm for the game. If he still has all that, I’m fine.”

Arians went on to say the film on McCoy shows “he’s not as disruptive as he was four years ago but he’s still a good player.”

Joe continues to smell a draft day trade and the Bucs drafting a defensive tackle at No. 5 overall. Joe wrote last week that the Bucs were leaning that way and this is simply more evidence.

75 Responses to ““I Gotta Evaluate Him;” Bruce Arians Won’t Commit To Gerald McCoy”

  1. GringoMandingo Says:

    Hit the road Jack and don’t you come back no more no more

  2. Buccernutter Says:

    I’m just trying to figure out who u want at #5 if Williams isn’t there. Ed Oliver? At #5?

    Could be solid but I’d rather trade down. Give me sweat, white, bush first though.

  3. ATrain Says:

    What Bruce said that????

    Wow I believe some of the Fans said that same thing

  4. alaskabuc Says:

    I know Oliver isn’t getting nearly as much love as Williams, but he appears to be a legit game wrecker. Jason needs to dump Mcsoftserve and his bloated salary to find some way to get Oliver to Tampa. Best case scenario, dump 93, find a trade for the 5th pick, slip a few places score #10 and an extra pick or two.

  5. Bruce Blahak Says:

    Always thought the Bucs could get a decent pick for him, but now I just want to see him gone. Cut if they must. Guess his game tape is showing up with the new staff. SOFT as melted ice cream….

  6. Wausa Says:

    I am not sure if a team is willing to be saddled with his enormous contract.

    He has always been elite at getting penetration into the backfield. His problem is he does not have good instincts for the position. It is not uncommon for McCoy to whip the guard in front of him, but the running back still runs right past him.

  7. Jamaal Stanley Says:

    There is a God..

  8. Jamaal Stanley Says:

    Neither nutter we’re running 3/4 next season and already have a nose tackle that perfectly fits. Sure you know the measurables 6’5 346lbs. Think he goes by Vea.

  9. Jamaal Stanley Says:

    Phsst😊SMH man. The money is the biggest issue,scheme for which isn’t is next biggest issue.

  10. Pistol Pete Says:

    Writing is on the wall…really like the candor Arians has….
    Pistol

  11. D-Rome Says:

    Wow, that is quite the comments about McCoy. Simply put, a “good player” that is 30 and up shouldn’t be paid $13 million a year.

  12. Jamaal Stanley Says:

    This is actually the biggest and best news so far thus off season. For crying out loud this cried on the sideline,looking for hugs and [email protected]$: from teammates. He must go.

  13. Jamaal Stanley Says:

    Oh happy days are here again😁😁😁.

  14. Jamaal Stanley Says:

    I love my new coach! No none since,ain’t holding nobody hands round here. Show up give yo all or get the f([email protected] on.

  15. Doctor_berto Says:

    Ed Oliver please!

  16. AlabamaBucsFan Says:

    McCoy is still with the Bucs as trade bait during the draft or post draft. If he is not traded by then, the Bucs will run out of money to sign the rookies and will no doubt release him.

  17. Jamaal Stanley Says:

    OMG this just made my workday.. Thank yooouuu Joe.

  18. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    There most certainly be a restructure or trade of GMC….(doubt he is simply cut)

    We could pick a DT @ 5…..or even in a trade down situation….but that is not a certainty.

  19. Not there yet Says:

    My thing is Vea was a bad pick if his ceiling is simply a space eater. Dude needs to lose a bit of weight this off-season and move to 3 tech and draft a mid round space eater. If they are smart they trade McCoy because it’s just time.

  20. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    Wow he truly is as straight-forward as we thought.
    Really refreshing. Cool as hell.
    I feel like the team is definitely in good hands with B.A.

  21. Buc believer Says:

    Well now Joe and the rest of the people that thought McCoy was the greatest thing since the thong bikini must be all SO upset! The poster boy for stealing a teams cash and fooling some into saying he earned it…. his days in Tampa hell as a football player are numbered! SORRY GMC NO MORE FREE RIDE! Good

  22. El Buco Realisto Says:

    LOL, Now the sheep want to trade gmc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its a year too late sheep!!!!!!!!!!!! Huge draft for defensive line, which means that there will be a huge glut of old defensive cuts!!!!!!!!! no value at this time for GMC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its a shame that the higher ups forced the dc to run a scheme around gmc and build around him, because he shuts down if the scheme does not fit gmc!!!!!!!!! But we told the sheep this over a year ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2019 will reveal answers to the sheep, that the real fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  23. GhostofSchiano Says:

    “He’s the sideline dancing queen,”

    “13 million is a bit obscene,”

    “You can dance, You can Smile”

    “Carries himself like Gomer Pyle”

    “Ohhhhh see that McIcecream, he’s so soft, he is the sideline dancing Queen”

  24. Bucsfanman Says:

    SMH! Some of you missed your calling!
    If GMC is playing somewhere else, it will be strictly a business decision.

    Who will be the next scapegoat I wonder?! Probably Ali Marpet since he has so much effect on the outcome of a game! Oh, that, and he doesn’t elevate the play of the players around him!

  25. Mike Johnson Says:

    I got Macdaddy stayin here this year.

  26. Kyle Says:

    all you jerks slamming gerald mccoy are aholes. The guy is a class act on the field and in the community. Its just football, pretty classless slamming the guy and talking spit. If he doesnt make the team, wish him well! He has suffered through his prime with a bunch of dog sh!t coaching and teammates. His best years were wasted. I respect mccoy for the man he presents himself as. All you couch potato dbags that talk smack could probably learn something from his leadership

  27. Jmarkbuc Says:

    NTY

    “My thing is Vea was a bad pick if his ceiling is simply a space eater. Dude needs to lose a bit of weight this off-season and…”

    I wonder if Vea stayed in Florida for the off season, gotta stay year round for a couple a years to get acclimated.

    Or just be a November- December warrior again. Vea still has a ton to prove.

  28. Jmarkbuc Says:

    Kyle

    are you wearing your Superman or Batman PJ’s today….

  29. Kyle Says:

    jmark, wearing yo mommas! lol

  30. Lord Cornelius Says:

    “LOL, Now the sheep want to trade gmc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its a year too late sheep!!!!!!!!!!!!”

    Most everyone here called for McCoy to be traded last year. I can go find a sh1t ton of people saying that including myself.

    But continue on dude. You are a great fan and super respectful of everyone here.

  31. JabooBuc Says:

    Vote NO on Ed Oliver.

  32. Joel Says:

    BYEEEEEE!!!!!

    Thank God. This guy has been cashing stolen checks from Glazer for too long.

    See ya.

  33. Kyle Says:

    jmark, what are your credentials to make that opinion of vea? Are you a scout? do you work at one buc? You sound like some guy with a big mouth and no real understanding of the game.

  34. Buccernutter Says:

    Well I mean Joe is advocating for a dt. I don’t want one and I’d bet a lot we don’t take one, it was more directed towards his thoughts.

    I don’t care who got turned off by his response. Devin white is a solid pick. But I’m leaning towards bush as of lately.

  35. Loyaltotheend Says:

    Kyle

    He’s just not that into you

    13 million for a NT who doesn’t change games and in a 3-4 Your LB’s make the plays while the linemen eat up space. Trade him or restructure him for 6-7 million

  36. Buccernutter Says:

    Wouldn’t be surprised if we traded mccoy to move up to 3 and get Williams or Allen.

  37. Jmarkbuc Says:

    Seriously Kyle?

    Lived in Florida most of my 54 years…been a Bucs fan and attending games since they started, and I have two eyes.

    That’s about all it takes to back up my otherwise innocuous comment about Vea.

    Vea hasn’t shown yet what he can be. Everybody knows that. It’s a fair statement.

  38. Buc believer Says:

    Kyle…. YOU TELL EM BRO!!!! Poor GMC has suffered SO much here in Tampa! He has suffered 100 million times more than most of these yahoos calling him out! I’m with ya Bro!

  39. Doctor_berto Says:

    Buccernutter, you’d have to give McCoy, your first and probably a 3rd or 4th to move up even a spot. McCoy has zero value with his contract.

  40. straightcashhomey Says:

    Ohhh…is @Joe “continuing to smell a draft day trade” with GMC??? Cause some of US on here said long long long ago, long before “last week”, or the league meetings, that likely GMC would be dealt in the draft. Funny.

    Well, hell…it must be true now right…@Joe’s now smelling it 🙂

    Land Quinnen!

  41. Defense Rules Says:

    Joe you reminds of someone with a laser pointer bouncing it all around to drive a bunch of kittens into a frenzy. And today’s laser point is … tada … BA won’t commit to GMC. Let’s see, BA won’t commit to a 30-year old DT whose production is declining and who’s making $13 mil that we desperately need. Yup, bounce that off the wall again and watch the kittens go berserk. This sure is a silly time of year.

    I agree with Realist, it’s a year too late. If you were another GM, would you pick up GMC’s $13 mil a year for 3 years contract? Because that’s what you’d have to commit to in a trade, unless GMC agrees to restructure for less $$$/fewer years. And if you release him outright, you’d have to spend one of your Top Round picks to replace him … with a rookie to pair with Vea (another almost rookie). But that’s OK, because they’d be backed up by near-rookies in the LB corps & Secondary. Yup, that’s surely a formula for success. Wonder why Licht didn’t think of that earlier.

  42. gotbbucs Says:

    I said it before, he’s only on the team right now because the draft hasn’t happened yet and he doesn’t cost anything right now. He’s gone, he knows he’s gone, it’s just a matter of time.

  43. DB55 Says:

    Problem with McIceCream is he has no heart! He’ll be fine in OTAs but come 4th quarter of that game where we’re up 5 and need a goal line stand he’ll disappear as always.

  44. Lord Cornelius Says:

    “If you were another GM, would you pick up GMC’s $13 mil a year for 3 years contract? ”

    If I were the Colts I would. They have TOO much $$ right now. This type of signing is perfect for them because it’s temporary and during a time where they have an insane amount of cap room and many have them projected as SB favorites next year.

    For McCoy he could restructure to take a signing bonus restructure / front load his contract so that it benefits him and the Colts who can try to win a SB with him next 2 years and then dump him if they want without much financial penalty.

    The colts have 2 4ths and 2 2nds this year.

  45. tmaxcon Says:

    No coach has survived cancer93 yet… BA better get cancer93 out of town soon or he will be the next coach who failed with his soft ass on roster

  46. pelbuc Says:

    Please evaluate GMC right out the door. Good riddance!

  47. BringBucsBack Says:

    …and McCoy’s perfect replacement? Wilkins, out of Clemson. Why? He likes dressing up in Power Ranger outfits…seriously!

  48. El Buco Realisto Says:

    @Lord of Corn

    Why would the Colts do that, when they could just use one of those second round picks and get a better DT for a fraction of the cost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2019 season will reveal answers to the sheep, That the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  49. Bucsfanman Says:

    SCH- Can you get me those lotto numbers for next month?!

  50. Lord Cornelius Says:

    “when they could just use one of those second round picks and get a better DT for a fraction of the cost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

    They very easily could do both. I doubt they’d give a 2 for McCoy but maybe a 4. Should have traded him last year like most the “sheep” here were actually saying..

    They have $75 mill in cap space even with Andrew Luck carrying a $28 m cap. I duno why they were so silent in FA. They could do a deal where they don’t give up much draft capital for a proven vet and it would have no impact on their ability to sign sh1t loads of FAs the next 2 years if they wanted.

    Or they may just wait for us to cut GMC

  51. Locked In Says:

    Why would you say something like that if you wanted to trade him??? That just seems stupid to me.
    I think they will try to restructure his deal and keep him at least for this coming season.

  52. Greg Says:

    Well hell, I’ll bet you a dollar Joe he’s still on the team (which sucks because I never win bets, but I’m sure I’d win this one)

  53. Greg Says:

    Guy pulled a little less than half a million dollars PER tackle last year–GTFOH!!!

  54. Duthsty Rhothdes Says:

    Licht with another non move that is hurting the bucs. 3 moves at least are hurting the bucs from not trading djax, grimes, & mccoy last season when they would have fetched a higher draft pick. 5-11 GM

  55. JabooBuc Says:

    Total restructure set up. If you are paid that kind of money at that position, no way you should have to watch film to determine if he was good or not. He should just jump off the page. No way they pay him $13 M this year.

    He is either traded, restructured or cut. Mark it down.

  56. gp Says:

    Restructure to 3 mil with massive incentives, say $300 K per sack?
    He could still get his 13 plus we would have a double digit sack artist, Win-Win!

  57. Bucsfanman Says:

    BTW, anyone thought about what the D-line would be without GMC last year? For instance, does JPP get double-digit sacks playing next to Beau Allen, or Vinny Curry, or Will Gholston of all people?
    No, he’s not the DT he once was. He’s still valuable……somehow!

  58. Anonymous Says:

    Locked In Says:
    March 26th, 2019 at 4:26 pm
    Why would you say something like that if you wanted to trade him???

    because BA and everyone else outside of the card carrying cancer93 nut-hugging society led by Joe and Hawaiian realize cancer93 is worth nothing in a trade therefore no need to be cryptic

  59. tmaxcon Says:

    Bucsfanman

    let him go big guy….. let him go…. with or without cancer93 the bucs have been embarrassing for nearly two decades… let’s ask the real question, think about how nice it would have been if they would not have drafted the clown in the first place! maybe the last decade would have produced a SINGLE MEANINGFUL WIN!!!! We already know beyond a shadow of a doubt they can lose with her.

  60. JimmyJack Says:

    Enough with the restructure crap. Y’all either don’t know how restructures work or are extremely dense.

    Read the article for crying out loud. It barely sounds like they even want McCoy for this year. Why in the world do you think they will restructure him and guarantee him multiple years?
    Its never going to happen.

  61. SteelStudBuc Says:

    Trade down with Raiders. 1st rounder and McCoy for both Oakland’s 1st round picks in the 20s

  62. Greg Says:

    Put down the crack pipe SteelStudBuc!

  63. Lamarcus Says:

    Trade him for what he is worth….. Either a undrafted rookie or a 7th round pick in the supplemental draft.

  64. TDTB Says:

    Draft Q if he’s there, trade down once or twice and take Simmons. Simmons will be harder given Winston’s history…but by all accounts his baggage is behind him

  65. __TGH__ Says:

    Looks like they are waiting to squeeze him to restructure his contact IMO. He knows if all the big FAs get signed now, very few teams will have an extra $13M lying around to pay him his current salary. He might as well take the cram down and stay in Tampa at that point.

  66. gotbbucs Says:

    My question is this, I’ve been reading article after article on this site about how McCoy is an All-Pro caliber player, and he’s one of the top DT’s in the NFL… why is it then that no other team thinks he’s worth the $13 million. I mean, someone will sign him when he gets released and he wont get close to that money, but many of us of sane mind and spirit have been calling for his a$$ to move on for years, that his presence has been holding back the team, yet no other team wants him at his current salary?

    What gives? Either we were right and he isn’t what everybody says he is, or…………..some of us are right, he isnt what everybody says he is. He’s a middle of the road stiff who manages to guess the right snap count once or twice a game and then tries to arm tackle and misses.

  67. BuccobruceJR Says:

    Yo I bet any amount of money we trade big softy to the big apple!

  68. Buc believer Says:

    @GotBucs…. that sir is the BEST description I have EVER ahead of Batman! Great job sir!

  69. Buc believer Says:

    Guess Joe doesn’t like me calling him out…. he puts my comments in moderation. Can you say sensorship?

  70. Buc believer Says:

    Yup censorship is alive and well! Don’t you dare talk about GMC!!

  71. FuNkYxMuNkEy Says:

    I have to agree with Joe on this one. If Q falls to 5 he will be our pick, if not then either we trade down and take Oliver or stay at 5 and still take Oliver. He has the potential to be the closest thing to Aaron Donald, no one is or will be as good as AD, but Ed can ball. The only other player I think we would consider at 5 is Allen and I think he will be gone before #5.

    This next month can’t get over soon enough. GO BUCS!!

  72. Joe Says:

    Guess Joe doesn’t like me calling him out…. he puts my comments in moderation. Can you say sensorship?

    You are not censored but Joe can resolve that issue if you wish. 🙂

  73. Bucsfanman Says:

    tmax- I can’t help it dude. I live and breathe Buc football. I get your point but in your heart of hearts,you KNOW I’m right.
    The good news is that we will have to different discussions once he’s gone. In fact, I’m having my lawyer draft some papers for you to sign regarding catch phrases you will no longer be able to use due to the “excessive use” clause!!! LOL!

  74. Anonymous Says:

    Is BA ready to get rid of McCoy or trying to make Gerald prove him wrong? BA, master motivator?

  75. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    Alaskan Abdominal Snowman Says:
    “profootball talk is the TMZ of the NFL.”

    ~~~~~~

    I always respect your thoughts, Snowman, so this one really surprises me.
    PFT just might be THE MOST well-informed and well-regarded go to entity in all NFL circles. Mike Florio has put the work in for a LONG LONG time and is relentless in his need to get it right.