Jameis Litmus Test Means “More Dysfunction Is Coming”

January 2nd, 2019

“Jason, one of these candidates wants competition at QB. Didn’t he get the pre-interview briefing?”

When it comes to the Bucs’ future leadership, the hypotheticals are limitless and they all add up to a big mess.

That’s the message NFL super insider Mike Florio was barking on his national NBC Sports Radio show in the wake of the Dirk Koetter firing.

Florio’s logic says Team Glazer and general manager Jason Licht now insisting Jameis Winston is their 2019 quarterback is a giant red flag.

“How can you hire a new coach and say, oh by the way, we’ve made the decision on who your quarterback’s going to be?” Florio asked rhetorically. “That never works. … You’re asking for trouble.”

It’s a fair take by Florio.

Why? Because Jameis hasn’t proven he’s better than average as a starter. (He also hasn’t proven he’s worse than average.)

How would Licht/Glazer react if a head coach candidate they desire said he’s hungry to work with Jameis but also insists on drafting a QB to groom and compete?

Would that disqualify the candidate? Is a Jameis-only mindset a litmus test?

Joe believes there is a Jameis litmus test in place as part of the head coaching search led by Licht.

And that’s really why Bruce Arians is likely the best head coaching candidate for the Bucs. He’s such a QB guru that he should be able to get every lingering Jameis question answered in one season, which is what the Bucs need done.

Joe’s not sure any other candidate out there can accomplish that.

94 Responses to “Jameis Litmus Test Means “More Dysfunction Is Coming””

  1. Asdf Says:

    Complete disaster if the new HC doesn’t have the option to draft a QB. Need to hedge against bad Jameis

  2. Dan Says:

    These owners are so inept. Why must we suffer year after year. We all know what’s gonna happen. They will force more Winston garage at us and we will suffer more and more painful losses. It’s just flat terrible to be a Bucs fan over the last decade. We love our team and our city. Why else would we cheer every year knowing we will loose most games. Real talk from Tampa native 1978

  3. Ryan Baker Says:

    Making him a prerequisite was is gonna end up being disastrous .

  4. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    Jesus, this is really not worth an article. Jameis is a solid QB with a lot of untapped potential. Any coach worth his salt should believe that he can take all of Jameis’s positives and make him a great QB. Franchise QBs don’t grow on trees and we need a coach that can come in and bring the best out of him.

  5. BucEmUp Says:

    Nobody knows what is being said. I’m sure whoever gets the job its obviously going to be for 2-3 seasons at least. Jameis will get next season and then the head coach can decide where to go from there. Maybe he is granted permission to use a high pick on another qb…nobody knows.

  6. Morgus the Magnificent Says:

    Winston’s presence has created a complete and utter train wreck!!

  7. SchwiftyBuc Says:

    What better options are out there? Oh that’s right, there aren’t any. Plus if we end up hiring Eric Bieniemy then we’ll easily see the best version of Jameis we’ve ever seen.

  8. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    Any coach that wants to blow a first or second round pick on a QB should be laughed out of OBP and immediately dismissed. This team needs help on defense and the o line and doesn’t need create a need at QB and waste a valuable pick instead of addressing a real need.

  9. Larry Says:

    I sincerely hope I am wrong, but I believe Winston is a disaster waiting to happen!!! Too many off the field issues, that I believe, is a bi-product of the way he thinks, which effects the way he plays and the decisions he makes. Hopefully he has grown but only time will tell. Maybe a different Head Coach can help him with some of his decision making, both on and off the field. For now, he is the MAN in Tampa.

  10. Stanglassman Says:

    Jason Licht already put this point to bed when ask about it. He said every coach that he’s been in contact with him it was a non issue.

  11. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    TouchDownTampaBay Says:
    “Any coach worth his salt should believe that he can take all of Jameis’s positives and make him a great QB.”


    No doubt, man.
    This is not rocket science.

  12. John B Says:

    Um, without JW on the roster, we have NO one – Fitz and Griffin are FA’s

    a QB is going to be signed as a FA and drafted this off season – heck, maybe we sign 2 FA’s based on who lands here

    How do we know they don’t let the new coach have an open competition?

    All speculation right now…

  13. StoutGospel Says:

    BA might not be a bad backup, the more I spin it around. Maybe Bowles or Del Rio as DC with him. But….

    The real fix lies in….JOHN Harbaugh. And then his staff choices.

    Please Team Glazer, swing for that fence.

  14. Christopher Schiefen Says:

    You mean the guys who stuck by a guy with a 27-53 record don’t make good decisions?

  15. SchwiftyBuc Says:


    It’s almost like people that are actually football literate recognize that Jameis warts and all is no where close to being as bad as biased media talking heads or ignorant fans try to make him out to be.

  16. Jonathan Lipnicki Says:

    A wobbly as Winston has been at times…working for Licht would be far more concerning. Add Richard to the interviewee list. 👍

  17. Alaskan Abdominal Snowman Says:

    We are interviewing Kris Richard!

    Ohhh yeah brother!

  18. meh Says:

    He’s proven he’s worse than average off the field. Licht and Winston need to go out with Koetter.

  19. StoutGospel Says:


    Neah, Rapaport said that so there’s no way it’s happening.

  20. AlteredEgo Says:

    Which is WHY…I repeatedly said the wisest thing to do was to keep L&K&J until this time next year….Let me be perfectly clear !..I am not sold on any of the 3…G’Boyz and Licht jumped out of the plane without a parachute thinking one would magically appear…it seems a lot of potential coaches are waving to Licht and the G’Boyz and saying “Good luck…………………………………”
    SMH Gif

  21. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    Alaskan Abdominal Snowman Says:
    “We are interviewing Kris Richard!”


    I saw that, Alaskan. Confirmed a little bit ago.

  22. Lord Cornelius Says:

    Most the PFF writers have been pretty anti-Jameis historically. Not Florio in particular but there have been a ton of negative pieces from that site on Winston so I would have expected an article like this regardless of the reality of this actually being any sort of issue.

    In general they have a pretty negative slant on a lot of stories. If you look at their rankings of coaching vacancies they all sound bad and doomsday/gloomsday basically other than Cleveland.

    Smart NFL ppl tend to know the QB class this year is weak. Winston’s #’s from the Giants game forward were extremely efficient. 64% 7.9 YPA 14 TD 4 Int with 2 interceptions being either a hail mary or off a WR’s hands. He’s 24. Seems pretty dumb to hire a coach that would want to run that off. I’d say that’s a red flag by itself for any candidate personally.

  23. Bad Influence Says:

    Handcuffing the new coach to Jameis is idiotic.

  24. westernbuc Says:

    If Jameis was locked down with a five year contract, that would make sense.

    My guess is that Licht has already scouted QB prospects and knows that Jameis is better than all of them.

    Florio is wrong, again.

  25. ben Says:

    Only local fans think Winston is a decent qb …nationally not so much

  26. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Joe’s not sure any other candidate out there can accomplish that.

    Is Joe saying that improving Jameis is totally dependent on the HC we hire?

    I think not.

    Furthermore, unless the new coach is signed to a 1 year contract…..he will likely have great input on Jameis and the draft.

    If Jameis was such an absolute, why no long term contract for him?

    I support Jameis and believe he is our best option…..until he isn’t.

  27. Joe Blahak Says:

    The Jameis debate forever lives, ugh….Are you all blind? Just casual Football watchers? How anyone with football knowledge can say this guy will be something and lead to championships is mentally challenged. Ball security=fail….accuracy=fail(10 foot wideouts would help)….good decisions=fail….winner=fail….4 years ain’t enough to see this? Get your eyes checked! And don’t go on about former Bucs making it elsewhere. Let him go, I’m not worried about that. Byron Leftwich clone….said it at the draft

  28. Bucsfan951 Says:

    This new coach will get 1 year to fix Winston. If winston is a loss, they will cut bait and draft a new qb in 2020. The coach will get 1 yr with Winston and 2 yrs with his new qb. Licht will be getting another 3 yr contract soon. If everything fails, licht, the new coach and the new qb are gone after the 2021 season.

  29. AlteredEgo Says:

    Lord Cornelius Says:
    January 2nd, 2019 at 5:40 pm
    Most the PFF writers have been pretty anti-Jameis historically. Not Florio in particular but there have been a ton of negative pieces from that site on Winston so I would have expected an article like this regardless of the reality of this actually being any sort of issue.

    if you read any of the internet article comments about Jameis from outside of his comfy Tampa Town Crib……I would say his national perception on and off the field is 8 out of 10 bad….right or wrong…that is how he is perceived

  30. scbucsfan Says:

    You are all right. We should fire all 45 on the active roster and rebuild with fresh players. Let the new coach pick them all.

    This blog is filled with idiots.

  31. Kobe Faker Says:

    “Jameis starting QB as 2019 is foundational…

    drafting a QB and grooming the rookie while Jameis is starter is dysfunctional

    If JW shows he is a franchise QB next year, he gets a new contract or franchised

    If JW bombs next year, there is no more financial obligation and they draft a QB on 2020 when there will be more elite QB prospects coming out to choose from

    Floria is a tad better reporter than Peter Schrager…Yes that bad”

    Kobe Faker

  32. gotbbucs Says:

    Arians got Big Ben killed, he got Andrew Luck killed, and he got Carson Palmer killed. You have to be careful what you wish for here.

  33. stpetebucsfan Says:

    “Why? Because Jameis hasn’t proven he’s better than average as a starter. (He also hasn’t proven he’s worse than average.)”

    Agree with Joe’s take completely and that is what clouds our debate. At QB we have NOBODY except for JW. There are no great FA’s nor draft prospects.

    Jameis is our best chance for at least average qb play next year and he still has enough potential to create some greed in Buc fans. No longer for me…I think JW can be a “good” qb but I’m just not seeing greatness. Time will tell not our opinions.

    As far as the next coach….if we don’t have faith in him to make the proper QB call…Jameis or not…I don’t want him.

  34. Native Tampa Buc Fan Says:

    What is the definition of insanity , doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome ! The owners are insane and so are all of us for supporting them !!! I dumped my box years ago and just laugh at these idiots every year ! They are dumber than a “bag of hammers ” !

  35. TDTB Says:

    Regardless of whether the Bucs think Jameis is the future or not, it was/is a sin to announce that. With the fifth pick in the draft (and none of the prior four needing a QB), the Bucs need to posture the pick to create a bidding war between teams that want it. It’s tougher to do that if bidders know the Bucs won’t take a QB. That immediately eliminates a single place trade up by the Giants. My guess is that Jameis is preferred but if the new H.C. says he wants a QB at 5 and can prove why that person is better, the Bucs would pull the trigger.

  36. Conte Piscatelli Says:

    Ok look. Jameis is the quarterback for next season. If they were really going to handcuff the next coach they would have given Jameis a 5yr extension, which to my knowledge hasn’t happened.

    For comparisons sake, other openings:
    Green Bay-Rogers

    I’m pretty sure these teams will tell any new coach, this is your quarterback, like it or leave it. Jameis is the Bucs quarterback next season, after that either he isn’t resigned, or if he has a great year, he may end up walking to a better offer in free agency. Any new coach isn’t going to be saddled with a big long term contract to Jameis unless they sign off on it.

  37. Darin Says:

    Nobody is handcuffing nobody. All he said is Jameis will be here next year. Didnt say couldnt draft one. Didnt say he had to start. The best player in training camp at every position will start. Unless i missed some of Lichts comments people are doing the new norm…ASSuming.

  38. Elita Vita Says:

    Arians still APPEARS to be the best fit for the Bucs at the moment. Well one thing is for certain…someone needs to be hired to be coach and one never knows if it will work out….Time to hope that Bucs fans hearts won’t be trampled upon once again.

  39. Kalind Says:

    Retarded. Absolutely stupid take. Think the packers aren’t telling their candidates “hey you have to stick with Rodgers..” of course they are. Florio is a tool.

  40. CC(Head) Says:

    Florio is a d bag. He has hated JW since he came out of college.

  41. Cobraboy Says:

    It may mean a decision has already been made, and all this is just window dressing.

  42. Duthsty Rhothdes Says:

    Everyone saying Jameis has to be coached up by some better coach out there just add to the excuses defending jameis. Koetter is gonna get a job in 3 days after being fired to be OC. Then Monken is up for HC/OC jobs, so 2 guys coaching jameis, the NFL ppl feel are great at their jobs. I think Jameis should be kept next year as options are Foles, Flacco, and Eli all about the same as Jameis. The bucs team has huge holes and unless we can get an arians, kitchens and bowles combo, the team is 2-3 years away. Agree w florio kinda bs to handcuff a new HC w jameis and esp licht unless its a strong voice like arians or mccarthy

  43. JimmyJack Says:

    Yes Conte. Had this same argument last night. Calling this dysfuctional is naive.

    Every other team may hire a HC and already have a QB on their roster but if we do it it’s dysfuctional. It’s a double standard.

    Didn’t hear anybody call Miami dysfuctional for keeping Tannehill for Adam Gase….or Vrabel and Mariotta…..or NYG with Eli.

    You can look through history and come up with so many examples of similar situations. But when we do it it’s dysfuctional.

  44. Jean Lafitte Says:

    more dysfunction???? I thought we plateaued already? 4 years and Winston can’t win unless everything is perfect around him. Let’s say we get Arians for next season, then by all accounts with a QB whisperer and America’s QB we should go 9 – 7 at least.

    but, but, but, Here come the excuses in advance

  45. JabooBuc Says:

    Joe, it is my understanding that Jameis is paid the $20M if he is on the roster opening day. Is that correct?

  46. SteelStudBuc Says:

    Why can’t we just throw Ryan Griffin in there instead of a draft pick.

  47. AlteredEgo Says:

    Dollars to donuts every potential candidate has or will talk to Dirk….remember coaching at every level ST-WR-HC is a fraternity with secret hand shake and confidential talks …. that fraternity knows more about the ins and outs of the Bucs franchise than the owners or the media’s

  48. Getaclue Says:

    A lot of overthinking here. Jameis isn’t locked up for 5 years. It’s one year, that means if the coach flops with Jameis first year he pretty much gets a pass for the first year and a chance to bring his own guy and a fresh start

  49. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Jaboo, it’s actually in March when the NFL season starts. If he gets hurt between then and training camp the Bucs are on the hook for 20 mil.

  50. Chris Says:

    Another thing to consider. Jason Lichts future is in limbo as well. Why would any coach want to come here when the guy that hires him has 1 year left and has been so bad his future is in limbo?

  51. First Down Tampa Bay Says:

    Well if they don’t want to work with a talented young QB they can look elsewhere. They’re coming to us for employment, so they can meet our demands. Plenty of fish in the sea, and if they don’t like Jameis, they can sign Mike Glennon and march straight to a 3-13 season.

  52. JimmyJack Says:

    Jean that is if you call it dysfunctional. As stated above all the other teams operate in the same manner.

    It’s just a unfair statement.

  53. Chris Says:

    Dewey Selmon Says:
    January 2nd, 2019 at 6:23 pm
    Jaboo, it’s actually in March when the NFL season starts. If he gets hurt between then and training camp the Bucs are on the hook for 20 mil.

    No. That’s false. The season is over. If he gets hurt on any non football related injury, the bucs are fine

  54. Fire Light Says:

    Florio is a hack. He’s a known Jameis Basher. What he says and who he is irrelevant. He sucks at radio and life. Florio is Fake News, terrible takes, and I’ve heard he smells funny.

  55. Kgh4life Says:

    Forcing Jameis Winston on to the incoming Head Coach is not the right move,however, if the new Coach has the authority to draft a QB in the 2nd round of the 2019 draft that will satisfy all parties involved: Jameis has another year to prove himself, the new Coach has a young QB to groom and it will create some type of competition.

  56. Stevbobucsfan Says:

    Thank you steelstudbuc. We have another QB in Griffin on staff and I am sure the new HC will have plenty say so on signing, trading and even drafting a QB if needed. So what the hell these sports anlyst are talking about disfunction because they say Winston gonna be around. Hell Winston contract ain’t even garranteed

  57. JimmyJack Says:

    Chris that may not necessarily be a negative. If things don’t work out next year the HC can run off Licht and assume full control of the team. How many HC gigs have that possibility?

  58. Fire Light Says:

    Whoever hired Florio should be FIREEEEED!

  59. MHBuc25 Says:

    Does Arians know how to handle Uber rides? Let’s break it down… for the simplest minds you basically call this company and request a ride while you’re drunk. For those not smart you can avoid ALL contact with the driver and be on your way. How does Bruce Arians draw this up on a playbook? What are the odds of execution? I’ll hang up and listen.

  60. Waterboy Says:

    There are only 8 jobs available and plenty of qualified candidates. Take it or leave it.

  61. Duthsty Rhothdes Says:

    Altered ego, great points, and koetter is very respected in this league and agents talk as well. Im sure Florio gets tons of info pro/con from agents too. Djax agent is bad mouthing the bucs right now so that is out there

  62. 911bucs Says:

    While BA would be a nice addition, but thought he already expressed a a potential landing spot in Cleveland? Besides Baker Mayfield may have more upside and raw talent than Jameis.

  63. SchwiftyBuc Says:


    Coaches in the NFL are essentially part of a huge fraternity. And in that fraternity, it’s generally frowned upon to publicly state that you want a Job that’s currently taken. At the time of Arians expressing that he was only interested in coaching the Browns, that’s because it was the only Coaching vacancy at the time.

  64. Doc Says:

    If Winston was white non of this would be said. You tell me when the last time a coached brought his own Quarter back. He knows what he has when he steps into the door. This has Doug William written all over it. This new coach will be told you have this defense and the player’s under contract. Tell me one reason Winston,should not be the quarterback, and who should take his place. First year quarterbacks look good until defense coordinator’s get film and a off season to review them,some call it the sophomore jinx. All of the outsider’s always talked about replacing Winston, but never no names to replace him.

  65. Not there yet Says:

    That’s completely stupid and not because I have to be a Winston supporter. First off yes anyone could draft a quarterback any year every year but doesn’t mean one is worth drafting. Anyone with common sense that’s not trying to be controversial knows that any coach could easily understand giving Winston a year with a new coach to see what he could accomplish

    Only idiots think a rookie is what’s best for a veteran offense and rookie head coach. Hey if you draft a quarterback this year so be it but Winston still comes back

  66. Defense Rules Says:

    @Joe … “When it comes to the Bucs’ future leadership, the hypotheticals are limitless and they all add up to a big mess.” Now THAT’S what I call a lead sentence Joe. Reading through the comments, it’s obvious that “the hypotheticals truly are limitless” as you say (probably an understatement actually). And as far as adding up to a big mess goes? The BIG MESS has already arrived. How much worse can it get? (Oh wait, Cleveland might start calling itself TampaBay North. Ya, that’s worse).

    One more hypothetical folks haven’t considered yet (I think) … What if the next HC says what the Glazer Boyz & their Lapdog want to hear (so he gets the job) BUT then does what he wants to do anyways once the losing starts. Desperate times call for desperate measures (I’m guessing that Dirk Koetter might’ve said something similar when he fired Smitty and benched Jameis).

    Bottom line: We’re in uncharted waters. THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES OF ANYTHING GOING FORWARD. Our beautiful Buccaneer ship could just as easily turn out to be the Titantic as it could the Good Ship Lollipop.

  67. Aceofaerospace Says:

    I obviously don’t have any inside information but I haven’t read anywhere that says Licht or the Glazers demand Winston is “the” quarterback, but “a” quarterback. I’m sure they want him on the roster and able to compete for the job, but I say again, no coach worth his salt will take this job with his hands tied like that. True competition will be brought in or the Bucs will have to settle for a 3rd or 4th tier coach, in other words, a desperate one.

  68. Fire Light Says:

    Jameis is a prime example of a polarizing figure. I can assure you all that he is a great man and one heck of a QB. In Jameis I Trust!

  69. TOM Says:

    With all the talk about Arians, when is he going to get interviewed? None of the coaches that are being interviewed by the Bucs right now excite me.

  70. Stokes963 Says:

    If you we need draft a qb at 5 you probably think we need to draft another kicker in the 2nd. @Asdf

  71. Stokes963 Says:

    If you think we need draft a qb at 5 you probably think we need to draft another kicker in the 2nd. @Asdf

  72. Rob in Land O Lakes Says:

    If this team hires the right guy (huge if), the presence of Jameis is a big plus. Follow me: This is a garbage QB class and there is nothing even remotely close to the ability of Jameis in the FA market. At #5, we are all but assured of getting an impact Defensive player. If Jameis performs, that means we likely found a defense that can actually play and an offensive line that can block people. If so, all is good. If Jameis is the cancer-causing anti-Christ you think he is, we will have a high pick in the 2020 draft which is shaping up as a terrific QB class. Additionally, a losing 2019 campaign means Licht is assured to be gone.

  73. Bird Says:

    Fire light

    Aka Webster.

    Why changing your name. Don’t be scared

  74. Rod Munch Says:

    5th overall in the league in QBR

    Games (9-16), 1,811 yards, 64.3% comp, 7.87 ypa, 14 TDs, 4 INTs, 100.1 rating

    vs. NFC South, 1,202 yards, 62.5% comp, 8.35 ypa, 11 TDs, 4 INTs, 105.1 rating

    NEXT GEN stats…

    #2 in NFL in completed air yards
    #2 in NFL in intended air yards
    #2 in NFL in aggressiveness
    #1 in NFL in air yards to stick

    So what do all those Next Gen stats mean? It means Winston was throwing deep, a lot, which is backed up by Fitz having similar numbers in Next Gen. When you’re aggressive with the ball, mainly because the defense has put you behind early in the game, you’re more prone to turnovers. I know how the Winston haters think he should play like Mike Glennon and just take sacks and not throw the ball unless a guy is open by 10 yards, and they’re fine with 3 points a game so long as there aren’t any turnovers, but in the real world that’s a boring loser mentality unless you have the 2002 Bucs defense.

    Anyways we saw in the second half of the year the “safe” Winston that the Winston haters say doesn’t exist. He was careful with the ball, even the 4 INTs are BS as literally half of them were on hail marys.

    Oh and here’s another fun fact. Winston was the 2nd leading rusher on the team and lead the team three times in rushing.

    Anyways if the Bucs go with a semi-aggressive offensive with a legit running game those stats are going to improve quite a bit since Winston will be inflating his stats with those short passes – which increases the completion percentage, and at the same time not throwing deep as much will decrease turnovers. Of course it also probably means we score less points, and that will be what the Winston haters will then say, that sure his turnovers are way down (like they were the entire second half of the season) and his comp is up, but now they’re not scoring points. Well, no s$@# Sherlock, that’s the entire point of being aggressive in the first place. In other words the Winston haters are fake news and will never be happy about anything, ever.

    With all that said… Winston should compete just like every other QB should compete. But the Bucs also shouldn’t be bringing in anyone that doesn’t believe in Winston. That doesn’t mean he automatically gets the job, but it also means you don’t put in place a coach where he wants “his” guy – much like Schiano did with Josh Freeman and ruined him because he wanted his guy Mike Glennon as starter.

  75. MadMax Says:

    Minshew in the 3rd, maybe 4th.

  76. Duthsty Rhothdes Says:

    hey rod 5-11

  77. RyJo Says:

    Did I miss Licht or the Glazers announcing that any potential head coach was forbidden from drafting a QB? I’ve been consuming a lot of Bucs-related news since Koetter was launched and I haven’t seen anything like that.

    Less baseless hypotheticals and more news and analysis please.

  78. VFL98 Says:

    That might be the stupidest article and saying I heard in a while. So saying your keeping your first round draft pick another year and letting everyone know that and furture coaches then it is a RED FLAG?? Wow!! Talking about making drama. Only in Tampa.

  79. VFL98 Says:

    Also if JOE knows then it must be so. I mean it Joe was a coach we would have drafted Johnny football..Right JOE??

  80. TheNorm Says:


    Lmao idiot calling an article the stupidest while not knowing the difference between “your” and “you’re” lmao

    What a moron. Classic irony. Hahahahaha

  81. Thisisagarbageblog Says:

    Eight dollars an hour people, come on!

  82. Richard Dickso Says:

    Saying Jameis is your QB in no way precludes you from drafting a QB.

  83. Doc J Says:

    There are only 32 NFL Head Coaching jobs in the world. If working with Jameis for 2019 raises a red flag for you, there’s a line of coaches out the door that would jump at the chance.

  84. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:


    All they did was announce that they were going to honor the extension already in place for 2019. It’s not like they said “oh by the way, we’ve made the decision on who your quarterback’s going to be” for more than a year.

    A good coach will want to have Jameis for at least a year anyway, just to see what they can get out of him.

    There is no red flag.

  85. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    VFL98 Says
    “That might be the stupidest article and saying I heard in a while.”

    Stupid is not understanding it wasn’t Joe who said it, it was Mike Florio. Joe just quoted him.

  86. Rod Munch Says:

    Hey Duthsty – 31st ranked defense. 3rd ranked offense. 1st ranked pass offense.

    But yeah, QB is the problem.

  87. gp Says:

    how many idiots can fit in one room?

  88. Destinjohnny Says:

    You would have to be a fool to take this job
    You will wreck your coaching career

  89. Bad Influence Says:

    TDTB – excellent analysis. Side note: Joe, thanks for being more objective on the Bucs reporting. Good to see you haven’t caved to the Jameis apologists. Go Bucs!

  90. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    All they did was announce that they were going to honor the extension already in place for 2019. It’s not like they said “oh by the way, we’ve made the decision on who your quarterback’s going to be” for more than a year.

    A good coach will want to have Jameis for at least a year anyway, just to see what they can get out of him.

    There is no red flag.”


    Perfectly said, Bonzai.
    100% SPOT ON.

  91. D-Rome Says:

    #2 in NFL in aggressiveness

    Ummm, Rod Munch, that is not a good stat to boast about. Not at all! You should read about what aggressiveness means. Being tops in the NFL at throwing into tight windows means he’s not seeing the field and he’s taking too many chances.

    Being at or near the top in the NFL in aggressiveness says **nothing** about whether or not he’s completing those passes. It just means he’s throwing too often into tight windows. Nothing to boast about. The best QBs in the NFL are lower on that list.

  92. The Buc Realist Says:

    nothing says failure when the first interview question is “will you work with jw3″ and not ” how will you get the Bucs to win”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But it is not surprising at all!!!!!!! This is the same organization that forced a DC to run a scheme he did not want to because gmc93 wanted to be in a scheme that was “better for him”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  93. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    ^^ So much ado about literally nothing. == A coach coming into the Bucs and understanding that JW is the starting QB is no different than any other coach going into any other job where there is already a starting QB.

  94. Gambelero Says:

    It’s one thing to “draft a QB.” It’s a totally different thing to say let invest our first round pick in a QB. And moving up to 1 or 2 to get a QB is yet another totally different thing.

    The opportunity cost of a third or fourth round pick is pretty high, but that same cost for a 5th overall pick or for a move up is astronomical. If you thing Peyton Manning is on the board, okay. Otherwise, we have too many holes to fill.

    Give me a Ramsey, a Mack, a Joe Thomas, a Julio Jones, a Saquon Barkley and I’ll roll with Jameis.