theMMQB: Maybe Koetter Survives

December 28th, 2018

Not done yet?

Albert Breer is getting serious mixed messages.

Breer, who now fronts theMMQB.com, is very plugged-in when it comes to NFL inner workings behind the drapes and NFL TV klieg lights. And it seems like Breer is being fed very different scenarios about what Team Glazer will do in the coming days.

On one hand, Breer is being told Team Glazer began sniffing around for coaching candidates in September, which seems a bit difficult to believe since the Bucs were 2-2 at the end of September.

(If Breer’s information on this is accurate, that tells Joe the Windy City Wipeout and specifically then-defensive coordinator Mike Smith doomed Bucs coach Dirk Koetter).

On the other hand, Breer is hearing Team Glazer may have its sights set on one coach and if the Bucs are unable to get their man, Koetter very well may be retained for 2019.

The ouster of Bucs coach Dirk Koetter has been considered a foregone conclusion since September, but there’s been chatter over the last couple weeks that this one isn’t quite over yet. I’ve heard Tampa wants to make a splashy hire, if they are going to go get a new coach, which contextualizes Mike McCarthy’s name being connected to the job. If that’s not there for them? Maybe Koetter survives. A big issue, though, is that the vast majority of Koetter’s assistants are on expiring contracts, so Tampa would need to commit to those guys for another two years, and all of them would have the chance to leave on their own volition if they saw Koetter as a lame duck going into 2019.

Joe absolutely believes Team Glazer wants to make a “splashy” hire. They love splash. That notion is totally believable if not expected.

Here is the thing. Just because a dude sitting at the end of the bar hasn’t heard of (insert a name) does not mean the guy is a bad coach. There are good coaches out there. You just have to find them.

Joe will once again repeat, Bill Walsh was blacklisted, Father Dungy was Team Glazer’s third option in 1996, and Don Coryell was an obscure coach from a small school and all three of them turned around historically rotten franchises.

101 Responses to “theMMQB: Maybe Koetter Survives”

  1. AlteredEgo Says:

    The Ole “rock and a hard place”…. or “ one foot on the dock and one foot on the dock “…. Based on the variables, uncertainty at the QB position… the uncertainty at the HC and GM positions… One more year… every one will know for sure by then…

  2. lewis Says:

    Good luck with that if hes kept there will be no one to cheer for the team

  3. Eric Says:

    The last time splash was used was when they traded for Jon.

    Rah, Greg, Lovie, Dirk were hardly splash.

    As a matter of fact neither was Dungy at the time he was hired.

  4. Rob Says:

    Glazers cannot I repeat CANNOT sell Koetter to it’s exasperated fan base. If they want to sell tickets, and I believe they do, they have to make a move at HC and probably GM. Make the move end another playoff less coaching group. Inept is inept and you aint selling that anymore. Go Bucs!

  5. Loyaltotheend Says:

    I’m almost rooting for this to see al the Tampa media have egg on their face especially the leader of the Stick Carriers or whatever they call themselves now

  6. Loyaltotheend Says:

    The Glazers thought Lovie was a splash…

    Don’t trust these jokers with this hire

  7. AlteredEgo Says:

    Rob… you left out the guy that handles the ball on every offensive snap in the inept equation

  8. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I have it on very good authority that the Glazers are interested in Vince Lombardi.

  9. MHBuc25 Says:

    You want to talk about a lame fraud scheme? The Stick Carrier movement. I feel for the people who spend their money on that stuff. And then they create a new slogan to sell some more shirts and vacations.

  10. MHBuc25 Says:

    Loyaltotheend Says:
    December 28th, 2018 at 1:19 pm
    I’m almost rooting for this to see al the Tampa media have egg on their face especially the leader of the Stick Carriers or whatever they call themselves now

    A fraud scheme.

  11. gotbbucs Says:

    They’d like to make a splashy hire, but nobody that will make a splash wants to coach this team.
    Sloppy seconds is what this team gets. They’ll be connected to some big names, but that’s always agent driven gossip.

    Let’s see, you can either coach Aaron Rogers, Piss n’ Vinegar Baker Mayfield,…..or America’s Heavy Petting QB Jameis Winston on a one year $20 million contract, at the end of which you have to decide to either live with him forever or start over and most likely build the beginnings of a team that someone else will coach in three years.

    Decisions, decisions…

  12. quattrolou Says:

    Very few loyal fans will accept this. It was hard to accept last year. There is no way you can sell me “things will change/Hope”
    He has to be done. A new coach may not change anything, but it will hopefully excite us a little bit. Hope, not wins, is all we ever have. You’re not selling me with another year of Koetter.

  13. Waterboy Says:

    I can’t see it happening at this point. If they’d gone 8-8 or 7-9 I thought there was a very good chance that Koetter might return but at 5-11 or 6-10 he won’t come back. I’d bet on that.

  14. Loyaltotheend Says:

    Quattrolou-

    How do you fire a coach after a one losing season? That mentality of “should’ve fired him after 2017” makes little sense

  15. Bucs fan #7423 Says:

    Whoever is head coach next year should get a mulligan on Jamies for one year if he stays

    That way they’ll be no doubt left whether Jamies is our franchise quarterback

  16. Eric Says:

    we have been competitive.

    That second half vs the Saints killed us. Missed field goal, then blocked punt.

  17. BigMacAttack Says:

    2019’ attendance at RayJay: 14 and 1 cat.

  18. Stanglassman Says:

    I would pick Jameis over the others if I was a confident, competent coach. But I’m a Bucs fan of Course I’d say that, right?

  19. Bucsfanman Says:

    Tampabaybucfan- I have it on good authority that the Bucs are taking a serious run at Gene Hackman.
    Hackman is rumored to be in communication with Shane Falco and Nigel Gruff, the kicker, in between smoke breaks of course!

  20. Jmarkbuc Says:

    There can’t be any way Dork survives. For so many reasons.

    His passive/aggressive pressers

    The crazy things he has said and done. (He lost me at the beginning of the second half of the Chicago game, when he told the sideline reporter ” I don’t have anything to say to “Them”…)

    He still can’t manage a game clock, timeouts or challenges

    His waffling on who is calling plays

    His inability to fire Smitty, or pay any attention to defense/Special teams.

    Dork is in a great situation really,

    1. Get fired
    2. Take a paid vacation for a year
    3. Get hired as an OC by a team that believes all the hype about how great the TB offense was, when in reality it racks up a lot of yards playing sandlot ball, but can’t score points.

  21. miken Says:

    With some of the names I’ve heard as replacements… thats fine. Jameis and jason will be back so its not like we will win.

  22. MHBuc25 Says:

    Jmarkbuc Says:
    December 28th, 2018 at 1:42 pm
    There can’t be any way Dork survives. For so many reasons.

    His passive/aggressive pressers

    The crazy things he has said and done. (He lost me at the beginning of the second half of the Chicago game, when he told the sideline reporter ” I don’t have anything to say to “Them”…)

    He still can’t manage a game clock, timeouts or challenges

    His waffling on who is calling plays

    His inability to fire Smitty, or pay any attention to defense/Special teams.

    Dork is in a great situation really,

    1. Get fired
    2. Take a paid vacation for a year
    3. Get hired as an OC by a team that believes all the hype about how great the TB offense was, when in reality it racks up a lot of yards playing sandlot ball, but can’t score points.

    Fitz didn’t have any problems lighting up the scoreboard to start the year. It wasn’t until the roster found out JW was going back in when things unraveled, about Week 3.

  23. Eric Says:

    I doubt any hire will fill the stadium.

    The fan base has been beaten down to a dull zombie state. Like the prisoners in Midnight Express.

    We just don’t believe we can escape anymore. Just waiting for the next disastrous season to unfold.

  24. Lordcornelius Says:

    All I know is they have made terrible front office decisions through all the misery and nothing changes until the owners actually pick a HC/GM.

    It’s all on you glazer boys. Plz stop f*cking this up so hard

  25. Jmarkbuc Says:

    Eric

    Without a fantastic front office hire, that leads to better hires in all positions, I’m afraid you are right.

  26. SOEbuc Says:

    Rob

    “Glazers cannot I repeat CANNOT sell Koetter to it’s exasperated fan base. If they want to sell tickets, and I believe they do, they have to make a move at HC and probably GM.”

    With Koetter again, there’s gonna be NO offseason tickets sold and when he goes 5-11 again that stadium they’ve put SO MUCH into is going to be a ghost town till 2021 Super Bowl.

  27. Darin Says:

    Make a splash. Even make a trade. No way they keep Klueless. The know the value of bucs fans in those seats every week. It goes far beyond the ticket price. Dirk stays its empty next year. The guy has shown us what he is. No thanks.

  28. T REX Says:

    Walsh and Coryell are from the 70s. WTH? No one wants this job.

  29. D-Rome Says:

    Glazers need to hire a new GM first and let that guy pick the head coach.

  30. Locked In Says:

    Is Ray Perkins still alive?

  31. SOEbuc Says:

    The guy just doesn’t have it to be a head coach. No intensity on game day. Doesn’t have a clue about defense, which makes it hard to put together a good defensive coaching staff. A basic playbook that has no splash. When they brought in DJax and said they wanted more splash plays all they were talking was him catching deep balls. Just isn’t working with this team.

  32. Eric Says:

    the 32 NFl teams split close to 8 billion in tv revenue. Over 200 million per team.

    Attendance is not a major economic concern.

  33. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    If they keep Koetter, that means a whole new defensive staff…or does anyone really think Duffner will do a good job long term?

    I do not.

    So far as a big splash, only two names come to mind…Jim Harbaugh or Mike McCarthy…unless the Steelers fire Tomlin.

  34. Bucsfanman Says:

    What?! No takers on the “Replacements” reference?! I’m like the Rodney Dangerfield of JBF, “no respect, I tell ya’!”

  35. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    SOEbuc, your assessment of Koetter is off.

  36. GP Says:

    If Koetter stays, Monk, Duff, and Buck can stay but the rest must go!

  37. Mikiebucsfan76 Says:

    As Lewis said , if Koetter is brought back, the Glazers are gonna have a time filling the stands. I don’t know about this big splash but I do think the Bucs has got to make some changes and 1 has to be at HC. I think K. Richard with the right OC would bring a bang or the OC with then Titians with the right DC would Bring a bang. if they don’t have their guy with some what of an agree by now, I think they are gonna end up in a bidding war being that there could be as many as 6 opening come Sunday. we saw what happened with Gruden, we won the super bowl but put the team in a hole with no 1st and 2nd round draft picks for 2 or 3 years

  38. Knucknbuc Says:

    If by splash the glazers are thinking Mike McCarthy I’m out. Lovie 2.0 there look at the similarities. Both NFC north both only had great players only on one side of the ball but couldnt do sheit for the other side. Both were nearly fired 3 years before they actually did get fired because they would luck into winning a few games at the end. Mike McCarthy is puke I’d rather keep koetter see what he can do without anchor Mike smith and without his qb getting suspended the first few games. I’ll pass on the lovie 2.0 experience thank you.

  39. Buc82 Says:

    Zac Taylor LA Rams

  40. Knack2Babbyyyy Says:

    I would rather keep Dirk Koetter over Mike McCarthy.

  41. SteveK Says:

    I’d rather have Koetter back than McCarthy too!

    Koetter is a good offensive coach.

    I’m all for giving Licht, Jameis, and Koetter one more year if we can’t get either of the brothers Harbaugh or Gruden.

  42. SteveK Says:

    Bring back the band unless you can get either of the brothers Harbaugh or Gruden.

  43. Eric Says:

    McCarthy was in NFC Championship Game in 2016.

    Also 18-10 in playoff games.

    Give me some of that puke please.

    Oh, and a super Bowl win.

  44. Eric Says:

    In the playoffs 9 out of 12 years.

    And folks want Dirk instead?

  45. SOEbuc Says:

    Buccaneer Bonzai

    “SOEbuc, your assessment of Koetter is off.”

    How is that? Guy stands around blank faced (looks like John Cooper except he’s a really good coach) with his grandma glasses and then I have a strong feeling it was the Glazers that fired Smith, not Koetter. I can add plenty of other inequalities but that would take till next September.

  46. Eric Says:

    Lovie had 3 playoff teams in 9 years with the bears and 3-3 record in playoffs. Ok if you don’t like McCarthy but his record is way better than Lovie’s time with the bears.

  47. MHBuc25 Says:

    Eric Says:
    December 28th, 2018 at 2:24 pm
    McCarthy was in NFC Championship Game in 2016.

    Also 18-10 in playoff games.

    Give me some of that puke please.

    Oh, and a super Bowl win.

    ********

    Brett Favre/Aaron Rodgers ——————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————– I could add 10 more dotted lines —————> Bucs QB situation.

  48. MHBuc25 Says:

    Eric Says:
    December 28th, 2018 at 2:24 pm
    McCarthy was in NFC Championship Game in 2016.

    Also 18-10 in playoff games.

    Give me some of that puke please.

    Oh, and a super Bowl win.

    **********

    You give me Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers and I’ll take you to the playoffs at least 5 years.

  49. cobraboy Says:

    A new coach will not fill stands. Only winning will fill stands. Splash will make no difference.

  50. Bucsfanman Says:

    Whoa, whoa, whoa! Ya’ll can’t be serious that you’d take Koetter over McCarthy?! McCarthy had SIX (6) NFC North Division Titles in his 13 year tenure and one S.B.
    He missed the playoffs 3 times in that span, THREE!
    Yup, he’s a “terrible” coach.
    “Lovie 2.0”? Not even close.

  51. AlteredEgo Says:

    I thought Jamyth was going to fill the stands……
    A general statement sadly those days are over for the NFL…yeah a winning team at the top of the standings will have better attendance but the days of long time season ticket holders is a dying demographic…..times have changed

  52. Eric Says:

    Can’t blame a coach for having a good QB.

    Most do.

    Is Belichick lousy cause he had Brady? Walsh lousy cause he had Montana and Young? Johnson sucked cause he had Aikman?

  53. Bucsfanman Says:

    Eric- Know who you CAN blame?!

    A GOOD GM!!!!!!!!

  54. BucBargainBin Says:

    If the Bucs keep Dirk Koetter, they run the risk of not having one but multiple malcontents on the team

    As soon as things start to go south or even a little inconsistency would cause those players to rise up, cause locker room tension, and underperforming the rest of the season.

    Keeping Koetter doesn’t speak to winning now or any type of accountability.

  55. Brett Buell Says:

    I expect Koetter to get fired, but it would not surprise me if the Glazers decide to keep him.

  56. quattrolou Says:

    @loyaltotheend…
    Yes I agree it’s hard to fire a coach after one losing season. With that being said, the reasons I wanted him gone last year was because I knew the result would be exactly what it was this year. I saw a trend toward last years end with play and on top of that the inexperience Dirk had with the job and poor decisions. I knew another season wouldn’t change anything. I believed that although Dirk was only head coach for a few years, he was with Jameis, who wasn’t progressing, for years before he was the head coach. If it didn’t change then, i felt nothing would change this year and it didn’t.
    Now Jameis did screw up things with the suspension, but Dirk proved himself fireable by taking over playcalling after the team was on fire. Since then the offense has not been the same even though he gave playcalling back.
    Bottom line, I want something positive to root for, I want this team to compete and WIN.

  57. PSK Buc Fan Says:

    If Dirk says , I’m gone as a season pass owner! Plain and simple!

  58. Eric Says:

    Well remember Ted Thompson once hired McCarthy as head coach.

    That ain’t bad.

    But I doubt McCarthy would soil his career to work with Jason.

    Mike would be going away the most accomplished head coach the bucs ever hired.

  59. SOEbuc Says:

    Mikiebucsfan76

    “I think K. Richard with the right OC would bring a bang.”

    Word. I would love to get Richard. If Buckner stays on the dline that continues to improve, and have Richard coaching up all this young secondary, this defense could be a total reverse from most points allowed in history. That would likely be an intense coaching staff, also.

  60. PSK Buc Fan Says:

    Ok I can’t type on my phone…..

    If Dirk stays , I’m gone as a season pass owner! Plain and simple!

  61. lokog Says:

    as long as that pu%^y wr d jax is gone

  62. Alaskan Abdominal Snowman Says:

    Time to drop 15M/yr in Jim’s lap, how could he refuse that?

    Or offer half that to Richard!

    I think I would be equally excited with either of these guys.

    Anyone else, except maybe Tomlin, there is a big drop off IMO.

  63. SOEbuc Says:

    Bucsfanman

    “Whoa, whoa, whoa! Ya’ll can’t be serious that you’d take Koetter over McCarthy?!”

    Yeah those people started happy hour way too early. Knockin back on Granpa’s ole’ cough syrup.

  64. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    CUE 813….

    Kris Richard would probably be a splashy hire.
    Not a splashy name……. yet.
    But probably a splashy hire.
    He just might be gold.

    I too have had a funny feeling the last few days, for some reason, that the Glazers just might shock everyone and keep Koetter.

    IF (and it’s a huge if)… they decide to go that route.. than they sure as hell do not do Koetter any favors by (2 seasons in a row) waiting to the end of the year to decide this. If DK knew he was actually going to be here long term, he probably could have been a TON more effective, with coaches, and with the team in general.

  65. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    Tampabaybucfan Says:
    “I have it on very good authority that the Glazers are interested in Vince Lombardi.”

    ———-

    now THAT would be a SPLASH HIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    and I bet the man could STILL fricking coach.

  66. Iron Wombat Says:

    “Fitz didn’t have any problems lighting up the scoreboard to start the year. It wasn’t until the roster found out JW was going back in when things unraveled, about Week 3.”

    Or more realistically 2 games of film were enough for competent DC’s to game plan against what the Bucs were doing offensively. Fitz had 5 more starts after those 2 games. Don’t give me well JW came back in the building and the wheels instantly came off the offense even when he wasn’t playing. I swear the Bucs might have the dumbest fanbase in all of the NFL.

  67. Aceofaerospace Says:

    These last two seasons were absolutely wasted. The Glazers won’t waste another one. Bank it.

  68. StoutGospel Says:

    With all due respect to Albert Breer, he’s got to be careful to not become like an Ian Rapoport style dude. Talk about the cellar?!? Peter King was a good mentor for Breer, when King was still at the MMQB. First, with conflicting reports on these supposed sources, neither can be proved/disproved, thus it doesn’t exactly inspire confidence toward Breer in the quality of the information. Thus, pure speculation. Anyone…can do that.

    If “splashy” were to be believed (Keyshawn trade, acquisition of Gruden, etc..) which does happen to somewhat fit the Glazer mold–publicly known though–than this guy feels like this…..

    When the Glazers traded for Gruden, the offense was in shambles, defense was majorly in place through Dungy’s tutelage and great prior drafts. Gruden was renowned as an offensive “genius” at the time, what the Bucs desperately needed then. So…where are the Bucs now?? Defense is in shambles (mostly), the offense is humming an player-equipped as hell….so what do the Bucs need immediately and comprehensively RIGHT NOW??…

    TRADE for JOHN (bleeping) HARBAUGH!! Another coach trade for this time a defensive tough SOB, that exactly fits almost 2 decades later EXACTLY what these Buccaneers (in dresses) need.

    Splashy. JOHN Harbaugh. You’re welcome.

  69. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    Bucs fan #7423 Says:
    “Whoever is head coach next year should get a mulligan on Jameis for one year if he stays

    That way they’ll be no doubt left whether Jameis is our franchise quarterback”

    ——————

    I actually think that is quite fair, #7423.
    One way or the other.

    For all of us JW supporters or detractors….. we ALL want success…
    for the BUCS.

  70. MadMax Says:

    Rivera is returning to the panthers….

  71. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    ^ Is that one set in stone, Max? I had not heard yet

  72. SOEbuc Says:

    Richard would be much cheaper than any of these big names that are not guaranteed to turn one of the worst teams in the league around. Trade for Rivera or Tomlin if you wanna bring in a “splash” name.

  73. jmarkbuc Says:

    Kris Richard?

    Maybe he would be a good HC. But a guy who is hand maiden to Rod Marinelli doesn’t appear to me to be a guy you elevate to HC.

    He’s a secondary coach. He’s not even running an entire Defense. How is that like running an entire team?

    Would love to have Tomlin..but Steelers generally don’t release a guy who has never had a losing season. That and Tomlin is very aware of the dysfunctional Glazers..It would be going from the penthouse to the outhouse.

  74. cmurda Says:

    It frightens me that the Glazers may seriously contemplate keeping Dirk. The scarier part is because of the Winston debacle, how sexy is the Bucs HC job? Probably not so much. Now, considering the likely top 5 teams in the draft needs. Only 1 would really be looking QB unless the Bills pick ahead of us. If we end up with say, the 6th pick in the draft, it has to make this Tampa job more appealing. There’s potential for trade down or to land an elite player. Very interested to see whether Licht is making that pick. Let’s not forget that I saw nothing less than an A for Licht’s last draft immediately after. It’s looking like he hit on 3 or 4 of those picks without knowing much about how Watson or Cappa will turn out. That’s not terrible but too many high round misses for me.

  75. Mikiebucsfan76 Says:

    As I said earlier with all these big name coaches, they all seem to be going to stay with their now team except Tomlin. I haven’t heard nothing solid yet about Tomlin. this mean the Glazers would have to pay a ransom for a trade for one of these coaches. Again I say look at the Gruden deal. we won the super bowl but the team went in the hole because of all the draft picks we gave up including cash would I like the Bucs to win another super bowl? yes do I want them to have 11 losing season after? no

  76. Stu Says:

    Joe,
    Would you please link your story on why Bill Walsh was “blacklisted.”

  77. SOEbuc Says:

    Richard is an intense, great young defensive minded coach. Which is what people are looking for these days. Played under Pete Carroll at USC and became a graduate assistant for Carroll. Has NFL experience. Coached as some type of secondary coach when Seattle had a great secondary for a long time. He did not do well as DC in Seattle from 2015-17 but now he’s in Dallas on the #5 defense. A guy that coached and was coached by Carroll for so long also gives him an upside in my book. They can’t always be big names with big salaries. And there is a very small amount of those coaches available anyway.

  78. SOEbuc Says:

    Tampa Bay Demon

    “I too have had a funny feeling the last few days, for some reason, that the Glazers just might shock everyone and keep Koetter.”

    Thought makes my blood curdle

  79. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    jmarkbuc Says:
    Tomlin is very aware of the dysfunctional Glazers..”

    ————————

    I didn’t even think of that angle, jmark, regarding Mike Tomlin. — He may not be interested with the unceremonious way that his mentor Tony Dungy was let go from here. Maybe that was mended a bit with the Ring of Honor. But hell yes man, I would LOVE to have Mike Tomlin here.

  80. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    SOEbuc Says
    “Thought makes my blood curdle”

    ——————

    LOL!! Sorry man, I didn’t mean to do that to ya on a Friday.
    ALL WILL BE WELL!

  81. AlteredEgo Says:

    I just heard Dirk on 620..he tipped his hand and let on he’ll be back next year…

  82. Mikiebucsfan76 Says:

    I would rather see a re-tread like Mike Murlarky come Coach the Bucs rather than Koetter LOL and they need to fire the strength and conditioning coach. Jameis is about the only full time player that’s not been out do to injury

  83. StoutGospel Says:

    @jmarkbuc has it….

    On this FAR TOO OFTEN mentioned Kris Richard person. He’s just a dude that’s an assistant/secondary/not nothing/NEVER BEEN Head Coach….kicked out the door by the Seahawks….K?? K!!

    Turn our attention and massive loot elsewhere :)))

    JOHN Harbaugh.

    Go Bucs!! Here’s to a Bucs resurgence!!

  84. Ed Says:

    Doubtful story. Does anyone really, really think that Koetter got the most out of this roster? How many games did it look on the TV set that the defensive guys had quit and weren’t even trying to make tackles. How many new plays were added to the offense? Where were the draws and screens and slants when the opposing defenses were sending the house on passing downs. Predictable plays, predictable defenses, basic vanilla game plans. If this is a coach to retain I would hate to think what owner expectations.

    I don’t think its important that the Bucs make a “splash” move for a new coach and a new GM, just hire someone that can organize and run a program, someone that has a modern scheme, someone that is young and energetic, someone that is a motivator and a leader. The team needs to get into the fundamentals and learn to get more physical and play bigger. Too much pussyfooting around this year, too much laziness, too much disorganization.

  85. Alaskan Abdominal Snowman Says:

    StoutGospel- that is exactly what I was going to type until I did a little research into Richard. I was sick of people talking about him and I would think he is a nobody but after looking into it his knowledge and passion is undeniable.
    Do a little work and look him up and see if you still feel the same way, instead of just repeating others’ opinion.
    Altered- I hope you are wrong but what did he say?

  86. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    Well, Alaskan, he did say “we” alot when talking about next year. Also, when asked what his fave moment of the year was, he said he hoped that would be at 4pm on Sunday.

    I don’t know, hard to say. He mostly sounds kinda resigned to a bad faye, but he offers these little nuggets of hope in there.

  87. Jmarkbuc Says:

    Snowman

    Not sure if I should be offended…but I took your advice and did a little digging.

    Basically what I come up with is, people in Dallas like him. Fiery, passionate.

    That being said, some say Dallas will bump Marinelli up to Asst Head Coach in order to keep him as a DC, if Marinelli doesn’t outright retire.

    All THAT being said, Josh McDaniels was/is a great OC. His tenure as Denvers HC left a lot to be desired.

    So just because he’s well liked in Dallas and is doing a good job running Marinelli’s scheme (with Marinelli to guide him, every step of the way) does not necessarily mean he can run an entire team.

    Just my opinion.

  88. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    (fate)

  89. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    Jmark, Richard also created the Legion of Boom in Seattle. —

    But I agree with you on McDaniels. No f’ing way.

  90. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    Speaking of Rod Marinelli…. i mean his roots were right here in TB…

    He had a disastrous run in Detroit, but that might have been the worst roster in NFL history…

    Has anyone given any thought to Marinelli?
    I was just curious.

  91. Defense Rules Says:

    Wow, talk about fake news. I can’t believe that ANYONE is seriously thinking that Koetter stays. Is there ANY fan out there who seriously believes that Dirk Koetter can turn this mess around if he stays for another year? ANYONE believe that Dirk can magically develop Jameis into a true franchise QB after what we’ve seen in these past THREE years?

  92. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    No, Defense Rules. As a JW fan, i need him to have someone else here next year.

    I like Dirk alot, but he is not the one.

  93. Mikiebucsfan76 Says:

    We’ve seen many top coordinator turn out to be bust. I just hope the Bucs don’t mortgage the team to get a Jim or John Harbaugh. surely wouldn’t mind seeing either in town but don’t give up 2 1st 2 2nd round picks. no matter how good a coach is, he need good players to succeed

  94. Mike Says:

    The biggest con job in sports if Licht gets to his third coaching staff. Impressive how he has the Glazers ear at this point. What a bad joke!

  95. James Walker Says:

    I see it now. Glazers burn their bridges, don’t get who they want, and hire another Schiano or promote another Ra, while letting a better coach leave. Same mistake, another year.

  96. Dave Says:

    If the Glazers like “splash,” why would they hire guys like Greg Schiano or Raheem Morris?

    Yeah they bit the house and farm on Jon Gruden in 2002. But other than that the Glazers have not demanded “splash.”

  97. firethecannons Says:

    However it turns out for Koetter–we must address the offensive line and the defensive back coaches–we must get upgrades in those areas especially. We are saddled with lazy Donovan Smith and undisciplined Ryan Jensen and incompetent right guard play and over the hill Dotson–really Warhop is not the best we can get. The defensive backs are a spirited bunch of rooks and 2-3rd year players that need coaching up. Dump Grimes now–do not let him play another game–he is burnt toast all season–not one good game–in fact not one decent play. Anyway if Koetter stays he needs to make serious changes–I would like to see him given the boot asap.

  98. firethecannons Says:

    Best scenario–rid ourselves on Licht and Koetter

  99. TampaTown Says:

    Defense Defense Defense. If Koetter stays we need a nasty arse defensive coordinator. If he goes, we need a defensive coach.

  100. adam from ny Says:

    if there is a way to get tomlin in here you gotta do it…that’s probably the hire that counts…john harbaugh is off the table and could make a run at the superbowl…he gotten things rolling again in baltimore…mccarthy is like — nah…

    tomlin is the guy

  101. adam from ny Says:

    watch the glazers trade with oakland and get gruden again…

    now that would be wild af