New Standard Set?
December 1st, 2018
Swift justice?
It seems yesterday a new standard was set for tolerance in the NFL. And America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, just got in under the wire.
Last night, the Chiefs, a team with real aspirations of a Super Bowl run with one of the most exciting offenses the NFL has ever seen, cut loose one of the best running backs in the league. And why exactly would Chiefs owner Clark Hunt and his staff do such a thing to the team and its fans in a potentially historic season?
It is because video surfaced of Kareem Hunt in a physical altercation with a woman.
Clearly, this is disgusting behavior roughing up a woman. Still, with so much at stake for the Chiefs, Joe was stunned the Chiefs cut him. Seems video of the incident, leaked to TMZ.com, set the Chiefs’ actions into gear.
Why is Joe bringing up the Chiefs and Hunt on a Bucs site? Because it reminds Joe of how lucky America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston is.
The Chiefs claimed they cut Hunt yesterday because he lied about the altercation, which allegedly took place last summer in a Cleveland hotel.
Well, also last summer, NFL strongman Roger Goodell sentenced Jameis to a three-game suspension for a hassle with an Uber driver that took place two years ago in Arizona. This incident came to light roughly a year ago in an article first published on Buzzfeed.com.
At the time, Jameis strongly denied anything took place. Goodell, in part, suspended Jameis because Goodell didn’t buy what Jameis and his star witness, the notorious Ronald Darby, were selling.
In short, Jameis lied to his teammates, his coaches, Team Glazer and legions of Bucs fans. It’s part of the reason the Bucs have a less-than-one percent chance at a playoff berth — because Jameis missed the first three weeks of the season and now as we enter December, he may now just be getting over the missed time.
Joe is in no way condoning Hunt conning Chiefs officials. And since there is video of Hunt throwing a woman down to the floor, the SOB ought to do some time in an Ohio county cage.
So now the new standard in the NFL is to be cut from your team for lying, not just suspended? Cut in the middle of a potential Super Bowl run?
Both Jameis and Bucs fans should be thanking their lucky stars this Hunt nonsense happened when it did, or the Bucs would be in full-blown quarterback hunt mode.
December 1st, 2018 at 8:06 am
Sign him. no one except him and people involved the night of the incident know if alcohol or drugs were an influence on his actions. Clearly he didn’t go after her for pure pleasure. Sure his actions aren’t excusable but let’s get everyones side of the story. Jameis would be the perfect person to lead this young man on a straight path. Many people are going to make fun of my comments but who better to set an example and lead than someone who’s been there done that. Plus a year from now no one will remember and the Bucs will have a legit RB. Look at Cincinnati drafting Joe Mixon.
December 1st, 2018 at 8:06 am
The Redskins will sign him…
December 1st, 2018 at 8:10 am
You’re missing the fact that RB’s don’t really matter anymore.
See PIT
See KC
They don’t matter, as difficult as it might be to accept, the numbers suggest it. The NFL is agreeing. RB’s are meaningless. Creative playcalling is the new age. Where does Koetter fit in?
December 1st, 2018 at 8:12 am
Did anyone listen to total access w Koetter on wdae last night? Some guy called in and asked Koetter how long has he sucked a$$!!! I couldnt believe it, I thought radio stations operated on a delay so they can dump things like that. I felt bad for Dirk, it takes some stones to take live calls like that. I have to admit I did chuckle…
December 1st, 2018 at 8:12 am
Joe – In short, Jameis lied to his teammates, his coaches, Team Glazer and legions of Bucs fans.
Joe, Jameis did make public statements denying what he was accused of. 1. Just because he reached deals and settlements do not mean he did what he was accused of. 2. The fact that he made public statements denying what he was accused of does not mean he lied to his teammates, coaches, and the Glazers. We don’t know what he talked to them about in private.
December 1st, 2018 at 8:13 am
That is hilarious. I want Jameis to return but I want him no where near troubled players. That was a joke correct?
December 1st, 2018 at 8:15 am
Bill, both of the teams you mentioned have, or had, a great running back. Conner is tearing it up in LeMeon’s absence.
December 1st, 2018 at 8:15 am
“Agreed, Jameis very fortunate and he better damn realize how lucky he is and there will be no more 2nd chances.
NFL, will lifetime bann JW if he is connected to another incident. Kobe Faker believes JW has learned and will make himself involved in future behavior”
Kobe Faker
December 1st, 2018 at 8:24 am
There is a difference between the Winston and Hunt incidents.
The Winston thing, lacking actual evidence, is still a she-said-he-said with circumstantial evidence.
There is video evidence against hunt.
While Goodell and the Bucs may have *felt* Winston wasn’t totally honest, the Chefs KNOW Hunt lied.
December 1st, 2018 at 8:37 am
AltBuc,
You’re making my point. It’s not the RB, it’s the offense.
December 1st, 2018 at 8:38 am
KC knows this too. That’s why they cut Hunt
December 1st, 2018 at 8:49 am
Jettison JayMiss. Why should he be held to a lower standard?
December 1st, 2018 at 8:50 am
Bill, let’s keep an eye on KC to see how they do without him. It will
December 1st, 2018 at 8:57 am
The two big differences here, video of hunt, and Kansas City runs a class franchise. If the chiefs tank from this point on this season, they won’t really care because they can hold their heads up and say they did the right thing and would do it again. No one player is bigger than the team.
That said, I figure hunt had a new team but Monday, because the NFL lacks any real class as a whole.
December 1st, 2018 at 9:00 am
From what I saw she was the aggressor. She stepped to him 1st and then again several times more!
There’s some crazies out there…..I dated one who would lose her $hit on me swinging the entire time. I callled the police once only to be laughed at basically. I put a stop to it after that. Major double standard IMO
She was in his grill and I bet a lot more we did not see.
December 1st, 2018 at 9:15 am
NPRSageBoy Says:
“Jettison JayMiss. Why should he be held to a lower standard?”
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It is not a lower standard. Jameis has never caused bodily injury to another.
December 1st, 2018 at 9:19 am
Crabman and his boys destroyed the tape.
One of the main reasons I call bs
December 1st, 2018 at 9:21 am
…with so much at stake for the Chiefs, Joe was stunned the Chiefs cut him.
Of course Joe was stunned. Joe appears to have skewed values when moral responsibilities and fiscal incentives are in conflict.
December 1st, 2018 at 9:27 am
It’s a dam shame why any man would put their hands on a woman.
December 1st, 2018 at 9:30 am
El_Buc941 Says:
December 1st, 2018 at 8:06 am
Sign him. no one except him and people involved the night of the incident know if alcohol or drugs were an influence on his actions. Clearly he didn’t go after her for pure pleasure. Sure his actions aren’t excusable but let’s get everyones side of the story. Jameis would be the perfect person to lead this young man on a straight path. Many people are going to make fun of my comments but who better to set an example and lead than someone who’s been there done that. Plus a year from now no one will remember and the Bucs will have a legit RB. Look at Cincinnati drafting Joe Mixon.
JW would lead hunt straight into a sess pool of sexual assault, somehow involving stolen crab legs, and Uber drivers. With the finale featuring the worsts beat down of some poor woman’s life, after she already left her dignity and self respect in shambles in a hotel room.
More like the blind leading the blind.
Maybe JW should speak with Charlie sheen about winning.
They seem to have similar philosophy’s.
December 1st, 2018 at 9:30 am
Good point , Jameis Kinda did the same thing
With the lying.
Man to be born with the athletic gift then to piss it away…o well maybe they be business men and make the same coin….
December 1st, 2018 at 9:31 am
The Bucs are in full QB hunt mode. (Shhh, don’t tell Joe)
December 1st, 2018 at 9:38 am
Yes. Someone will sign Hunt.
She slapped him.
Reportedly called him a N. He blew up. No excuse. Lied. No excuse.
Sign him with a very tight prove you can control yourself contract.
Lagarette Blount was an idiot. Bucs got rid of him. Grew up. Has a couple SB rings.
Aquib Talib was also an idiot. Also cut by Bucs. Grew up.
Also has a couple SB rings.
Have any us of not totally screwed Up? Did we have a chance to make amends?
December 1st, 2018 at 9:39 am
“America’s Running Back, Pro Bowler Kareem Hunt”
December 1st, 2018 at 9:40 am
America’s swaggy visor wearing Groper
December 1st, 2018 at 9:41 am
bucs should sign him for 2019….
December 1st, 2018 at 9:51 am
The Chiefs had the guts to do what the Glazers did not
December 1st, 2018 at 10:02 am
Did you guys even watch the video???
It was just a bunch of mutual pushing and shoving. He lightly tapped her with his foot while she was on the ground, you guys act like he field goal kicked her face.
The girl aggressively confronted him, so you’re saying women can hit men but men can’t hit them back??? Dafuq is this BS, what about gender equality?
Only reason Kareem Hunt is demonized is because he is black and she was white!
F# outta here
December 1st, 2018 at 10:03 am
If there was video of Winston grabbing the driver’s crotch he would have been released too.
December 1st, 2018 at 10:04 am
Bucs should absolutely sign Kareem Hunt and put him on defense. We need some guys who like to hit on defense.
December 1st, 2018 at 10:47 am
Winston played the I don’t remember card like the POS he is…remember who Winston was with that? A convicted rapist and Darby who was a witness at another alleged rape. Great company. But he’s all grown up now. You can’t change the fabric of your soul.
No to Hunt. No to Winston. Do you want RJS to be empty?
December 1st, 2018 at 10:49 am
Dapostman….LOL
December 1st, 2018 at 11:18 am
The woman was the aggressor. She kept coming at them and did assault Hunt first. And she was using the N-word liberally….
Doesn’t make his physical response acceptable – but certainly a bit more understandable
That light little kick to her butt while she was down at the end though is what looks bad on video – even thou I don’t think that “kick” hurt her at all – it shows he had lost control of his actions enough to make the motion – even though there was little to no force behind it…
That little feigned kick is going to cost Hunt quite a bit. Already has considering a Super Bowl contending team cut him immediately over it.
This too shall pass though. Its not really that big a deal from what I saw.
Police saw the video that night, talked to all involved and decided not to arrest anyone.
Why does the league and the court of public opinion get to pass judgement in a harsh way on these players not really knowing the facts – when in this case the very system that is set up to do that, LEOs – investigate evidence, question both sides – and decide that an arrest or charges were not warranted considering all the evidence known to them???
From what I see on the video and the little that has been shown from police interviewing those involved – I’d say the police on scene rightly deducted this incident was more of a “hassle” – than a criminal act on anyone’s part – and seemed to kinda chalk the responsibility of the whole situation up to “beotches be crazy sometimes”…
December 1st, 2018 at 11:27 am
Bucs Fan #7423 Says:
December 1st, 2018 at 10:02 am
Did you guys even watch the video???
I did. The real one. You musta seen the doctored White House version.
December 1st, 2018 at 11:37 am
He musta used my old line
“You wanna fight or f*ck”
December 1st, 2018 at 11:55 am
Too many people here STILL don’t know the difference between accused and convicted. Could it be for them that being white and female Trumps being black and male when truth is the issue? That’s ridiculously funny and also sad.
December 1st, 2018 at 12:08 pm
When considering he’s still on a rookie contract for another 3 years and making less than 1 mil per season. I’d definitely claim him off waivers while I get more information on that situation and his overall history.
December 1st, 2018 at 12:37 pm
sign him our team sucks and fans arent showing up anyways
December 1st, 2018 at 12:40 pm
Ah yes…let’s change our culture by taking losers who feel the need to put their hands on women. IT’S WRONG!!!
My father would come in drunk after cheating on my mother. My mother had a bad temper and would start yelling things at my father…I wanted to join her in the yelling but I was a wimp.
Of course then my father had the EXCUSE to beat the hell out of my mother. If he was black she might have dropped an Nbomb on him eh? It’s ALWAYS a very one sided deal no matter how tough…my mom was very tough. You just can’t give up that
much size and testosterone and think there’s any chance the woman can actually defend herself.
Men who hit women are sissies….it’s a simple as that.
BTW…Legarrette Blount was such as “stud” including sucker punching opponents after a loss that he couldn’t keep a job.
Why do you all keep pointing to the Bucs for cutting him. What about Belichek and Tomlin…why did they cut the POS? Repeatedly. Yeah this is the culture change we need!
December 1st, 2018 at 12:40 pm
Can anyone verify if he was intoxicated?cause he barely touched the chick and only did after she repeatedly assaulted him verbally and physically.i know he should’ve could’ve and would’ve held back but when someone snaps like that there is definitely waaaaay more to the story than we know. To me they have history together and I have a feeling the emotions didn’t start running from the very second they pressed record on the tape. Basically if we don’t claim him someone else will(Patriots) and he will make them a contender and this well all be forgotten next season. Also if we sign him sign him to a prove it deal with strict guidelines and FORCE HIM to complete domestic violence and anger management programs. We shouldn’t be belittling a guy for errors…we should be helping him improve his life and show everyone deserves a second chance.
December 1st, 2018 at 12:43 pm
We don’t need Hunt, especially when he may be suspended by the League or even banned. We need a very fast Big Back who can break tackles and force his own hole and take it to the house; like Cook who Licht let slip through his fingers because he thought he could get a RB in the 5th round, LOL, plus he had to use another pick to move up to the second round to grab a Franchise Kicker. A fiasco and a half.
December 1st, 2018 at 12:49 pm
El Buc
Is that what we are the Second chanceaneers…..
December 1st, 2018 at 12:54 pm
Sign him. After all the Bengals drafted Mixon after he punched a woman in the face & broke her cheek bone & nobody made a big deal out of it. I don’t condone what Hunt did or why but the Chiefs may have jumped the gun. Its not like the Bucs have any great RB’s.
December 1st, 2018 at 12:57 pm
Chiefs claimed Hunt lied and I’m sure the NFL will too. Please stop with the racist nonsense that she was white antagonizing the black guy. Please. I guess I was raised to respect women. Shame on me. Some of you people are sad. Saying that if she comes up to him and touches him, he should be able to hit her back. Ummm, no. Men are built different than women and we should not hit women under any circumstance. She is clearly wrong however and if Hunt had not hit her, she should have been arrested for assault. This is nowhere near as serious as the Ray Rice incident. Actually, if you watch the video the girl was concussed and actually I think the guy was also. I have no problem with Kareem defending himself against the guy that was there but the guy didn’t seem to be aggressive. He actually seems to try to break it up. It was definitely an ugly situation. With all of that said, I’m all about the Bucs signing him to a low risk deal. He’s a top 5 RB that made a mistake he hopefully has learned from. We all make them at 22 years old. Give this man another chance while helping the team.
December 1st, 2018 at 1:00 pm
@Jmark. No, we are actually the opposite. We have cut any men that have had off-field issues such as Michael Bennett and Talib. Both of which have cleaned up their act and been great players. It would be a welcome change for us to give people a second chance.
December 1st, 2018 at 1:21 pm
“Goodell, in part, suspended Jameis because Goodell didn’t buy what Jameis and his star witness, the notorious Ronald Darby, were selling.”
Sorry, Joe. I do not buy that.
Goodell suspended Jameis because he had to for public image.
There is no proof that Jameis lied. In fact, as near as anyone can point out, he did not lie at all. Everything he said was the truth as he remembered it.
And in the end? The NFL was unable to find proof that he did anything other than ride in the car.
December 1st, 2018 at 1:21 pm
And if you disagree, then please…lay out the proof for us. All of it was disputable.
December 1st, 2018 at 1:34 pm
@Bonzai. I disagree. I’m not sure I don’t need to layout proof. Nothing but love for you Bonzai but I think you are way off on this one. The only proof you need is to listen to Jameis apologize. If Jameis did nothing more than ride in an Uber, then WTF is he apologizing for. Bro, he did it. The NFL knows he did it, Jameis knows he did it, Darby knows he did it and so does the Uber girl. I wanted to believe that this was nothing but a golddigging opportunity for her but it happened. I’m one of the biggest Winston supporters and I’m still a Winston supporter but reality is reality.
December 1st, 2018 at 1:34 pm
I’m not sure I need to layout….
December 1st, 2018 at 1:56 pm
Hunt got lucky on that shove that woman could’ve seriously got hurt if she went face first into that wall which almost happened
December 1st, 2018 at 2:12 pm
KC is only big enough for 1 domestic abuser…looks like tyreek hill is the choice
December 1st, 2018 at 2:16 pm
“we should be helping him improve his life and show everyone deserves a second chance”
WTF? why doe “we” need to do any such thing?
Playing in the NFL is a privilege,not a right.
If one of my male employees did this, I’d fire him too…especially if he lied to me about it, then makes me look foolish when the video comes out.
SPBF is right.
December 1st, 2018 at 2:43 pm
“Goodell suspended Jameis because he had to for public image.”
Bonzai
Perhaps slowly but surely you’re beginning to get it. It’s not the pusssy grabbing per se it’s the entire evening that got JW into trouble.
So imagine Bonzai that JW NEVER again touches a woman inappropriately. Heck if you wish assume he never has.
If next off season he is out blackout drunk at 3AM with a convicted rapist and another guy with a bad rep and patrons grab their phones and video all of his behavior. What if it includes racist or homophobic slurs and goes viral. NO touching of women…just boorish, childish, prima donna behavior.
Think that would go well for JW at this point. People have reputations…they EARN them..they’re not just dropped out of the sky. So imagine the player in my drunken scenario is GMC.
Think there might be a different reaction.
Think GMC would have been suspended for Arizona?
It’s time to stop blaming everybody except the MORON who caused all of this and placed his team in jeopardy.
December 1st, 2018 at 2:46 pm
Joe likes the idea jameis is safe …. can’t believe you condone what these guys do to women … physical mental or sexual abuse is all the same joe
December 1st, 2018 at 2:55 pm
Maybe this has something to do with why the Bucs passed on Hunt? Nobody’s going to draft a guy if they interview him and think he’s a creep.
December 1st, 2018 at 4:06 pm
interestingly enough there is a shining light to this sad story…jameis and his whole story is further becoming old news now…which is a good thing…time to move forward, now that it’s all settled in court too…and this kareem hunt situation is now at the forefront of bad nfl news…and of course there will be more shenannies to come from other players wilding out too, as time moves forward
December 1st, 2018 at 4:10 pm
bring Kareem Hunt here JL, JW lied to this organization and we are going to pay him $20milion, since the character is not a problem for Bucs, at least we can use football skills. Bring Hunt, he is a good football player…
December 1st, 2018 at 4:31 pm
What Jameis “allegedly” did was not even in the same ballpark as to what Hunt actually did.
December 1st, 2018 at 6:32 pm
Yeah, that’s why I’m done with Jameis. He’s one bad choice away from being banned. NFL doesn’t mess around with this stuff anymore.
And then to come back and throw a bunch of interceptions, likely costing this coaching staff their jobs.
Time to find a new QB
December 1st, 2018 at 7:09 pm
the main reason Hunt was let go, was LYING to the organization about the event. JW did exactly the same thing, he told the front office: “he did not do it”. The difference between Hunt and JW is only this: for JW was not the FIRST time. He lied before, and he is going to do it again. Yeah, is not the same ballpark…..
December 1st, 2018 at 7:12 pm
Jason Licht, bring Hunt to Tampa. We need good players, forget the character…
December 1st, 2018 at 7:27 pm
Honestly the scuffle was very tame, surprised the chiefs cut him. I would sign the dude.
December 1st, 2018 at 9:36 pm
yes… the Chiefs are such a classy organization… Thats why they drafted Tyreek Hill. the only difference is the optics.. and perceived value of player.
December 1st, 2018 at 10:14 pm
For what it worth… He didn’t push her down purposely… he ran out the room & into his friend and the force from that knocked his friend and the girls down
December 1st, 2018 at 10:49 pm
I’m pretty sure that Hunt was put on the exempt list, which means no one can sign him. At least that’s what I read earlier today.
December 2nd, 2018 at 2:02 am
Not sure why you think he lied. I’ve been drunk enough before not to remember things. And that doesn’t even mean he did anything.
December 2nd, 2018 at 7:05 am
cmurda Says:
December 1st, 2018 at 12:57 pm
Saying that if she comes up to him and touches him, he should be able to hit her back. Ummm, no. Men are built different than women and we should not hit women under any circumstance.
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Stpetersburgfan says:
Any men who hit women are sissies
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Well you beta males get slapped up by women because they don’t respect you.
December 2nd, 2018 at 9:44 am
the only thing worse than “being in full-blown quarterback hunt mode.” is thinking that your team has a franchise QB when in “reality” they don’t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 2nd, 2018 at 11:35 am
7423
That’s a strange take you’ve got on things…
Maybe the women in your trailer park like to get slapped around a little, but in general..not so much.