Ryan Fitzpatrick Will Start Against The Giants

November 12th, 2018

UPDATED 2:45 p.m. – Joe is in stunned disbelief.

Despite a four-game losing streak and playing poorly, Ryan Fitzpatrick is your starting quarterback on Sunday against the Giants.

“I just think he still gives us the best opportunity right now,” Koetter said this afternoon at One Buc Palace.

What a mess. Shame on Koetter and shame on Team Glazer.

Jameis Winston is healthy and ready to play for a 3-6 team. Joe would understand if the Bucs deactivated Jameis (not agree) because they don’t want to risk him getting seriously injured, which would force the team to pay him $21 million next year. But to keep Jameis active as the gameday backup and to force journeyman Fitzpatrick down the throats of Bucs fans is a waste.

Koetter and Team Glazer are playing scared. Playing Jameis is the correct play. The Bucs are making the wrong call.

228 Responses to “Ryan Fitzpatrick Will Start Against The Giants”

  1. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    ALL ABOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. adam from ny Says:

    shameis is done as per dirkenfuss

  3. adam from ny Says:

    fitzenfuss as per dirkenfuss

  4. Fartman Says:

    that probably means they don’t want him to get hurt so, they stay off the hook for that 21 mil… they should just cut him now.

  5. cmurda Says:

    Fire Dirk, Fire Licht. Glazers fire yourselves and sell this team. Please, anything. I need some explosions and whatnot just to feel better.

  6. Robert Says:

    yeah baby!!!!!

    why risky 20 mill on a fake back injury.

    they CLEARLY do NOT trust jameis THE CRABMAN!!

  7. Hamsadwichtime Says:

    Dirk should be fired for that dumb ass decision alone

  8. BucThis Says:

    Perhaps the Glazers don’t trust Dirk with Jameis. I wouldn’t…

  9. Mike in MO Says:

    Sorry Joe. Find another mancrush.

  10. Fartman Says:

    Would jameis lie to them about injury… has he ever lied to them before… oh yeah.

  11. Robert Says:

    after a certain amount of lies, people don’t believe you..

    no matter what

    case in point ladies!

  12. Calbucsfan Says:

    Looks like the only way JW gets back in on game day is if Fitz gets hurt, otherwise his Buccaneer career is likely over. So much for America’s QB, Joes.

  13. Orlampa Turd Says:

    I guess that means a complete housecleaning – Jason, Dirk, & now Jameis too

  14. JabooBuc Says:

    I’d youre a dead man walking then why put up with what is the headache known as Jameis Winston?

    By the way, they dominated the Skins yesterday but the players screwed it up (and I’m including Fitz). It was not poor coaching.

  15. DBS' Says:

    Millions mean more than hundreds would mean to Joe’s pocket or Winston is DONE.

  16. Greg Says:

    It’s not Jameis, it’s Dirks offense! Put Jameis in a scheme that plays to his strength and he will thrive, but most of you haters don’t want to admit that!

  17. HeavyE Says:

    Yes,3-13 here we come!!!!

  18. Rojas Says:

    Lmfao. FitzTragic..

  19. Rojas Says:

    Top 5 pick here we come.

  20. HeavyE Says:

    Yes,3-13 here we come!!!! Saving Jameis for next year! Great Job Glazers!!!

  21. ndog Says:

    And this folks is why this team is always ALWAYS horrible. Decisions just like this. First this clown before his press conference ends, what a joke this entire organization is. I have zero desire to watch that game next Sunday, ZERO!!!

  22. Mike in MO Says:

    A top 5 pick will be worthless if Licht is making the pick.

  23. Evolvingbucsfan Says:

    Just shows they have given up on Jameis, what a shame.

    The Bucs can spend over 54 million on an under performing D-line, why would they care about 21 million?

    This team will be unwatchable from here on out, as if it hasn’t been already, they keep finding a way to get worse.

  24. JabooBuc Says:

    Something to think about…we are in every game but one (Chicago) and have a turnover margin of -19. This team should be leading this division

  25. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Perhaps there is a lesson here for future star athletes.

    When you have a HORRIBLE reputation for off field crap done while you were in college…when a professional team chokes hard and eats that rep…the last thing you want to do is go out drinking the very first off season at 3AM blind drunk with Ronald “Trouble” Darby and a convicted rapist…as the coach once said…nothing good happens in clubs after midnight.

    One year after skating on a very shaky rep…it’s just brain dead.
    But I know…Fameis couldn’t help himself.

  26. NewTampaChris Says:

    Best chance…for a better draft pick.

  27. OneBucPerson Says:

    I imagine if Fitz stinks it up against a very bad Giants team that they’ll go with Jameis the rest of the way, and if not then congrats Ryan Griffin cause you’re gonna get your first starting experience.

  28. Mickman Says:

    I believe this has more to do with Fitzpatrick has a lot of experience at Giants stadium. I guess Dirk thinks 500 average will keep his job.

  29. Pickgrin Says:

    That’s IT!

    I was on the fence about supporting Koetter for the rest of this year even though he will almost surely be fired when its all said and done.

    But this decision is just STUPID!

    Winston is the most talented QB on this team – and Winston gives this team the best chance to win on Sundays.

    Yes he generally struggled coming back from suspension – and Yes the Bengals game was a debacle for Jameis and probably his worst game as a pro – but any other conclusion than “starting Jameis NOW is what’s best for this team” is just sheer stupidity.

    You are literally writing your own head coaching obituary with this decision coach K!

  30. HeavyE Says:

    How can you trust a Dumb A$$, when he doesn’t know how many timeouts he has left in the game! The Glazers are not going to trust Him with the Best QB that we have had in a long time. Bunch of Fools if You think any thing different! Clown fan base……let’s go #14, loss some more games!

  31. Mike in MO Says:

    What difference does a higher draft pick make when you have Licht wiffing on the picks?

  32. Larry Says:

    Make Americas backup QB Great Again!!

  33. Lord Cornelius Says:

    God help us all

  34. Not there yet Says:

    that Ian rapport story about Winston and dirk now seems believable. The obvious scenarios are:

    Dirk is finished and wants nothing more to do with Winston
    Dirk is keeping his job and glazers moving from Winston or both are gone so it doesn’t matter

    It’s not about 20 mil because if it was Winston would be inactive. Apparently they are giving dirk more time to win games. Who confuses me is who they hell cares if you win against the giants? Guess you don’t actually have to beat quality teams to be considered a good coach for the glazers! Don’t care if your moving on from Winston but make it known and deactivate the guy. Don’t move from Winston because of sorry arse first time head coach who has no clue how to run a team. Glazers apparently aren’t embarrassed enough yet.

  35. Cobraboy Says:

    I suspect this is not Koetter’s decision.

    The team is moving on from America’s Turnover Machine.

    I want to see what Griffin has.

  36. Sarasotabuc Says:

    Has anyone watched a damn game in the last 3 yrs? We know what Fitz is he has proven it over and over. So has Jameis. We don’t need to see more of #3 he sucks!!! I’m not saying 14 is the answer any sane adult knows this, but it is damn sure not Jameis. Save your 20 million for a future prospect and accept the loss

  37. Mike in MO Says:

    The only thing the Glazers care about is how much interest their money is earning.

  38. NPRSageBoy Says:

    Bye, Bye to America’s Turnover Machine, JayMiss Winnone. Don’t let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you.

  39. Brandon Bob Says:

    Looks like my Sundays just opened up.

    F the bucs, losers in every sense. Wake me up in a few years if the nightmare ever ends.

    Time to forget I ever moved to Florida30 years ago and start supporting my OLD hometown team again. GO Pack!!

  40. tbbucs3 Says:

    Dumpster Fire

    “Simple as that”

  41. ben Says:

    Joe,pls get over your man crush with Winston. You got it bad !!…bucs can do better…..

  42. adam from ny Says:

    these dirt pressers are becoming wildly sad…how many more of these pressers can you sit thru???

  43. PSLBob Says:

    Cobraboy, couldn’t agree more. Why the hell are we keeping 3 QBs on the roster if we’re not going to use one of them. If Jameis is toast for next season, we need to see if Griffin truly is a NFL-caliber backup QB. God, this really pisses me off. If I didn’t love Tampa and the Bucs so much, I couldn’t even keep reading the sad news coming out of the organization.

  44. Pete Says:

    Because watching Fitz throw multi-interceptions a game for over a decade isn’t enough.

    What an embarrassment. Looks like I have next Sunday free to do other things. When the Bucs get serious about winning, I’ll get serious about supporting them again.

  45. adam from ny Says:

    there is no win left in dirk’s voice…or body language…maybe koetter is going to quit and take catanzaro with him?…


  46. A’train4047 Says:

    Team glazer has no sack

  47. adam from ny Says:

    typo above lol ^^^^^

    dirk not dirt…


    no pun intended

  48. theodore Says:

    World of Tanks!

  49. SteelStudBuc Says:

    News flash! Fitzpatrick is better than Jameis.

  50. Dewey Selmon Says:

    If they are done with Winston then why is he the backup? Maybe he will be inactive this week.

  51. AncientBuc Says:

    Jameis will be better for not playing under Dirk unless injury to Fitz. Further proof that Dirk is done. He’s being allowed to go out in his own way.

  52. BlogTalkFootball Says:

    Poor execution is a side effect of poor coaching.

    Loafing is a side effect of poor coaching.

    Dividing a lockerroom is a direct result of poor coaching.

    Our lockerroom is divided and all the Bit-O-Honey wrappers on the floor tells the story!

  53. Jason Says:

    This organization is beyond pathetic. Giving up after 9 games? I hate rich people like the Glazers because they don’t do anything but ride their daddy’s money. Go sake on your yacht and leave us all alone.

  54. Im tired and 87 is right Says:

    Yup and playing Fitzpatrick is the answer when the season is already lost. Why would we not see what we have in Jameis? Maybe they just want to lose. Look I want to see Jameis play he is the only person on that team that makes the Bucs fun to watch. I’m a season ticket holder and I can tell you if he is gone next season then I won’t be around. Be careful what you dumb Bucs fans ask for because the more diehards like myself who quit going to games you may not be seeing the Bucs in Tampa anymore. I’m so sick of arguing with you folks on here. Probably most of you never even played the game and just expect madden like stats from the QB position.

  55. Hawk Says:

    I posted this under an earlier article, and hoped it would be prophetic.
    “Fitz did not play well enough to start again, and yet he didn’t play bad enough to be benched (four ints in a game seems to be Koetters threshold). That being said, Koetter needs to start Winston the rest of the season. By not signing Winston (or even negotiating) to a new contract, *AND* not even picking up his fifth year (like they’ve done with others), the organization is saying that they are not (yet) convinced that he will be a Buccaneer in the future. Koetter needs to give Winston every opportunity to show them that he is/isn’t without a doubt.”
    Unless something changes between now and Sunday, it appears as though the organization has made a decision on Winston.

  56. Cobraboy Says:

    @AncientBuc: if Winston is deactivated, then every team knows his Buc tenure is over and there would be *zero* probability Winston has any trade value.

    As long as there is some doubt of his future, he has some value and the Bucs might be able to get something in return. But it would be one of those “if we can do a long-term deal, then we’d trade for him” dealios…

    Besides: maybe the Glazers know something we don’t.

  57. Cobraboy Says:

    @ Hawk: the Bucs already picked up his 5th-year option. But they can cut or trade him.

  58. Buc-n-Idaho Says:

    You idiots saying that Joe has a man-crush on Winston are total dumb-asses!!!

    He is the ONLY sensible choice!!!

    Koetter must go!!!

    And I wish he could take most of you idiot posters with him!!!

  59. Bobby M. Says:

    Koetter has been given some type of ultimatum to keep his job and he’s simply going to do things his way if he’s going down. Glazers wont step in….they never do during the season. They’ll start lining up candidates behind the scenes…but they don’t mingle in the management of the team during the season.

    Next coach/GM will decide what they want to do with Winston. They’ll also bear the consequences/results of doing so. Bucs wont give an ultimatum anyone must keep him….I don’t think they find him an asset at this time…..This season was a crap shoot from the beginning when Winston got himself suspended….He comes back and turns the ball over almost once per quarter, he’s not running the plays that are called….Koetter doesn’t trust him and I doubt the Glazers are in love with Winston…Particularly when they see Mariota playing effectively and without all the headache.

  60. Cgmaster27 Says:

    The fact that some of you a rooting for a 35 year old journeyman turnover machine is exactly why the glazers do what they do. They know theres bucs fans dumb enough to support this crap. But dont worry, after his next 3 turnover game, people like robert will still be talking about how ” good” fitz played. This team is a complete joke.

  61. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    His refusal to go back to Winston is going to cost him his job. Bummer.

  62. Pete I Says:


  63. T REX Says:


    Suck it Winston fans. Get the hell outta town. I’ll pay for your Uber. Losers.

  64. Phil Says:

    Koetter sealed his fate yesterday when he thought it was a good idea for him to start calling plays again and we scored 3 points. Koetter is now a complete moron starting Fitzpatrick over Jameis. What an idiot. Can’t get him out of here soon enough.

  65. Cgmaster27 Says:

    Who know maybe Dirk likes his QBs running for a first down, getting Clorox, and then running backwards.

  66. DB55 Says:

    Great news! I. Positive my boys in NYC will be happy to finally get a win.

  67. Tom Edrington Says:

    Love when the Joe(s) are “stunned”…..they should know better by now!

  68. Nano Says:

    Joe is stunned
    Ok no one else is
    Jameis lost the team simple as that
    We are done so we move on
    Gm gone coach gone too and with them Jameis
    Bye all

  69. Rob Says:

    They’re done with Jameis, they just don’t want to say it publicly.

  70. Kalind Says:

    Rofl…I’m so done with these morons. It’s not even fair weather fandom. Just…just call me when you’re a respectable organization. Even if you’re still losing. But this? This is just garbage.

  71. NO FEAR... Says:


  72. Leon Says:

    This is unreal should have been benched already and now is starting again.. get rid of Dirk already this is a travesty!

  73. Alaskan Abdominal Snowman Says:

    What the hell are we doing? Are the Glazers just gonna watch this thing burn and roast marshmallows over their fiery fan base?
    Dooo something!!!
    You are supposed to be leaders and you idiots are letting a dead man walking bury your first overall pick in his train wreckage.
    Hopefully we can develop a quarterback in the next 10 years while Jameis wins championships for JAX or NE.
    The trolls will just change their names on here and moan about letting Jameis go in 5 years.
    Joke team, joke fans.
    Go YUCS!!

  74. SOEbuc Says:

    Put in Ryan Griffen to become our Tom Brady/Aaron Rogers and I’ll go break Jameis’ leg with a baseball bat to get out of the 5th year. Easy peezy, Japaneezy.

  75. 813bucboi Says:

    dirk is in the coffin as we speak….
    not plying winston has made the glazers close it…..
    an “L” from the giants would put a nail in it……

    something is fishy….i mean red tide fishy…..i mean, @realist with his skirt blown up fishy……


  76. AtlBuc Says:

    You guys don’t get it. The Glazers have ordered them to leave Jameis on the bench. With Fitz playing, we are in line for a top 3 draft pick. If James plays, we will end up with a few useless wins and out of the playoff picture again. A hurt Jameis won’t attract the next coach either.

  77. Anonymous Says:

    And light? Is he married to a Glazer? He can’t draft or sign a free agent that actually plays.

  78. Loyaltotheend Says:

    I’d say top 5 pick here we come but this team will win 2 or 3 games and mess up the draft

  79. Dre Says:

    Joe what are you proving by playing him with 7 games left and risking paying him 20 million if he gets hurt? Seriously … first he sucks let’s face it … he can’t win and he turns the ball over … what are we proving by putting him out there? Please answer!

  80. adam from ny Says:

    if they play jameis sunday and he plays like crap against the giants, then the bucs can’t trade him to the qb needy giants…so he will sit and not hurt his trade value before giving him to the giants

  81. GhostofSchiano Says:

    How does one lose to the awful 1-7 Giants?

    Find out Sunday as the Klueless koetter clown show begins at 1pm.

  82. 813bucboi Says:

    i think the decision has been taken out of dirks hands….the decision came from the top…..

    IMO, i think the glazers want to tank so the new GM and HC can have a very talented and healthy young QB, a top 5 pick and some cap space to play with once we release a boat load of players like djax, GMC, LVD, gholston, grimes, dotson and many more….

    thats the only way this makes sense…..this has to be a selling point to a coaching and GM candidate…..


  83. tgregs Says:

    Force down the fans throat? Are you hallucinating Joe,? Most fans want the Thug gone.

    I think we can all agree Winston is a far cry fro a $21 million QB so why take a chance.

  84. GhostofSchiano Says:


    You’ve been banging the drum for kris Richards and he showed some toughness last night not backing down from the eagles player.
    He has a good background too, you maybe right about him as a replacement for koetter

  85. AtlBuc Says:

    @Bobby M.
    I think the Glazers know that the coaching staff is not getting the best out of the players, including Winston. I think they see that when free agents come to Tampa, they underperform and when they leave and get coached up they do a lot better. Our rookies don’t progress much unless they are naturally talented like Howard and Godwin. If they have to be coached up, like Vea they languish in mediocrity. It might even wearing off on JPP

  86. Trench War Says:

    If Jameis really is gone, then who would he have to blame?
    The organization? ..or Jameis?

  87. Ben the Ga Buc Says:

    813bucboi Says:
    November 12th, 2018 at 3:38 pm
    i think the decision has been taken out of dirks hands….the decision came from the top…..
    Disagree. This is a coaching decision and it’s the wrong one. Koetter will pay for this with his job. I believe Winston remains a Buc in 2019. I think Glazers will be interested to see if Winston will develop under a new coach.

  88. jerseybuc Says:

    So we should bench Fitz for throwing 2 INT’s and replace him with 3 who last played and threw 4? Come on, how much more of Winston do you people need to see?
    Time to move on from Jameis.

    Fitz has a better winning percentage for Bucs than Winston has anyway and gives us best chance to win. We have two winnable games ahead. Fitz played poorly, but so did our HC, kicker, center, D line, star receiver, etc….etc…

    Anyone calling for team to lose games on purpose has never played competitive sports. Anyone on the field will be playing as hard as they can, you play to win the game.

  89. Rflmwinstonoff Says:

    They are gaining back a uge Chunk of the fan base that will not pay to see Winston

    I’ watched when Fitz is in and missed my bucs.

    So long no crabman, welcome back bucs!

  90. K_Bassuka Says:

    Damn SOB, I’m done with this team until Koetter it’s gone.

  91. Ben the Ga Buc Says:

    Don’t ever forget: Any relevance the Bucs have right now in the sports world is because of JAMEIS. The Bucs will always be talked about as long as Jameis is here. That’s huge for the owners of the franchise, and it would be an INCREDIBLE story if someone was able to turn him around and take TB to the playoffs.

    Plus, I’m sure the owners are aware of how many FAs have gone on to be successful elsewhere, and the ultimate slap in the face would be if that happened for Jameis outside of Tampa.

  92. Sumo Says:

    I really hope they move on from Winston. We messed around with him too long. His issues cannot be fixed and they understand that. There’s no way the glazers pay him 20 million. He totally screwed up this season by messing around and getting clocked 3 games at the beginning of the year. That’s not anybody else’s fault but his. He ruined our season and we tried to save it with Fitzpatrick. It all backfired and now we have nothing. I really wish Winston would go somewhere else.

  93. Pryda Says:

    Coach is gone can’t wait to see the next guy to come in and fix Jaboo

  94. Dre Says:

    Tgreg really jameis is bad but to call the man a thug is too far … as we say code word for the n word is thug … society I swear

  95. Hawk Says:

    Thanks, Cobraboy. I don’t know how I missed that. I guess that gives the team the option to trade him.

  96. Grt1 Says:

    If the Glazers were done with Jameis they would’ve traded him for anything they could get. If no trade partners were their then all they have to do is DEACTIVATE HIM FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON!!!! You idiots!!! Jameis will be here long after Dork is gone . Dork said it himself. Holy smokes you guys are passed clueless.

  97. BucsFan33 Says:

    What a joke… why is Fitz-Tragic playing? I thought turnovers lead to benching…Oh what, only if you’re name is Jameis.

  98. LakeLand Says:

    Dirk Koetter made a decision

    Now you Bucs fan has to live with it

  99. TheNorm Says:

    Lmao listen to all the Winston nut huggers lmao
    Hahahahahahaha suck it cry babies

  100. Mike C Says:

    dont shoot the messenger, but i think they are waiting for loss 7 or 8 so they are mathamatically eliminated or as close as they can be without being so.

    then they can start jameis… there prolly guys and coaches in that locker room still tryna hold out hope fitzmagic can get them on a run to 5-6 till the Carolina game… but let them lose one or both of these winnable games upcoming or lose to carolina to put them at 5-7 at best.. then it’s time to put Jameis in..

    i disagree with the decision, but can understand the logic.

  101. LakeLand Says:

    I really don’t believe they are going back to Jameis Winston

    Ryan Griffin is probably the next man up

  102. AtlBuc Says:

    Lakeland, its good either way. Jameis isn’t going anywhere. I think the Glazers will keep him around and let the next coach decide.

  103. Kevin Says:

    I’m wondering if there’s been another off field incident with Jameis that hasn’t come to light yet …that would make sense.

  104. meh Says:

    Shame on anyone that wants Winston to play another snap for this team.

  105. Lamarcus Says:

    I want JW playing every game

  106. DBS' Says:

    The liars that say they are done will be back. Most of them come back under a different name . But a couple have come back using the same name.

  107. TheNorm Says:

    I told you morons Winston’s days were numbered. Lol

    Hahahaha they both suck.

    Tank the season get the best draft pick for the next regime. But knowing this organization they will win a few more games and lose out on a great player in the draft to wind up with another worthless Vita Vea type.

  108. TheNorm Says:


    You can want in one hand and sh it in the other and see which fills up faster

    Lmao your boy is done!

  109. LakeLand Says:


    They haven’t fired Dirk Koetter yet

    There’s no guarantee he will get fired

  110. DaPostman Says:

    I’ve been beating this drum for a few weeks. Winston is getting the tough love treatment. They are treating him like a rook who isn’t ready. Once this team is done from any playoff chances they will insert Winston in to see if he’s learned anything like throwing the ball away. This season is already toast and sitting Winston is a move towards the future.

  111. Jonathan Lipnicki Says:

    This has become a real pisser. Not sure fans realize just how difficult it is to find even a servicable QB in the NFL these days. Watch Winston go to New England, Denver or the Saints and be good in the next few years. Winston has made a mess of things but quitting on him now seems too early to me.

  112. Rod Munch Says:

    Why is Dirk still here? Get rid of this bum.

  113. Rod Munch Says:

    Fitz last 4 games: 0-4
    Winston’s last 4 games: 2-2

    This isn’t about winning, it’s about a emo cupcake who is mad the Glazers made him fire his buddy Mike Smith and do he wants to burn down the place on his way out the door.

  114. go for the face30 Says:

    Good, now maybe all these delusional FSU fans can go away

  115. Dave Says:

    Koetter didn’t want him drafted this is his way of screwing him on the way out. But hey Doug Martin gave us the best chance to win for 2 years

  116. Wausa Says:

    Fire Koetter.

    Worst head coach in the NFL and it is not even close.

  117. The_Rockstar Says:

    Bucs will win against the Giant. But that may be the last win of the season.

  118. Bucky23 Says:

    Anyone going to mention Dirk throwing the challenge flag with no timeouts? 2nd challenge mistake with the other being the Browns. Sorry, but I usually want my HC to know the rules. Not that much to ask for I don’t think.

  119. skipper Says:

    Bad move, need to have Winston back on the field ASAP. I just lost what little respect I had for Dirk and Jason.

  120. First Down Tampa Bay Says:

    I’ve stood with Koetter every step of the way since he’s been hired… but this? Cmon man.

    The season is already lost, so WHY NOT play Jameis? Heck, at the very least, maybe Jameis shows out these next 7 games and saves your job. With Fitz? No chance. I cant think of a reason to start Fitzpatrick right now. None.

    Looks like we’ve seen the last of Coach Dirk Koetter…

  121. WalkdaPlank Says:

    I’m not a Jameis guy at all, but I am surprised at this. This season is lost, we might win the Giants game and maybe the other Falcons game but that’s all I can see for the Bucs.

    This has to be a decision from above Koetter. Why not play Jameis to increase his trade value or perhaps, although highly unlikely, redeem himself?

    I also think Fitz gives us the best chance to win but he is not the answer for this teams future and we all know the Bucs aren’t making the playoffs.

    Koetter is also going to be out of a job barring a historic comeback which is also highly unlikely.

  122. jerseybuc Says:

    There is no conspiracy here. We have a coach who is desperate to win, with two winnable games upcoming. His back is against the wall, and he is going with the QB who he thinks gives him the best chance to win.

  123. ndog Says:

    jerseybuc Says:

    November 12th, 2018 at 3:44 pm

    So we should bench Fitz for throwing 2 INT’s and replace him with 3 who last played and threw 4? Come on, how much more of Winston do you people need to see?
    Time to move on from Jameis.

    Fitz has a better winning percentage for Bucs than Winston has anyway and gives us best chance to win. We have two winnable games ahead. Fitz played poorly, but so did our HC, kicker, center, D line, star receiver, etc….etc…

    Anyone calling for team to lose games on purpose has never played competitive sports. Anyone on the field will be playing as hard as they can, you play to win the game.

    In case you weren’t watching Fitz last four starts:

    Pittsburgh = Loss
    Chicago = Loss
    Carolina = Loss
    Washington = Loss

    Our last win came with someone else starting at QB. Who could that be?????

  124. LakeLand Says:

    I thought the fans were ‘very confident’ in Dirk Koetter

  125. WalkdaPlank Says:

    Rod Munch

    If it was really that colossal of a blunder decision then the Glazer boys would’ve stepped in. That’s why I think this also comes down from them. But who knows. Either way I think we’ve seen the last of your golden child in a Bucs uniform after this season.

  126. Mike Johnson Says:

    LMAO. Joe says, The Bucs are making the wrong call here.
    Haven’t we always?
    BUCLIFE baby!!!!!

  127. LakeLand Says:

    If FitzTragic gives you the ‘Best’ chance to win

    You must be the WORST team in the NFL

  128. bucfan999 Says:

    The Glazer Boys need to step up and take the team over again from Jason Licht. They need to go to Koetter and tell him to 1. let Monken call the plays for the rest of the season and 2. Start Jameis the rest of the year so they can make an informed decision whether or not to keep Jameis or move on next year. The season is lost and starting Fitzpatrick makes no sense at all moving forward into next season. If Koetter refuses then tell him thank you for your services but you are relieved and make Monken the interim HC giving him a audition and interview for next season.

  129. HeavyE Says:

    Let #14 keep playing and losing, that’s what this fan base needs, and deserves!! Will always be LOSERS!!!! Lol…when was the last time 14, won a game??? You bunch of Idiots!!! Lol!!!!

  130. stpetebucsfan Says:


    Not sure teams are waiting to negotiate a long term contract for Jameis before they even have him on their roster.

    Somebody posted that the only reason other teams are talking about us is Jameis..that’s not talk it’s loud laughter. My son the Browns fan has laughed about Jameis from the beginning.

    There is certainly a hard core of JW fans still here on the blog and around town…but nationally JW doesn’t make a ripple. Have you all never wondered why a guy with charisma and the award winning smile can’t get any commercials.

    From what I’ve seen, and read, JW is not all that popular outside of Florida and Alabama.

    That’s not a comment on his ability or future…just an honest observation about his current rep nationally.

  131. Silent_Partner Says:

    You owners are dummies, but this isn’t on them. This is who Koetter has always wanted to play. Buc fans open your eyes and see that Koetter has hated Winston since they drafted him when he was OC. He even said it on the record a couple of times that he wanted Mariota because he’s buddies with the Chicago OC that used to be at Oregon. You can blame them for elevating him to HC though because this is the antagonistic baby you’ve had in charge of developing your QB the last four years. Best thing for Winston is that he doesn’t have to run Dirk’s sorry offense, which has always had problems in scoring points despite moving up and down the field between the 20s going back to Jacksonville (look it up).

  132. Concerned fan Says:

    We are a joke! It’s embarrassing to say the least. My loyalty runs deep with this team. I put myself through this pain every year. And what makes matters worst, the Glazers will be picking the new regime again. It’s a Bucs life!

  133. BucHead5588 Says:

    I don’t want Jameis taking another snap with Dirk being the coach he’s a Joke support MYQB#3

  134. T REX Says:

    We’ve seen Winston for 48 games…HE SUCKS!!!!

    We know what we have…you dumbasses just don’t want to believe it. He gone!

    Any idiot that thinks he now needs a THIRD head coach is a freaking moron. Jump off the skyway, please.

    Jimbo wanted him gone too. Winston’s act is tired and the lockerroom obviously does not believe in him. I doubt he eats anymore W’s.

  135. Buc believer Says:

    I’m done giving a spit

  136. Silent_Partner Says:

    Btw, you answered your own question on whose decision this is alone. If the owners were involved, Winston would be deactivated and would have been since he came back from suspension and definitely after he got benched. They’re letting this dummy hang himself. Maybe now some of you clowns see how clueless Koetter has been from day one (just like he was at Arizona State like I told you). Who takes a job with a promising young QB and tries to sabotage him at every turn. Oh right, your dumb franchise has been through this before and not even that long ago, lol.

  137. Bucs Fan #7423 Says:

    Jameis should start, our seasons over

  138. ToesOnTheLine!!! Says:

    Crap! I’m going to that game and really wanted to see Jameis play. I’ve seen Fitz with the Bills but have never got to see JW (yeah I know I could travel down to Tampa but keeping it closer to the NY area works better for me). I’m hoping Dirk has a change of heart this Sunday and plays JW (even if the change of heart is from pressure applied at One Buc Place)

  139. donuts Says:

    My NFL gut says Winston has done something to earn extra time on the pine! I do recall the last game he played in Cincy that there was some “miscommunication” and plays were not run that were called by the coach.

    Cmon JBF…..dig for that SCOOP!!

  140. Rod Munch Says:

    Dirk wants to be fired so he can get a paid vacation for the rest of the year, otherwise this makes zero sense – not unless there is something new with Jameis happening behind the scenes that we don’t know about.

  141. Silent_Partner Says:

    T REX

    As in Fisher? LMAO. Winston is the reason that fool has $75 million dollars guaranteed. He loves Winston and always will. Jimbo’s crybaby butt nearly quit over Winston getting suspended in college.

    But by all means, if you think this dummy developing your #1 pick was a bright idea, boot him. Somebody else will pick him up like Doug Williams, Steve Young, Trent Dilfer, etc. Just will be the latest one.

  142. Knack2Babbyyyy Says:

    Jameis will be the Buccaneers starting QB next season. Ever since Winston returned from his three game suspension, he’s emphasized the fact that he’s had support from the top down, specifically ownership. While we’re witnessing the end of days for Dirk Koetter’s tenure in Tampa, JW will be here for the next decade plus whether you like it or not. Also, those reports about JW feeling like Koetter didn’t have his back while he was playing injured last year, definitely seem to be true when you look at how bad Koetter has handled this entire situation.

  143. Bucsmarley Says:

    Enough is enough. Joe put up a poll and see who your readers want to web for the rest of the season. I’ve been a buc fan for 40+ years so I don’t want to hear it From other posters on this site. It’s time to reset. People act like if we rebuild it’s over. What have we done since our super bowl. 1 winning season and still didn’t make the playoffs. I personally would like to see griffin just to know if we should keep him next year. Fitz is not the answer but At least I feel he plays with heart. Jameis not so much. Winston has tons of talent but does not learn from his mistakes. It’s been 4 years and I know his numbers people say but between character issues, immaturity and no sign of progress it’s time to move on. Let our new GM. (Maybe D Brooks lol) rebuild us for the future

  144. 813bucboi Says:


    im telling you, he’s the next great young HC…..

    the first time i heard of him was during the seahawks SB run…..they were doing a special on the legion of boom on NFL Network and when asked who do they get their swag from they said Kris Richard…..

    earl thomas said richard was the coach who mold him into a great safety and taught him certain tricks and techniques during his first year…..richard sherman said Kris helped him complete his transition from WR to CB…..brandon Browner said he helped with his technique and foot work with him being such a tall CB…..

    then a few years later when byron maxwell went to philly, he was asked what was the biggest difference in philly vs seattle and why he was struggling….he gave a politically correct answer but he basically said he’s missing the coaching from his former DB coach who was still in seattle and that person was Kris Richard……

    now fastward to this season, dallas needed someone who could develop their young DB’s and help out with the defensive scheme and play calling….they turned to Kris who was given a pay raise and more responsibility and he’s producing…..

    he’s moved byron jones back to his natural position CB instead of safety and has the others in the secondary playing at a high level…..

    IMO, he checks all the boxes…..

    he’s played the game at the highest level, coached at a major university that won championships, coached in the nfl and we know exactly who he developed and he is now currently having success calling the defense in dallas…..

    im afraid Dallas might make him HC or the Jets might scoop him up if the bucs dont get their sh!t together……

    i understand why some fans are hesitant of hiring a guy who’s never been an HC but if you surround him with folks who’s had success he’ll be fine…..

    look at mcvay…he has wade phillips to lean on who was a former HC….kyle shannahan has john lynch to lean on who won a SB and was part of a culture turn a round…..doug pederson has jim schwarts a form HC to lean on……

    my wish list is this:

    Jon Robinson’s assistant as GM
    Bruce Arians as President of football operations
    Kris Richard – HC
    todd monken – OC
    todd Bowles – DC

    that way Kris has folks in his corner that has been their and done that…


  145. Bucsmarley Says:

    Also let’s let Monken call plays to Fitz. That seems to work much better lol

  146. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    You people have zero clue. There is absolutely no way the Glazers are ready to throw in the towel on Jameis Winston.

  147. Not Americas QB Says:

    Yep Im there ! I hope we don’t win another game and clean house. I would not let Jameis near the field. It cracks me up to hear people say Let Jameis play so we know what we got. We got 4 years of knowing what Jameis is. Trade McCoy and cut grimes and anybody who is not a WR or TE and start over

  148. LakeLand Says:


    No coach and turn this crap around in Tampa
    This is the WORST franchise in ALL sports

  149. ClodHopper Says:

    Six of one. Half dozen of the other. They’re both has-beens that never was. Can’t go right or wrong with this decision.

  150. LakeLand Says:


    I think a person has to missing a few screws to accept the Bucs HC position

    I don’t think they’re playing with a full deck

  151. DBS' Says:

    HeavyE calling people idiots. You can’t even figure out your own name.Yesterday it was Heavye.Today it’s back to HeavyE. And we are idiots?

  152. Buc68 Says:

    I’m so excited to be done with the Bucs. This organization is terrible, Vita Vea in the first round was remarkably stupid. Three years ago we take an undersized corner with questionable speed in the first round (they double down this year in the 2nd round by doing exactly the same thing MJ Stewart). Kicker in the 2nd round. Don’t get me started at the RB position. I’m looking forward to seeing Jameis with a real franchise. Jameis has gotten to play with an average Defense one time in his career and he went 9-7. Fitz or Winston are not Tampa’s problem. It’s everything else.

  153. Ben the Ga Buc Says:

    LakeLand Says:
    November 12th, 2018 at 5:05 pm

    I think a person has to missing a few screws to accept the Bucs HC position

    I don’t think they’re playing with a full deck

    Why are you here? You’re clearly not a Bucs fan. I really think you’re enjoying this circus too much.

  154. Tony LA Says:

    This is why the Bucs are the Bucs.
    Ridiculous, but not surprising in the least.

    I’ve said it all year…
    Koetter will be the SEVENTH head coach fired in the offseason after Fitz has started.
    That says EVERYTHING you need to know about him.
    Great relief pitcher, horrible starter.

    Meanwhile, the 24 year old will be given up on and become a star elsewhere.

  155. garbs65 Says:

    If they’re not playing JW than how can it not be about the $20 million next season? Releasing him is the only logical explanation next year…but then again, nothing about this franchise is logical.

  156. Rob Says:

    The Glazers agree with me and don’t want to pay your human ATM (America’s turnover machine) 20.9 million. I don’t blame them. Jameis has lots of issues and no one to blame but himself. Deal with it Joe lol! Fire all these bafoons . Go Bucs!

  157. BigMacAttack Says:

    Jameis is fortunate here as the backup because the O line isn’t going to protect him. They never do, because they don’t care. I’m with some of the others on Griffin here. Winning doesn’t matter anymore and they obviously don’t want Jameis. But seriously give Griffin a shot at it. Dumb Dumb Dirka will probably let him play the last game of the season. Idiots

  158. Jaywill Says:

    If they were worried about the 20 mil they wouldn’t dress Winston or let him practice. If he gets hurt even in practice they are on the hook for that money…Fitz is a curse to any starting qb.

  159. wisconsinbucsfan Says:

    “Koetter and Team Glazer are playing scared. Playing Jameis is the correct play. The Bucs are making the wrong call.”

    ummm, no Americas turnover machine is where he belongs… riding the pine.

  160. Eric Says:

    So what will Dirk’s argument be to retain his job?

    After failing to develop the franchise Qb ill play a 37 year old qb next year who has never led a team into the postseason in his life? Or let me draft a guy and we will play a rookie in the NFC South?

    Good luck with that.

    The only good thing is that Jameis wont have to be part of the upcoming beat down at the Giants. I cant remember when we went on the road and beat a New York team. It all started in 1976 when Joe Namath and the jets destroyed our bucs in the game we thought would be our best chance at victory. And, of course rookie Phil Sims beat us in his first pro game in 79 after we started 5-0. Were 1-7 playing the Giants on the road.

    wind will be swirling, cold weather on its way. Gonna be ugly, just like last week.

    Have fun with Fitzmagic Jameis haters. 2-4 is just soooooo good.

    Bye Bye Dirk.

  161. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Got my Head Coaching Candidates list up. I’ll release an updated list later, but just CLICK MY NAME to see my thoughts on who we should get to replace Dirk Koetter.

  162. LakeLand Says:


    No one want to coach this Circus

    The Bucs need a Ringmaster
    Not a Head Coach

  163. Alanbucsfan Says:

    I like the Kris Richard choice for head coach

    Worst franchise in sports? I’d vote for Knicks

  164. Wesley Says:

    The dumb train rolls along.

  165. 813bucboi Says:


    folks said the same thing about the rams…..they got the right coach and wala…


  166. tickrdr Says:

    Any chance that a trade with the Giants is brewing?
    That might explain keeping JW3 out of the line-up against them.


  167. Mike in MO Says:

    Someone ought to check on Joe. He’s been very quiet since the news of starting Fitz this week. I hope he’s okay, and I truly mean that. I’m not being sarcastic.

  168. HeavyE Says:

    @dbs, it just shows, how much of an idiot you are, it’s the same name just the last E wasn’t capitalized, same spelling, go back to your trailer park, You dumb a$$!!!! LMAO!!!!

  169. donuts Says:

    The signs of a NFL house cleaning are all there. No need for Bucs fans to panic.

  170. ClwJB Says:

    whomever doesn’t agree, simply volunteer to ante up on the $21mil

    have to agree with the Glazers, the season is lost obviously, why risk the money when an entire new regime will be here in about 60 days

  171. Erik w/ Clean Athletics Says:

    @ Joes…

    There is no reason to put Jameis in until we are ‘mathematically out of it’, which is NOT the case yet.

    Joes are wrong.

  172. Couch Fan Says:

    How can you be surprised that Dirk has made yet another idiotic decision? Truth be told though it doesnt matter who the QB is. Both QBs and any other QB is destined to lose with this HC.

  173. Erik w/ Clean Athletics Says:

    And then even at that point, I wouldn’t risk the injury and I would deactivate him for the season and start trying to figure out a different plan moving forward.

    Winston sucks at this point in his career.

  174. LakeLand Says:

    You can’t compare this crap to the Rams

    The Rams had corner pieces to build around

    Aaron Donald
    Todd Gurley

    The Yucs don’t have this kind of corner pieces to build around

  175. tnew Says:

    If the organization was truly done with Jameis, they would deactivate him. Why??? Injury. He can get hurt just as easy in practice. Ask the Saints about this regarding Dez Bryant.

    Faking Injury???

    Not even close, Winston wants to play.. bad. Anyone arguing this is crazy. Watch him on the sidelines during the game.

    This is Koetter going down with the ship. He is hoping for 7 games of Fitzmagic to happen. That ship has sailed. Joe wants to know what this is about… this is Koetter putting his personal future in front of the organization’s. This team might just quit on him this week in NY. If it does, and this is my guess, the Glazers must step in.

    If Licht wants to possibly keep his job, he needs to step in, Fire Koetter, recommend a solution to the Glazers, then put every player on notice that they are auditioning for next season. Anyone who thinks Koetter is the answer is way, way wrong. Decent assistant, with a strong head coach that will make him run a balanced offense and makes sure there is a defense as well. Koetter has no care for anything except for an offense that generates explosive plays.

  176. Bucsfan951 Says:

    Bucs about to keep him healthy, pick up that 5th yr option and then trade him during the off season. Might as well get something for him!

  177. tnew Says:

    Tickrdr… trade deadline has past

  178. Bucsace Says:

    This may be a redundant question…..But, Is it too early yet to say we should have taken Mariota?

  179. Nick Says:

    I disagree with this article as it’s ripe with bias. Winston never showed signs of life after returning from suspension. I have always supported him, but there was a noticeable drop off from Fitzpatrick’s production and liveliness for the offense. The momentum died from the poor decision to bring Winston back instantly. It showed the weakness of a head coach on the hot seat looking for the answer. However Fitzpatrick was on pace to be a league MVP at that point. Shortly after the first benching the rumors of trade requests arose because the team was fragmented. We never recovered in my opinion.

    Also why would the team want to invest in a QB that’s one wrong decision away from being suspended indefinitely? Relying on him, a leader (for lack of a better word) that never reported the last incident to the team leaving them to be blindsided. For all they know, that wrong decision has already occurred and is just waiting on the next person to come forward. That’s not a franchise player. This was a consequence of Winston’s decision to party with a rapist on trial after just settling his own rape case in civil court. In the end, it wasn’t his poor choice in company, it was his own decision to sexually assault a stranger that did him in.

  180. Eric Says:

    This ties for the dumbest move in franchise history.

    Letting Doug Williams walk over 100k is currently number one in my book.

    Idiocy beyond belief.

  181. Buccaneerscotty Says:

    Maybe we can trade him for a kicker ? Oh wait nobody would give up a solid kicker for Winston lmao

  182. Buc1987 Says:

    I think JW will be back for the Bucs under center in 2019. With a different coach. yep I’m crazy, and could be wrong.

    We will see.

  183. tickrdr Says:

    Very good point, thanks!


  184. Bucsace Says:

    $21 million reasons not to play Jameis

  185. Bucsace Says:

    21 million reasons not to play Jameis

  186. VAbuc Says:

    Dirk knows its over so hes gonna make jameis and the glazers suffer why I do but he is a true A-hole its crazy how he turned out to be one of the worst coaches in franchise history I pray he never works the sidelines for any team ever again he bascially say the he’ll with the glazers since im leaving after the season imma destroy this organization ……unless we are tanking on the low for who the hell knows

  187. Troy Says:

    Licht and Koetter are the most confused people on the planet.

  188. Troy Says:

    There’s not a team in the league that’s picking up that 21mil in a trade with the Bucs. They’re going to wait for him to get cut.

  189. Rod Munch Says:

    Fitz – 0-4 in his last 4 starts
    Winston – 2-2 in his last 4 starts

    It’s not about winning, it’s Dirk throwing a hissy fit over Mike Smith bring forced out. Fire this idiot already.

  190. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Licht is the worst GM in the NFL, lets say they even remotely had this one their mind, trade winston last February for a #1, and go draft one of the qbs available this year or go get NIck Foles and trade tyour spot to a needy QB team, LIcht has mismanaged this team to the very bottom and there is ZERO base to this team. This franchise is a good 2-4 years from not being this crap that is rolled out each Sunday

  191. RTG Bucs Says:

    Calling the Bucs the Browns South as I have seen people post is a disgrace to the Browns. This franchise is much worse!!

  192. T REX Says:

    Munch crying into his winston blow up doll. LOL. Awesome.

    @ silent idiot – You named 2 QBs from the mid-80s and one from the 90s…Dilfer was garbage here. He didn’t deserve a 2nd contract. Look at Doug’s numbers…awful. Steve Young? I’ll accept that one but do you have anything from the 90’s on? No?


    Freaking whiny winston knob slobberers. I can’t wait for you losers to get off the Bucs bandwagon. You all are worthless.

  193. Jeagan1999 Says:

    Neither QB is in the Bucs long term future. Jameis has been a disappointment on the field and a huge distraction off it. Fitz is at least a savvy, veteran backup who can mentor a new rookie QB after we draft one in April!

    I would guess that Koetter has convinced the Glazers that Jameis will never be a quality NFL starter (which I agree with), and thinks he can buy himself another season by drafting a new QB (without all the off the field red flags).

    The writing is on the wall. Jameis is GONE! All the apologists might as well get used to it. We might as well start talking about which QB we will draft.

    Goodbye and good riddance JW!

  194. Buxfan44 Says:

    To keep putting Winston “down the throats of Bucs fans” is an insult

  195. FortMyersDave Says:

    If Koetter and Licht were not trying to save their jobs I,d venture that the Bucs are trying to tank to catch up with the Raiders and the Giants in the race for a top 3 draft pick. Chuckie may lock up the number 1 overall when the Giants beat Fitz provided they do not upset the Niners tonight so that OT win over Cleveland probably will cost the Bucs a marquee player as history has taught us……

  196. DBS Says:

    HeavyE. Couldn’t figure it out I see. Well at least you remember I own a trailer park. Remember what city? Oh and calling me names does not bother me. Just shows how immature you are. LOL.

  197. JimmyT Says:

    The most ridiculous post ever!! Jameis faking or lying about an injury? That is so ridiculous I’m stunned! It doesn’t work that way FARTMAN!! They ha e TEAM DOCTORS! I mean r u serious! BTW Jameis has already made MANY MILLIONS SO HE not worried about his next paycheck! One thing for sure at 24 years old I can assure u he will make a real organization very happy for many years! Also he will HAUNT this loser classless ORG and all the HATER for many years. Like u FARTMAN!! Unreal post I still cannot believe that u would post something so stupid!

  198. Rod Munch Says:

    Fitz, 0-4 in his last 4 starts.
    Winston, 2-2 in his last 4 starts (3-1 with a decent kicker)

    This is about winning and losing, this is about Dirk being a d-bag who is intent on blowing up the team before he’s kicked out the door.

  199. stpetebucsfan Says:


    You’re correct about Jameis wealth. If you google you’ll find he has a net worth of 25 million.

    I’m not worried about the money…just the distraction. Our fan base is clearly divided….just read this blog. His teammates seem to be growing weary of his act as well. He could be a great passer/QB…he could be the latest incarnation of Jeff George…great arm..messed up head.

  200. WalkdaPlank Says:

    “One thing for sure at 24 years old I can assure u he will make a real organization very happy for many years! Also he will HAUNT this loser classless ORG and all the HATER for many years. “

    Can you say (all together now)….Josh Freeman!

  201. HeavyE Says:

    @dbs Yes it does…….LMAO

  202. Ndog Says:

    So you people that don’t want Jameis playing, why? What does it hurt, if he does suck we will all see and if he does well then we have a good player with a bright future. But you see your blind hate for him screws with your judgement. That or your just an idiot.

  203. T REX Says:

    @ ndog – Hate? If he gets hurt we owe him $21 mill and that goes towards the cap. What more do you need to see? He sucks.

    I’m not blind…we all can see he sucks.

  204. WalkdaPlank Says:


    I actually think playing Jameis is probably the better move. However he is still not franchise QB material. The Giants game is probably out most winnable one left on the schedule. If there was a time to let Jameis shine it would’ve been this Sunday.

    He’s done

  205. tickrdr Says:

    Rod Munch Says:
    November 12th, 2018 at 8:01 pm

    Fitz, 0-4 in his last 4 starts.
    Winston, 2-2 in his last 4 starts (3-1 with a decent kicker)
    Since the Bucs have only won three games this year, and Fitzpatrick led the offense during the first two wins over the Saints and Eagles, then you must be also counting the last game of 2017 to get to 2-2 for Jameis. Just need to remind you that the Bucs had lost nine straight games with JW3 as QB, only interrupted by Fitzpatrick going 2 – 1 for three games.

    Some people were pretty convinced and quite happy that the Bucs tanked the last game of 2014, so that they could secure the #1 overall pick, and select JW3.
    Do you think that maybe Koetter indirectly may not have minded too much, if the Bucs actually lost that last game vs. NO, since that may have helped to land Chubb in this year’s draft. Perhaps he was a little peeved that Jameis did not run the play as called???


  206. THETRUTH Says:

    Not till now am I convinced Joe you do have man crush on JW , if Job is to win he doesn’t give you best option to. Check history , check his play last 3 years and what makes you think he will be different. Poor play you say by FITZ well that makes JW play crap. I rather have a Qb that can see field and get rid of ball quick than sit back and hold ball for 8 sex and still throw pic.

  207. BrianBucs Says:


    Forcing Fitzpatrick down the throats of Bucs fans? Have you been living under a rock?
    Most fans would like to Never see Winston take the field in a Bucs uniform again.
    Koetter said Winston would have a chance to play again, he just didn’t say it would be here.

  208. SailorJerry Says:

    Another season over in early November.

    3-13 Season is an absolute. Let the kids play including Winston. Time to evaluate talent for new coach and GM

  209. SailorJerry Says:

    Completely agree with you Joe

    JW should start the rest of the year. That is the only interesting story line to follow in another miserable season

    Thanks Glazers for freeing my Sundays to do something else.

  210. tnew Says:

    jeagan… if Dirk had convinced the Glazers Winston isn’t the guy, he would be at least inactive but probably cut. That would be the only way there would be no chance to lose the $21mil.

    More likely, the Glazers have serious apprehension around the coach. There has been a rift between Winston and Koetter since Minnesota. This is a broken relationship.

  211. Lamarcus Says:

    How Fitz gonna mentor anyone and he sucks. Teach a young Qb to be like Fitz….ok that’s JW problem now. Learning from losers. Enough

  212. ghost Says:

    Lamarcus Says:
    November 12th, 2018 at 9:51 pm
    How Fitz gonna mentor anyone and he sucks. Teach a young Qb to be like Fitz….ok that’s JW problem now. Learning from losers. Enough

    must be a sad feeling to hang out all day on a team blog to stan for a single player.

  213. Lamarcus Says:


    Shut up. Sad to stand on site bashing one also. Same could be said. I want the Bucs to win and JW gives the best chance.

  214. BrianBucs Says:

    It took the Bucs a while to realize that Winston stinks, or maybe they just couldn’t say it publicly. We now see them starting the moving on process. About time.
    Winston will be some other team’s backup next season a
    and will be out of the league in 3 years.
    Thank You Jason Licht for squandering the first pick of the draft by drafting Vince Young 2.0

  215. ModHairKen Says:

    It’s real simple. The Meadowlands has strange wind patterns and Jameis can’t throw the ball accurately in normal conditions. Fitzgerald on the other hand has played in that Stadium many times and throws the ball much better in the Wind.

  216. Dapostman Says:

    If Winston was not in the plans then he would be inactive and Griffin would be the backup. It’s really simple. Winston should get the last 6 games to see if he’s learned anything by sitting and watching. Koetter knows he’s done unless Winston takes off then Koetter may have saved his job by developing Winston into a mature NFL QB.

  217. Captain Dan Lawrence Says:

    I don’t feel like the Bucs are shovi g Ryan down our throats at all, I would start him too!

  218. D1 Says:


    Absolutely correct. Add, an owner with deep pockets who needs to win ASAP. The location, Los Angeles is a big deal and is high profile unlike say…..Tampa.
    A team that had been underperforming with (as you stated, cornerstone) high draft pick players that were young. High round draft picks. Cap room.

    All those selling items that could be seen as attractive to a Head Coach candidate and they didn’t land a Harbaugh, Arains, McCarthy. Yes, they weren’t available, that is not the point. The team didn’t land a big name proven NFL Head Coach nor a big deal College Coach. They had to pick an inexperienced HC w little more coordinator experience. Basically they took a gamble and it is working.

    The candidates will not be the harbaughs or Arians, they won’t be Riley or Shaw.
    Throwing money at the problem won’t matter (top NFL HC coach type money) no tax state and weather,,is not something that just happened and so far…it’s not drawn anyone. Dungy was the proverbial last man standing when the time came and Gruden was traded for otherwise He won’t have been here.

    Dream big, and settle for crumbs. That’s the Buc Life.

  219. Oneilbucs Says:

    This fan base suck this team suck this franchise suck this coaching staff suck . We have a quarterback that can help this team win and yall rather to see him go . Well y’all got what yall wanted in Fitzpatrick I told y’all he suck but yall wouldn’t listen

  220. Ed Says:

    I think the Bucs are going to trade Winston in the offseason. There are going to be some qb needy teams that will go after his potential. If he had great coaching and was with an organization that rewarded performance instead of mediocre players he may have a chance of being resurrected.

    No one knows exactly what the future is for some of the mid-to-lower level quarterbacks whose contracts are high and may be cut by their teams.

    Winston could be salvaged with the right coaching but since Tampa is rebuilding again it doesn’t make sense for him to be part of a rebuild.

  221. Vincente Says:

    Bye Winston. Stop Joe. Your little romance with that guy is just annoying at this point.

  222. Mr. T Says:

    The Bucs will beat the Giants which will ignite a 7 game winning streak allowing them to sneak into the playoffs. Hey, I can dream can’t I?

  223. 1sparkybuc Says:

    We have a third QB. Start him. At least then we will see if coaching is the problem. 500+ yards and 3 points. I’ve seen enough of Fitz. Jameis would have scored more than that with or without the turnovers.

  224. Buc407 Says:

    Wow. Just wow

  225. diggler Says:

    cmurda Says:
    November 12th, 2018 at 2:46 pm
    Fire Dirk, Fire Licht. Glazers fire yourselves and sell this team. Please, anything. I need some explosions and whatnot just to feel better.

    LOL this post made me feel better!

  226. Bucsdelight Says:

    Think about this, Bucs lead the NFL in YPG, but we can’t win.

  227. YucLife Says:

    Joe get off Jammis jock because that guy is a joke just like the rest of the team !!! He’s not to be trusted and I guarantee theirs more to the story that they aren’t sharing ?? This season is already a wash and obviously he’s not in their future brought on by his play and all the drama off the field.. time to move on because the Bucs sure don’t listen to you

  228. jerseybuc Says:

    LakeLand Says:
    November 12th, 2018 at 4:37 pm
    “If FitzTragic gives you the ‘Best’ chance to win

    You must be the WORST team in the NFL”

    Right. Because he has beaten the 7-1 Saints and the defending champ Eagles.

    Fitz has had plenty of help in his losses this year. The D in the Bear game, His Center, top WR, and K in the last game. What you got on 3? He is not the answer, is the biggest turnover machine of any potential starting QB in the league right….all he will do is take up $120 million plus in salary and guarantee we will be mediocre at best.
    Move on.