“Old Jameis”

November 26th, 2018

Young QB playing old.

To give folks an idea of how far America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, fell after returning from his three-game sentence handed down by NFL strongman Roger Goodell, it only took the sight of a good-guy teammate on the verge of exploding.

Demar Dotson is one of the nicest guys you will ever meet. Joe cannot imagine he has an enemy in the world. But even he was fed up with Jameis this season.

At Cincinnati, Jameis, in one of his four interceptions, you could see Dotson jump off the ground as if he was playing basketball again for Southern Miss, flailing his arms in disgust like a child who tried to pick up a hot pan out of the oven. Man, Dotson was hot.

But yesterday after Jameis led the Bucs to a needed win over the 49ers, Dotson had interesting things to say about his old/new quarterback.

“I think Jameis was more settled in tonight,” Dotson said by way of ESPN’s Jenna Laine. “He knew where he was going with the ball. He made plays with his feet. It was like the old Jameis back there.

“To me, he looked good back there, he was more poised back there.”

Yeah, Jameis didn’t get rattled at all.

Now those who listen to the internationally-popular Ira Kaufman Podcast may remember last week Joe remarked how he thought Jameis was unusually subdued in the weekly press conference for starting quarterbacks.

It almost seems that the new, calmer Jameis may have carried over from that press conference onto the field yesterday.

Maybe that’s what the Bucs needed: a calm Jameis, not the overly-hyped Jameis of eating W’s fame.

41 Responses to ““Old Jameis””

  1. Buc believer Says:

    How does THAT tast all you Jameis haters??? You know who you are from the idiots on the radio to the know nothings who post that Jameis is trash. Get used to him being here.

  2. Bucsfanman Says:

    “To god be the glory!”
    One game Buc Believer. Don’t have an aneurysm trying to be the “I told you so” guy. Jameis played extremely well. We’ve seen this movie before which is why he drives people crazy. Good Jameis/Bad Jameis!
    Yesterday we saw Good Jameis. Hopefully he’ll carry that through the rest of the season.

  3. Bucs Fan #7423 Says:

    First of all, Jamies didn’t turn the ball over… HALLELUJAH!!!!

    Miracles do happen in Tampa

  4. Joe Blahak Says:

    Ask djax how good he is compared to other QBs?

  5. TheNorm Says:

    Lol. Dude has played one good game this season and the moron asks “how does that taste”? Lmao.

    Tastes like an average QB to me.
    The bar is set so low that we celebrate the fact he didn’t turn it over a half dozen times lol.

    Enjoy it. In a week or two it’ll be back to what normal is for him. Yesterday isn’t “the norm” yesterday was the exception.
    Let that sink in. Lol.

  6. BrianBucs Says:

    The “old Jameis? Lol
    Since Winston came into the league , he leads the league in interceptions. Last year, despite playing in only 13 games, he led the league in fumbles. As a starting QB he has a losing record.
    Now that’s the “old Jameis”

  7. Easy Says:

    Jameis beat a bad team at home. Lets see if he can continue his streak against a division rival that’s pretty damn good at home this week.

  8. Rick Says:

    I just hope he doesn’t come out next weekend and try to force balls to a disgruntled Djax.

  9. JRUSS Says:

    I don’t care if Jameis is the quarterback for the Bucs or not, with that said name one quarterback that we’ve had that’s better.

  10. Loyaltotheend Says:

    Great game Jameis, now build on this and finish strong

  11. JRUSS Says:


    Football is a TEAM sport and last time I checked Jameis doesn’t play on our historically bad defense. So the win-loss record is misleading when referring to the Bucs.

  12. Not there yet Says:

    I would love to see Winston do that every time Dotson whiffs on a block and ends up on the ground. Both of the quarterbacks are running for their lives dot, you’ll be outta here too after this season

  13. BrianBucs Says:

    Just maybe all of that NFL ordered counseling is doing Winston some good. Only time will tell

  14. Buc believer Says:

    @Thenorm….. just stew over Jameis good game while your flipping your burgers at McDonald’s today burger boy.

  15. D-Rome Says:

    It was like the old Jameis back there.

    That’s an interesting comment to me. Regardless of “stats”, at this point of his career I feel that Jameis was better his first two seasons than last year and this year.

  16. GoBucs72 Says:

    Hey clowns, Jameis is going to be the starting QB on this team period, if you don’t like it you can take your Bucs gear off and fish your Tebow jerseys out of the moth balls in your closet and tell us how great he is and why he should be starting for The Bucs. You Jameis haters are all transparent idiots. Have a great day and GO BUCS!!

  17. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I knew he could do it.

    But let’s set some things straight:

    It was a victory against a team with a worse record than we had…one vying for the first pick.

    The biggest difference was the defense. They played their best game of the year. The issue was never the offense…the picks were the result of desperate QBs trying to come from behind because the defense constantly blew it.

    The defense did well against a bad team. That’s good, because they needed a confidence builder.

    What we have now is the offensive line of the future. Because of injuries, the young guys have replaced the starters, and they are doing a great job.

    I felt bad for Dotson when he went down. He has probably played the last game of his career if the injury takes him out for the season. However, he should not have been starting anyway. Guys were getting past him all season, including last night. I find it hard to believe he is better than his backup, so he was starting out of seniority, not because he deserved it. Time to cut the cord and save some money.

    Yes, the 49ers are a bad team…but that doesn’t mean the Bucs are not ready to turn a corner. The injury to Davis will hurt, but one thing the team showed in that game. Dirk Koetter has not lost this team. They are still playing hard for him, which means they don’t want him to go. When was the last time a Bucs coach on the hot seat had the players still play hard for him like this? The Glazers might just take note if they start winning.

  18. Ed Says:

    Joe: I’m 100% in complete with agreement of you finally coming to the conclusion that Jameis has been wound up way too tight and if being subdued and realizing that he isn’t as great as he thinks he is, then there is a chance that he can get his career back together.

    What he did yesterday was unique for him because he was checking down the ball to Rogers instead of trying to make some crazy scramble play where he has a likely chance to fumble. When he did scramble on the 2 touchdown throws to Brate and Humphries he calmly threw the ball to an open receiver in single coverage.

    I’d much rather see him as an efficient QB that can extend drives by throwing quicker and shorter passes than trying to be Joe Namath with the 7 step drops and firing into triple coverage 25 yards downfield.

    He may just be one of those players that need to just play within a system and stop trying to win games on his own. Steady is the only way he will be successful. The path for him is in consistency, not streaky playing.

  19. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Also, in regard to Jameis, if he can focus on being a game manager for a bit, he’ll mature a lot. That hinges on the defense keeping up the good playing.

  20. TheNorm Says:


    Lmao good one. Enjoy it.
    I’m not stewing I just refuse to wear rose colored glasses like your dumbas s
    Funny calling me a burger flipper while you still live at home with your mommy lmao.

  21. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I like how he wasn’t forcing the ball to DJax. He stopped doing that…and we won.

    Frankly, I’m all for Godwin being promote and DJax being demoted, except it might hurt Jackson’s trade value.

  22. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:


    I’m not going to insult you. I get it. At this point, you have every right to be skeptical. This team has given fans plenty of reason to be.

    That said, hope springs eternal. You can be skeptical and still hope for the best.

    My approach is this: I care about the players on this team. I want to see them succeed. I refuse to root for them to experience bad things. Most of them are playing hard. They deserve good things.

  23. Pickgrin Says:

    Dotson who turns 34 next year may not play another down in the NFL if his knee injury is as severe as it appeared last night.

    Winston has at least a dozen more years in this league.

    Its time for all the Winston haters – (who suddenly became emboldened because of how the 2 year old Uber accusation went down and literally crawled out of the woodwork 6 months ago gleefully spewing their venom and bile at #3) – to scurry back into those dark holes of life you call home whenever the lights are on.

    Give Jameis Winston a solid OLine with a balanced running attack and an average defense to go along with his current group of stellar receiving weapons – and watch this still young QB compete for multiple Championships over the next 12-15 years.

    Winston is not going anywhere. He will be a Buccaneer for many years to come. So to those who consistently have nothing good to say about the young man – even after games like yesterday when praise is obviously warranted – do yourselves and everyone here a favor – and go find another team’s fanbase to troll…

  24. Buc believer Says:

    @Thenorm…. my apologies for calling you a burger flipper that was not fair I don’t even know you. I’m just not letting anyone or anything diminish the performance that Jameis put on. Have a great day.

  25. Stu Says:

    Xanax works.

  26. El_Buc941 Says:

    Actually Jameis did what Jameis does with me exception of both turnovers.the difference was the defense!they actually showed up to play for once and didn’t cost us the game.like a talking head said yesterday…..does it say anything that the most Tampa has lost a game has been by 5 points except for one?

  27. TheNorm Says:

    @all of you

    If Winston can turn himself around stop the turnovers and start playing consistently every game then you’ll see me turn around my support.
    I’ll happily eat crow. I and many other fans have more reasons to be skeptical than we do to not be. So we’ll see.

    You’ll all talk trash to me every time he plays well and I will you every time he plays bad until one day he’s a consistent player and we’re all on the same side.

    Or not.

  28. Dapostman Says:

    If you can not figure out that all people mature at different times you are a moron. There is no set timetable as everyone has different upbringings. That being said I believe sitting was good for Winston after Cincy once the Bucs went to 3-7 it was time to see if he learned anything. Winston has a huge upside that I’m willing to wait and see if he can turn the corner. So far so good.

  29. stpetebucsfan Says:

    It’s just been a weird season and people can slam Goodell for it but only a totally brain dead idiot would barely escape his rep at FSU and then hang out his first off season blackout drunk with a convicted rapist at 3AM. NOBODY made JW do that. But it’s in the past…it totally screwed this season but I’m certainly patient enough to see if he learned his lessons.

    Yesterday was a very POSITIVE indication he has. I think JW finally has been chastised and is ready to change.

    This year for the first time I saw a lost, almost fearful look in JW’s eyes in that Cincy disaster. He was not his former self…cocky and full of himself. Yesterday he struck the proper balance…not afraid or unsure…but not so freaking cocky as to be ignorant. If he has struck that balance for real…then he could still have a nice career here.

  30. John Says:

    Joe is not allowing most of my post simply because I think Winston is not the right person to be the face of the buc’s…. Oh well, most followers are intelligent enough to see that Winston is what he is – an average to below average QB AT BEST…..Certainly not a QB to build a dynasty upon……

  31. Erik w/ Clean Athletics Says:

    If Jameis would PLEASE just play like he did yesterday, consistently, we will be Perrenial Powerhouse/Dynasty Team…

    Yesterday was the Blueprint, Jameis!!!

    Now, just Replicate that type of performance over and over again and we’re GOOD TO GO AT THE QB POSITION FOR 10+ YEARS.

    No excuses, just DO IT.

    -Sincerely, Bucs fans

  32. JIMMY T Says:

    U r NO BUC FAN! Just a clueless Jameis’s hater

  33. Marques Says:

    We forget he is 24 years old. He is still very young. He needs time to grow as a qb, as a person and as a leader. He has had his ups and downs both on and off the field. Would you quit on your own son?

    Don’t quit on Jamis. The montra “NEVER GIVE UP” applies. He may not be progresing as fast as we wuld all like but he is progressing. Trust the process.

    Dirk has to go. He does not have the skillset to be a successful head coach in this league. Not yet anyways.

  34. tickrdr Says:

    Kudos to Jameis and the Bucs for a well-played game.
    For the second time this year, the Bucs won the turnover battle, and won the game. Funny how often that works out.


  35. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    It actually has been a pleasure seeing… (for the most part)… the name calling and in-fighting between us kind of come to a halt for today…

    It does show that we really are rooting for the same things. There have been a lot of “labeled anti Jameis” people today who are expressing happiness with what they saw, and throwing a “show me, Jameis” attitude.

    It’s good to see.
    I will say it again… We all do wear the same color.

  36. Rod Munch Says:

    Amazing what happens when your defense doesn’t have you down by 21 points in the 2nd quarter and you’re not having to take chances in order to try to get back into the game.

  37. Bucsfanman Says:

    Rod- It’s amazing what happens when your offense plays mistake-free football and doesn’t put the defense in pressure situations.


  38. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:


    The Jameis suspension didn’t cost us this season. We won two of those three games.

    What cost us was everything that followed. Jameis prepared for the 4th game for three weeks, then had the rug pulled out from under him. On top of that, although the suspension took place this year, the reason for the suspension happened three years ago. Yet people crucified him for it after he went years proving himself.

    I agree, hanging out with Darby was stupid. Drinking with him was even more stupid. But that happened years in the past, not this year. He’s modified his behavior since then. Doesn’t even drink anymore.

    No. It was all on the Defense and on the kicker this year.

    When both finally played well, we won. Jameis made no mistakes because he wasn’t trying to come from behind.

  39. quickdrw21 Says:

    Wisnston has one good game with out a pick and a fumble and some of you are wanting to have a pareade on DM highway. The fact this is even a topic shows what a lousy qb he is. Cant wait till him Jason and Dirk are no longer standing at a Bucs podium making excuses and promises they cant keep. Move on people hes a lousy qb and we all know it.

  40. Jean Lafitte Says:

    I’m going to refrain myself from wagging my finger at his supporters but Jameis has 5 more games to convince us that he’s the guy, and the rest won’t be a cake walk like the 49er game was.

  41. Jean Lafitte Says:

    Keep this also in mind, had it not been for our defense keeping the 9ers in check our 5 punts could’ve cost us the game. In fact we received the opening kickoff and punted. Had they scored first they were gonna get the ball first in the second half. Jameis has to find ways to sustain drives, and that mainly stems from accuracy. We just can’t afford to give up possessions without a score. Panthers
    won’t be as forgiving and will probably score every time we give it back to them.