Not Good Enough

October 14th, 2018

The bar is very high for America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, as it should be for any healthy, veteran No. 1 overall pick saddled with the worst defense in the NFL and a lethal arsenal of targets.

Today, Jameis made two mistakes. Matt Ryan made none. That’ll get you beat nearly every time — especially when your defense is approaching NFL history for allowing the most points and the highest QB completion percentage.

And yeah, Jameis’ chemistry with DeSean Jackson wasn’t there when it was needed most. However, Jameis largely was composed in his first start of the season. He didn’t get rattled by a late hit. He threw so many balls right on the money.

Of course, the numbers were there and please don’t tell Joe there were “garbage time” yards in this game. Jameis was 30-for-41 for 395 yards with four touchdowns plus those two very costly interceptions. He ran well, too, and looked very poised overall.

As Joe has written a hundred times since Josh McCown was made the Bucs starter to start the 2014 season. It’s a huge uphill climb if you have the fourth-best QB in this division and a poor defense. That’s just the cold reality of the situation.

All Jameis can do is be Jameis. What he did today would be good enough to win on most teams with a defense. He was good, just not good enough.

134 Responses to “Not Good Enough”

  1. Jordan L Says:

    He sucks

  2. Anonymous Says:

    Sorry Joe but no matter how bad the defense played if Drew Brees or Matt Ryan have to make plays to overcome their defense they do it. Jameis probably will never be elite.

  3. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Garbage time numbers against the 31st worst defense in the nfl, the last drive was non garbage time but this team is going against stiffs that will not be in the nfl too much longer, winston is just an average qb, an elite qb doesnt make those ints in the red zone

  4. WeAreLost Says:

    Sadly the Defense will not be fixed this year. Most likely no playoffs again.

  5. MadMax Says:

    Trade him!

  6. BucNAE Says:

    @Jordan L…. You suck

  7. Bucs fan #7423 Says:

    Jamies was fine stop hating. YOU HAVE TO PUT UP 40 POINTS TO WIN WITH A MIKE SMITH DEFENSE!!!!!

  8. Lamarcus Says:

    Far from the reason we lost and looked good in his first game back as a starter. And shows why he is a starter

  9. gp Says:

    The play on the field is what it is BUT….
    Three or four non called PI’s would have changed the score by as many as two TD’s the other way


  10. Pete I Says:

    And he never will be.

  11. JabooBuc Says:

    They weren’t garbage time yards but it was against a garbage defense

  12. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I absolutely agree….Jameis didn’t lose us this game……our defense did…..we bent early….right before the half and bent enough for a late long FG……this defense is weak.
    Sure, Jameis made a couple of mistakes…..but we should have won this game.

  13. Architek Says:

    Empty stats, picks, inaccurate.

    4 years straight.

  14. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Licht has had 4 years to build a defense and he has built an NFL worst an historic worst nfl defense, licht is the one who needs to be shown the door

  15. unbelievable Says:

    Man I always knew this was a dumb fan base, but it’s really reaching new levels of stupidity these days.

    Being down by 2 points, or 9 points, is not garbage time. Idiots.

  16. Mike30#1Bucfan Says:

    @jordan l……… you suck x2

  17. PolkFan Says:

    Jameis played good enough to win , the first pick was the best punt we’ve had all season the red zone pick stunk. The defense had 2 weeks to prepare and still shat the bed 400+ yds 30+ points it’s time for a change.

  18. Vincente Says:

    So I making chili for dinner. Any advice on how to cook some bad ass chili for 5 people?

  19. Bucs fan #7423 Says:

    When are we gonna fire Mike Smith?!?!?!

  20. Skoorb43 Says:

    My only comment is they may have had two chances to the end zone. I don’t agree with that plat call

  21. Season Is Over Says:

    You yourself proclaimed all week Atlanta’s defense was weak. Once again Winston loses the first half when the modern day NFL games are won. It is the story of his career. Do you see this changing? His frantic Freeman comebacks are tiresome and unreliable for any sustained success. Those blind passes today looked like something you see from a bunch of 40 year old guys playing backyard ball. Winston has no clue where those passes were going to land. This is beyond troubling.

  22. VegasBuc Says:

    He’ll only get better from here. He’s here for at least the rest of the year, why not support him and hope he can get us enough wins? Division games are always tough. I’m frustrated just like most of the fanbase, but it is what it is…not easy bein a Bucs fan. Most can’t handle the heat, so leave or support em cause no one wants to hear an adult baby cry day after day.

  23. Rod Munch Says:

    Shut the F up, when you throw for 400 yards and 4 TDs and put what should be more than 30 points on the board you win if your team isn’t coached by morons. Anyone bashing Winston today should do the world a favor and celebrate Budd Dwyer day by emulating him.

  24. Wombat Says:

    Jameis isn’t very good….. sorry, time to move on here

  25. TJ Says:

    Dude, Jameis doesn’t play defense….you can continue your hate, I got it….I love the Bucs too. But when they throw the ball uncontested and pck up chunks of yards on 3d down and leave the offense in a bind…I’m pretty sure you don’t know what the f#ck you’re talking about and the defense is God awful

  26. Rossta 61 Says:

    Yeah go ahead and trade him and then let him go beat us on another team our defense still sucks freaking defense is the problem not the QB

  27. Blue-footed booby Says:

    Winston is the 6th best quarterback in the NFC South. Drew Brees, Matt Ryan, Cam Newton, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Teddy Bridgewater all better than Winston.

  28. IsrBuc Says:

    Matt Ryan has no better d, no better targets, lost 2 recieivers but still played extreamly well in the last 4 games being accurate and not turning the ball over. This is not the same with jw. He should have won this game. The d put him in position to win.

  29. Rob Says:

    Vita Vea sucks so far. Zero pass rush. 10 yard cushions on every down doom the defense. Crappy tackling. Red zone picks. Nearly no deep threat because of overthrows (we are used to that from Ja miss). Fire the a$$ clown coaching staff. Enough ineptitude. We can do better than this. Talent there, not the coaching we need to contend. Koetter way over his head. Smith abysmal…check his stats. Glazers, Fire the coaches. They know they can’t do this job. Go Bucs!

  30. AfrikaThaRapper Says:

    One down, eleven to go. Brace yourself Buc fans. It’s going to be a long depressing season once again.

  31. PolkFan Says:

    M.J Stewart looks terrible he looks significantly slower than any player on the field. Javien Elliot should get the start next week

  32. dis Says:

    Its time to trade Winston to a team that has fans that want him. You guys can have all the Fitzmagic you want and then some.

    Giants or Raiders incoming…..hopefully.

  33. IsrBuc Says:

    You are living the past joe. Every qb make these throws nowdays. Jw misses all his deep balls. He should have had 4 ints and had a decent running game that fitz, the better qb, didnt have. Argue with that.

  34. Rod Munch Says:

    The Winston bashers are basically the Trump bashers of the NFL. They’re triggered morons who just repeat themselves over and over and over again to the point that they actually believe their own fake news.

  35. Christian Says:

    The int at the goal line cost the team. That is what needs to stop. A field goal changes things. Missed extra points don’t help

  36. Kirby Says:

    1 interception should have been a pass interference but jameis played great and with pose, the defense gave this game up. And average qbs don’t throw for 400 yards and 4 tds . Only when everything goes perfect like Fitzpatrick first two games🤷🏾‍♂️

  37. Cgmaster Says:

    Isr, the d put him position to win?! What are you even watching?

  38. DB55 Says:

    So a 73% completion percentage is inaccurate?

  39. Dooshlarue Says:

    Jameis showed a little improvement with poise today but his style just doesn’t cut it for me.
    He is a baseball pitcher.

  40. Ndog Says:

    What I find hilarious is the same folks that were gushing over Fitz after the comeback against Pittsburgh where he threw 3 picks including a pick 6. But today Jameis is on the road basically has the exact same game with one less pick and no pick but he’s trash. You people are so transparent.

  41. IsrBuc Says:

    13 games with 2+ ints for jw. Should have had 4 today. Had a decent running game. What ekse you want? U r such a homer camper cause its not just the picks. He had wide open receivers in the redzone and steared into double coverage instead. It is what it is.

  42. First Down Tampa Bay Says:


    Vita was almost single handedly responsible for stopping Coleman on the 3rd and short before Bryant kicked the FG. He absolutely manhandled Brandon Fusco and drove him three yards backwards and collapsed the inside. Even the Falcons’ radio announcers were raving about his strength. Remember, this is only his second game now. Rookie DT dont usually make an immediate impact as far as sacks anyway. Joey Bosa is about the lone exception. Just wait until Mike Smith is gone, the secondary coaches are gone, and these young stud DBs develop a little. Then we will have an ok defense.

  43. Fire The Fans Says:

    The defense put him in a position to win?! The defense was pathetic as usual.JW was not the problem

  44. Cgmaster Says:

    @rodmunch. Well said, they sew the same crap end believe it. Fitz had a game just like this in Pittsburgh and they were singing his praises. They’re all clowns.

  45. Bucs Fan Since ‘76 Says:

    We lost because of Mike Smith. Period. The D scheme is pathetic. Single high safety 25 yards off the ball, and even when we ran Cover Two the safeties were too deep and dropped back at the snap. On top of that, our outside corners play ten yards off the ball. Three straight years of terrible play. If Smith is not fired tonight the season is over.

  46. T REX Says:

    Winston has the 2nd most turnovers in the NFL since entering the league. He’ll over take Bortles by the last game. That equals a lot of losses.

    Lose the turnover battle and you will lose 60% or more of your games. Period.

    Yes, the defense sucks. But you can’t turn it over in this league.

  47. IsrBuc Says:

    Cgmaster- why can jw play only one half? D was stopping the falcons giving jw the ball on the 40 time and again and all he could do is throw a pick. It was for him to win it. Dont tell me what i was watching, homer.

  48. AJ Says:

    Two picks hurt no question. But he did plenty enough to win this game. As is his history with this team. Having to overcome dysfunction with the defense and the kicking game. Was just too much….again.

    Like the fight that I saw from the team. Wish that two point play could have been pulled off.

    Every time I watch Matt Bryant kick FG’s, it sickens me…why was he let go again??

  49. gp Says:

    Falcons decimated defense outplayed our healthy defense (with some help from the refs)
    And were going to blame this on Winston?

  50. Season Is Over Says:

    There were two fumbles on top of the interceptions. This is because he doesn’t get rid of the ball decisively enough. Notice how Winston runs around like a madman behind the line of scrimmage and Fitz didn’t.

  51. Not there yet Says:

    Have to agree with the level of stupidity on this site. Only the back up an is allowed to throw 3 picks in a half but 2 picks in a game he should be traded. Where I’m down about Winston is that was his moment to shine. Down a score with the ball in your hands at the end of the game and he showed no urgency and it was as id they already knew they would lose the game

    Entire team got plunked and treated like the cellar dwellers they truly are. Close game and the offense of Atlanta was down a starting back, lost two starting receivers the second half and still couldn’t stop the offense. I’m done complaining about this garbage regime and players they are breaking the bank to resign. They won’t make the tough calls on players logging major minutes so you know what with two weeks to prepare that’s what happened so don’t be mad at me for expecting them to lose every week. Until they get a new regime in here I’m done wasting my time. When I watch a game knowing they will lose it’s just no fun. See you when we start talking about who the next coach and gm will be

  52. Anonymous Says:

    Agreed @joebucfan With an average defense this a an easy win. Oh and MAKE AN EXTRA POINT!!

  53. Some Guy's Burner Says:

    Two costly picks, one of which took 3 points off the board.

    Glad to see JBF is still a Stan-fest for the guy, though.

  54. HomerSimpsonRocks Says:

    Dooshlarue: agree. a good percentage of his completions were to stationary targets. He’s good at those. Had a few nice passes to targets on the move, and many poor, behind, above or off passes on the rest. I think he’s just average enough to have the Glazers decide to resign him. Don’t know if he’ll ever be more than that. Hope I’m wrong.

  55. Oneilbucs Says:

    If fizpatrick would have played that way with those numbers even with the 2 ints y’all will be saying he played good and it’s the defense and I agree . A team should not have to score 40 points every game just to win . That dude threw 4 td . That’s not garbage yards. Defense is the problem with this team . Now when fizpatrick threw 3ints and the first half and came back in played good y’all never blame him for the lost against the Steelers. All I heard was he played good . The national media going to blame him for this lost but didn’t blame fizpatrick for the Steelers. But I know y’all just hate Winston. So let Winston go play for some one else and watch him help them win all they need is a ok defense and he will help them win . Defense is our problem not quarterback rather it’s fizpatrick or Winston. Fizpatrick played on teams with good defense and he still couldn’t them win he throws the game away. Just like I said last time if we go down by 2 tds we are going to lose with fizpatrick.

  56. Mike Johnson Says:

    And now you know Boyz and girls Why..ATL Owner Arthur Blanks had that Sh.t-eatin grin on his face during halftime. It was almost like he was sayin. Man..I’m glad those coaches are the Bucs problem now..I was a genius for letting them go!!

  57. PewterPower Says:

    Sorry, Butt Munch, but you’re out of touch with reality.

    Successful NFL QBs have to manage turnovers. Winston is consistently a TURNOVER MACHINE. It doesn’t matter if he puts up some TD passes and big yardage when trying to come from behind.

    The top QBs in the NFL rarely turn the ball over and give away games.

    Winston’s turnovers negate any positives he has. It’s one thing to occasionally have a bad turnover game… but Winston has big turnovers in EVERY GAME.

    Bucs would be fools to sign this kid to a $100M contract.

  58. NJBucsFan Says:

    Not sure why anyone thinks he’s good enough to be a true franchise QB…you know the type that doesn’t need the best oline, best WRs, best TEs, and best running game to be successful…this ain’t the ACC anymore. Stop with the stupid throws. Stop with the inaccurate throws.

  59. Bc Says:

    Excluding the spike:

    75% at 10 ypa and 4 TDs with over 400 yards of offense

    Jameis is the problem? Some of you are absurdly stupid

  60. rrsrq Says:

    will it ever be – will we get a running TD, will we ever get inside the 5 and not have a penalty

  61. Coburn Says:

    Defense continues to be biggest problem, no surprise. I’d be hesitant to give James too much credit for big numbers. Any average qb with these weapons against such a garbage defense would put up those kinds of numbers. Difference between a JAG and a great qb is avoiding costly mistakes.

    The bright spot was signs of life I’m the run game and Jones showing he can catch a few balls.. which helps his chances of staying on the field. Not getting too excited again cause of the d but it’s something to build on and some needed confidence

  62. Calbucsfan Says:

    Good to know Jameis is still Jameis after missing 3 games, still no chemistry with Jackson (open in end zone) and still tries to force balls into double coverage when other receiver’s are wide open (Humphries).

  63. swissPolitics Says:

    Yes the $20 million a year guy is supposed to be better than the backup, especially against one of the worst defenses in the league. That isn’t hypocrisy, its an accepted fact and the reason some are called “starter”, “franchise QB”, “face of the team”, etc. and others are not. The only reason Winston claims these titles is that the team spent a boatload of money on him and breaking up is hard to do.

  64. NJBucsFan Says:

    Also…no mention of the should have been interception??? If the DB had hands JW would have turned it over due to his poor accuracy and inability to hit a moving target

  65. Greg Says:


  66. Doug Says:

    Please Bring Fitz back I’m begging

  67. rick Says:

    He’s good. just not worth the big contract he will command.

  68. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Give him a kicker that can make extra points.

  69. Greg Says:

    Sex offender threw 2 ints and it could have been 5. Struggles to hit anyone in stride. Remember this is aginst a bad Atlanta defense. Fitz got pulled after one bad quarter aginst one of the leagues top defenses.

    Sadly the Glaziers dont care about winning. They are going to force Jameis into the game to try to justify drafting him. Mike Smith wont be fired because he is making too much guaranteed money. Dark days for real Bucs fans

  70. Jeagan1999 Says:

    All the Jameis apologists have their heads in the sand. He is what he is….a million dollar arm and a ten cent head. Makes a few great plays, and way too many bad ones (and not just on the field)! 46 INT’s in 46 games….only Blake Bortles has more INT’s since 2015….but at least the Jags have a great defense and a running game.

    Here’s the only question that needs to be asked at this point….knowing what Jameis Winston is, and isn’t, would you sign him to a 6 year, $170 million contract extension if this was your team?

    I sure as hell wouldn’t!

  71. Sweeptheleg Says:

    Winston has peaked. Plain and simple. He isn’t getting better. Same mistakes same missed reads. He has peaked. He is what he is and will be what he has been.

    Face it you stupid FSU homers. He has peaked.

  72. Pryda...sec 147 Says:

    Jameis was awesome ! That man going to keep scoring TDS and he will clean up the mistakes! Believe that ! As for the defense … who the hell knows mike smith 2nd half better than the first but still bad!

  73. firethecannons Says:

    defense is just no good–Julio put up 140+ yards alone again–Mike Smith has no answer so get rid of him before it is too late and get somebody that knows how scheme I hope they get rid of Jason Licht too–dude had all off season to get us some solid secondary help but only picked up unproven rookies

  74. C.Alaka Says:

    Joe! You’re smarter than this! I said this week’s ago, the only way for sick ppl called “Bucs fans” will appreciate Jameis is if he plays prefect. He’s not gonna be perfect but to win w/ this defensive coordinator that the ONLY way he’s gonna be successful

    FYI Jameis has the most yards x TDs from all the QBs that played today. Sorry the guy don’t call defensive plays or kick field goals SMH

  75. firethecannons Says:

    look forward to seeing koetter leave too–his alliance with mike smith is sickening and weird

  76. NPRSageBoy Says:

    Read on competitors site Top 10 QB under 25. Jameis is #8 and he’ll be 25 soon. BTW, Marcus Mariotta is ranked #4.
    Another wasted draft pick for the NFL clown franchise.

  77. T REX Says:

    This is what happens when you draft well on offense only. Offense good and defense bad. Winston has a bunch of weapons and our defense sucks. No balance. Licht is GARBAGE.


    This team will suck as long as they are our owners.

  78. NJBucsFan Says:

    @pryda…we’ve been waiting 4 years for him to “clean up his mistakes”. It’s like fetch…it’s never going to happen.

  79. Luke Says:

    At least after this season I’m sure we will be starting a new chapter. So pay America’s QB ? I think not. It’s a dreadful way to think but reality is stepping in. Jameis is not a franchise QB or by any means a Savoir. This years D resembles the 1976 team. It’s a shame for Gerald but his best bet is to move on. Diidn’t even appear on today’s stat sheet.
    Finally Mr. Smith yeah he’s a problem but this whole coaching staff in minor league. Yup we will be moving another direction again.

  80. FreeTheSecretWeapon Says:

    Can we blame our kicker for something… How about a field goal that took the guy blowing out his hammy…. Why blame Winston… 400 yards and 4 TDs was magical I thought????

    Oh two Picks that should of had PI calls on the DB means Winston sucks…

    We are only as good as the weakest man on the field… And as far as I can tell…. The 12th Man is the weakest link on this team… Coaching aside….

  81. Sweeptheleg Says:

    His 2 picks were pivotal in the loss of this game.

    However you homers never ever place any blame on the culprit.

    Winston has peaked. Average. That’s it. Will not ever win a Super Bowl with Winston and I bet everything I own on it.

  82. D the Bucs fan Says:

    We had a 9-7 record with 23rd ranked defense. Worst defense last year. 5-11 record. Historically worst defense. 2-3 record so far. Why is our our team unprepared after a bye week? Our coaches make adjustments too late. Then when we do play well on d in the second half we don’t stick to whats working. We start playing sofT again and they score. We need to be an aggressive! Peyton barber had 5 yards a pop see what you got with him 15 to 20 runs. Our coaches suck. Out coaching choices suck.

  83. Frank Pillow Says:

    Joe, I’ve been on team Jaboo from the start, but the painful truth is that he is NOT substantially better than Fitz, not does he appreciably increase our chance of winning…and there’s the rub. He’s inprecise and has never been able to consistent throw people open. His deep ball still sucks. Today he looked VERY Dilfer-like at times. No. He’s not close to being good enough and his bad reads, particularly on the int in the end zone continue to cost us games

  84. Oneilbucs Says:

    ANDREW Luck threw for 4 tds and 3 picks. Winston threw 4 td and 2 picks both teams lost. Now let’s see what the national media say about Luck and Winston. Watch the all the love for Luck and hate for Winston.

  85. Buc1987 Says:

    Jameis was 30-for-41 for 395 yards with four touchdowns an 2 picks….

    Translation to JW haters : He sucks!

  86. Buc1987 Says:

    FreeTheSecretWeapon….if Fitz puts up those numbers…he’s a God.

  87. Oneilbucs Says:

    Frank why do a team have to score 40 points every game just to win? Go look at other teams today and that’s why you stay with Winston. Build the defense. Stop blaming the quarterback for putting up 30 points. And you say 2 int lost that game if we had the titans defense we win that game . So it’s not quarterback but defense defense defense defense is what y’all don’t see forget focusing on quarterbacks so much defense win games and championship .

  88. Buc1987 Says:

    And ya know what NONE of any of it matters…..

    Run Jameis run.

    Far far away from this idiot fan base. We’ll just continue to suck like we always have….EVEN before you got here.

    Trade him to the Giants with Barkley so he can go win Super Bowls. We don’t like those in Tampa. Trade him to NY for the kid’s sake. Tampa doesn’t deserve him.

    I’ll still be a Buc fan pissing and moaning every Sunday.

    Run Jameis Run. Tell your agent now…just go….


  89. swissPolitics Says:


    True translation:

    Winston puts up stats that are like Fitzpatrick’s. Fans expect Winston to do more than that given relative draft position/relative money/the things written on this site; any less is disappointing. Also, Fitzpatrick doesn’t do things off the field that (to put it mildly) greatly disappoint Bucs fans like Winston has done. I know you get it.

  90. LakeLand Says:

    They couldn’t score 30 points on a Falcons defense

    Who came into the game giving up 32.6 points a game

  91. NJBucsFan Says:

    87…JW is not mentally strong enough to handle a media market like NY. He also is not a super bowl caliber QB

  92. Buc1987 Says:

    Oneil…they focus on Jameis….and Jameis only.

    I could have sworn I saw a guy on the live thread say he farted….then he blamed Jameis for it!

  93. Buc1987 Says:

    NJBucsFan…that’s a matter of opinion.

    If Manning can survive. Winston is more than mentally strong enough. Manning’s a wussy.

    Run Jameis run to New York!

  94. webster Says:

    73% is inacurate? He was 8O% completion last week. Does this man have to complete 9O% of his passes for you double wide fans?

  95. Buc1987 Says:

    NJBucsFan…the kid got DESTROYED by the national media for2-3 years straight….

    BUT you’re telling me he couldn’t handle the NY media????

    STOP it!

    How do we take you guys serious anymore?

  96. NJBucsFan Says:

    What has he done to show he is? He hasn’t improved…and he’s benefited from a small market media from day 1 of his NFL career. Stop the nut hugging and open your eyes without the garnet shades and maybe you’ll see him for what he really is…an inaccurate QB that lacks the ability to play smart football.

  97. DB55 Says:

    Don’t look not but Jameis is the leading QBs in the nfl this week as of right now.

  98. Buc1987 Says:

    webster…they have no f-ing ground to stand on….

    What if he had thrown for 55% 184 yards 1 TD and 3 picks?



    What would you say?????????

    webster…the base wants Fitzy anyways…bring him back….bring back Steve DeBerg.

  99. Capt.Tim Says:

    One and a half games
    4 interceptions
    Not bad for an alleged 2 time sex offender

  100. Bucsfanman Says:

    Some of you really missed your calling as dive bar comedians!!!
    Sure, Winstons picks didn’t help but for crying out loud, can our defense stop anybody?! Crossing route um hello! Anyone?!
    Jameis did fine.
    Find a defensive coach that can teach these secondary players how to play. Geez!!! Oh, a pass rush occasionally would be nice too!

  101. Troy Says:

    This post is ridiculous. Winston was not good today. Period. I could care less about statistics. He’s not a winner. Winners see the open receiver in the flat instead of throwing the pick. Winners don’t run that ridiculous play on the last play of the game. I’d love to see this team with Mayfield.

  102. Doug Says:

    Winston and 93 need to go!!

  103. Architek Says:

    Funny how we are having the same discussions for 4 years / chicken or the egg…

    Defense and coaches stink that’s nothing new

    But the qb misses key throws and turnovers weekly.

    Same song for 4 years – I’m sure if he went to another team there would be a honeymoon period but eventually it’s the NFL they will find you out.

  104. ATrain Says:

    Ryan has a horrible Defense and he won

    We didn’t win simple because our QB had two INT

    Winston is supposed to be Elite

    Fitz did the same thing and was benched we got no more out of Winston

    He has to Win Period

    This Love for him is insane

  105. ATrain Says:

    By the way Fitz can hit the Long Ball

    Just saying

  106. DB55 Says:

    At least 2 teams won their games today when their QB threw at least 2 TDs. Miami won and the Texans

    If you look up this week’s NFL LEADERS you find a picture of Winston under the QB position.


  107. DB55 Says:

    *2 ints

    My bad

  108. Buc1987 Says:

    DB55…none of that matters!

  109. Really??? Says:

    How in Gawd’s name can anyone continue to defend, or brag about Winston? Several here said “he did fine.” OMG. He gave the ball away TWICE. And he cannot hit a long ball. I actually used to visit this site very often, even occaisionally clicking on ads to send Joes some money. I quit visiting this site last season because I can’t stand the america’s quarterback crap. It makes me sick. So I thought I would check back to see if reality is setting in. sadly, no. Bye bye.

  110. Bucsace Says:

    Unless this team does a radical turnaround fast…..Licht, Koetter, and Smith will probably be gone at end of season……I seriously doubt that whoever the new regime will be they will want to be saddled with a continuation of the Jameis Project …..he isn’t an awful QB……But he sure isn’t a $100 million franchise QB either……Like Fitz…….a journeyman in the making

  111. Deborah Hall Says:

    I understand some of the unhappiness towards the defense, but what about offense? Today was hard to watch at the end. I hope McCoy is alright🙏🏼

  112. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Can we officially end the Jameis-Mariota debate? Jameis was clearly the better option of the 2, even through the growing pains. Mariota throws for about 100 yards per game.

  113. Oneilbucs Says:

    Panthers lost 23 to 17 what if we had a defense like that . Falcons record is 2 and 4 . They just played a defense worst than there’s. We need defense y’all need to stop buying in what the national media say. Football is a team game not a quarterback game teams win and lose together. DB55 is right other quarterback won today throwing 2 or 3 ints today so stop it . Just say you don’t like Winston and you want a white quarterback .

  114. BrianBucs Says:

    Fitz runs this offense better than Winston does. Period

  115. Architek Says:

    Fitz is not the answer – seriously.

    Doesn’t matter these robots will be robots and we will keep losing.

    You same robots just let GMC steal 100M and let him be corny and goofy every week and he’s the softest DT in the league among the notable DTs.

    Kwon repeatedly take bad angles and miss tackles and get exposed but he’s fine too I guess.

    Smh – ppl are amazing. So desperate you’re willing to pay for mediocre!

  116. Eric Says:

    Not good enough, I agree.

    But still pretty damn good. Not making me run to give him a new contract, but not discounting he could get one if he balls out these last 11 games.

    Get to .500. We would be right in thick of it.

  117. Mike10 Says:

    18-29 as a starter. That’s all I’ll say

  118. Oneilbucs Says:

    Next week if Winston not perfect we lose it’s his fault . Now when fizpatrick threw 3ints and the first half no body talked about that all they say is he played a good game cause of the second half . I wish they will trade Winston let him go to a winning team . This is the south this ain’t got nothing to with his play on the field. Elie Mannon for 5 years was trash and they made up excuse for him then they got a good defense n running game and then they won. He ain’t did nothing in the league . But Winston they say cut him he only been in the league for 4 years so I know what this is .

  119. Dapostman Says:

    A lot of these comments are so typical that it’s funny. Some guys who I only see posting after a Buc loss so they can come on JBF and bash Winston. These clowns are sooooooo predictable. Winston can’t read defense. Winston can’t hit moving targets. Winston can’t make good decisions. Winston is not a winner, (though this guy doesn’t know Winston WON the heisman and national championship). Winston didn’t score 30 points like Fitz did. Winston should have thrown 5 picks. AND MY FAVORITE ONE, Winston has peaked. So a 24 year old who has improved every year and has played a game and a half has peaked? What a clown.

    #Get After It!!

    BTW, Drew Brees won 7,7 & 7 games in years 2014-2016 but the anti Winston clowns will lick the boots that Brees wears. So predictable.

  120. B-Rad Says:

    If Humphries is your go to leading receiver then you aren’t going to win many games.

    Fitzmagic would not have lost since he has D-Jac & Evans to throw to.

  121. passthebuc Says:

    I for one do not have a problem with JW. He can hold the clipboard

  122. passthebuc Says:

    He did not have the skills in college, why would you expect him to be elite.

  123. webster Says:

    All you jameis haters. Mariotta just threw for 15O yards and was sacked 11 times. That shows poor pocket presense. The idiot named npr talking about mariota is better. You may be the biggest idiot. And to all you white racist, explain to me how it was not fitz fault when he threw 3 ints against pittsburgh? I get it, white qbs can throw 3 ints and its not their fault, but winston throws 2 but its all his fault. You white racist are transparent. Jameis please leave this city/county where they still fly confederate flags and boast confederate monuments. Jameis move on your color is not welcomed here. Its so transparent.

  124. webster Says:

    @ lakeland

    I guess you did not see the kicker miss an extra point. That would give you thirty. Then that means we dont have to go for two. That would give you 31. And yes, jameis threw his 3rd int in the red zone for his career. That were points off the board. Again we have an idiot fan base when 29 – 31 pts are not enough. Scoring is not your problem idiots.

  125. kma119 Says:

    Blame the defense, blame the kicker, blame Jackson (as usual, anyone but Winston)… Bottom line is we all know Fitzpatrick would have won that game. The real issue is that the wrong guy is starting.

  126. webster Says:

    So kma

    Why didnt fitz win the game against pittsburgh with 3 ints? Thats right, ints were not the white man’s fault.

  127. RODNEY J ALLEN Says:

    All u jw hating couch coaches r pathetic just stfu. All we need is an average hell even a slightly below average defense n to get that Smith has got to go. U can’t not game plan have players play 10 to 20 yards off get ate alive and not make changes SMMFH

  128. Buccfan37 Says:

    It’s also known as the Tampa funk. The side joke that gets no respect, if they do it is brief and fleeting. One of the preferred games on every other teams schedule. Go Bucs!

  129. TN-BucsFan Says:

    All of the Winston haters need to go find a new team. Give Winston an average defense and they will win a lot of games. Nearly 400 yards and 4 TDS.

  130. Jay adams Says:

    Fitz is not the answer either. But when he threw 3 picks in a half vs Pitt, he was getting mugged, far tougher def than atlanta.

    If we had a top 10 qb on our roster with the weapons we have we could win
    These close games

  131. JabooBuc Says:

    87- he played a decent game but his 2 picks were costly and can’t happen. Especially the one in the red zone. It was another poor decision amongst a career of poor decisions.

    Why do you give him a pass? He’s not the reason they lost but he’s one of them. You know your defense is hot garbage so you can turn the ball over. It’s really that simple.

  132. SOEbuc Says:

    What the hell are you people talking about? Other than those two crazy ass picks he looked sharp the entire game. Dumba$$’ finally allowing JW to run and he looks good. That offense brought us back to almost winning at the one yard line.

  133. TBTemojin Says:

    Just throwing this out there Jameis had a better QBR then both Mehomes and Brady this week……. /shrug. Meanwhile the defense is making history for all the wrong reasons……. No reason to make a change though Dirk cuz 2 and half years of being terrible simply means Mike Smith is due for a shut out right????

  134. TBTemojin Says:

    Everyone who says things like “If we had a top 10 qb’ or “If we had an elite qb” have completely lost there minds!!! Elite Qbs are not easy to find and they don’t just pop up out of now where!!! If we had an average defense we would be winning these games no tell me which is more obtainable a generational “Elite” Qb like Tom Brady or A Rod or just a competent Defense???? Fix the freaking Defense it’s an embarrassment to football!!!