Dirk Koetter: It’s Fitzpatrick At Carolina
October 29th, 2018
It’s Fitz!
Ryan Fitzpatrick will be the starter Sunday in Charlotte against the 5-2 Carolina Panthers. Dirk Koetter made it official this afternoon at One Buc Palace.
Koetter made it clear this is a one week decision and he’ll go from there.
Man, how far America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, has fallen. Dumped with the season on the line for a journeyman QB who already was benched this season.
Koetter added he doesn’t like switching quarterbacks. We’re going to find out if that’s true.
Musical chairs at the position is a sure fire way to land in last place.
On Jameis, Koetter said, “He will continue to work on his craft. That’s all he can do.” And then Koetter said it’s rare that quarterbacks change is permanent.
Welcome to the circus, Bucs fans.
October 29th, 2018 at 2:40 pm
Thank goodness. This was the only logical outcome.
October 29th, 2018 at 2:40 pm
Jobs are on the line. What would you do?
October 29th, 2018 at 2:41 pm
yeah Baby!!!
Now lets get a trade going!!!!!
October 29th, 2018 at 2:42 pm
It’s the only move to make…Even Dork can see that.
#DEADDIRKWALKING
October 29th, 2018 at 2:43 pm
This is it boys. The Jameis Winston era is officially over. Koetter refuses to hitch his future to jameis anymore. This also proves that koetter failed at developing jw and licht failed to pick the right guy. The entire thing will be blown up at the end of the season. Only a playoff appearance can save these guys.
October 29th, 2018 at 2:46 pm
The next move to make is to trade JW..which ain’t gonna happen. Everybody can see what he is.
So deactivate and bubble wrap him….Activate Griffin…
October 29th, 2018 at 2:46 pm
No Sh!t
NOW TRADE FOR RG TO GET STEAMY STINKY DIAPER BENENOCH OUTTA THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fitz would be that much better than he is now without the rotating door on the right side.
October 29th, 2018 at 2:47 pm
Still going to Lose!!! Lol…….
October 29th, 2018 at 2:47 pm
A bad Fitz is still better than a bad Jamyth
October 29th, 2018 at 2:47 pm
That presser was a joke.. “I dont even know who we play after carolina” zero questions bout the kicker.. ummmm.. Jameis may get back in later this year..ugh…no..no ..no
October 29th, 2018 at 2:47 pm
…then lets hope for a playoff birth.
October 29th, 2018 at 2:47 pm
Implosion, typical buc fashion. Who’s available to coach next year? What free agency qb’s are available and worth the $? Where can I get one of those retro brown paper bags? #itsabucslife
October 29th, 2018 at 2:47 pm
This is the equivalent of Koetter going “all-in” on his career with the Bucs. At least Desean will be content to stay now.
October 29th, 2018 at 2:47 pm
Still going to Lose….LOL
October 29th, 2018 at 2:47 pm
When people talk about firing a head coach. They need to understand it’s a long process and it usually sets a team back several years. While I haven’t been enamored with dirk. I do think we need to hit the brakes alittle. He didn’t draft jameis. This was licht’s call and considering mariota was garbage…. I’m not too hung up on that either.
October 29th, 2018 at 2:48 pm
I would do exactly what the coach did, put the best available player on the field, and today the best alternative on thje QB position is Fitkpatrick.
I am with you 100% coach!!!!
October 29th, 2018 at 2:49 pm
#DirkISDone
#Lichtisonnobodyhome
#DungyforPresident
October 29th, 2018 at 2:50 pm
As it should be. Let’s go Fitz, save the season and perhaps your coach’s job.
October 29th, 2018 at 2:51 pm
Not Koetter’s fault at all. Fault of ownership for ordering Licht to draft the “W” masticator. They had no qualms regarding ramifications relating to his behavior. They still don’t.
October 29th, 2018 at 2:51 pm
Hallelujah!!! Is it justst me or is it more than just the turnovers? Watching Fitz throw to the receivers with precision and timing and not over their heads and behind them is so refreshing after watch JW the last 3 games. The turnovers are just the most glaring issue, but now that we’ve seen how it can be done right with Fitz, it shines a big spotlight on JW’s innaccuracy as a QB.
Go Bucs, playoff push with Fitz and a better D!!
October 29th, 2018 at 2:51 pm
Still this stubborn, bon-head Koetter, is make sure to emphasize that is “one week decision”.
This is bad. Hope Glazers get involved, or we will be in square one again.
October 29th, 2018 at 2:51 pm
I can’t blame dirk nor licht for this move. Blame is squarely on the shoulders of Winston. He forced this move. Unless the Bucs can make it to the playoffs (lol) the Bucs should be having a new gm, head coach, and qb next season. This season is most likely done and it’s not even November yet.
October 29th, 2018 at 2:52 pm
Finally some good news since this is finally nail in winstons coffin his attitude matches his play. Shows the glazers may be turing the corner and seems truthful on waiting to change the Franchice around I swear The Lightning are pushing the up the ante to put out a winning product
October 29th, 2018 at 2:52 pm
Carolina 34
Tampa Bay 24
October 29th, 2018 at 2:52 pm
Go Fitzmagic!
October 29th, 2018 at 2:53 pm
No need to cry today Bucs fans.
October 29th, 2018 at 2:54 pm
The New regime in 2019
Will have a lot of work to do
October 29th, 2018 at 2:54 pm
Finally!!! He is back. Now, maybe I can actually watch a full Bucs game without tuning it out at half time. Great decision by the head coach, if that is who made it?
Fitz should have never been pulled to begin with. No matter what he does, it has to be better than Winston’s 10 interceptions in 3 games. Winston needs to go. Period! End of story! Read the story today in Bleacher Report. Winston is exactly as the scouting report said he was and would be.
October 29th, 2018 at 2:55 pm
BUC IT
Koetter is not an NFL coach. He makes as many bone headed moves as his QB.
Starting Fitz is not one of them.
October 29th, 2018 at 2:55 pm
Panthers 45
Bucs 10
October 29th, 2018 at 2:57 pm
Lakeland the one good thing is I think the Bucs job would appeal to a new HC……It’s hard to argue that he doesn’t have pieces to work with on the offensive side.
October 29th, 2018 at 2:57 pm
It’s not a circus this pathetic fan base deserves to the loser that is the bucs. Idiots keep talking about trading Winston a day before the deadline and trading for a guy that would either be a half a season rental or cost a team 20 mil next year. Damn there are some dumb football fans in this town. Suddenly Fitz is taking us to the playoffs lol but your forgetting what happens when Fitz is under pressure and he will face pressure from the panthers defense Sunday. All I can say is ignorance is truly bliss
October 29th, 2018 at 2:58 pm
One week decision my arse. More clowns than Ringling Brothers at One Buc Palace
October 29th, 2018 at 2:59 pm
Bucsfan 951 Says: You stold my thunder big guy i couldn’t of said it any better than you just did Amen.
October 29th, 2018 at 2:59 pm
JimmyJack
That’s the problem
The Bucs has built a ” passing” offense
A offense that rack up yards
But they are not consistent
The same thing was the problem in Atlanta
October 29th, 2018 at 3:00 pm
They don’t know how to ” Win” football games
October 29th, 2018 at 3:00 pm
Jameis is the future. Just having a tough season so far
October 29th, 2018 at 3:00 pm
Fitz never lost the job in the first place
October 29th, 2018 at 3:01 pm
I listened to a lot of opinions from a lot of local heads on the radio today. Not one person gave any support at all for Winston. Kinda though it was weak to have this generic consensus opinion that nobody deviated from.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:01 pm
QBs playing well through their 40’s
RESIGN FITZMAGIC 2019!!!
October 29th, 2018 at 3:01 pm
ShutTheBucUp said, ” This also proves that koetter failed at developing jw…”.
Exactly where is the *proof* that this staff failed at coaching Winston? Because Winston is still the same player he’s been since college? That means three entirely different coaching staffs failed to change his playing style.
No, I am thinking that after this many years (and coaches) with the same issues, this is his ceiling. Every player has a ceiling. As Buc fans, we’d like to think the players on ‘our’ team, has ceilings that can only be seen with the Hubble.
Now, when you said, “… licht failed to pick the right guy.”, I am with you there. And I don’t mean Mariota. *I* was in favor of trading down, and using all those picks for defense. Every playoff game in Buccaneer history started with a great defense. Super Bowls are won with average QBs, but great defenses.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:01 pm
Calling it right here, right now Jameis Winston will be a N.E. Patriot. From there who knows what happens, but if he does go there watch out because a real coach, who knows how to control his locker room, will get the best out of this kid and we will be left saying oh man the Bucs are so stupid for letting him go. But don’t forget this is what all of you wanted. Be careful what you wish for….
Also I just love that you people really believe the Fitz is going to quote “save the season”. You people kill me.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:01 pm
We aint winning at carolina no matter who starts.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:03 pm
JimmyJack
The Bucs lack talent, they are garbage
I was saying this when everyone bragging about the ” Grand Slam”
I said that they were garbage
Jason Licht looks like a fool now
October 29th, 2018 at 3:03 pm
Yes Lakeland….We are wildly inconsistent. I could easily see some decent coaches looking at the Tampa job and thinking they can get us producing much more effectively then we are.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:03 pm
Fitz magic. …deserve better than Licht /Glazers.
I hope Fitz gets years NFL contract with Injury clause …
He deserves this,
Rescued vs @ty Bucs team Palace.
Licht is 25/46…25 W… and 46 LL…L!
It’s 2019,……Yes it Is!
If changes and house cleaning of Bucs Palace….. does not occur
You can kiss 2019 goodbye. …Now!
I hate the fugging Jersey’s,
All the coaches suck!
Glazers went for control and wrecked Manchester United.
No wonder Tampa Bay Buccaneers are screwed.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:04 pm
When I was saying that the so called ” Grand Slam” was garbage
I was getting pissed on here
Jason Licht was getting the praise for his drafting
Who is taking the piss now?
October 29th, 2018 at 3:05 pm
Guess What. JAMIES AINT TAKING THE BUCS TO THE PLAYOFF EITHER
JAMIES FANS PLEASE BUY CANADA FOOTBALL TICKET
Jamies can’t do it
No Excuses he came back from suspension and has done nothing except throw INT
Did y’all watch the game and only see the one good throw
This guy is lucky there wasn’t 7 picks
But stay with him WHY?????
October 29th, 2018 at 3:05 pm
I’ve tried to support Jameis through out his years here saying he will improve on all his mistakes in and off the field. But these direct passes to other teams is not going to win ball games and he’s not Brett Favre when it comes to picks vs. play.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:07 pm
Right now Jameis looks like another Jason Licht ” Failed” draft pick
He’s the biggest ” Loser” of all
October 29th, 2018 at 3:07 pm
Lakeland I think we have some position groups on the team that have above average talent.
We also are in a good position to revamp some of the roster for a new HC
October 29th, 2018 at 3:08 pm
A lot here are missing the point or they just feel satisfied to make a sarcasm forecasting a score or intimidating fan base, well @ Carolina can be a loss, or we don’t make the play offs …. that is irrelevant.
You can’t run a marathon when you have a flu or infection. you start there, remove the infection, get rid of JW is the first change we need.
We go from there.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:09 pm
I predict major turn around. This team finishes 10-6 now.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:09 pm
I think the “grandslam” is overrated……especially with Winston now being run out of town.
But looking at those 4 players collectively doesn’t look like garbage to me.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:10 pm
Comical how Jameis is suddenly going to be amazing if he goes to NE. He may go to NE. He’ll hold a clipboard there at best. He’s not a starting QB in this league. And before you argue, I have 4 years of film that tells me so.
Fitz isn’t saving anything because the Bucs have culture issues. Losing is so ingrained in the mentality. That’s a fact.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:10 pm
Trade Jamies McCoy and djax Gear up for the draft come on licht. See the light
October 29th, 2018 at 3:11 pm
So, it looks like Jameis is inching towards an exit. He’s probbaly secretly giddy inside, since he’ll be the next ex-Buc QB to go on and have success elsewhere and probbaly win a Super Bowl! Then I’ll laugh at every one of you clueless fans that are the ones wanting him out and will DEFINITELY be the ones saying that “we gave up on him too soon”! Fitz is a “one game at a time” QB, meaning he’ll look good one game and look like crap the next. And he’s 35 and not the future. (Chicago game cough cough) This is supposed to be JW’s evaluation year…gonna be tough evaluating him while he’s holding a clipboard. Crystal ball says we’re going down in flames, again, and will have a new coach and probably new GM next year. Start all over again! Yeah! This sucks……..
October 29th, 2018 at 3:11 pm
Troy Winston ending up in NE was always my prediction if it came down to him moving on.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:12 pm
The best thing to do is support Fitz and hope Jameis gets it together down the line.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:13 pm
Buc4Life you’re twisted man. Why would you laugh at that? It’s make me sick to my stomach
October 29th, 2018 at 3:13 pm
And people saying resign fitz to a deal are just dumb he’s playing well now but for how long. Look at the jets and the bills. They’ve already tried that!
October 29th, 2018 at 3:13 pm
Enough said Buc it. I say give Koetter next year and see what happens before we talk about firing him we do have 1 of the top offense in the NFL. I am also with you about Mariota he hasn’t really lit up the field whenever he’s healthy hopefully Fitzpatrick give us the spark did gave us before and we can at least make the playoffs and next year let’s try and find that franchise QB
October 29th, 2018 at 3:14 pm
Joe said, “Musical chairs at the position is a sure fire way to land in last place.”
Um, we already are in last place.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:17 pm
1 more year for Dirk? Wtf dude.
His friggen team better start showing up prepared on Sundays and they better Gdam start winning.
I’m not giving this moron one more of anything if his team can’t stop embarrassing the town.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:17 pm
Why the dirk hate ?? His offense is the best offense we have ever had. Can you imagine this offense if we could stop shooting ourselves in the foot ?
October 29th, 2018 at 3:18 pm
I’ve been a Winston support all the way up until this last game. Throwing 4 INTs was just the straw that broke the camels back. You can’t play like that in this league and expect to keep playing. Fitz is a savvy vet and can run the offense and get maximum benefit from the skill position players he has at his disposal, so he has to be the one taking snaps from under center until further notice.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:18 pm
JMark
Have really enjoyed your stuff the past couple of days.
Curious for some additional clarification. If we move Ryan Griffin up to Fitz’s backup…I agree btw..we HAVE to get Griffin into some games this year unless Fitz wins out and there’s no chance. But we need to know what we have in Griffin.
But here is a question. Usually only two QB’s dress…do we see JW as being on the sidelines in civvies or does he stay away from game day? Genuinely curious.
Dungy for President. Since 2020 is still a couple of years away I assume you mean President of the Bucs. LOL Am I correct?
That may be exactly the answer. Put Dungy in charge…not as HC but as President of the entire organization. I’m not diminishing Gruden’s SB but let’s face it…it was Dungy whose patience, class and consistency turned this franchise around not Chucky! Chucky won .509 of his games as a Buc’s coach TD won .563!
As HC I always missed visible fire in TD…he’s just not that guy.
But as President that steady hand is EXACTLY what this team needs.
IMHO Dungy could turn out to be our Steve Yzerman if the Glazers supported him like Lighting owner Vinik did Stevie Y.
We’re about to start the chatter about who our next coach will be. Our next GM. I think we need to concentrate on WHO will make those decisions. It should NOT be the Glazers…at least directly. Hire Tony and let him rebuild the entire organization…new GM…new coach.
Chaos everywhere! I long for some classy calm.
Help us TONY!!!
October 29th, 2018 at 3:19 pm
I sure hope they’re playing g coy with this game to game nonsense for the rest of the season to maintain some sort of trade value. If they’re serious, I would love to know who’s actually making the call.
Winston will never grow out of this. He is what he has proven to be over and over again.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:20 pm
Jameis is probably the Happiest, that this is happening,he can get out of this Hell Hole of a Franchise and fan base……LOL
October 29th, 2018 at 3:20 pm
It’s time to move on, trade Jameis, leave Fitz as the backup and give Griffin a chance, the kid has looked VERY good every time he’s been in there.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:22 pm
I’m just curious – when a guy has 75 TDs and 54 INTs, how can you possibly think he’s being “run out of town”? I think his stat line is doing that for him. I didn’t even talk about the fumbles. For cryin out loud, this is why the Bucs will never win. We accept mediocrity and futility, then make excuses for it. And no, I don’t think Fitz, or Mariota are/were the answer. It’s about not accepting poor play and losses. It’s a win-now league where demanding excellence from your franchise player is the norm.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:22 pm
To me, when I see Winston play he looks like a untrained 🐕.
He does not look like he has been properly trained and I believe a better coach could help him eliminate the stupid INTs.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:23 pm
Or maybe trade Jameis for Bortles?
October 29th, 2018 at 3:23 pm
I hope the JaMISS era is over. I didn’t want him to begin with.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:23 pm
Cal….ummm no thanks bud.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:24 pm
I wish Koetter would stop with the BS. Benching Jay-Miss is the right decision. If he keeps benching QBs then he deserves to be fired at the end of the season.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:24 pm
Cal if we lose the next 2 then OK. Put him in.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:26 pm
Can we trade Winston for Carr straight up?
October 29th, 2018 at 3:26 pm
ndog Says:
October 29th, 2018 at 3:01 pm
Calling it right here, right now Jameis Winston will be a N.E. Patriot.
And when he screws the pooch there will you finally admit he has been grossly overrated. Played only 5 games as a high school senior and perhaps only 2 or 3 high quality college games a year for two years in that ACC powerhouse. He is what he is and will always be. Cincinnati has a worse defense than us and he has a 45 QB rating – attaboy!!!.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:26 pm
I feel bad for making my wife get into this stupid team. I feel dumb for caring so much about it. At the same time I’ve had some great times with fans but god the heartbreak is so f*cking terrible with these guys
October 29th, 2018 at 3:26 pm
D-Rome this is the first time Dirk ever benched his QB if you don’t count coming back from suspension as benching.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:28 pm
JJ, I agree. Maybe Griffin starts if they lose a few more since it’s not too late to make a playoff run with Fitz’s at the helm. But once this season is beyond salvation, I’m giving Griffin every chance to prove his value, we need a QB we can trust for next year and beyond, and it’s not JW!
October 29th, 2018 at 3:28 pm
Dirk watched the tape and said no JW this week. Gives us a chance to win, no chance with JW and the turnovers.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:29 pm
Tune in sunday to not watch balls flying 10 yards above everyones head
October 29th, 2018 at 3:30 pm
Hey on the brighter side at least we are not done before Halloween.
The game in Carolina is a big game for this team. Sad thing is we are inferior
October 29th, 2018 at 3:31 pm
Troy, great comment. 75/54 says a lot. 19 wins, 29 losses — compared to Josh Freeman’s 21-27. Add on the off-field baggage, and you just can’t justify betting the farm on him.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:33 pm
I still love that pic and perhaps it tells us as much about Fitz’s relationship with the team as his great play.
He’s a FUN guy, modest and self effacing, the opposite of an egomaniac.
Jameis has always been larger than life and he doesn’t spend time toning it down. It’s pretty much been all about him not his teammates. Maybe the players simply like Fitz a LOT more personally as well as on the field.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:34 pm
Is it surprising to anyone that this was announced today and not later in the week? I think this sends the needed message to the team of “we hear you, Jameis sucks”
October 29th, 2018 at 3:34 pm
I hear ya Cal……But if your rooting for Griffen it might be more realistic to look for him in the last few games of the season.
You could also look to him to get 2nd string reps if Fitz goes down, but like you said we might have to be mathmatically eliminated for that to be an option. Or maybe not
October 29th, 2018 at 3:35 pm
Winston got exactly what he deserves. The bench. It’s an entertainment business. The Bucs are not entertaining with Winston. He’s had almost 4 years. If you haven’t gotten the dumbass out of you in that amount of time, it’s not coming out. The Bucs would be absolute idiots to invest long term into Winston after what he has shown. Fitz is obviously the short term answer. Winston is not the answer, period. Goodbye.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:35 pm
If you want to win: Start Fitz
If you want to try and save a bust from total embarrassment: Start Jameis
Koetter wants to win
Right call
October 29th, 2018 at 3:35 pm
I’m a Jameis backer but said all year you ride the hot hand – plus Winston traditionally has his worst games against Carolina. Anywho I’m not thinking Fitz will do anything except turn into the 3-INT guy we saw against the Steelers, but I’ll be more than happy to be proven wrong. Anywho for Winston he should be 2-1 right now except for a kicker, and he’ll be back there soon enough when Fitz pulls a Fitz.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:37 pm
So does this now make Fitz “America’s quarterback”?
October 29th, 2018 at 3:43 pm
Yeah Munch……The schtick on Fitz is that he don’t handle pressure well.
That was the word coming in and it panned out when he couldn’t handle the Steelers blitz and couldn’t generate anything against the Bears attack.
The Panthers can bring the heat and they got our number. I’m not sure how anybody could be optimistic heading into this week.
The only thing we could possibly hope is that Fitz bring the much needed magical spark to get the team to step up.
Hashtag Buc fan with hope.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:44 pm
Fitz=America’s Replacement
October 29th, 2018 at 3:44 pm
The clown is gone!!!!!!!!! Yayayayayayayay. I’m so happy I may grope myself.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:44 pm
I just want to know what y’all gonna do when Fitz has 5 Ints next week? I’m sure y’all will easily forgive and forget
October 29th, 2018 at 3:47 pm
Jameis out. And don’t clean house. Firing everybody doesn’t usually work wel for us. There is no point in doing that.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:48 pm
JimmyJack – I’m hoping he does well since the season is over if they’re 3-5. My expectations are nill, but who knows, I’ll be more than happy to be wrong, and unlike the Winston haters who literally rooted for the team to lose because they hate Winston so much, I’ll just be happy with the W whoever gets it. Longterm this is still Winston’s team and he’ll be back in there, but they have to win Sunday or the season is over and based on Winston’s history versus Carolina, this is probably the correct decision.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:51 pm
I understand the change, but to all you trade Winston fans, mark my word he will go to another team and light it up!!! And we won’t see a franchise QB for another generation. Congrats!!!!
October 29th, 2018 at 3:52 pm
This is a complete and total organizational meltdown- a failure at every level. Nearly everything we’ve done since drafting Jameis has centered around enabling him (both on and off the field). There’s enough firepower to score 27-30 points a game, minimally. When the hell was the last time any Bucs team demonstrated that capability!?!? Never!!! It has been pissed away Dirk’s failure to hold his pal accountable in a timely and reasonable manner. Smitty should’ve been fired in ‘17. Now couple that with an unwarranted messianic narrative about the QB, wild in his youth, now tempered by time and paternitythat the team force fed to an entire community. A QB who was handed back the starting job w/o ever earning it back. Not reall, anyway.
This isn’t a day to celebrate- this a day to loathe the continued systematic failure of this franchise and the people who run it. Jameis’ failure in an institutional failure of the highest order, make no mistake about it.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:55 pm
‘Oh Oh Oh It’s Fitzmagic you know,
Number 3 just had to go,
Next it will be Jackson on a deep throw,
Can’t wait for the Fitzmagic Show,
Will we so RoJo? Oh that Vea is so slow,
Where will wINsTon go? Who Knows,
Maybe not even welcome by the Seminoles,
October 29th, 2018 at 3:57 pm
Y’all got what y’all wanted now if fizpatrick play bad then what ? O yeah blame Winston for it . A quarter back that played 8 different teams and y’all pumped lol lol lol lol . Fizpatrick don’t care he knows his time is done. But keep getting those checks if they dumb enough to give it to you and you know you ain’t gonna win nothing then have fun on this dumb fan base and this dumb franchise. I say draft the quarterback from WV ….. New start then we will watch Jamies go win a super bowl somewhere else.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:57 pm
Munch I don’t know if this is Winston’s team long term. The way I see it, this team is oh the path to a Coaching change this off-season.
IMO the most logical and sensible decision the owners should make is to let the new HC decide what he wants to do with the QB position.
Of course the Glazers could choose to hire somebody that will or will not work with Winston…….This is one of the few times in the history of the Glazers regime where they are required to make a pivitol decision…..They usually relegate the important personally decisions.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:58 pm
Munch I don’t know if this is Winston’s team long term. The way I see it, this team is oh the path to a Coaching change this off-season.
IMO the most logical and sensible decision the owners should make is to let the new HC decide what he wants to do with the QB position.
Of course the Glazers could choose to hire somebody that will or will not work with Winston…….This is one of the few times in the history of the Glazers regime where they are required to make a pivitol decision…..They usually relegate the important personal decisions.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:59 pm
I said over and over we were a 5 win team the second they brought everyone e back from last year. Why would anyone think we would improve. Dirk can’t coach Jason can’t draft. End of story. And Winston has always been bad.
October 29th, 2018 at 3:59 pm
Sweet!!!! Double post…..Thanks good luck.
Maybe magic is real.
GO Fitmagic!!
GOO BUCS!!!!
October 29th, 2018 at 4:01 pm
Joe I think you forget we are in last place
October 29th, 2018 at 4:01 pm
Dan why exactly are you bragging about a prediction you made that is going to be wrong?
Are you a fellow daydrinker?
October 29th, 2018 at 4:03 pm
I just know that as the whole team … the talent on it is amazing we are in last place … last year and this year… the money the glazers dish out to get a winning team… all players should be ashamed … from general manager down to the water boy… it’s really sad
October 29th, 2018 at 4:04 pm
JimmyJack – It’s absolutely Winston’s team longterm, the guy should be 2-1 right now and to say you’re dumping him because he threw 4 INTs in a road game with really windy weather, that’s insanely dumb. Then again the Bucs are ran by morons. Anywho said it since the draft that Winston is what Favre was, meaning he’ll throw 4 INTs and have the ball in his hands at the end of the game with a chance to win – and had he not been pulled he would have yesterday too. That’s what a gunslinger means, it means living with the good and bad, and Winston absolutely falls into that Favre mold. Unless there are issues behinds the scenes we don’t know about he’ll be around for the next decade and if he’s not, then the Bucs are morons since he’ll go somewhere else and be a top QB for the next decade. Then again even Favre was getting all pilled up, grabbing anything that moved and sending d-pics to anyone that would ask, and he’s a HOF’er.
October 29th, 2018 at 4:05 pm
Next step is WinSTUNNED on the inactive list….if he’s still on the team Tuesday night..
October 29th, 2018 at 4:08 pm
Rod I got though your 1st sentence and you are wrong. Any time you say that somebody should have won when they lost your wrong.
Winston should be 1-2 right now.
If you wanna start telling me about couldas that’s different.
October 29th, 2018 at 4:10 pm
And yes sir……But who cares about Farve? I never thought he was all that. Ya ask me and the guy choked more then he won.
October 29th, 2018 at 4:12 pm
It’s a bucs life.. they will trade him and make another mistake.. Steve Young, Bennett,Barron, Bryant, Penn, Lynch early, Dunn, …. etc. that’s what we do. To all you thinking Fitz is answer I’ll talk to you in few weeks. Congrats, we are going to remain bottom feeders for next decade.
October 29th, 2018 at 4:14 pm
SPBF
Being a Buc Fan will make you say a lot of things…
I suggest JW be dressed in High grade Bubble Wrap, and one of those big coats players where in a snow storm, and placed carefully on the bench, so as not to cost $21M.
This assumes he’s not traded by the deadline. A safe assumption as our front office doesn’t appear to be agile. Snacks Harrison for a 5th? Detroit’s GM was pretty nimble there.
Yes, Tony for President of Football Operations. Any discussion of Dungy has huge disclaimers. First I think it’s sheer fantasy, mainly because I’m not sure what it would take for Tony to attempt it, or why he would want to. HE lives here which is huge, he’s mostly beloved which doesn’t hurt.
On the down side, I think the gig he’s got is better for what he’s doing now. There’s danger in trying to re-capture lightning in a bottle,. Of course there is always the fact that he turned around the worst franchise in sport, in all the best ways possible and was shown the door..in the rain. So maybe Tony doesn’t want anything to do with this mess.
That’s the disclaimer. Now if you want to dream…
I think what Tony and Mckay and that great scouting dept were doing was re creating the Steelers philosophy. Build from draft, retain the right people, don’t make rash decisions. Fierce Defense, serviceable Offense. For that you are a contender EVERY year. Winning SB’s starts with being a contender. Chuck Knoll.
I wish he had been given one more year, I think he would have done it. Doing it now would be incredible, amazing and highly unlikely. I don’t think our ownership could get it worked out, if they even wanted to. They don’t seem to be Vinik-like. I think the Bucs are an investment to the Glazer gang..not a whole lot more.
I would take Tony Dungy at any position. I’ve said in the past that if Dungy worked in the cafeteria, we would have 1000% more credibility than we’ve had in a long time.
Will always be thankful for what Tony and that whole particular organization did here. As a Buc Fan those were the best (and only)years of great Buc football.
October 29th, 2018 at 4:17 pm
Hamsadwitch………Just to let you know I listed to several different local Tampa radio today and a few national opinions. All in all it was over 10 different opinions and not one of them thinks Winston should be a Buccaneer next year.
The ugly pattern our media has had lately is a lack of differing opinions and the those voices I hear do affect the opinion of the fanbase.
October 29th, 2018 at 4:19 pm
Jmark it is a fantasy. The Glazers personally embarrassed Dingy by the way they fired him.
You like working for disrespectful bosses?
October 29th, 2018 at 4:22 pm
Koetters system and scheme is not QB friendly for a developing QB which JW is
JW needs more short passing routes to get him in rhythm and the ball out of his hands
Fitz is smarter than any person in the league. though physically limited, Fitz has more awareness than most elite QBs in the leauge
JW is fractured but he will continuously be bad in koetters system because…
HE CANT REGAIN HIS CONFIDENCE BACK THROWING DOWNFIELD CONTINUOUSLY
alot of sheep here dont see other NFL games. Offensive coords make their scheme QB friendly. alot of 1 read hybrid west coast offense
JW needs to get the hell away from Klueless
October 29th, 2018 at 4:26 pm
Like I said JJ,
No Love lost there. I do think if Dungy wanted one last football related challenge, turning around the Bucs for a second time would be the ultimate one.
He would be just the guy to get it done, given the time and support.
October 29th, 2018 at 4:27 pm
The part I truly don’t get is why some many Bucs “fans” are happy about Jameis failing. If you are a fan of this team how can us blowing a #1 overall pick make you happy. Heck I wanted us to draft Jameis and if we would have picked Mariotta I would have been pissed, but I certainly would have been cheering for him and if he failed I would not have been happy about it at all because just like this it would mean we are going to have to start over AGAIN!!! People are on here calling him names, making fun of him and rejoicing in the fact that our franchise is being set back another 5-10 years. I just don’t get it, I mean are you a fan of this team or what? While the guy is not perfect and has done a lot of dumb things in his life he has worked his butt off to try to become what he and all (some of us clearly) wanted him to be. He came in under extreme pressure and was not given a defense at all, a running game at all and was given a great receiving core and told go win games with this passing game and nothing else. He tried and so far (and probably is done) failed, but why be happy about that if you are a fan of the team? I just don’t get this fan base and this is just another example of why I say this is the worst fanbase in the league bar none.
October 29th, 2018 at 4:30 pm
Glad wINsTon’s contract is not guaranteed next year and we didn’t make the mistake of signing him beforehand. Once he’s gone there will be a lot less division in the fanbase and all the wINsTon only fans will move on.
October 29th, 2018 at 4:45 pm
All of you predicting JW will go to NE…….I think you are forgetting Jameis’ off field problems……you really thing with that “Indian” Senator they have….NE will pick up Jameis’?……I think not.
When you add his off-field problems to his turnovers….he will not be a popular choice for any winning franchise….perhaps he could go to another loser….
October 29th, 2018 at 4:47 pm
Fitz is good for 2 games. Either 2 straight losses or 2 straight Wins. Jameis will be back. Fitz career has been plagued by inconsistences..like Jameis. So they will go back and forth.,,trying desparately to win 8 games so Koetter can keep his job.
October 29th, 2018 at 4:57 pm
With these band of idiots, I can see a scenario where Fitz gets hurt and then JW gets hurt and the Bucs are on the hook for next year for over $21 million with a QB they don’t want but are forced to play cuz of his salary and be in salary cap hell. JW, GMC. Licht and Koetter all need to get the heck outta TB!
October 29th, 2018 at 5:08 pm
Joe said: musical chairs at that position is a sure way to land in last place! Umm WTF Joe they can get anymore in last place than they are now!
October 29th, 2018 at 5:18 pm
I believe its not all Jameis fault…the offensive line is showing that they don’t like playing for him…Fitz had all the time to throw, Jameis never had, OL kept letting defenders go by and reach Winston….watch the tape…Jameis knows this but he knows he cant mention it because it’ll be like throwing them under the bus therefore they will help him even less. (aside that I belive DJax has turned the whole locker room against him, btw, this been going on for a while and nobody talks about it) but that’s what being happening….on top if that, I believe JW3 still have a bad shoulder, his throws are not like when he started back two years ago…Nobody is doing him any favors starting with Koetter, and pls tell me who can thrive in this kind of situation?….and I know is most probably his fault …but I’m not blind…I can see the talent, and due to his competitive nature, makes a lot of mistakes because he sees this , get desperate, want to win regardless….everything is agains him here..(in a way I feel bad for him)..I’m willing to bet that if the Bucs releasing him, he’ll most probably will light it up on any other team….and the Bucs curse will live on…its a Bucs life…
October 29th, 2018 at 5:19 pm
ndog Says:
The part I truly don’t get is why some many Bucs “fans” are happy about Jameis failing. If you are a fan of this team how can us blowing a #1 overall pick make you happy.
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NOt happy at all. Been a Winston supporter since day one, wear his jersey to any Bucs game I attend whether at Ray Jay or my local pub. Believed in his innocence during the college incident and the Uber incident to the point of defending him regardless of the evidence. Wanted him to succeed like no other. But after so many let downs both on and off the field, there comes a time when you just cannot take anymore. A time when you have to take off the rose colored glasses and look objectively at this thing. Looking at his body of work in his fourth season and he is still (STILL) making rookie mistakes. How many more years does one invest in this experiment? How much time will it take for him to correct his inaccurate passing, poor decision making, etc.? I have seen enough, I am done.
October 29th, 2018 at 5:19 pm
Bucs 28. Panthers 17.
October 29th, 2018 at 5:22 pm
Iamabuc Says
(aside that I belive DJax has turned the whole locker room against him, btw, this been going on for a while and nobody talks about it)
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You are not the first person to say this and my curiosity is piqued, any insight JOE? ANY?
October 29th, 2018 at 5:22 pm
I struggle with Joe’s seamless lack of empathy for Koetter making the switch to Fitz. It’s Koetter’s regime that’s on the line, not Joe’s credibility. I, and many others who watched Jameis since he came back from his suspension are fearful every single game for his penchant for turnovers. Which will have us completely starting over next season. Koetter sees the same thing we see with Fitz. He sees a veteran QB who runs his offense better than his “gunslinger”. Although Fitz is not infallible and will commit turnovers as well, he still offers that veteran leadership that his players respond to. He has a calming effect that guys just rally around. Listen, the rah, rah, stuff is great and all, but this team needs a calm and collective field general, rather than a jacked-up cheerleader for QB.
October 29th, 2018 at 5:27 pm
JMark and JJ
I certainly take your point about the ugly split but that was two decades and two SBs ago…one for us one for Tony.
With many coaches I would agree but that’s one of the beauties of Tony….he’s not the kind of human being who holds grudges.
Perhaps the hardest part would be luring him from the great TV gig…depends if he has any fire in the belly. One thing that would make it better is that he wouldn’t get stuck in the coaching grind again.
October 29th, 2018 at 5:30 pm
Koetter had no choice. I would like to see Griffin as the #2 and once we’re totally out of the playoff picture, let’s see what he can do for a game. Jay Miss can hold the clipboard for his final games.
October 29th, 2018 at 5:32 pm
Go Fitzmagic!
I think our team sucks to begin with, so I’m kind of glad Fitzy’s back in there.
I’ll be rooting for him to succeed at the same time…. I’ll be be watching him fail…. I’ll think of this idiot fanbase and their Fitznonsense.
Season’s still young…plenty of time left for them to suck even more. With whatever QB is in there.
October 29th, 2018 at 5:32 pm
Right now Fitzpatrick is the short term answer. Once the Bucs are eliminated from playoff contention Fitzpatrick will be the #2 and Winston will probably get his last chance to see if he can turn the corner with the INT’s. That’s all the Glazers, Licht & Koetter can do. Make Winston realize that turnovers are unacceptable. Last month of the season will be telling which way this franchise goes. Unless this team finishes 7-2 it’s on to 2019 and maybe picking anywhere from 10-15. Going to cost some draft capital to move up to get a franchise QB and with a roster with so many holes that probably isn’t the preferred method. Last 4 games will be huge one way or another.
October 29th, 2018 at 5:43 pm
Jwinston and a 2nd for leveon!
October 29th, 2018 at 5:45 pm
Go Fitz. Jameis is DONE. Time air it out!
October 29th, 2018 at 5:49 pm
Fitz wasn’t benched, he was put on the shelf so they could showcase JW for trade bait. However, that didn’t work out as planned. I understand that Gruden offered the Glazers to take JW off their hands for 2 first round draft picks. The Glazers were only willing to give Oakland 1 first round pick just to be rid of JW and Oakland turned them down.
October 29th, 2018 at 5:56 pm
WE ALL KNOW THE RUTEEN….I’M GETTING USE TO IT . SWINGING DOORS…
October 29th, 2018 at 6:00 pm
I see our buddies Rod Munch and Ndog are back at it again gettin lunch drunk off the Jameis Kool-aid. I’m convinced both of you must’ve been huge Josh Freeman fans after his 2010 season and were crying when the Bucs cut him saying he was gonna succeed elsewhere. Where is he now?
Rod, man, windy weather? Seriously? The weather made Winston throw 4 picks? Lay off the sauce man. The wind didn’t seem to effect Fitzmagic at all as he throttled the same exact Bucs offense Jameis was playing with into gear and sliced the Bengals D like bread the same defense that shell shocked Jameis. Let me guess, the wind went down in the 4th quarter? And Brett Favre? Again with this nonsense every single time ANY No.1 overall pick starts to play well it doesn’t matter who it is everyone says stupid things like “well Peyton Manning this” or “Brett Favre that”. Show some pride man.
And ndog, how many times people have to explain to you that people didn’t WANT Jameis to fail. People aren’t HAPPY to see the Bucs waste a No.1 overall pick just that some fans you call “Jameis haters” could already see the writing on the wall that he wasn’t franchise QB material and now people like you are just starting to figure that out. It gets old when fans go around piping that Jameis is a star when he is in fact nowhere close. I wanted him to succeed I wanted him to win and lead us to the playoffs but for the 4th time he failed. Fans who don’t want a turnover machine as their “franchise QB” and want something better are not bad fans as you claim. Bet you will be rooting for Fitz to fail as you claim we rooted for Jameis to fail.
October 29th, 2018 at 6:01 pm
Oh and don’t worry I was a Freeman fan too.
But you know what they say:
Fool me once shame on you
Fool me twice…
October 29th, 2018 at 6:08 pm
Fitz doesn’t fix an inconsistent D and a weak right side of the Oline – DSmith looks like he is sleepwalking half the time, he just watches people run around him, lead-footed, no nastiness at all – we have exactly 2 decent OLineman
To me Dirk is one of the best OC in the business, but he is just not a HC -our offense puts up ridiculous numbers and gashes about everyone we play, but he can’t control or master the other 2 phases of the game
Its like having a CEO that only know one part of the business…
I bet Dirk would go back to being the OC if we asked him too and hired someone he got along with…
Now on the D side, BLOW IT UP and start over, our talent is a hodge-podge of inconsistent, non ball aware players less JPP
Another lost season, another rebuild needed
JW is the new Vinny, soon we will learn he is also colorblind and why he throws so many pics…
GROUNDHOG DAY
October 29th, 2018 at 6:12 pm
@Kobe
For the most part I agree with you dude. But what worries me most when it comes to Jameis’ potential success here, is that I think his teammates have started to doubt him/give up on him. Some of them probably would never say it, most probably don’t think it consciously, but their body language shows it.
It sucks, I’ve rooted for him to succeed for so long, and I thought he had finally turned the corner this preseason. He was calm, cool, collected and just slinging the rock to the open man like he is physically capable of doing. But for some reason, when he came back in the Bears game, he kinda got that real intense wide open look in his eyes again. Like the pressure was getting to him again. I think that Dirk choosing to throw Jameis to the wolves in that Bears beat down may have been what steered him in to this current rut.
I’m so torn. On one hand, I think we may have seen enough and that it’s time to move on. And on the other hand, I can’t help but think that if we let him go he’s just gonna go win a Superbowl somewhere else.
October 29th, 2018 at 6:14 pm
I don’t understand some of these headcase fans
They call Winston a bust
Then they call the “Idiot” that drafted him a genius
Where’s the logic?
Didn’t Jason Licht drafted the ” Grand Sham”?
October 29th, 2018 at 6:15 pm
@Plank…. precisely
October 29th, 2018 at 6:15 pm
DJax hasn’t even spoken to the media today, or yesterday after the game.. something weird is going on. Maybe DJax does get traded? Would like more insight on the DJax situation, also heard him and Jameis got into it.
October 29th, 2018 at 6:22 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBe7HPQEHPk
I wouldn’t even care about Jameis potentially being a bust if it weren’t for games like this…
October 29th, 2018 at 6:25 pm
Why do Bucs fans want to fire Koetter when he just installed the greatest offence in Bucs history?
He didn’t draft Jameis. You keep Koetter and give him a chance to hire a new, more effective DC.
October 29th, 2018 at 6:30 pm
Jameis or Fitz, makes no difference really, same outcome…. No defense, no kicker, no running game. Koetter is a dead man walking.
October 29th, 2018 at 7:00 pm
Shouldve never pulled him….now keep starting him…..JW is probably done here anyway and it sucks. I was hoping he would get it together.
October 29th, 2018 at 7:05 pm
Joe, We have most uneducated fan base in the history of the NFL. I agree he has regressed but remember he did miss the first 3 games. As for those who think Fitz is the answer… i wouldnt be surprised if he throws 5 picks next week in Carolina or knocked out because are line and running game stinks. This team will never be good if they keep rebuilding!!!!
October 29th, 2018 at 7:15 pm
@ iamabuc
…or could it be that Winston can’t read the defense and holds the ball for longer than Fitzpatrick? Or the fact that Winston struggles to get the air under the ball on deep throws that Fitzpatrick does so he has to wait longer for receivers to clear defenders before he turns it loose? Or maybe Winston just isn’t what all the homer’s thought he was and it’s time to set a new course for this team yet again, as sad as that us for alot of you to accept.
No, I like your conspiracy theory better, the offensive line doesn’t like Winston so they are risking their own futures and pay checks to make him look bad. What an absolutely idiotic take!
October 29th, 2018 at 7:18 pm
I am taking no joy in this either. Fandom shouldn’t be questioned here. This is just the real state of the situation right now.
The young QB that they were trying to groom cant cut it for one reason or another. Move on and salvage the season. Deactivate Winston and eliminate the distraction.
October 29th, 2018 at 7:45 pm
Koetter is simply trying to have a good reference for his next job….He’s taking marching orders from above. He’s a pros pro….who knows he was never long on this job with Winston as his project. The Glazers have a clear pattern to their ways….He wont be the exception. Dungy was fired…Gruden…Morris….Schiano…Smith….Koetter knows he’s next. Handle it like a pro and move on. That’s how you have a long career and make the most money.
October 29th, 2018 at 7:47 pm
Let me ask y’all in all of Koetter’s whole NFL coaching career name me one Quarterback he has developed. Lets see his first NFL stop started with David Garrard couldn’t make it had to draft Blaine Gabbert. I believe Gabbert was a first round QB.How successful was he. Then Dirk went to Atlanta where Matt Ryan declined and the very next year after Dirk left Ryan led the Falcons to the Super Bowl. I knew from the beginning that Koetter was a QB killer. Winston was set up to fail since day 1 under Koetter. KLUELESS KOETTER runs a predictable offense. We need a new Coach Period. One who can develop QBs.
October 29th, 2018 at 8:01 pm
DB55
“I just want to know what y’all gonna do when Fitz has 5 Ints next week? I’m sure y’all will easily forgive and forget”
That all you got?
I watched today for your take on your Dog JW….
Nothing but throwing shade on Fitz?
October 29th, 2018 at 8:15 pm
The fitz curse will never be shaken. He always finds a way to get on the field. He’s got some strong transcendental meditation going on or something visualizing his future.That would explain his calm lol
October 29th, 2018 at 8:17 pm
I think Winston’s play on Sunday was a direct result of him not trying to throw interceptions. It messed with his head and his style of play so bad he crapped the bed. His style of play invites turnovers be it interceptions or fumbles. When he was drafted it was hoped he would grow out of it. Four years later and things have gone from bad to worse. . Will he someday? perhaps. I remember Doug Williams had an arm like a bazooka. That’s how he threw every pass. Years later when he was in the SB he had developed a nice touch on his passes.
He has definitely lost the team. The average NFL career is around 4 years. Guys don’t want to wait around for him to figure this crap out. They want to win now. If it takes him three or four years to get good what will his receiving corps look like? Certainly not as good as now.
In benching Winston coach Koetter is doing the right thing in giving his team the best chance to win now. Winston will play again this year if Fitz goes down or the season is viewed as lost. In that case ownership (Winston lovers) will step in and demand Winston play “so we can see what we have”. Might play well enough to get a fifth year but that is just kicking the can down the road. In my gut they can bring in a quarterback guru and nothing will change except the year.
If I owned the team and Fitz went down I would take a look at Ryan Griffin. I think it is more important to see what we have there than to see more of what we already know.
October 29th, 2018 at 8:34 pm
I feel Winston tries to hard to make great plays cause of our team shortcomings no running game, poor blocking poor defense, lack of taking risk on 4th down or red zone. Knowing this I feel Jameis goes out trying to stick in every game before someone goes wrong that he makes countless mistakes. Remember when D Martin was leading rusher Jameis had us on the coups of the the playoffs without a 2nd receiver behind Evans. Could you imagine Jameis on the Steerlers, Ravens, Patriots he would be ball out and surely win a Super Bowl or 2. If this truly is the end it’s an absolute low for Tampa Bay
October 29th, 2018 at 9:04 pm
You people have to be kidding me! I don’t care if he through 8 interceptions in one game. If you think turning back to perennial failure Fitzpatrick over Jameis a good move, your crazy!!!!! Fitz is a solid back-up, that’s it. Ask the 10 other teams that learned that the hard way. If you want to replace Jameis, come up with a better option.
October 29th, 2018 at 9:29 pm
I have never seen so much joy on this site. I’m herring now fizpatrick can play in his 40s now he couldn’t play in his 20s talk about a losing franchise and fan base when you are the only franchise that’s happy to have fizpatrick. Lol lol lol lol lol I can’t wait to see Winston leave this poor franchise and this poor fan base.
October 29th, 2018 at 9:38 pm
But you know what I still remember when Dirk K said he didn’t want Jameis he wanted Marito. Jamies was set up to fail here with this coaching staff. Dirk know he will get another job making good money . He should have been gone last year but y all y’all got what y’all wanted.
October 29th, 2018 at 9:49 pm
Trade everyone! Fire the coaching and scouting!…..we are 3-4 for craps sake, if Jameis stays on the bench playoffs in reach. Proud Bucs fan but you are some of the most negative people with horrible ideas. The Kutt is a good coach, just needs to see Jameis will never nor can he ever help change his nature, mistakes
October 29th, 2018 at 9:53 pm
Jason Licht will still try to justify his horrible mistake of squandering the first overall pick by picking Winston by having Koetter get him back on the field as soon as possible. He will still try to make Winston the face of the franchise and the star of Tampa Bay
October 29th, 2018 at 10:03 pm
Kord go ask the falcons and go ask Matt Ryan when kotter left Matt Ryan got better with a new coach. Now look how Rayn and Freeman or playing. Dirk had Freeman playing special teams. As soon as Dirk left he became a super star the next year . That should tell y’all that you don’t know football. People just hate Winston so much they rather have a guy who played for 8 different teams . This is a losing franchise and this poor fan base. Lol lol it’s funny to me .
October 29th, 2018 at 10:03 pm
SchwiftyBuc Says:
October 29th, 2018 at 6:22 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBe7HPQEHPk
I wouldn’t even care about Jameis potentially being a bust if it weren’t for games like this…
Didn’t you know Schwifty that game never happened cause Jameis is never accurate and just turns the ball over every play. And oh yeah Fitz is the best player ever to.
Signed most of the clueless posters on this site.
October 29th, 2018 at 10:08 pm
Jameis won the Heisman and was the first overall pick in the 2015 draft, he’s in his 4th season with the same issues he had in college…..This guy is a MAJOR BUST
October 29th, 2018 at 10:41 pm
Winston gets suspended
Bucs remove him from the side of the stadium
His teammates don’t vote him a captain
He’s throwing an interception a qtr
Koetter benched him
Can’t recall any decent QB with a collapse of that caliber
October 29th, 2018 at 10:57 pm
Idaho,
Pretty sure most people don’t think Fitz is the “be all end all” but the best option at the time being.
October 29th, 2018 at 10:57 pm
Fitz never should have been benched to begin with. It was bonehead move.
October 29th, 2018 at 11:43 pm
I think I need to come over to One Buc Place & teach these idiots something about coaching. Winston wants to be the best, but he hasn’t studied what the best QBs do. He hasn’t even studied what Fitz does.
For God’s sake, throw the ball A DIFFERENT WAY. Keep your shoulders square and fire the ball out thru your forearm. Use less shoulder, MUCH less shoulder to power thru your throws. Take advantage of sidearm throws (Dan Marino, Tom Brady) wrist snap throws (DeShaun Watson) and every other kind of throw that DOES NOT rely on motion thru your shoulder.
He has tried so hard to develop “the perfect mechanics” when this does not suit his body. Of course, those kind of throws need a lot of practice to develop accuracy, but you see how even someone not as physically talented as Fitz can make those throws. Those were the kind of throws I thought Mariota may’ve been better at, but Mariota is lacking in several other departments.
It is tough business to be an elite QB in the NFL. The most important skill set, however, comes from the neck up. See the entire field, process information rapidly, and make instantaneous decisions… get the ball out quickly & accurately.
Jameis can make those small window throws down the filed 20-30 yards in the air as good or better than anyone else in the League, but so what?? There is just so much more to his “craft” that has not been developed by Koetter & Company.
October 30th, 2018 at 12:39 am
Thank god Dirk you just saved your job
October 30th, 2018 at 12:11 pm
IMHO: sitting JW is the right move. Fitz should have never been pulled in the Bears game. I believe JW lost the locker room before the season even started, I watched him closely through binoculars against the Browns to observe his mechanics. Inconsistent with his arm and feet. On the defensive side, why not try a 3-4? Personnel are there to make that work, Just
sayin. Been a fan since the beginning, but it’s getting harder to justify season tickets,