“Battle Of The Clashes”

September 28th, 2018

Will an undrafted rookie cover D-Jax?

Fun stuff here from Bears defensive coordinator Vic Fangio and a take from a Bears player.

Yes, the Bucs have racked up massive yardage and a load of points, but Fangio thinks a lot of people are forgetting the Bucs offense did this against Super Bowl contenders.

He’s right!

There’s more in the light video below from CSN Chicago, including a Bears player getting interviewed at his locker talking about how the Bucs offense against the fierce Bears defense is a “battle of the clashes.”

Enjoy! Also, but not in the video, CSN Chicago typed up a piece on how it appears undrafted rookie Kevin Toliver II will start at cornerback for the Bears on Sunday because of injuries.

Good luck, son. You’ll need it.

32 Responses to ““Battle Of The Clashes””

  1. Slugglife Says:

    Let’s see how many times the Bears D apologizes to Fitz after smashing him. Probably won’t happen, because their D has a certain ferocity that ours seems to lack.

  2. SB Says:

    I laughed so hard two yrs ago when some media type said Jared Goff was better than Jameis Winston.
    I’m not laughing anymore. Those were some of the most beautiful passes I have ever witnessed last night.

  3. Sunday_44 Says:

    Yeah and I love how the media said the Eagles were geniuses for moving up to get Wentz after Goff went.

    Now the Rams are proving why they got Goff. What a talent.

    Gurley might be right. They truly may not lose this year.

    Aaron Donald and Suh sure looked like they stepped up when needed.

    Where was our Golden D Line when called upon.
    Dirk never punts again in that situation. IMO

  4. Architek Says:

    A lot of these young quarterbacks have surpassed Jameis. Jameis needs to win badly and start to show the promise he came out of FSU with. I can name multiple young qbs that I would have throwing the ball with more accuracy and precision and better decision making every Sunday. This is a critical year for the Bucs franchise quarterback.

  5. AlteredEgo Says:

    BINGO ^^^^ Architek……..I’d love if Jameis had more than his “stats”…we’ll know for sure by the time this season is over….if Jameis continues with his on field flaws, anf his wining percentage reverts to his norm….he’ll be gone

  6. jjuice 32 Says:

    Regarding Goff it is amazing what an energetic, innovative coach can do for an offense. Meanwhile Smitty continues to use the same dull schemes, that have no chance to be successful.

  7. TBTemojin Says:

    @Architek Is one of them named Marcus Mariota??? Love how the MM Fan boys have disappeared. Jameis hasn’t taken a snap this year and already has a better QBR then that turd. LOL. QB play isn’t this teams problem both Fitz and Jameis can get it done, Mike Smith needs to be replaced mid-season! He is inexcusably terrible.

  8. orlbucfan Says:

    Fitzster will start Sunday if he clears medical evaluation. Fameis will see action, too. Winston is salivating to get a shot at QBing this rapidly blooming explosive O. daBears D/team won’t know what hit them. 3-1.

  9. Grt1 Says:

    Give Jameis Gurley and then you’ll see.

  10. Bucman0620 Says:

    I didn’t watch the entire game but I am going to point out three passes that if there was a difference of 8 inches between the three it would have been three interceptions. I seen Goff throw two passes right over Peters and a LB that honestly missed their fingers by an inch if that much. Two different times and one of them went for a touchdown (Peters). The other pass I want to bring up is the PA roll out that he threw on the run for a TD to Kupp into double coverage. Now I’m not trying to take anything away from Goff. I think he has shown great touch and great poise. But the reason I bring this up is because if you realize that there is not one passer that will ever be so accurate that they can put it in the exact spot every time than you will realize that even Goff could have had a great let down last night. He easily could have a had a three interception night. If that would have been the case, would you say he folded under pressure? Would you wonder why all the hype about him is out there. We are talking mere inches between three passes. My point is, Jared was not better than Jameis two years ago. I don’t even think he is better than him now. Jameis came to a very bad team with very few pieces in place. Jared went to a team with one of if not the greatest offensive minds in the game (remember Mcveigh is the reason Kirk Cousins is getting paid so much). I think with this offensive line doing a better job blocking, and a middle of the pack run game (got to figure out how to run the ball) Jameis will emerge as a Top 3 QB in the league. Just my opinion.

  11. SteveK Says:

    Per an article on yahoo/PFT: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/ryan-fitzpatrick-outplaying-jameis-winston-153105931.html

    In the six games started by Fitzpatrick, the Bucs are 4-2. In the six games started by Winston, the Bucs are 1-5. Winston has averaged 275.2 yards per game and thrown nine touchdown passes. Fitzpatrick has averaged 329.2 yards per game and thrown 14 touchdown passes.

    But the passing numbers aren’t even the area where Fitzpatrick most outshines Winston. What Fitzpatrick does far better than Winston is recognize the pass rush, get rid of the ball before the rush arrives, and protect the ball when he can’t get rid of it. That’s why Winston has been sacked 22 times and fumbled seven times over his last six games, while Fitzpatrick has been sacked just eight times and fumbled zero times over his last six games.

    If Buccaneers coach Dirk Koetter were to go to Winston now, he’d be choosing the lesser of his two quarterbacks. The 24-year-old Winston may have a long future as the Buccaneers’ franchise quarterback, but the best quarterback on the roster at present is Fitzpatrick.

  12. Ed Says:

    It’s great to watch offenses that throw the ball north and south to receivers running towards the end zone instead of watching teams who is receivers are always coming back to the ball or running sideways to catch it and going Outabounds

  13. Darin Says:

    Exactly. Great coach McVay is. People underestimate coaching. Thats why i wanted Dirk gone, there are others out there just gota find them. But now that Dirk had handed over play calling he’s getting there. Yep gota find a defensive coordinator who is up with the times.

  14. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Slugglife Says
    “Let’s see how many times the Bears D apologizes to Fitz after smashing him.”

    Okay, this is just stupid.

    McCoy apologized because Ben had already gotten rid of the football and he could not avoid hitting him because of momentum. By apologizing, he was hoping the ref would not call a penalty. Incidental type of thing. It didn’t work.

    So McCoy isn’t soft. And, by the way, you people who mock him for being nice obviously have not been fans long, because the first player the Bucs ever drafted did the exact same thing. AND he helped players up.


  15. Bucsfan77 Says:

    Why do people keep using statistics using last year’s games between Fitzpatrick and Winston to prove that Fitzpatrick is a better QB when half of stats for Fitzpatrick comes from 3 games this year that Winston did not have the ability to play behind the same offensive line in the same play calling. Before you start comparing who is better you have to have equal sample size of equal satistics in a equal Baseline

  16. JabooBuc Says:

    I have to admit, after seeing Goff that first year, i thought he was not long for this league. However, this kid is dropping dimes now and he throws one of the prettiest balls you will ever see. Imagine him here with these WR’s.

  17. LakeLand Says:

    People actually think the Bears will allow Fitz to stand in the pocket and pick them apart? The Bears will be bringing heat from that 3-4 defense. Moving players around on that front seven.

  18. mdsbuc Says:

    Bucsfan77 Says:
    September 28th, 2018 at 10:50 am
    Why do people keep using statistics using last year’s games between Fitzpatrick and Winston to prove that Fitzpatrick is a better QB when half of stats for Fitzpatrick comes from 3 games this year that Winston did not have the ability to play behind the same offensive line in the same play calling. Before you start comparing who is better you have to have equal sample size of equal satistics in a equal Baseline
    Last year, with the same line, receivers, etc., didn’t Fitz win 66% of his games started, while Winston won only 3 of 13, just 23%?

  19. BucEmUp Says:

    Who wants to put a bet down that our defense let’s Mitch trubiskt pass for the most yards to date in his short NFL career?

  20. INSPIRED Says:

    I’ll tell you what’s fair to use as a base line between the quarterbacks. How about we use it for ALL QB’S in the NFL! Seems to me that Jameis Winston OUT THREW “ALL” Quarterbacks in the entirety of ANY football ON THE PLANET! You want a baseline….. YOU JUST GOT ONE!!! GO BUCS!!!!!!!

  21. INSPIRED Says:

    Sorry, got a little upset. “IN PRESEASON” is what I’m referring to…… GO BUCS!!!!!

  22. INSPIRED Says:

    NO ONE CAME CLOSE TO HIM IN “PRESEASON” That is the only baseline possible. And with that said, the results are already in…. NO MORE DEBATE. It’s time he gets his Football team back and if Dirk and the organization thinks they are cute for too long. It Will Cost Us ALL! CLEARLY some people LIKE TO BE ABUSED IN THE BASEMENT! And they have a technical term for it. You may have heard of it and it’s known as STOCKHOLM SYNDROME….. I don’t want to be a constant loser with you type of “folks”. We have groomed him and BOW HE OWES US! It’s time he pays up and he’s Willing, Ready, and ABLE! So LETS DO THIS! GO WINSTON, GO BUCS!!!!

  23. DavidBigBucsFan99 Says:

    Exactlty Joseph! Even though it was a tuff night out on Monday they still put up good yardage and points. Look forward to seeing can our coaches make adjustments BEFORE we get 23 points down.

  24. 2002WasALongTimeAgo Says:

    Bears coach realizes that our first 3 games were the toughest 3 game stretch in NFL history, but Fitz is the only QB in history with 3 consecutive 400 yard games, too.
    Jameis looked better in preseason than he had, but I actually cheered the time he took a sack. He later reverted to throwing to Godwin as he was falling. Thank God, Godwin bailed him out.
    I was okay with promoting Koetter, but Smith always reminds me of the Bucs guaranteed wins against Falcons a few years back. His defense still is cring worthy.

  25. Buc1987 Says:

    “forgetting the Bucs offense did this against Super Bowl contenders.”

    Yes but Licht sucks….

    Yes but Koetter sucks…

    Where the hell is Rojo and Vea….they suck…

    We’re supposed to be 0-3….but we’re 2-1 and fans are still WHINING!

    They didn’t beat the Browns and Bengals….but contenders….keep whining. It’s the JBF way!

  26. Buc1987 Says:

    If this team was 3-0….they’d still b*tch Joe.

    Good effing grief…..

    Ya wanna go back to the Schiano days and start the season 0-8? You whined then too, so did I for good reason….but now?????????????????????????????????

  27. GP Says:

    Gas the Bears defense with hurry-up short play offense
    The Packers showed us how to beat this defense

  28. ndog Says:

    SteveK that article is misleading as it includes this year and you have no idea what Jameis would have done this year with a completely different style playcaller and Godwin and Howard playing much more and a revamped oline. Apples and oranges but people like yourself who have an agenda are going to lap up a weak article like that like kittens lap up milk. All you can do it compare stats from last year and even those aren’t all that great cause Jameis had a hurt throwing shoulder pretty much all year. You can believe what you want but if you think the guy we just watched throw 3 picks in 3 throws once he finally saw pressure is better than Jameis then what are you drinking cause we should all have some.

  29. BuccoDav Says:

    I’m not against Jameis, I hope he succeeds here… But I remember during the debates on whom the Bucs should draft, Many posters, including the Joes, said all we needed was a franchise QB and Jameis was the guy…
    “All he does is win.”
    “He’ll make everyone around him better.”
    “This is a passing league.”

    Now some are trying to say “give him Gurley and see what he can do.”
    If you have Pro Bowlers at every position, WTH do you need a franchise QB for? Apparently, any journeyman QB can win with that type of talent. (Fitz…)

  30. Buc1987 Says:

    BuccoDav…the talent has been placed here FOR Jameis. Cause when he was drafted all they had was Evans and an aging Vjax.

    They went and got DeSean, OJ, Godwin etc for Jameis….take them away and you’re left with Hump and Brate. I see your point, but what would Fitz’s numbers be without DeSean OJ and Godwin? Winstons toys. They WERE brought here FOR Jameis. He got to play a partial season with them…..stay tuned I guess.

    Still need a running game though. Some kind of one. 1/2 decent D wouldn’t hurt either.

  31. DavidBigBucsFan99 Says:

    I like what GP said. Buc1987 hit the nail on the head and so did ndog.

  32. BillM Says:

    I thought Fitz looked tight (nervous) right from the get go against Pit. On his first few passes he missed open receivers badly. Thru one pass in the dirt. Never really settled down until the second half. Stood in tough the second half. Made his throws and got back up after numerous hard hits. Hope he starts off better against the Bears and finds his rithym early.