“Does Winston Understand What He’s Done Wrong?”

July 21st, 2018

For years, America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, has been very quick to say that he likes being coached hard. He wants that raw and rough feedback from all his coaches.

Jameis doesn’t get offended, he says. It’s the business of football and he loves having someone riding him to get better.

But does Jameis want that from his handlers, aka his agent and the various people guiding the messages Jameis puts out in the community and how they’re perceived? Joe’s not sure.

What is clear, though, is that one could make a great case that everyone associated with Jameis has done a substandard job shaping public perception of him. They have not been talented enough to overcome a player who seems to be a magnet for the negative spotlight.

Currently, Jameis is going through the process of finding a new agent, and NFL insider Mike Florio of ProFootballTalk.com and NBC Sports spoke about how Jameis might want to find representation that’s willing to be very candid with Jameis about his behavior. (It’s all in the video below)

Florio seems unsure that Jameis understands the gravity of his past actions and what he must do to repair his reputation.

“That’s going to be one of the keys going forward: does Winston understand what he’s done wrong and is he committed to avoiding anything that would remotely justify the kind of criticism that he’s received over the years,” Florio said.

69 Responses to ““Does Winston Understand What He’s Done Wrong?””

  1. Pete I Says:

    America’s Choir Boy, the turnover toucher, is never at fault, he’s enabled…Don’t Joe and Florio Know that?

  2. stpetebucsfan Says:


    IMO it’s clear that Jameis IS cool with tough coaching on the field. But off the field not so much.

    The saddest part of Ubergate is that it was a totally unforced error!!! How did his handlers let him get caught out at 3AM with Darby and the rapist. Where were the bodyguards to protect him. Where was the guy who could “Shelton Quarles” him and drag him back to the Limo when things were not right?

    I obviously do not know…totally clueless. Did his handlers not understand Jameis? Did he ignore them?

    Yeah it doesn’t really matter in the end. But in the end I echo Florio. I do not judge Jameis but I am entitled to have an informed opinion based on factual evidence. I am NOT saying anything about Jameis specifically…no name calling over he said she said allegations…but I can’t help it…I no longer trust him.

  3. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    Jameis is an idiot

    All that God Given talent…..but he’s still an idiot

    hence all the boneheaded plays he makes on the field…….sucks the bucs can never get it right when picking a Franchise QB

  4. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    Years and years from now Bucs fans will lament not taking Mariotta…..

    and no….I’m not a Mariotta fan either but atleast he’s not embarrassing the franchise

    Jameis will never stop being who he is….and that’s an idiot with psychological problems towards the opposite Gender

    He’ll be licking his “W’s” while lamenting about Crotch grabbing when the League Finally suspends him indefinitely in the next five years

    But hey…maybe he’ll change (i doubt it)

    like advice I give to kids getting married “you’ll never change all the things you don’t like about your future spouse….remember that”

  5. Bird Says:

    He won’t do another stupid thing? Right? After everything this far ?

    If he does another stupid thing after being a father and husband , well God help us all!

    One more strike and he is gone forever.

  6. ben Says:

    as a season tkt holder -He will never be America’s qb (insult to nfl fans) and Bucs should move on.

  7. Tom Edrington Says:

    We shouldn’t judge others, I think it is fair to say from this point and time forward, let Jameis’ actions on and off the field speak for themselves…only Jameis knows what’s goin’ on in that noggin of his…..

  8. Destinjohnny Says:

    Cost himself sooooo much money
    Good thing about this one incident is that it is the only time he ever done something like this….

  9. ChipBuc Says:

    Man all the haters are out in force today. As much as you guys hate Winston, if he has a good season and stays out of trouble this year, he most likely will be here next year and years to come. Just saying.

  10. Not there yet Says:

    How public people embarrass themselves….. And I mean Florio! The guy hasn’t talked the podium to speak and because he’s now looking for a new agent (something we’ve known for weeks) this is the question asked and it’s based on what the drama created by his trainers t shirt. And some people just don’t understand the word hater and to the media writing stories for clicks. I had to delete their app, they’ve never written one single positive story about Winston even on field after a great game and despite what people try to say he’s had quite a few.

    Whether he did it or not doesn’t matter anymore because of public perception but I’d love it if he proceed all the critics wrong just to see them flip flop and of course for wins

  11. Defense Rules Says:

    This is your best defense of Jameis in awhile Joe. If I understand the argument, Jameis’ HANDLERS were responsible for the HANDLING, not Jameis. Actually, if Jameis had kept his hands to himself … nah, never mind. Too easy.

  12. jmarkbuc Says:

    I’m sure you’ve all seen this by now… if Joe let’s the link stay up


    Couple of interesting things:

    1. Gives perspective on varying degrees of what a grope is, to me Jw’s has to be worse than this guy’s
    2. To my mind makes Kate pretty cool person. What if she had done what this girl did? Sexual battery charge and takes her spin in the news cycle.

  13. BrianBucs Says:

    Winston is a grown man and is responsible for his own actions. Period.
    However, if he keeps surrounding himself with “Yes” people and his criminal friends he may not get the guidance he needs.
    Some people just don’t “Get It” and so far Winston has proven to be one of those people. Or he could just be so self-center, cocky and arrogant that he thinks he can just do anything he wants and get away with it. You have to remember his favorite saying – Lions are not concerned with the opinions of sheep.
    If Winston hasn’t “gotten it” by now, he probably won’t ever.

  14. Orlampa Turd Says:

    It’s easy to blame Jameis’ “handlers” and enablers or to claim that he is simply an idiot (I don’t think he’s dumb). I personally believe that he may have some legit mental health issues that not only contribute to his impulsiveness, but also his unique ability to compartmentalize everything and play well while under scrutiny (think last December or the 2013 championship run). Remember that Brandon Marshall has had his share of battles with ugly allegations and mental health issues. But once he got help, he was able to have a long, successful career while also scoring some media gigs on the side. Hopefully the psyche evaluation the NFL is making him go through will shed some light on things and help him get his sh!* together.

  15. Jeffbuc Says:

    You guys keep acting so sure Jameis knew that Ronald Darby’s friend was a rapist or was accused or convicted of anything the night they were hanging out. He might have had no clue what or who the guy was, or going to be convicted of it wasn’t his friend it was Darby’s friend. But it’s easy to fit your narrative that he was choosing to hang out with a convicted rapists. That wasn’t at the time. Haters

  16. meh Says:

    Of course not. He just lies about what he’s done and expects to get away with it.

    Cut him.

  17. stpetebucsfan Says:


    We hear what you are saying. But if he messes up one more time…or is it two…or and endless number of times.

    Chip it’s not about hating…in fact I feel sorry that all that hero worship and his pooop doesn’t stink adulation seem to have spoiled an otherwise nice guy.

    But the bottom line is that you have FAITH in his behavior despite his resume full of numerous headline grabbing scrapes…I do not. That’s not hating..it’s not judging…it’s making an informed decision about how to proceed going forward.

    Time will tell which side of this debate is correct. Right now it’s just speculation.

  18. Walter Seidel Says:

    “Does Winston understand what he’s done wrong?” HELL, the better question is………do the BUCS and BUC FANS (especially the FSUers) understand what he’s done wrong??? Apparently not. “Oh, he hasn’t done anything wrong since March 2016″…..right. As far as you know. You don’t know though. Probably said the same thing about him about his last multiple eff-ups in Tallahassee. No, I am not a hater. I’m a realist. If you hate reality, I can’t help you.

  19. Lamarcus Says:

    Roc Nation baby

    I don’t care what he did or trying to NOT understand. I’mma a FOOTBALL fan not fan of how grown live their life ……but my own.

  20. JameisNOT Says:

    @walter: you are 100% correct. This clown did not realize that he did so many wrong at Free Shoes University. He will be in County Orange soon enough.

  21. Seminole Bill Says:

    If Jameis needs a “handler” to tell him what he has done wrong, and to keep him out of trouble in the future, he is almost destined to fail again in the future.

    If that is the case, cut him.

  22. JMan5 Says:

    He doesn’t. He’s privately telling people he’s innocent.. he’s so out of touch you can’t trust a guy like that. Enabling made kellen, Aaron H, Darren s and Big Ben What they are.

    Bucs need to be careful.

  23. JMan5 Says:

    Lamarcus I understand being a football fan but out of touch narcissistic sociopathic behavior eventually wells up and rots the team. Ask out the door Licht and KOetter

  24. Buc believer Says:

    I think one of the stupidest things he can do is listen to all these goober fans we have in Tampa. According to the way they think they are perfect and have NEVER Adobe anything wrong. He who has no sin let him cast the first stone.

  25. ATrain Says:

    Has the question been answered why Winston left his agent
    Or his angebt left him?

    And Why??

    Would be interesting to know the truth

    Winston’s action have been ignored because of his talent so NO he doesn’t care about what happened just what is his contract going to be

    What message it would send to players if Winston was told your actions will get you kicked out
    Any other job would

  26. BigMacAttack Says:

    Survey says:
    Show me the money!

  27. BigMacAttack Says:

    I have this signed Jameis Winston NCAA Championship photo.
    So what do you want for it?
    I’m looking for $2500.
    I’ll give you $20.
    Yeah okay, I can do that.

  28. Dooshlarue Says:

    All this talk about “ handlers “……

    Funny, but before this JW “hassle “ the only time I heard that term used was in regards to circus or zoo animals.

  29. Roy T. Buford Says:

    Joe wrote: “What is clear, though, is that one could make a great case that everyone associated with Jameis has done a substandard job shaping public perception of him.” Vomit time on that one! The most basic things the youngest children learn at the earliest age: You don’t go around grabbing people in their privates, and you don’t lie. No, not talking “white lie” like “this food is just fine” or “I think you look good in that dress.” Major, lie-to-those-who-count-on-you lies. If you are 18, 20, 22, 24 years old and you do things like that, the issue is not someone didn’t make you act right. It is that you REFUSE or WON’T act right. And Winston is supposed to be guy who was brought up religiously–so the story goes. Let’s be clear. Winston does what Winston wants to do. On the field and off the field. That clearly makes Koetter crazy. But how does 99% of the population that is 20-24 years old manage to abide by simple basic rules of common decency? How about NFL players? Most don’t go around grabbing stangers’ genitals while they are working and concocting big cover ups. Good lord, it would be a stake through the heart of his career if Winston were dense enough to suggest as an excuse someone else didn’t do their jobs. It already seems he’s blamed alcohol (which is NO excuse). Sorry, disagree…no great case to make at all.

  30. BigMacAttack Says:

    “Drew, Jameis is on line 1.”
    “Jameis, Jameis, I’m your guy, but I get 25%.”
    “Seriously Bruh, we gotta get you outta Tampa.”
    “I’m hungry for some W’s”.
    “I got you doe. I’ma pimp you to the Jags and then sell you to Miami. Think of it, South Beach, Brights lights and real hoes everywhere. Just do what I tell you and we’ll get Tampa to cut you and then it’s on. You feelin me Jameis?”
    “Yessir Mr. Rosenhaus. Let’s do this!”

  31. Roy T. Buford Says:

    So do some think that somehow Jameis didn’t know well beforehand what he was doing that night, before he left his hotel, before he took his first drink, and drunk or not before he grabbed the drivers’s goods, and before he told his FIRST lie about the thing between two years ago and a just weeks ago (he may still be lying)….are some really suggesting he’s just that stupid he didn’t know?

    I differ…he is well smart enough, but I am suggesting he just doesn’t care. He has lots of experience with people coming to his aid (paid or not) when he messes up, helping him get out of pinches, and him putting on a face like he cares and wants to be good. Winston is a BS artist, and some still buy the BS. THAT is ONE problem. I think he’s also well smart enough to intentionally deceive the folks that should matter most to him: his team mates, his owners, his fans…and I don’t know…probably his family. The only problem–it didn’t work this time.

  32. Roy T. Buford Says:

    And consider: The only “hating” being done is by Winston. He seems to hate women, those he knows and doesn’t know….he hates honesty, he also hates his owners, his coaches, his players, and his fans…because he’s wronged ALL of them….more than once.

  33. Lamarcus Says:


    I know what he did or didn’t do was a totally botch by everyone involved. I get that part. But for me to judge and sentence another man or his behavior is hypocritical at best. I do Jw things but damn. You guys are more like “gotcha” type of complaining and name slaying than just genuinely hate he touched a girl doing her job or whatever. If u guys are so social angels than why the world is F upped???

  34. TheBucsAnthem Says:


    You’ll never convince these dumb Jameis loyalists to see things realistically…….. They live in an world of entitled and spoiled millennials.

    If Jameis was just a normal guy…. He’d be locked up on charges….

    But no….. I’m done with this lying clown….. I could careless if wins the SB with the bucs…. He can’t be trusted and needs psychological help.

  35. Not there yet Says:

    Joe where did all these ignorant arrogant football Nostradamus fans come from who think that because they read opinion articles they know so much. Someone asks the question to if he think he realizes without him having a chance to talk about it publicly and they say no like you idiots know. Did something else happen in the last 2.5 years off field that I don’t know about? This was 2 years ago and you idiots listen to someone ask that question and you eat it up. Joe please weed out the morons when the season starts.

    JMan5 Says:
    July 21st, 2018 at 12:22 pm
    He doesn’t. He’s privately telling people he’s innocent.

    If you were accused of this at work and it’s he said she said and you were in management, decided to take the suspension instead of putting your company in that kind of spotlight. If you didn’t do it or even if you did, you mean you wouldn’t say you were innocent to anyone? Some of you are so slow. Claiming innocence if you’re in the public eye is just common sense unless you like being sued for admitting to something like this. Let the man speak and judge his words for yourself stop being led around like sheep. Damn there are some really slow people in this state.

  36. Buccfan37 Says:

    Holier than thou out the woodwork. Grabbing involves clutching fingers, different than laying a hand on. A simple case of a momentary lapse of reason. Nobody got hurt, nobody died, blown up into the day the Earth stood still.

  37. BigMacAttack Says:

    I could care less about Jameis or any other player. I just want to win. A lot.

  38. SB Says:

    @Jmark……I tried to put that link up yesterday but Joe wouldn’t let it stay.

  39. Roy T. Buford Says:

    @BucsAnthem…yeah….I know…what’s funny are those who say he just grazed his fingers…oh, that’s it. Nothing wrong with sexually grazing the genitals of strangers while they work. LOL. Wait. I thought he didn’t touch her at all? They can’t get their story straight.

    The NFL did. He’s busted. He can’t be counted on. Hope he wins games when he’s in this year for fan sake and then hope he’s gone. Let him be someone else’s problem…if he’s not already.

  40. Roy T. Buford Says:

    @Bucfan37….no “holier than thou” here. Get it through your head. Folks pay money to see their team play. When the said leader, face of the team, and QB gets himself suspended and we paid top dollar to watch the backup play…that’s wrong. He screwed all.

    Do you buy a product and then the guy you pay isn’t dependable? Can’t be trusted? Can’t do the work…are you stupid enough to keep bringing him back?

    Maybe you are. Not me.

  41. AlteredEgo Says:

    Jameis doesn’t need an agent… he can slot his own contract and pocket the agent commission…. he won’t be getting any endorsement offers so what would the agent be doing? He needs a psychological mentor and a financial adviser…. curious for a poll… who will sign The bigger contract Jameis vs Marcus re dux…

  42. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Has anyone considered that he is telling his friends and teammates that he is innocent because he actually is innocent?

    Do we really have to delve into the past comments to show that everyone here knew he would get suspended whether he was guilty or innocent? The NFL suspended him, and because the rule requiring him to notify the team of the incident was not yet in place, they had to say it was for the actual accusation.

    The NFL reviewed everything, yet they could find no actual proof. If they had, they would not have felt the need to negotiate.

    He did not lie about the number of people in the car…if it was a lie, then Darby told the lie, not Jameis. And frankly, Banks (who is facing 15 years for rape) claims there was only Jameis and Darby says all three were there. Why would Banks lie?

    Because if all three were there, he was the one in the front seat, which means he is the guilty party. It would be used against him in his rape case, so he claimed he was not there. Period.

    Even if it were just Jameis, that does not mean Jameis is guilty. You all say he lied. When exactly did he lie? If he really is innocent, then he has not lied.

    But all of you (or most) are willing to assume the worst of him. Accusations were made, nothing was proven, and yet you all assume he is guilty.

    Answer me this: does Kate have a history of making false accusations?

    No one knows, because no one can investigate her because her real identity is a secret. If she really wanted to take a stand against such behavior, she would have come forward. Just what does she have to hide?

    Can anyone here be honest? If Winston had not been accused of rape in college, would you be making a big deal now? If you were not FSU haters, would you?

    Since the rape charge was thrown out 4 times by judges, they obviously cannot be held against Jameis.

    One year ago, most of you were on his side. Since nothing has been proven, nothing about him has actually changed. Grow up, people.

  43. Oneilbucs Says:

    Man y’all still talking about this? Why y’all let these teams control y’all life. I’m a football fan to . I’m not God . Y’all realy don’t know if Winston did anything wrong. So every body know y’all just hate Winston. All I care about right now is the bucs wining games. He didn’t kill any one or rape any one. Get over it. I wish white people would care about black people the same way they hate Winston . Or the same way they so call love the national anthem. That’s what need to be talked about.

  44. JimmyJack Says:

    One of the tough things about our QB is that(by all accounts) he does all the hard work that you need from a QB. Plus some.

    He is extremely dedicated on the field. While the results haven’t always been there it seems like a matter of time when you factor in arm talent and work ethic.

    We see football players overcome off field stuff every year. It’s usually the guys who show a lack of effort on the field or in practice that are the most detrimental.

    None of this is going to matter if he’s lost trust from he’s locker room. It doesn’t matter what the media thinks, it don’t matter what we think or even what the owners think(to a degree). None of us can change anything on the field. What the players think means everything and if they are not behind Winston this season is only going one way. Downhill

  45. JimmyJack Says:

    Every year you guys cry about our schedule. Each and every year without fail.

    Face it guys. It’s been over a decade and the facts are in. It hasn’t been the schedule this whole time. The Bucs have actually been bad for that long.

    Maybe this year we field a good team and get us a winning record. And when that happens it won’t be about overcoming a hard schedule. It will be about the Bucs actually playing good football.

  46. BucsLife Says:

    I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt at this point that he has matured. He is getting married and has a kid on the way. I remember being a bit of a wild child until I got married and started a family! He seems to have straightened things out the past few years. I still have faith in him and can see him hoisting the Lombardi Trophy for his Bucs someday sooner than later.

  47. Dapostman Says:

    My take is if YOU are not a Jameis Winston fan or YOU can not support the Bucs while Jameis Winston is in the game at QB well then DON”T GO OR DON”T WATCH the games until Winston is gone. The Bucs are going to do with Winston what the Bucs want to do. It’s funny to read the posts that are from the people who think the Bucs should cut him. My question is if you think the Bucs should cut him can YOU cut him out of your life while he’s playing for the Bucs? That means NO Bucs games for YOU at the stadium or on TV. Put up or shut up. The same old posts from the same people every Winston article. MEH!

  48. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Jameis has one chance. His next move should be to retain Randy Moss.

    There’s a guy who literally showed his arse to the fans yet managed to reclaim some reputation with improved behavior later in his career. That and the fact that Moss is one of…perhaps THE…greatest WR of all time. Jameis has a long way to go on the field to get that benefit of the doubt.

  49. JMan5 Says:

    Lamarcus a big problem I have with him is he lied to the people that have his back every day and his fan base. That should bother people more than it does. If he has changed then why didn’t he sack up and avoid lying. At the very least keep his mouth shut.

  50. JMan5 Says:

    Bucslife if he has matured why did he lie all the way up to now?

  51. Roy T. Buford Says:

    @JMan5…what’s up with that link? Didn’t that guy just kind of graze his fingers on her backside? She was clearly flirting with him, holding that tray and looking away and doing something else. Oh, she probably wanted it. That guy was probably just drunk. Doesn’t everybody try to cop a feel on a chick now and then? She didn’t like it and he didn’t do it anymore. How do we know he did it. That video doesn’t prove anything. She’s just a golddigger. It’s not like he held his hand there for 3 seconds or anything. They just went after him because he’s white. What other stupid things might justify what happened there?

    And oh yeah…dude’s arrested for sexual battery. For the folks here who just don’t get it regarding what the NFL determined Winston did. Thanks for posting that.

  52. DalvinCookRules Says:

    As a lifelong vocal supporter of Winston who has recently turned on him, I can tell you, the kid needs SERIOUS help. He has to understand that he just cannot get away with lying. He has to know who to surround himself with and who not to. He has to have a GOOD agent who knows how to promote & protect his name brand & public image. Winston really still does not get it, in my opinion. He has no idea how thin the ice is under his feet, and when it breaks, he is going to be so deep in cold water that his career will just not survive it…. he still seems like “oh it’s not a big deal and I can easily move forward from this”–YOU CAN’T JAMEIS. Not easily, it will take lifelong achievement both on and off the field.

  53. Roy T. Buford Says:

    @Jmarkbuc… ^^^^^^^ That is for you, not JMan5…sorry…

  54. nole4jabooandDbucs Says:

    Oh my gosh, you people get on my freakin nerves! The way you make it sound that the college kid who caught ketchup in a cup, shot a darn BB gun, did not go behind the counter and take the crab legs but took the same hook up that most athletes, politicians and people on this site have and will take if you were popular enough to get a hook up, he on campus hollered a sexual profanity that the YOUNG FOLKS were chanting and yes the QB got laid by a white girl who after talkin with her friends screamed rape and when she was checked she had deposits from her boyfriend and JW’s was found I think on her not in her

    And that horrible reputation from his college days left the same. QB open for another easy accusation. I just can’t believe the people on here is that pure and gullible or is it because it was the same group of people who let a white woman accuse a 14 year old Emmitt Till of looking at her sexually and he was brutally killed.

    And years later she admitted to lying!
    You are pissed with Jameis because he won’t ACT GUILTy.!!!😵😈😱
    Why would he?

  55. stpetebucsfan Says:


    Stop obsessing on these poor women. First of all there is a decent to good chance that Fameis actually did grab Kate. We weren’t there so NEITHER side…including yours has to worry about the “sex” charges.


    On the field…he got ME suspended and heaven knows how long he would have been suspended had Shelton Quarles not saved his career as he headed for an official with that wild eyed out of control look.

    Off the field…accused of rape…investigations and he jumps on a table and yells FHITP.

    The first off season he’s out partying with questionable characters so drunk he claims he blacked out…IE he doesn’t really remember if he grabbed her or not.

    Again…even if he didn’t he should NOT have placed himself in that position. Football is entertainment…it’s affected dramatically by PR…Jameis has been a true PR disaster. If anybody needs to grow up it’s not we who object to rank Forrest Gump level stupidity…it’s the idiot doing it!!!!

  56. ATrain Says:


    HAHAHA Dude you have to be the FUNNIEST Man alive

    Winston is so innocent that he makes up a story has his criminal friend lie for him and he lies

    Bonzai still thinks OJ didn’t do it


  57. BucsLife Says:

    Jman…who said he’s lying? If the NFL had proof, JW would have gotten way more than 3 games!

  58. SB Says:

    @Roy………..None of the JW supporters care to watch that video and compare what he allegedly did.
    Let’s just be thankful that she didn’t charge JW with Sexual Battery. Cause it is painfully obvious that JW should be charged with the same “if” it actually happened and he didn’t deny it.
    Funny as Sh!t though how that girl Ripped his a$$ of his feet in a choke hold! 🙂

  59. SB Says:

    BucsLife Says:
    July 21st, 2018 at 9:40 pm
    Jman…who said he’s lying? If the NFL had proof, JW would have gotten way more than 3 games!
    C’mon sir. Get your head out of the sand. He got 3 games for lying. They obviously KNOW that he was the only one in the car with her. Hence Lying.
    They have NO CLUE just as we don’t whether he actually committed a heinous act.
    Hence the 3 gamer instead of 6. Simple math

  60. Joe Says:

    jumps on a table and yells FHITP.

    About 10 days after Jameis did that, Joe heard Howard Stern doing about a 40-minute bit about this (not Jameis). Apparently, it was a popular meme at the time. Stern wouldn’t know Jameis from a boat oar, but he is on top of pop culture. Am still waiting for anyone to go after Stern for that — instead, it was taken like it was supposed to be taken, a pop culture gag.

    But Jameis? Folks want to drag him behind a truck for that.

  61. nole4jabooandDbucs Says:

    According to Kate he touched, but she questioned him and he didn’t persue. So how is that like the video? I have accidently SOBER touched a male private as have a lot on here accidently “touched” private parts… the “righteous militia”!

    If you keep calling a banana an apple, does it really become a banana? Keep saying rape, a bad reputation, assault. This righteous indignation I am not falling for it…a man was put in prison for mistreating dogs while children are being snatched away from their parents and being kept in cages like dogs. And that include young girls and ladies!

    And we are appalled and upset at Jameis for being ACCUSED of TOUCHING a female because he owe us his life for the few dollars out of our pockets that we pay for him to ENTERTAIN US!


  62. Trench War Says:

    But Jameis? Folks want to drag him behind a truck for that.

    seriously Joe? .I don’t think anybody is advocating that. That conjures up images of James Byrd Jr. 1946 Beaumont Texas

  63. Gene Deckehoff is my hero Says:

    People either love Jameis or hate him. He’s a proven winner and a champion. Famous Jameis Winston was the right selection and is the future of the franchise. Get over it haters.

  64. onetrickpony Says:

    proven winner and champion?

    the Bucs record for winning with Jameis, doesn’t tell me that

  65. Bucwylde Says:

    “But Jameis? Folks want to drag him behind a truck for that.”

    Joe, That’s because Jamies seems to lack the understanding he’s expected to fill a very special role as a community leader and a team leader ( standard setter).

    Howard Stern or Bernie Mac were never going to have their face on the side of Ray Jay and people who watch or listen to them have an idea of what they’re in for and right or wrong ALL NFL quarterbacks are held to a much higher standard one Neither you nor Jamies seem to be aware of.

  66. Roy T. Buford Says:

    Joe wrote: “Am still waiting for anyone to go after Stern for that — instead, it was taken like it was supposed to be taken, a pop culture gag. But Jameis? Folks want to drag him behind a truck for that.”

    Ouch, little much racial overtone there on the truck dragging comment. Now, Stern is called a shock jock for a reason. His listeners tune in because they know how he is, and how he talks. Jameis was at college and being the center of attention that he likes to be and I think he’s shown to be awkward in several times trying to be the big man. People shouldn’t have made a big deal of that.
    However, it’s also not something most would expect in the NFL QB that’s supposed to be the face of their franchise. He doesn’t have to be Billy Graham, but just being himself he also shouldn’t talk in a manner that people look up to seen if a bolt of lightning is coming in.

  67. Roy T. Buford Says:

    ^^^and I’ll say when he knows he’s being watched now, he doesn’t talk any way he shouldn’t….slow learning curve perhaps. Too slow overall. Yup.

  68. Walter Seidel Says:

    So Joe, you’re apparently cool with “FHITP”………..nice.

  69. Micheal Andrew Trowell II Says:


    I agree wit ya! Now if he did it then he is dead wrong and should be punished as such! But i cannot understand how so many ‘fans’ want him gone simply because of something someone said he did…