Friday Training Camp Notes & Nuggets

July 27th, 2018

The bleachers are gone. The sight lines are different and patrolling One Buc Palace outdoors at training camp practice is a very different animal. 

Alas, Joe is feeling it out and sharing along the way. The Bucs were not in pads for the second consecutive day, a league rule for the start of camps.

*More of a hip-hop and modern mix of music at today’s session, which was not open to the public. Joe heard the Migos lyrics, “eat the molly like a snack” and immediately thought of Doug Martin. Thankfully, Martin has taken his act to Chucky in Oakland. The flashback music (video below) came as third-string quarterback, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, connected with the immortal Sergio Bailey down the left hash mark for a big gain. Bailey is an undrafted rookie out of Eastern Michigan.

*Cornerback Ryan Smith had a very up and down day, on the heels of some very solid work on Mike Evans in the indoor facility during Thursday’s practice. Ryan Fitzpatrick connected with Evans on about a 35-yarder early in practice with Smith covering. More on Smith later.

*Fitzpatrick, primarily working with the first-team offense, overthrows Bailey with rookie corner M.J. Stewart covering.

*Over where the defensive line is working on drills, Joe heads for a very close look. Hey, Joe was where he was permitted to stand, just five yards from the d-line unit and high-energy coach Brentson Buckner. Gerald McCoy seemed annoyed by Joe’s proximity and said something to Joe and made a wave-off kind of motion. Joe waved back.

*Of note, the d-line put in a chunk of time working on going around giant tackling dummies without using any hands, focusing on the full body turning and effort without the use of hands and arms. Buckner was aggressively coaching up Jason Pierre-Paul, “Snap that head, J,” Buckner barked before going over to talk to him at close range. JPP seemed like a good student. When the drill shifted to using hands and arms to club the dummies, Buckner was on the guys to focus on their bodies. “You ain’t got to cock your hand back! Let your body do the work!”

*Big-time precision throw by Fitzpatrick, complete 10 yards over the middle to Cameron Brate. Lotta zip with Lavonte David all over Brate in 7-on-7 work.

*Underthrow deep left about 40 yards to DeSean Jackson from Fitzpatrick. It gave Smith time to catch up and break up the play. Jackson was not happy, clapped his hands together in frustration.

*Jameis rolls left and is unable to connect with camp meat on a short pass that is well-defended.

*Ronald Jones busts around left end and loses defenders.
*Bucs transitioning to a little tempo work and Joe sees the rare sight of Dirk Koetter in a 40-yard sprint. Not a good look. Joe almost thought Koetter was going to go down. He did have hip replacement surgery just before he got the Bucs’ gig.

*Fitzpatrick rolls right and throws a dying duck of a pass. Incomplete. Target unknown.

*In 11-on-11, Jameis hits DeSean Jackson on a crossing pattern from the right side.

*Jameis is not throwing the ball smartly. He rifles a pass to Mike Evans who is covered perfectly by Vernon Hargreaves. Incomplete. Then Jameis off a play-fake, rolls left and throws behind undrafted rookie tight end Jason Reese.

*Jameis fumbles a shotgun snap. Unclear how bad the snap might have been.

*Ryan Griffin throws a ball to no one remotely close down the left side. Major miscommunication.

*Bombs away! Fitzpatrick heaves a pass down to a streaking Jackson down the left side about 60 yards. Jackson had to slow up only slightly to get but the ball dropped right in his breadbasket. Smith got to eat turf pellets (track people will get that reference.

*Lot of guys working after practice on their own time. Joe can’t remember seeing so many in previous years on a steamy summer day. Fitzpatrick is seen bouncing between a lot of dudes and takes private time for a back-shoulder, red-zone work — and discussion — with Chris Godwin. See home page story.

*Jameis takes most of his after-practice work with coaches and O.J. Howard, with him and Howard working over and over on simple routes.

24 Responses to “Friday Training Camp Notes & Nuggets”

  1. Wausa Says:

    I have a good feeling Jamie’s will play at a very high level when he returns

  2. Dewey Selmon Says:

    Joe waved back. classic

  3. D1 Says:


    Why not now!
    If you recall last year , things didn’t just fix themselves once the season started.
    If Winston is not sharp in camp and the pre season I will be concerned.
    JW is not at that point in his career that He can just flip a switch and be great.

  4. Tampaspicer Says:


    Did JW3 throw any balls away today? I see from your notes JW3 threw to a covered ME13.

  5. AG Says:

    Hah looks like McCoy waived back a second time when “answering” Joe’s Drew Brees question.. Joe.. your move!

  6. AG Says:

    Looks like McCoy waived back for a second time when “answering” Joe’s Drew Brees question.. Joe.. Your move!!

  7. Herbiebuc Says:

    Eat the molly like a snack lol funny Doug martinreference

  8. WestminsterCoBucsFan Says:

    GMC should’ve told joe that the media on the practice field was a distraction, not jameis’ 3 games.
    Of course I think you should be able to do your job, as this is the only bucs coverage I follow on a daily basis, but i think the d-lines job is a bit more important.

  9. Mbfists Says:

    Everyone has a opinion Joe I appreciate the articles keep them coming and the waving if need be…. true

  10. Mbfists Says:

    I appreciate the Bucs news Joe keep it coming! Hopefully by the end of the season you have your FU waves down pat.

  11. Buc believer Says:

    Great stuff Joe! Are you sure you didn’t mistaken GMC’s waiving at you for him checking on the hang nail he had on his hand as he was probable contemplating tapping out for the day but then realized it was only day 2 and he probably should stay in there.

  12. Destinjohnny Says:

    Jameis is in a funk and again, not a bust just not top 15
    We should have taken josh Rosen. The Cardinal vets are saying he is the real deal. They are making Aaron Rodgers comparisons
    O by the way, we took Cadillac over Araon Rodgers

  13. Buchead5588 Says:

    I think some of Jameis struggles are due to playing with the 2nd An 3rd stringers no familiarity at all I think he will settle in once a week goes by An he starts to relax again a lot of eyes on him right now nerves will get you An who he’s throwing to in most cases go Bucs Support MYQB#3

  14. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Joe is one of GMC’s few defenders on these here pages. Maybe BB is working GMC too hard with no ice cream breaks.

  15. SteelStudBuc Says:

    Sounds like Jameis is in mid season form.

  16. Broy34 Says:

    Destin Johnny and I suppose we should be the browns since Jarvis Landry said they’re gonna score 40 a game with tyrod. Here’s a newsflash. Jamies. Is. The. Bucs. Qb. Now. And for. A. Serious. While. So either get on board or go be a cardinals fan. Damn this fan base

  17. Broy34 Says:

    Not to mention u read notes on a website and declared Winston in a funk. I’m a Jamie’s fan but not biased. He has to get better but if anyone thinks Anyone but Brady and Rodgers would be good running for their life with no playaction ability run game or defense you’re insane

  18. Destinjohnny Says:

    Broy having a top 3 QB is overrated I get it.
    I’d much rather have the 20th best Qb
    I don’t think people realize that we took caddy over Aaron Rodgers
    And that it looks like we just made the same mistake again.

  19. Broy34 Says:

    Do you actually think that was my point that I wouldn’t want Rodgers. My point is we have who we have and it’s not changing soon. So get on board. That was the point. You’re going back like ten years complaining about a draft pick. Get the f over it man. It’s done it’s not gonna change. But u keep living in the past. That always works well

  20. Pick6 Says:

    I think the time off from being “the guy” and watching Fitzpatrick actually helped Jameis last year and could help him this training camp also. Jameis has always had to be the alpha besides a redshirt season behind EJ Manuel, and maybe silly rhymes and eating Ws are the consequence of not having enough apprenticeship time in his development as a QB

  21. Owlykat Says:

    Not being at the practice, when Jameis misses I don’t know how well his target was covered, so what is called a miss could be a deliberate overthrow in order to avoid both an interception and in a real game could be a sack. At least Fitz sounds very good. Love the notes Joe. Please keep them coming.

  22. Buccfan37 Says:

    You should have pulled the “wipe the butter off your fingers” sign out of your pocket. How dare GMC try to wave off Joe who has his back without fail. The wave back, lmao.

  23. Destinjohnny Says:

    Okay having the 20th best starter is something we should shoot for
    Way to aim high
    In two years we will be cringing.
    Mate have some vision

  24. DavidBigBucsFan99 Says:

    Buccfan37 maybe it wasn’t because of Joe per say but because of the worthless fans up here who ground his name in the mud. It’s called guilty by association.

    Pick6 that is one the very few lucid and well thought posts about Jameis I’ve ever seen up here. No homerism or haterism just intelligent observation. If some of these so called grown men up here would stay out of their feelings so much this board would be more bearable.