“They’re Teaching Me”

June 15th, 2018

New order on defense.

For all the accolades and all the Pro Bowls, 30-year-old Bucs stud defensive tackle Gerald McCoy has a monster hole in his resume.

Zero playoff appearances. Goose egg.

For years, GMC was the alpha dog on the defensive line. Who else were younger defensive linemen supposed to look up to, pot-carrying, kneeling Akeem Spence? Swaggy Baker?

But GMC may be stepping aside himself to learn this year. That’s what he all but suggested yesterday.

Why? That’s because Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht went shopping and bought Jason Pierre-Paul, Vinny Curry and Beau Allen, all three defensive linemen with Super Bowl rings.

“The great thing about the guys that we brought in, they all – except for [Vita] Vita since he came out of college – all of them have been to the Super Bowl,” GMC said. “Three of them won it. So they know what it takes. They know what it is to be accountable.”

“That’s why I haven’t had to do much up front with the D-line, because we brought in guys that know what that’s like. They know what they need to do so I don’t have to say this, say that, do that – they’ve been where I want to go. They’re teaching me. It’s going to be great.”

GMC is a proud man as he should be. So it shows how badly he craves to get to the postseason if he is willing to check his pride at the door and let his new teammates be more vocal, upfront and visible.

86 Responses to ““They’re Teaching Me””

  1. Buc believer Says:

    I can tell you in a nutshell Geraldini how to be a better player… put the comic books down and quit doing all these acrobatic dances on the field and finally get some sacks and pressures that are meaningful instead of relying on a fan base and media that keep giving your sorry soft arse a pass. Oh and also care as much about the damn game as most of us do instead of using your skills as simply a ATM debit card.

  2. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    Captain “Whiner”…..they’re coaching me clown

    I’m glad this is your last year with the bucs Mr Candy azz

  3. Steven007 Says:

    Troll alert. Here is your requisite daily GMC article. Have at it.

  4. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    ……the other day an icecream truck came by the park….I walked up to it with my son and GMC was driving it while Fatty Baker was pulling scoops…..

    …….I immediately walked away from it……I wanted my son to get icecream from winners……not losers

  5. Dooshlarue Says:

    Aw shucks Gummy……..you’re so humble.
    I feel a lot better now.

  6. ARGH_M8E Says:

    Thank god! Let me tell you a little story about a man named SHHHHH🤫 This article was music to my ears.

  7. BringBucsBack Says:

    Please, stop it with the “kneeling” insults, Joes. It makes you look journalistically immature in addition to just plain-ole ignorant. Everyone kneeled!

    Last week McCoy was the undisputed leader of the defensive line now, he is listening to players with as much experience and more success? More epiphanies! He is probably just saying all the right things. I hope he is learning. I hope every one is learning.

  8. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    GMC gave a 16 plus minute presser…..there will be multiple quotes from it that can be milked for chum for the trolls who trash one of out best…..it’s so enjoyable to watch it unfold on a daily basis….

    You throw in “getting rid of Michael Bennett” for no good reason or quotes from the “Rock Star” Loser GM, Dominick…..and we are cookin’.

  9. Papa578 Says:

    It’s clear that GMC wants no part of a leadership role. That’s fine, we now have the players to handle all that. All we need from Mr. McCoy is to be consistently disruptive….um, to the opponents offense that is.

  10. Lucious Selmon Says:

    BringBucsBack Says:
    Please, stop it with the “kneeling” insults, Joes. It makes you look … ignorant. Everyone kneeled!

    Actually perhaps you are the ignorant one. Many teams had just a few protesters. 6 teams had no one take a knee. A far cry from “everyone.”

  11. The Buc Realist Says:

    I love how joe can spin a story!!!!!! The truth was he tried to lead and found out that the other new D-lineman where not buying what he was weakly selling!!!!!! Have we already forgot that speech he tried to tell the other of “what it takes” to get to the playoffs?????????? Who all looked at GMC like he was out of his mind!!!!!! They look at him like the immortal words of the late, great Gary Coleman “Whach ya talk’n bout Willis”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The rein of weak leadership has ended!!!!!!!!!!

    Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. budbuc Says:

    @ Lucious…. Well said sir!

  13. tnew Says:

    I was saying the same things last year and hopefully with this new group he will finally do it. GMC needs to play more disciplined. Its not about sacks or tackles even at the DT spot. He must engage, then win his battle, and let the sacks and tackles come as they may. GMC’s specialty is beating his lineman, but exactly where the lineman wants him to go so he is taken out of the play. Every so often, the stars align and he runs into a play. Looks amazing on highlights (and this combined with a likeable persona gets him pro bowls). The position (3 techs, I realize get a bit more freedom but they still must play more disciplined than GMC) must take on, occupy and beat double teams without allowing one to get free to the linebackers. He plays best, when he uses his quickness to create the point of attack and get his lineman out of balance. He is most inconsistent, (some great plays too) when he relies on quickness to split doubles. Sapp (this is what made him an HOF’er, he occupied lineman and made plays) was great at this. He would engage his blocker first then disengage away from the double team. If the DT only relies on beating his man, then he can be game planned very easy. A DE, can do this all day long. I hope, with the added muscle in the middle, we see GMC more than a little at DE. I wish he started doing this 6-7 years ago. I hope Buckner will use GMC much like he used Campbell in Arizona, which was even split between DT and DE. I hope, and I’ve said this the past 3-4 years, this is the year we see just what GMC can be.

  14. BringBucsBack Says:

    Lucious, didn’t EVERY player kneel at the beginning of their game the week that your president said that the NFL should “fire” everyone that kneeled (because that’s what he would do) after insulting the players and calling them names just shy of the “N” word which, is what he really wanted to call them? EVERYONE kneeled, just to spite HIM, even the players who hadn’t previously kneeled, whites and blacks! Don’t you remember that? Have I got it wrong?

  15. Bucsfanman Says:

    @TBBF- Mix, stir, repeat…
    Step up to the trough boys. It’s feeding time! Cue the insanity.

  16. Reality-is-a-Beotch Says:


    The only insanity is the on field results since the crying clown arrived as team captain and the excuses to go with it.

    Bucs only hope is for this complete bum and embarrassment to real men everywhere is to land on IR or simply just quit before week 1. Better off with a tackling dummy lining up at dt against run versus ole softee.

  17. Buccernutter Says:

    Honestly I think at this point the growing sentiment with all of us is that gmc is a very very good player. One of the best in the NFL.

    However, he is not a leader. He has been type casted as one for his tenire in Tampa but it’s because nobody has been better. Players have been in and out and there has been little to no help added to the d line to trump his ways. Kwon is finally here but hasnt had the tenure to garner more respect than McCoy the vet. I like McCoy but he is more of like a kid playing his favorite sport than a man here to lead dogs.

    This may be the first time in McCoy’s career that he will be held responsible and no longer left to influence the entire team and fulfil a leadership role as Jameis, Kwon, Jensen, and even Buckner are here and much better suited to do so. McCoy probably isn’t fond of the change but it’s necessary to win games like he said. We all remember his pregame speech this season. Worst I may have ever seen. Worse than the Ws

  18. Pryda... sec147 Says:

    GMC needs to just focus no more offsides like others here say play more disciplined if everyone works as a team and wins their one v one matchups we have a shot. Lol

  19. Bucsfanman Says:

    RiaB- Agreed. The product this team has fielded has been horrendous over the years. Where we diverge is I don’t blame a DT for our losing. That’s the insanity!

    Other than the name change, you are consistent. You’re going to be eating crow at the end of the season though, me thinks!

  20. 813bucboi Says:


    I hear you….

    joe is making himself look bias and immature…..joe, you act like “kneeling” was/is illegal…..to lump “kneelers” in with “pot carriers” is irresponsible and careless…..

    if your not going to be part of the solution, fine….but don’t be part of the problem….


  21. Chris Says:

    That one off handed kneeling comment reveals how you really feel and discredits anything else you had to say as far as I’m concerned

  22. 813bucboi Says:


    I guess you missed JPP saying its GMC’s defense and he’s following him…..


  23. Buccernutter Says:

    I think we all know at this point, at least if you’re smart, that McCoy is one of the best in the league. He’s just a terrible leader. Alot of us resent him for that because the defenses have not responded to him.

    However I think that’s over as both kwon and even Buckner should hold that role. It’s evident McCoy is frustrated losing capacity, even when Jameis was drafted as we all saw, however it’s necessary for us to win games like he requested. Instead of enjoying football like a kid this season he needs to work. Period.

    Still one of the best though.

  24. Lamarcus Says:

    Even is pressers are FLAT

  25. Defense Rules Says:

    @Realist … “The truth was he tried to lead and found out that the other new D-lineman where not buying what he was weakly selling!!!!!!” Or maybe the reality is that the other DLinemen he’s been playing with were mediocre? It still starts with talent & skill IMO. Desire & motivation play a big part, but ‘want-to’ only goes so far. But if you don’t have talent & skill, the biggest, baddest, meanest guy on the other side of the line is gonna kick your ass.

    It ALL starts in the trenches. GMC is a very skilled & talented player in his own right, but this year SHOULD see him take a big step forward because he’s now surrounded by other skilled & talented players. Don’t personally give a rats who leads, as long as this team plays competitive football & starts cranking out some W’s.

  26. Couch Fan Says:

    Stop trying to spin it. Nobody is blaming GMC for the Bucs losing. Unlike you fan boys, we are simply holding him accountable for his part on the terrible Dlines that hes been the face of for years. Again, Soft. No passion. Inconsistent. Words used to describe the defense last year, also words us “haters” have said about McCoy for years now. Coincidence? Nope, just people finally realizing the truth!

  27. Defense Rules Says:

    And Buccernutter, GMC isn’t a ‘terrible leader’ because ‘the defenses have not responded to him’. Have worked a lot with computers for over 30 years & the old maxim really is true: ‘Garbage in, garbage out’. Same holds true for football teams IMO. It all starts in the trenches & our trenches have been mediocre (at best) for the past 15 years or so. This year’s DLine is MUCH more talented than last year’s, and I agree totally with 813bucboi on this: #NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!

  28. Steven007 Says:

    @ Trollmax/Reality-is-I-can’t-get-chicks –

    Hey look, it’s Krusty the Cryin’ Troll right on cue with his tired, regurgitated nonsense word salad! Glad we could wake you up Max Factor. Do you own an original thought? Or do you merely have to borrow them? Ok, don’t bother, I know the answer.

  29. Bucsfanman Says:

    Couch- Nobody is letting anyone off the hook. Lets say that the things you say about him are true; “no passion, inconsistent, soft”. What does that then tell you about the other d-linemen or the rest of the defense for that matter?

    The “truth”?! The truth is that this football TEAM has stunk out loud for decades. While it may be fun and easy to point at ONE guy, ONE guy is not responsible for decades of losing, nor is he responsible for the lack of talent.
    This will be the one conversation about Buc players from “fans” that I will never understand. It’s like complaining about Mike Evans and YAC. Who gives a crap?! He’s a good player.
    Oh well. I’m just a Bucs fan, man! 🙂

  30. Buccernutter Says:

    Lol we all saw McCoy’s pregame speech. Worse than the Ws. Terrible may not be the word but he certainly is not a good leader.

    Kwon in his second year has done a better job than he has. I’ve watched enough football games to know the defenses have not rallied behind Gerald. Kwon is doing a far better job. I don’t agree with u.

  31. Couch Fan Says:

    Nobody gets a pass. We all know the defense has stunk for awhile now. Again nobody has laid all the blame on anyone person. We are holding HIM to the same standards as everyone else. Has he played up to the level of a #3 draft pick or his contract? IMO, not even close. I cant speak for anyone else but im pretty sure most do feel the same way when I say I am tired of him getting a pass. I think you are way off base when you say “Its like complaining about Evans Yac.” That doesnt even make sense to me as Evans has been the model of consistency since he’s been here. Where GMC has been underachieveing for years while the fingers get pointed at everyone else. Coaches, teammates. Everyone but HIM. The actual leader. The one the guys apparently follow. I dont hate McCoy. I just wish he would play up to his talent level consistently which at this point is nothing more than a hope and a pray.

  32. Couch Fan Says:


  33. Capt.Tim Says:

    So kind of you,Joe!
    Every day, you serve up a lil something for your mentally hsndicapped readers
    Otherwise known as the dumbest F**ks on earth club
    DFOEC for short

    Sort of like setting up a crafts project at the special school.

    Gives your “special” posters something to do, and get all excited about.
    Also, while they are posting here- they arent driving, slowing down lines at the bank, injuring themselves, or God forbid- Breeding!

    I usually avoid the articles posted just to lure in the DFOEC, but I wanted to stop by on this one.
    On behalf of the Tampa bay area,
    Thank you.

  34. Reality-is-a-Beotch Says:

    The pansy arse just needs to shut up fake another injury. he is good at that after all then go back to his dolls. The team and Tampa would be much better without this loser and his yapping gums.

  35. Steven007 Says:

    Trollmax/Reality-is-I-can’t-get-chicks –

    Dude, you’re one note; no creativity, nothing to add that you haven’t added a hundred times before. Saying it over and over doesn’t make it so or give it more credence, it simply reinforces your obsession and quite ironically the power GMC has over you. It’s not the other way around. He doesn’t read your drivel. But you read about him and watch him and obsess over him like a child. Because you are a child. A sad, Jameson swillin’, stripper buyin’ (because no one’s giving it to you for free) overgrown child. But keep it coming. I can do this all day, clown.

  36. unbelievable Says:

    Oh please cut the holier-than-thou attitude with Spence, looking down on him for smoking weed. A substance that is 100% natural, has legit medicinal uses, and has zero addiction issues, unlike the painkillers that get prescribed by the thousands. Not too mention about 70% of the league uses it.

    But hey let’s keep pumping them full of bug pharma drugs instead cause not only do those not really even work for pain, but they have the added benefit of liver and kidney problems, physical addiction and dependency, and chemical imbalances in the brain!

  37. Steven007 Says:

    Couch Fan –

    First off, thanks for being reasonable and articulate instead of just an obvious loser hater with no substance. Now then. I’ve never understood the GMC hate, either as person or player. I don’t care about draft position at this point (9 years in) and neither should you. The highest paid QB in the league (at least for a month) was a 4th round draft pick. Picked in the same draft as a QB taken #2 overall who will probably never start a game again (in case you’re wondering I’m talking about Kirk Cousins and RGIII). Who cares? GMC is a good player whose career compares favorably to the guy picked one spot above him (the “ferocious” Suh who has similar numbers and has also never won a “meaningful” game according to our lovable loser troll Trollmax/Reality, using logic only a homeless retard would; according to this logic Beau Allen is better than GMC because he “won” the SB rotating on a winning teams DL). GMC has never been a leader and I don’t give a flying F. This team is full of well paid and trained professionals (not to mention coaches) who shouldn’t have to be led by the nose to do their job. Your 3T DT should not be the straw the stirs the drink. He’s merely a cog in the big picture. I don’t agree that GMC has underachieved. He’s averaged over 6 sacks a year (including two early years when injured) from a DT position with very little help. Do I wish he was Aaron Donald? Hell yeah. And so does every fan of every other team in the league vs. their starting DT’s.

  38. BushidoEvans Says:

    @Tnew I don’t think I saw anyone respond to your comment, but it’s nice to see someone who knows football, either played or coached I imagine. GMC lovers don’t see this and GMC haters don’t even know why they don’t like him. Your analysis is spot on and that’s because you understand the responsibility of a 3 tech. I was talking about this not too long ago he needs to be a more consistent presence because up until now he has been an impact or non factor on each play it’s literally no in between because of the way he plays the game, if he guesses right he makes huge plays if he guesses wrong not only is he a non factor on that play, but that in turn impacts everyone behind him. His greatest strength (his quickness off the ball and make no mistake it one of the most impressive first steps for a DT in league history) is also his greatest weakness, because when he gets it wrong he has engaged no one and at the same time taken himself out of the play, which means the man he was supposed to engage is looking for someone else to block and that’s usually someone much smaller than GMC lol. Lavonte has had to make these leaning contorted tackles his whole career because he constantly has to dodge lineman as he makes tackles, everyone thinks its so impressive (and it is) completely missing the fact that there are constantly linemen in his path. He has to stop relying on his first step on non passing downs and I imagine that is very hard for him because it’s his most dominate attribute.

  39. BushidoEvans Says:

    I love to see this reality guy say this to Geralds face

  40. Bucsfanman Says:

    Steven007- You saved me some typing.
    Couch- I don’t begrudge your sentiment regarding expectations. I just think we’re way past that now. I also disagree that GMC is underachieving. I keep going back to what are we comparing him to? His stats say he’s one of the best over his 9 year career.
    I am truly hoping that his game elevates. Not because of my expectations of HIM, but because of my expectations of the pieces around him. Something that is indisputable fact is the lack of talent on defense. Nobody here can name ONE defensive lineman outside of GMC who has been this consistent for this amount of time during his tenure.
    I expect this defense and this team to improve. In order for that to happen EVERY LAST PLAYER is going to have to step up their game.
    100% you’re right! NO PASSES!

  41. Steven007 Says:

    Bushido, Reality/Trollmax would have to wear a Depends (if he doesn’t already) because the reality of it is if they ever met face to face, he would NEVER say anything derogatory to him. All these guys calling him a clown and ice cream and that he plays with dolls would NEVER in a million years say anything to his face because in real life, if he wanted to, GMC could END these clown fans. Just that possibility alone would drain their bladder if they ever had a face to face encounter and were stupid (or drunk) enough to say anything. They are keyboard tough guys, nothing more.

  42. Reality-is-a-Beotch Says:

    The one thing you can guarantee from the loyal gmc apologists is they never have any dominate games or big plays to defend thier mancrush just a laundry list of excuses to justify your love of a soft loser with no heart who will finish his entire nfl career with not a single meaningful win

    Little stevie

    You care more about tmax and me more than you care about bucs. Must be gmc mother

  43. Buc believer Says:

    @steven007… we all would LOVE the oppurtunity to tell him to his face but he hides behind the gate at one Buc! Then he tells us to come see him face to face knowing all the while that the guards would t open the gate. GMC is the coward.

  44. Reality-is-a-Beotch Says:

    Gmc gives up the butt against the run fsster than a coward would. Cowards have pride career losers with a smile do not

  45. Steven007 Says:

    Trollmax/Reality-is-I-can’t-get-chicks –

    “…more about tmax AND me”… ha-ha – delusional much? Don’t answer that.

    Believer, if you want to find him (and I’m convinced you don’t) you can find him. The player’s lot at the stadium is open to all and players often sign there. Also the players live here and if you were interested enough you could find him not mention public appearances. He has no entourage. I’ve seen him (and many other players) multiple times out and about. Good luck.

  46. Buc believer Says:

    @Steven007 your convinced I don’t… there is absolutely nothing I could post on a Buc blog to have you know how serious I am about telling him how I feel. That is not to say it must be done disrespectfuly because I would never do that to him or any other human being. However I would let him know I don’t feel he is worth all the accolades and the money he has been given and I would love nothing more than to have him prove me wrong.

  47. Steven007 Says:

    Believer, I hope you get a chance to give him a piece of your mind. Seriously. And good luck.

  48. DB55 Says:

    I guess it wouldn’t be so bad if every starter he’s played with didn’t have P.O. snaps or SB rings. That’s the big hole in the “he never had help” arguement.

  49. Bucsfanman Says:

    DB55- You’re speaking of Ayers and McDonald I assume. Neither one of those guys were ever dominant at their positions and both played part-time, whether because of injuries or rotational.
    I’m not sure that holds any weight.
    We’re too focused on #93. Lets see some contributions from LE, RE, and the other DT.

    RiaB- You asking for big play examples?! Our defense is a walking big play—for the other team!

  50. Steven007 Says:

    “Cowards have pride” – Trollmax/Reality 6/15/18 @ 12:32

    Well if that’s not an inadvertent admission of being prideful what is? Thanks for confirming what we already know. We’re proud of you too, Trollmax! Free shots all around. It’s 5:00 somewhere!

  51. Anonymous Says:

    Steven007, your post at 1122 hit the spot. Thanks for posting. Go Bucs!

  52. BushidoEvans Says:

    @Steven I’m not saying I’d like to see it because I expect him to behave differently Lol, I honestly think he believes what he’s saying is the truth and the longer I watch I think it’s based in some sort of reality of course he and/or/as Tmax takes it to am extreme level. GMC isn’t without flaws, he’s said and done some things that have made my ears perk up, like his response to Coach Buck’s rant I think he didn’t take what he needed away from that instead of kind of poo pooing it as just coaching and not internalizing the spirit of it. However, he’s an amazing player, not a perfect player by any stretch of the imagination. I believe that any fan who believes we are better off without him are misguiding there displeasure with the team overall. If anyone doesn’t think if he was cut 31 teams wouldn’t be calling and 20 of those teams wouldn’t be in a bidding war is just delusional. There’s a fine line between genius and insanity and I think people around here for that lime poorly when it comes to him.

  53. BushidoEvans Says:

    *toe that line*

  54. BushidoEvans Says:

    And when I said I’d like to see it I meant I’d honestly like to see it, I think it’d be an incredibly entertaining exchange. And these guys would quickly realize the difference between the online reality they’ve created and the actually reality that stands before them begins. I’ve never had the chance to see this in any capacity yet lol.

  55. Steven007 Says:

    Bushido, well said.

  56. DB55 Says:


    He makes 100mil contract he shouldn’t need any help. Especially when everyone he plays with goes to another team with less talent on the dline and they make the playoffs. Stop with the excuses dude is soft af. Always giving up winning tds and never ever making a play to win the game when he can.

    If he made 6 mil abyears and didn’t have 18!straight problems then he wouldn’t have any expectations on him. Both he can’t have it both ways. Sorry not sorry

  57. DB55 Says:


    What’s he gonna do? You think he’s gonna square up? He didn’t square up when someone called his family member the n word. He did get in front of the cameras and cry about it though.

    Why don’t he just focus on beating the guy in front of him on sundays that should keep him more than busy.

  58. Steven007 Says:

    “He makes 100M he doesn’t need any help” –

    DB55 – you might want to extend that memo to all the players making 100M and let’s be honest, anywhere in that vicinity. $100M QB’s? Do it all on your own, I don’t care what weapons you have YOU MAKE 100M!!! Ditto every other position. If you make ~ $80 – 100M be prepared to do it all yourself. Come on, man. The money thing’s overrated. It’s not my money or yours so why do you care so much about the $$ he’s making? Good for him. Obviously others above our pay grade as fans disagree with you. I know you hate the guy but you can come up with better arguments than that nonsensical non argument.

  59. Bucsfanman Says:

    “sorry not sorry”! LOL! You sound like my wife!

    His contract is a non-issue IMO. Only because that’s what a guy who does what he does makes. Look, I want more out of the guy too. I just find some of the criticisms to be unfair, that’s all!
    You’d probably agree with this when I say that if he wasn’t so visible, meaning not chasing the mic all the time, we could maybe endear ourselves to him a bit more. When he’s constantly yucking it up, it becomes tiresome and old.
    He’s a GOOD player and plays for my favorite team. I don’t expect him to do anything but play football. He’s never been THAT guy for us, like Sapp, and he never will. Truthfully, I’m OK with that. Since Sapp however, he is the best d-lineman we’ve had. I know it’s not a ringing endorsement but it’s true.
    Agree disagree!

  60. BushidoEvans Says:

    @DB I don’t think he’d square up, I don’t think he’s wired that way. I just think it’d be funny to see the reaction. Listen man I think my sentiment is being misunderstood I’m not saying “oh you wouldn’t say it to his face because you aren’t tough” I don’t know anyone’s make up on here, maybe Tmax or whoever else are actually about that, who knows lol. Just saying no matter which direction it’d go the outcome wouldn’t be what they’re expecting.

  61. Duke Says:


    I don’t believe GMC would “square up” on a couple 10yr olds. It was a couple children who called his daughter a derogatory name. But I see how you can make a felony assault and battery on a minor a referendum on how soft the man is. Sapp would have taught those toddlers a lesson ……….cuz he hard.

  62. DB55 Says:


    Of the 26 players who have signed 100mil contracts only McIceCream has never been to a playoff game. ONLY MCICECREAM.

    Even KAPERNICK on that list and he has multiple appearance and a SB yet he’s “not good” to play. GMAFB

  63. DB55 Says:

    Wait my last comment is to Steve, my bad.

  64. BigHogHaynes Says:


  65. DB55 Says:


    Another thing, if he has to do it by himself why have all his teammates made it to the playoffs except him? Even AKEEM Spence has more PO games not to mention Bennett, clay born, McDonald, Ayers, ghost Johnson, George johnson I mean EVERYBODY! But they’re the problem not buttercup McIceCream.

    Honestly you fan boys make me sick and your the reason I go off on McIceCream the way I do.

  66. webster Says:

    @ db55

    Come on man. Thats a weak argument to say lineman left mccoy but made the playoffs on another team. Those teams who made the playoffs were better TEAMS. Steven means had absolutely nothing to do with the eagles winning the superbowl. You got to be fair now. You dont blame jameis for the bucs not making the playoffs so you really cant blame it on mccoy. Now you are well within your right to say he has not lived up to the hype in your opinion but penning the playoff drought on him is a bit much. And i am neither a mccoy basher or apologist. I have accepted the fact he is who he is. A good nfl player. It will always take a team to win and for this current team, kwon and jameis will have to lead and the others will have to do their jobs ie blocking/kicking/tackling etc

  67. Steven007 Says:

    DB55, if you are really going to argue the greatness of Spence, McDonald, Ayers, Johnson, etcetera, over GMC based on the crap shoot of the playoffs in a TEAM sport, then you’re obviously pulling from the same Jameson bottle that Trollmax / Reality is and I have no cure for that kind of silliness and stupidity. I like some of your takes. Frankly, you’re bigger than that.

  68. BigHogHaynes Says:

    Team sport guys , we now have proven talent on the D line …what we gonna do!

  69. Steven007 Says:

    Also what Webster said.

  70. DB55 Says:

    Excuses for the leader of the 32nd ranked defense. But hey when you cashing a 800k dollar check each week as you drive off in your rolls Royce ghost who really gives a chit. Am I right?

    The Bucs will never make the playoffs as long as tutti frutti McIceCream is on the team.

    26 other 100mil players found a way to make the playoffs, I guess they were all surrounded by pro-bowlers at every position. Smh.

    Bottom line is they want to win and McIceCream just wants to have fun, like Cindy lauper.

  71. webster Says:

    @ db55

    If 26 other 100 mil dollar players made the playoffs as you say, then what you are missing is 52 other players on those teams wanted to make the playoffs as well. I cant remember a bucs team where all 53 were committed to the same goal or even had the talent. No, daquan bowers does not count. How many years did he show up out of shape? Again it takes a team.

  72. Chris K Says:

    Steven007 is owning the Donkeys in here today! No need for me to pile on. Putting Donkeys in their place and right on point with all of it! Keep it up Steven007. Nice to see a knowledgeable fan on these McCoy click bait articles kill these trolls

  73. unbelievable Says:

    “Especially when everyone he plays with goes to another team with less talent on the dline and they make the playoffs. ”

    DB- that’s complete bullchit and you know it man.

    Bennet is the only one. (Akeem spence and Steven means barely played any snaps so I don’t wanna hear it. Sitting on the bench doesn’t mean sh!t)

  74. DB55 Says:

    Really? Bennet is the only one? How about clayborn or George Johnson for Christ sakes. I’ve never seen so many people defend career losers like the TB fanboys. You guys not only tolerate but celebrate losing. It’s pathetic!

    McIceCream is a career loser don’t matter who many pro owls he loses.

  75. Steven007 Says:

    Chris K, it’s a dirty job but someone has to do it, haha. Thanks man. I have as much stamina as the trolls depending on my workflow for the day. I have fun with it because it’s so easy to rebut and most of their quote-unquote logic has the quality of a kindergarten primer.

  76. Steven007 Says:

    DB 55, roping in George Johnson with GMC is ridiculous and you know it. It fits your narrative but that’s all it fits. It means nothing in the grand scheme.

  77. unbelievable Says:


    The dude has played in 3 playoff games in his career and made a whopping 1 tackle in all 3. GTFO!

    Clayborn has played exactly the same since he left as he did while he was here. Average defensive end, that’s it… so what’s your point?

    You do realize that I would like to see even more from McCoy too, right? But 1 guy doesn’t do it by himself.

    The only guy who has left and had any real success was Bennet. And his stats are basically the same since he left as they were while he was here, so again, what’s the point you are trying to make?

  78. webster Says:

    @ db55

    The falcons had a running game. You yourself have blasted the bucs running game. The falcons have a very good safety. The bucs just got a safetey we all hope/believe can be very good. The falcons have very good corners. The bucs have 1so far and he is old. The falcons have a better dline in beasley, grady jarrett, and a pro bowl dt they just signed last year. Again it takes a team and that is what the bucs are trying to build. I wont even get into george johnson who when he went to the playoff played with suh, ansah etc. That defense was ranked high that year. Again a team.

  79. webster Says:

    I said i would not get into johnson but he has 8.5 career sacks. 6 of those sacks occured with detroit their playoff year when he was always singled covered. He got 0 sacks with the bucs and last year he played with 2 teams. He totaled 0 sacks and 2 tkls with detroit and 5 tkls and 2.5 sacks with the saints. Are you really using george johnson as your i td you so argument? Come on man.

  80. DB55 Says:

    DB55 Says:
    June 15th, 2018 at 1:02 pm
    I guess it wouldn’t be so bad if every starter he’s played with didn’t have P.O. snaps or SB rings. That’s the big hole in the “he never had help” arguement

    My point is simple, fanboys blame everyone but McCoy yet virtually all his teammates whether roll players or stars have more playoff snaps than McCoy, virtually all of them so who’s really the problem?

  81. ATrain Says:

    Cue GMC Lovers

    Yes GMC should teach everyone

    No better in the league

    Hahah. That’s all I could get out

  82. Mike Johnson Says:

    A lot of GMC haters who call themselves Buc fans. Kinda Sad. But..thats what you get when your team is a celler dweller. Guy plays his heart out. Maybe IF..we start winning, Fans will be more appreciative of him.

  83. unbelievable Says:

    Yea dude but my point is that the guys who have gone to the playoffs after leaving have all been part-time rotational players at best, barley logging snaps (except Bennet), whereas they were starters for us.

    The rest of them had PO experience before they got here, and have never had it again since arriving here, OR since leaving. There’s blame everywhere, but I don’t put that all on 1 single guy who happens to be the most talented too. Most of these guy had 1 breakout season and then never again here or anywhere else.

    No D-line is successful with only 1 productive player on it. The best we’ve had is Spawn and Jac Smith and way before that Adrian Clayborn, and none of them have stayed healthy as Bucs.

  84. unbelievable Says:

    And all 3 were most liabilities in the run game too. LOL.


  85. webster Says:

    @ db55

    Mike evans is not the best wideout but out of 64 starting receivers, im good with him being a top 5 imo or at worst top ten. I dont need the best wr to win the bowl. Mccoy out of at least 45- 50 d tackles due to 3-4 defenses, im good if mccoy is the 10th best. Again, i do not need the best d tackle to win the bowl. I need a team and the great teams build around their talent. Mccoy is not sapp by any means but he is at least vince worfork. Workfork just played with a better TEAM but he is not necessarily better.

  86. webster Says:

    When i say wilfork, i dont mean stats are the same, i mean impact and his legacy on the game. Teams matter