Image Is Everything

June 22nd, 2018

Intriguing legal analysis.

My goodness, there are so many stories and so many videos of folks giving their two cents worth on this suspension of America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, for a tentative three games, Joe could stay up all night and not read them all.

However, of all the stories that Joe has read/seen, the two that had the most interesting analysis oddly enough has not come from any sportwriter.

Rather, they come from a pair of lawyers-turned-TV professionals.

Of course the first one that comes to mind is the creator, curator and overall guru of Pro Football Talk, the great Mike Florio. Right away he sniffed that the NFL and Jameis’ camp brokered a deal for the three games, not the normal six games for such an offense.

Then came Eboni Williams. A former Hooters girl, beauty pageant queen and Manhattan lawyer who a few years ago gave up her practice to make more cash with less work in TV news, more recently working for FOX News (she graduated from the University of North Carolina and Loyola of New Orleans if that means anything to you). Also an author, Williams occasionally hosts sports-arguing shows on FS1 as she did this week.

Today, Williams, who used to represent victims of sexual crimes, said, coming strictly from a legal point of view, it is her interpretation that the NFL suspended Jameis not so much for what may have happened in his hassle with an Uber driver in Arizona, but for the NFL to save face.

Simply put, Williams stated what Joe had been typing for weeks: This is mostly an image issue, not a legal issue, not a criminal issue.

You can view Williams’ explanation below.

Hat tip: @GilArciaBUCS.

104 Responses to “Image Is Everything”

  1. First Down Tampa Bay Says:

    Yet Jameis Haters will gloss over this and condemn him, shoving him out the door despite he being the best QB this franchise has ever had.

  2. SB Says:

    The girl in the title pic sure has a nice image! 🙂

  3. D-Rome Says:

    …. America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston…

    I am with a lot of the other readers here. It’s time to drop the America’s Quarterback moniker.

    Simply put, Williams stated what Joe had been typing for weeks: This is mostly an image issue, not a legal issue, not a criminal issue.

    The image issue wouldn’t have been a problem if there wasn’t a character issue.

  4. SB Says:

    @First Down: You don’t have to be a hater to be a doubter. One incident in your life can be an accident, second incident can be an accident, third incident becomes a trend. Look I was on Jameis’ side until I found out that Uber informed him of Why his account was suspended. At that moment in time he should have hired an attorney and got ahead of the situation. The Very next step should have been to notify his Team at the very least that there was an accusation of misconduct. That is what Innocent people do. The guilty try to hide it.

  5. Walter Seidel Says:

    So from one factless based opinion, Jameis is innocent in the eyes of some idiots. Great. The Jameis saga is very well documented. It’s not good. At all. Look at this story from a realistic viewpoint. It should’ve been six games. The organization is privately regretting it’s decision on April 30, 2015. Dumb mistake. They knew the history. They knew the stories. They could have predicted the future. A lot of us did. Correctly. America’s QB? Joe, it just sounds stupid now.

  6. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    If I were Jameis I would ask Joe to stop with “America’s QB”. Jameis would be the first one to declare that he doesn’t deserve that moniker.

    As far as image is concerned…..I totally agree….it’s not a legal issue because she didn’t make it one that night or file a civil suit. It is an image issue and one that Jameis could have avoided.

    Given his prior reputation (deserved or not) Jameis didn’t hire a driver and put himself alone with a female late at night and likely influenced by alcohol…..that is no way to protect your image.

  7. Joe Says:

    So from one factless based opinion, Jameis is innocent in the eyes of some idiots

    Maybe it is just Joe but for anyone to get a law degree and then pass a bar exam and then to have their own successful law practice, and then their own successful TV career, that does not come remotely close to qualifying as an “idiot.”

  8. SB Says:


  9. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    First Down Tampa Bay

    I probably fall into the camp of many……support Jameis going forward but with tremendous disappointment in him for his foolish mistakes.

    I wasn’t a Jameis supporter until he became a Buc….now, I’m with him…he needs to pay his dues….perhaps get some help….and stop fumbling.

  10. SB Says:

    Damit those arrows were to TBBF’s post before admin’s

  11. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    Off early on Friday?….or is it raining?

  12. unbelievable Says:

    Pretty easy to get on TV when you’re a former beauty pageant star…

  13. SB Says:

    Howdy TBBF. Good to c u. It is raining. Hope all is good with you and yours.
    This situation is stressing. My head is spinning with JW’s decisions in life. So many things he could have done different here and that doesn’t even include the fact that he may actually be guilty. I am actually starting to wonder if we should have drafted him.

  14. Joe Says:

    Pretty easy to get on TV when you’re a former beauty pageant star…

    Sure. It’s a visual medium. When she was first hired, it was strictly to provide legal analysis, not as a host.

  15. Wesley Says:

    This all could easily turn into a Chris Hardwick type of situation. People ARE capable of making false aqusations. But clearly a lot of people don’t want to acknowledge that. Let’s let this play out before we condem him.

  16. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    Yes we should have drafted him and Jameis should have been so grateful for that he acted accordingly…..he may not be guilty of the offense….but he is certainly guilty of one or more of the following.

    Immaturity, Dishonesty, Foolishness, Stupidity

    All of the hard, wonderful, heartfelt community work can all go down the drain with one stupid “after midnight” event.

  17. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Speaking for Pablo

    “Pablo has sat silent through all of this….but Pablo must speak. Pablo thinks Haboo should have used the “Elongated Arc” defense. It has saved Pablo on occasion. People simply don’t understand what it’s like to have one of those things…..”

  18. Buc_The_World Says:

    Umm when was Jameis ever CONVICTED of sexual assault. The evidence in the first accusation was lacking which is why he was never charged. And the same in this case. i find it interesting that the two woman who has accused Jameis were both caught in blatant lies but that seems to be ignored. Yet Jameis gets no support from his fans.

  19. First Down Tampa Bay Says:

    I was no Jameis fan when he was at FSU by ANY means, quite the opposite actually. But unlike the others who have had it out for him since Day 1, I jumped fully on-board the wagon, and I don’t plan on jumping off anytime soon. You can have your own personal opinion on the entire investigation-suspension business but the fact of the matter is that Jameis is the most talented QB this franchise has ever had.

    And to the Cut Jameis crowd, who exactly do you plan on replacing him with? Fitz obviously isn’t a long term answer. Would you rather go back to the days of Josh McClown? I don’t understand your thinking…

  20. SB Says:

    Well TBBF I just wrote a super long response with no profanity or vulgarity that was moderated out. I am not going to repost it.

  21. SB Says:

    Whether JW was convicted or not is not the issue. He has a history of allegations.
    Therefore he should Not be in a car with a woman after midnight were alcohol was most likely involved. Bad decision given his past.
    Then when Uber notified him that his account was suspended for reported sexual misconduct he should have IMMEDIATELY taken action. i.e. hired an attorney and notified the team.
    That is what Innocent people do. The guilty hide it an hope it goes away

  22. Daddylonglegs78 Says:

    Bottom line is….. Winston has major immaturity problems. Like so many other professional athletes, they think they’re invincible because of their status. People dream of getting the opportunity to play professional sports and some get that opportunity, but piss it away.

  23. Steven007 Says:

    Tampa’s Mostly Starting Quarterback (see you week 4), Former Pro Bowler Jameis Winston. There Joe, I corrected it for you.

  24. Tony LA Says:

    I was one of the biggest Jaboo supporters…

    His silence is damning. He’s either getting very bad advice from his legal/PR team – or he’s waiting to speak until after the suspension is actually levied. If it’s the former – regardless of how smart this may seem in dealing with the NFL brass, it is the worst approach for the public.

    The NFL leaked this so they could sit back and watch the public opinion for a few days before making it official. Jameis is staying in the shadows to not rock the boat. If he comes out and apologizes after the suspension is handed down for anything – this is an almost guarantee that he did it and that the apology was a league face saving measure in return for a reduced suspension.

  25. Joe Says:


    Joe never wrote that Jameis didn’t do anything. No one knows outside of the driver for sure.

    You don’t find it a little bit curious that she never filed a police report but instead quickly lawyered up?

  26. I’m a Tandyman Bucs Fan Says:

    If we can cut Jaboo loose and pick up Nick Foles, I’m all for it going forward. This ( Uber thing) and winning only a hand full of games since he has been in Tampa to me is something I would not have a problem if something like Foles for Winston could happen. Im not one for kicking the dog but people there are better QB’s out there!!! Winston has had plenty of opportunities to prove himself and he hasn’t impressed me!!! Koetter and Smitty and Licht are in a pickle now and that’s a big Dill!!!!

  27. SB Says:

    @Joe…….I am not doubting you but how do we know that she “quickly lawyered up”?

  28. Fire Lichtt Says:

    Bingo.. she’s correct…

  29. Waterboy Says:

    You ain’t kidding, I like that image!

  30. Buc_The_World Says:

    See this is the problem with you clowns. Since when it a bad decision to take an Uber. Do you know how many Uber’s Jameis took without incident. It does matter that he wasn’t convicted because he didn’t do anything wrong, having consensual sex with a female is a bad decision? He had no idea this woman was going to lie. Taking an Uber is a bad decision? He had no idea this woman was going to lie on him and yes she lied! She said his friends put him in the car and that he was the only one in the car and Darby was in the car as has been reported. But let’s be real it doesn’t matter what Jameis does, if he eats a hamburger sitting next to girl well he shouldn’t be eating a hamburger next to girl that was a bad decision. What about the good decisions he has made in the community he doesn’t get any credit for that Y’all let anybody say anything about your QB and just believe it, it’s because you don’t like Jameis. Be a man and admit it.

  31. Greg Says:

    Wrong Joe. She did not quickly lawyer up as you said. In fact the lawyer that represented Erica Kingsman from college reached out to her after her story went public. She did not pursue an attorney.

  32. Joe Says:

    @Joe…….I am not doubting you but how do we know that she “quickly lawyered up”?

    Roughly hours after that Buzzfeed story posted,she was represented by Kinsman’s lawyer.

    Do the math.

  33. Greg Says:

    If I’m not mistaking Joe I think it was you that one said innocent people should never settle? Jame is Winston settled with Erica kingsman in a civil suit of approximately 300,000 if I’m not mistaken. Now he’s settling for three-game suspension. Down the road don’t be surprised if he’ll be settling again in another civil court case with the Uber driver.

  34. Fire Lichtt Says:

    Greg obviously doesn’t like America’s QB Jameis. Not a personal attack on you sir, however, I think you are very uninformed. The FSU stuff was all BS.. the state DA has been notoriously tough on FSU players. If there was an issue, he would’ve charged him. This is all about the NFL saving face. The NFL has proven it will do whatever they want. They did what they wanted and that was to save face. Proven innocent players have been suspended. This stuff will all be addressed during the next CBA

  35. SB Says:

    So Joe………Everything I am typing is being Xed out. That is four comments already and no profanity in any of them.

  36. Pickgrin Says:

    The very pretty lady with a good legal mind says:

    “This policy is going to get the NFL in a bad situation. I think they’ve got to get clarity around the threshold of proof required before they take action against their players.”

    Translation – The commissioner of the NFL has no legal right whatsoever to suspend players without PROOF of wrongdoing…

    Which is exactly where we sit.

    So many posters on all Bucs related websites today are taking their frustration about this out on Winston in their comments – when the real problem here is King Goodell thinking he can punish players whenever and however he wants – regardless of facts – or the lack thereof.

    ‘Due process’ and ‘innocent until proven guilty’ – the most basic tenants of our legal system – are out the window if a player happens to find themselves under scrutiny by the NFL and with King Goodell acting as the ultimate judge, jury and executioner.

    This is just wrong – and one day a court will agree and will strip Goodell or whoever the NFL commissioner is at the time of this King-like status. Hopefully sooner than later. The NFL players deserve due process under any and all circumstances – just like every other American – and as it currently stands – the NFL is somehow immune from those most basic of rights that every American automatically has from birth.

  37. SB Says:

    Buc the world.
    Jameis has been accused of sexual misconduct in his life. From then on you must take steps to make sure it can never happen again.
    If you are accused you must get ahead of the situation and let people know since you are the face of a franchise.
    If you don’t you are either stupid or guilty

    “Simple as that”

  38. Greg Says:

    Fire Light there’s a big difference between finding evidence to throw him in jail versus common sense. I never implied that Jay Miss Winston belongs in jail. But how many different situations have to happen before you connect the dots? Five women? 10 women? Bad judgment off the field and bad judgment on the field has been his track record since college and the only thing I agree With you on is your screen name because all of this evidence was clear in college and we drafted him regardless. There was another quarterback available with no?’s. I would love to see what Mariota would have done with Mike Evans Dishon Jackson OJ Howard and Cameron Brate to throw to

  39. SB Says:

    Joe Says:
    June 22nd, 2018 at 5:59 pm
    @Joe…….I am not doubting you but how do we know that she “quickly lawyered up”?

    Roughly hours after that Buzzfeed story posted,she was represented by Kinsman’s lawyer.

    Do the math.

    I am Really good at math. So she didn’t lawyer up until the story broke. Got it.

  40. SB Says:

    And the fact that you called me a clown for being realistic is hilarious Buc the World. Carry on with your crayons

  41. Tampabaybucfan Says:


    The Buzfeed story was Nov 17, 2017…..the incident happened in March of 2016… it would be inaccurate to say she quickly lawyered up.

    She quickly lawyered up after the story broke would be accurate.

  42. SB Says:

    And the fact that you called me a clown for being realistic is hilarious. Carry on with your crayons.

  43. mark2001 Says:

    Frankly if the woman had enough to have Jameis arrested or could prove it enough to sue him in civil court, you would think that would have happened. So I never thought it actually could be prosecuted.

    However…a few things…. Jameis should NEVER be in a situation where he is alone with a woman other than a close lady friend or family…ever. He can afford to ensure that never happens. Secondly he should have reported it to the team when she made the allegation and was notified Uber wouldn’t transport him anymore…the team would have made sure he handled it properly, and thirdly when his friend lied about being in the car with him, he should have set it straight. If the comish had to investigate the phones to expose the lie, Jamies wasn’t being straight. No…this isn’t a “three strikes your out” situation…but he made multiple mistakes. And frankly, if he wants to be a franchise QB for any professional team, he needs to wise up, grow up and stop doing knucklehead things on and off the field. For Gods sake Jameis, give Derrick Brooks a call and set a weekend to talk with him about everything…he will help you get right.

  44. Jff Says:

    Bamas Tua should be the Bucs QB in 2020. Get a McCown for 2019.

  45. Greg Says:

    SB is correct! For all the people that love Jameis so much my question is why? He has led the league in interceptions over the last three years and fumbles. I literally saw him and his ball to a defense of Lyman last year so he could walk into the end zone and score a touchdown. The guys just not very smart with his decisions on or off the field so why is everybody trying to defend him. Because he went to Florida State? Because he wears red and Pewter? If You want to feel sorry for somebody, feel sorry for Dirk Koetter! I heard people say he kind of wanted the other guy and got stuck with Winston. He may be fired soon and I doubt he’ll get another chance at head coach.

  46. SB Says:

    Couldn’t have said it any better Mark2001

  47. Eric Says:

    65 tds is one good reason. Pro bowl as a rookie.

  48. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Joe….didn’t quickly lawyer up…

    Incident March 2016
    Buzzfeed Article November 2017

    That is a year & a half……..

  49. Tampabaybucfan Says:


  50. Greg Says:

    He went to the pro bowl as an alternate because two other quarterbacks declined. Not quite the same

  51. SB Says:

    @Greg. For me it isn’t about his performance on the field. I like his potential and believe his OL and Defense let him down. I don’t see him as a reason we have failed. I think Physically he is the best QB we have ever had.
    I question his decision making sometimes on but mostly Off the field of play. Boneheaded first to be alone in a car with a woman after midnight given his past character concerns, but even more boneheaded to try to sweep it under the rug when Uber told him why his account was being suspended. My 6th grade son has more smarts than that.

  52. Greg Says:

    OK I’ve been kind a hard on Joe today so here’s a gift from me to you LOL just for fun. An interesting poll question for the website would be if somehow Fitz Patrick starts the season 3-0 do you think Jamess deserves the job back? That one’s free from me to you Joe LOL

  53. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Didn’t lawyer up quickly…

    Incident March 2016
    Buzzfeed article November 2017

  54. Season Is Over Says:

    America’s Present Laughingstock, Investigated, Soon to be Suspended, Head-Butting, Helmet Poker, Worst QB in Own Division, Losing, Captain of Immaturity, Only Seen in Local Markets, Backed into Pro Bowler Because Three Others Backed Out and Never Returned, Deep-Ball Extraordinaire whose coach would like to see an improvement on all-around accuracy, Mr. Magoo aka Jameis Winston, is an inspiration to us all. Way to start the season on a high note.

  55. SB Says:

    Eric Says:
    June 22nd, 2018 at 6:28 pm
    65 tds is one good reason. Pro bowl as a rookie.

    It is actually 69 tds.
    with 44 ints and 31 fumbles

  56. SB Says:

    Eric it is actually 69 tds not 65

    But there are 44 ints and 31 fumbles that accompany that.

  57. SB Says:

    Delayed display results in double posts. smh

  58. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Sorry for the repeats but my posts are being delayed…..I didn’t think they went through….

  59. Greg Says:

    I absolutely agree SB

  60. Frank Pillow Says:

    Joe, the analysis here is likely only partly right- sure it’s image, within the confines of the CBA and conduct policy, the league imitated an investigation. But I think the league is going to hang it’s hat less on the reasonable suspicion that he committed the alleged offense and more on the fact that his alibi didn’t hold up. What’s the difference? Well, the first is VERY hard to prove absent hard evidence. Sure, the could look at the circumstantial stuff and go from there- but that opens doors for a defense predicated on the quality of the investigation and handling thereof. The more surefire way to nail Jameis is to invalidate his contention that this was a case of mistaken identity- the forensics are much stronger there absent a criminal complaint or even a police report thanks to reconstructive smartphone tracking and related measures. In other words, some rudimentary investigative techniques can render his story and Darby’s as a near certain falsehood. So, what they actually have on him is the failure to report + false statements+ maybe even intentionally misleading investigators- the lie, not the act itself. I’m guessing if they had irrefutable evidence of the assault, Jameis would be looking at a season-Long suspension, given today’s climate.

  61. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Joe Says:
    June 22nd, 2018 at 5:46 pm

    Joe never wrote that Jameis didn’t do anything. No one knows outside of the driver for sure.

    You don’t find it a little bit curious that she never filed a police report but instead quickly lawyered up?

    Thanks for clarifying that she didn’t lawyer up until after the incident was made public.

  62. Greg Says:

    SB Is taking Joe Bucsfan to church! Preach brother preach

  63. Bird Says:

    Buc the world Was
    Formally known as “Webster.” He had to go into hiding because he called everyone an idiot for criticizing Jameis.

    Honestly , Who knows what happened that night. He was going To get 6 games and settled for 3 so he wouldn’t appeal and give nfl bad pr . Win for both sides.
    The nfl has some information that we will never hear. You know who will get full report – the owners, GM and coach.

    I’m sure in there it will at least say that Darby wasn’t even in car. Therefore he wa lying to everyone cause he claims Darby was in car …so that is a lie attached with a sexual harassment charge Looks terrible anyway you look at it

  64. Sc Bucs fan Says:

    If JW doesn’t lawyer up immediately then it says I’m guilty and I don’t want any information coming out.

    I know if I wasn’t guilty I’d be screaming it on every news site.

  65. passthebuc Says:

    Maybe it is just Joe but for anyone to get a law degree and then pass a bar exam and then to have their own successful law practice, and then their own successful TV career, that does not come remotely close to qualifying as an “idiot………

    The lady sounds like a defense attorney and we know their clients ane never guilty.
    JW and counsel know that there are 100+ million dollars on the table in the coming years. JW, if innocent would never let the NFL paint him into a presumed guilty corner that would jeopardize his next contract. His counsel would have challenged the NFL before now. There must be enough evidence that JW has no ability to legally force the NFL to clarify the charges unless those charges are in fact provable and damaging.

  66. Bucnut2 Says:

    I was screaming, don’t draft this assclown and was ridiculed on this site. At the time i said drafting him would set our beloved franchise back 5 years. I hoped I was not right, turned out I was. Bucnut haters- how about an apology?

  67. Blue-footed booby Says:

    Well looks like the third passenger has finally been identified, and Brandon Banks is now saying that Winston was alone in the Uber car with Kate.

  68. Bird Says:

    Our country is going to the crapper.

    We got a celebrity apprentice president, school shootings every other month and joebucs fan continuing to call Jameis Winston – Americas quarterback.

    What’s next? Something’s got to change.

  69. SB Says:

    Well put Frank. Well said.

  70. Season Is Over Says:

    I think Brandon Banks has some trouble of his own. Good to see Winston hanging out with such high character people.

  71. Blue-footed booby Says:

    Uh wait a minute, didn’t Winston publicly state that Kate was confused about number of passengers in the Uber car? Now Brandon Banks says he and other friends sent Winston off to the Uber car alone with Kate. Uh, even if you want to believe Winston, that cannot be good news, especially with those pesky forensic phone tracking evidence and whatnot …

  72. Joe Says:

    Holy crap Joe now I’m even starting to feel bad for you LOL I haven’t seen anyone take it this hard since the Kim Kardashian video which I have Never seen 10 times!

  73. Season Is Over Says:

    If Winston lied the team needs to suspend him or they lose all credibility. He should have been suspended by the team twice already.

  74. Blue-footed booby Says:

    @ Season Is Over

    Yeah, I agree. I mean, I just have to wonder what the hell was Winston’s “camp” thinking when they let him make that public statement in November. There is a very good chance now that the ‘franchise quarterback’ is a blatant liar.

  75. Sc Bucs fan Says:

    If Darby said he was innocent shouldn’t he be suspended too?

  76. Buchead5588 Says:

    Well said Stick Behind MyQB Stay Focused Jaboo this shall pass Got your Back GoBUCS

  77. Bucnut2 Says:

    Look Winston IF he was the LEADER everyone says he is, would appeal and risk the big pay cut next year. Bottom line, the guy is a limited talent fraud! let’s go 1-15 draft a QB and move on.

  78. Kyle Says:

    Ebony is so hot! Enough said!

  79. SB Says:

    This story broke just 38 minutes ago. This is what Banks said.

    “Winston, former Vanderbilt football player Brandon Banks and Eagles cornerback Ronald Darby were at a Scottsdale, Arizona, nightclub in March 2016 when Winston became intoxicated and “unruly,” prompting his friends to send him away in an Uber, Banks’ attorney, Mark Scruggs, told Outside the Lines. “What happened after that,” Scruggs said, “they cannot say.” Banks has never been identified publicly as being at the scene until now.

  80. SB Says:

    Well most of my comments won’t go through so

  81. SB Says:

    My comments won’t go through so google Brandon Banks story that broke 40 minutes ago

  82. SB Says:

    Brandon Banks is an awesome dude for the face of your franchise to be hanging out with.

  83. Season Is Over Says:

    In case no one noticed, it just hit the fan.

  84. Tony LA Says:

    All my comments are being blocked – but the truth is out and far worse than any of us could have imagined

  85. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Gee wiz Banks & Darby….put your drunk unruly friend in an Uber car alone with a female after midnight……..great friends!!!

  86. Blue-footed booby Says:

    Serious question: If the Buccaneers were to release Jameis Winston right now would ANY NFL team sign him?

  87. Dave Pear Says:


  88. Jbravo Says:

    Winston had to lie / cover it up.he almost got away with it.winston ,Darby lied.goodbye winston.your done in tampa..what an embarrasment.anyone involved with drafting him should be gone too.

  89. SB Says:

    This is Way Bad for Jameis. Way worse than I thought. I am starting to wonder about a statute of limitations.

  90. Mike Johnson Says:

    As for the female sports announcer? Yes..I would..(pause..clearing me throat here) buy her a cup of coffee. (smile)

  91. Buccfan37 Says:

    He was drunk, give the guy a break for a momentary lapse of reason. Some people mature later in life. No sense in making a mountain out of a molehill.

  92. stpetebucsfan Says:

    Who are Jameis’ “peeps”? Where were they? Do they not have enough influence to make sure Jameis can’t mess up?

    I’ve seen two big burly bodyguards grab their own client and restrain him. Hard telling how much money they saved that dude! If they had let him whip the other guy bring on the lawsuits. So the burly bodyguards are actually there to protect millions and millions of dollars…$$$ invested by the Bucs…$$$ and time invested by the NFL…and of course the $$$ Jameis is scheduled to earn if he can keep his nose clean.

    Here is the part that I do not get! Forget right and wrong think ONE thing…$$$
    Who on Jameis team was dumb enough to let their HUGE investment hang out after midnight in a Scottsdale club with Darby and Banks….it’s almost like Jameis got set up by his own people…they certainly did not protect their “client”.

  93. Dooshlarue Says:


    Thanks for calling out Webster on the name change.
    That’s one loser who is hating life right now.

    The season is NOT over.
    Go Bucs!

  94. Not there yet Says:

    I won’t tag him innocent or guilty but based on the evidence don’t know why it would be 3 games or less, this sounds easily like a 6 game suspension but brace yourselves bucs fans because there just may be some ugly things coming out about Winston and what’s worse is it seems like the NFL simply waited for the dead season just to keep themselves in the news…. Way to take advantage of others stupidity that’s how you make billions. If he took two rides from Uber that day the NFL already knows about it and they know exactly what times and where the rides originated. Is this why he’s doing so much more in the community than last year? Only a one game suspension for not reporting will save his image in this town

  95. jmarkbuc Says:

    SB and Bird are on point.

    It’s so messy now, whether he is or isn’t guilty is moot. This sticks with him for a long time. Again.

    What to do?

  96. Rob Says:

    The story faded from the public conscious. An image move would’ve happened in December. Another shoe is about to drop.

  97. Joe Says:

    Serious question: If the Buccaneers were to release Jameis Winston right now would ANY NFL team sign him?

    Miami and Denver would fight over him.

  98. Joe Says:

    Winston has major immaturity problems.

    Pretty much.

  99. Eric Says:

    This is now beyond repair in my mind. I’d rather be the fan of a losing team than have this criminal sexual deviant on the football team of my home town! Go back to your roach infested crap hole in Alabama you POS! WE DONT WANT YOU HERE!

  100. Joe Says:

    If Darby said he was innocent shouldn’t he be suspended too?

    One would think so. But remember, this story originated from a guy who represents a convicted rapist doing time in a state pen. Not exactly Pope John Paul II.

  101. Eric Says:

    No they wouldn’t fight for him! You have lost your mind if you think any team would want this garbage human being.
    I can tell which Joe is responding…

  102. Eric Says:

    Denial is not the river in Egypt, it’s what’s running thru the minds of Seminole fans across Tampa! Rofl!!
    Told you fools but you didnt listen!

  103. Eric Says:

    Somewhere in Tennessee, Marcus Mariota is laughing his ball$ off!

  104. Tampaspicer Says: