Corners Trumaine Johnson, Malcolm Butler Get New Teams
March 13th, 2018
Two big beasts of this year’s hearty cornerbacks class of free agents have found new teams.
It’s too bad this wasn’t the year of the defensive end!
Per various reports, Trumaine Johnson has moved on to the Jets from the Rams, and Malcolm Butler, the benched-for-the-Super-Bowl Patriots stud has landed in Tennessee. It’ll all become official tomorrow.
Dirk Koetter noted today that he’d take Brent Grimes — and he did — and put him up against any of the available cornerbacks this year. Joe’s not arguing with the head coach, but how about two beastly corners? Frankly, Joe would rather have that and no DeSean Jackson, if they all couldn’t be had for this season.
As Joe noted earlier, rising Jaguars cornerback Aaron Colvin also has a new address and it’s Houston, not Tampa.
Are the Bucs going to draft a corner with a premium pick again?
March 13th, 2018 at 7:22 pm
Rediculous!!
March 13th, 2018 at 7:24 pm
AND GUESS WHAT KIDDIES….. WE ‘AINT GETTIN’ GAINES EITHER.
Licht.. Prove me wrong!!!!
March 13th, 2018 at 7:24 pm
Glazers to Licht: “What is your plan to fox this 5-11 team?”
Licht: “Cut Doug and Chris Baker then I’m going to keep it the same, just pay some of the same peices more.”
March 13th, 2018 at 7:25 pm
2018…The “Give-up Slide” Season.
March 13th, 2018 at 7:25 pm
I think that leaves EJ Gaines as the only CB left going after.
Idk how I feel about a CB at #7 overall. Maybe Minkah if the team views him as a CB. If not maybe a guy like Jaire Alexander could fall to them in the 2nd round?
Only thing I know for sure is they NEED another starting outside CB.
March 13th, 2018 at 7:25 pm
Season tickets are going up this year too
March 13th, 2018 at 7:26 pm
Are we doing anything? J-ville making moves again! We need football peo8 in the front office period! Same players same coach’s same results
March 13th, 2018 at 7:27 pm
YOU GONNA PUT ALL THESE GOOD FA CBs UP AGAINST RYAN SMITH DIRK????? ASS CLOWN.
March 13th, 2018 at 7:28 pm
Oh my God somebody freaking punch me right in my temple and don’t wake me up til next week. I can’t handle this mismanaged team sitting around doing nothing to get better.
Joe is hiding in the bushes outside One Buc Place with his binoculars and haven’t reported one player walking through the doorway!!
The only thing the Bucs have done is have a story written about them from some dude in Green Bay or whatever. All the other team are wheeling and dealin. What the heck is going on!!!!
Joe please ban me, I can’t handle This!!!
March 13th, 2018 at 7:30 pm
RB, G, CB not a bad draft plan to 3. All those groups are deep.
If Chubb falls in your lap you better have a plan B dude.
March 13th, 2018 at 7:30 pm
Way to go bucs. Do not pay no all pro no pro bowl trumaine johnson $15 mil per year when players more accomplished like casey hayward who is a 2 time all pro 2 time pro bowler signed for 12 mil per year. Way not to over spend. I applaud you!!!
March 13th, 2018 at 7:30 pm
Rashaan Melvin could be an option
March 13th, 2018 at 7:30 pm
This team is Fing pathetic!!
March 13th, 2018 at 7:30 pm
Gown many people think FA’s want to come to 5-11 Tampa. It takes two to tango! You
March 13th, 2018 at 7:31 pm
“It’s too bad this wasn’t the year of the defensive end.”
Beginning to think that even if it was, Licht wouldn’t have seized the opportunity.
There were several players available that would have gone a long way to improving this team, one by one they have been signed to other teams regardless of their standing with the cap.
A handful of guys remain that are capable of making a positive impact on this team, but I doubt we get them either.
Licht seems content with doing the bare minimum.
March 13th, 2018 at 7:32 pm
They need to sell this team!!
March 13th, 2018 at 7:32 pm
Better go after Gaines and/or Claiborne, or there is nothing left at cornerback. Poe or Beau (Allen) for nose.
Maybe Curry gets cut. Autry or Richardson at end? Going fast.
March 13th, 2018 at 7:32 pm
Same ol, same ol.
They thought the were good to go last year. Seems no change in thought this year.
Distraction in pre season DID NOT help.
Much need in this team.
March 13th, 2018 at 7:33 pm
I know Licht and the Bucs have a plan. Can’t wait to see what it is
March 13th, 2018 at 7:33 pm
Why is R.Melvin good enough know to be on this team,he was Fing cut by this team!
March 13th, 2018 at 7:35 pm
Their own teams going out of their way to not have them play for them…How could we not give them large contracts with guaranteed money? 0-16 for sure. Fire everyone!
March 13th, 2018 at 7:36 pm
Lmao I love it lol.
This franchise is so pathetic it’s hilarious. All you people getting all mad lmao.
I just laugh.
It’s like the worst movie ever made but you can’t turn the channel.
What a pathetic bunch of people running this team lol.
Glad the bolts are playing tonight so I can see a real winner.
Most of the players on this team suck minus 3 or 4.
March 13th, 2018 at 7:36 pm
I see every ones pissed that Litch is not shopping this free agency but re-signing core payers is because the Glazers are not going to trust them with anymore money if they dont even know if the Two will even be here next yr so why let them spend crazy agin . Basically the Glazers have Dirk and Jadon on a show me contract , show me with these players that just two yrs ago you almost made it to the playoffs and get there if they do extend for more than 2yrs and that following yr back to spending I DO NOT BLAME THE GLAZERS VERY VERY SMART MOVE
March 13th, 2018 at 7:37 pm
“Only thing I know for sure is they NEED another starting outside CB.” – JoeyPoppems
Idk dude, judging by Lichts previous decisions, banking on Vincent Jackson and Luis Murphy to be key wide recievers in 2016, banking on Jacquies Smith, Noah Spence, and Will Gholston to generate a pass rush in 2017.
And now he seems to be banking on a bounce back season from Hargreaves, Ryan Smith actually becoming a starting caliber corner, a 35 year old grimes, and Undrafted Javion Elliot to be our guys.
At least that’s how I feel right now, and that’s my stance until Licht proves me wrong.
March 13th, 2018 at 7:38 pm
They don’t give there fans a lot of hope that’s for sure.
March 13th, 2018 at 7:39 pm
@ zk
Its called getting better. Unless you think a once 21 year old cant be better by 26. You know players do progress. I mean brate is better today than the day the bucs cut him 3 years ago.
March 13th, 2018 at 7:40 pm
I officially declare this board on suicide watch
March 13th, 2018 at 7:41 pm
Why am I thinking Hugh Culverhouse
March 13th, 2018 at 7:41 pm
RED FLAG, no one wants to come to the bucs, its a team going nowhere fast, licht has destroyed this team, look at the titans, browns, niners & jets all flipping to teams that will be contending and the bucs resigning 5-11ers
March 13th, 2018 at 7:43 pm
I think everyone one needs to relax I am positive Litch will make some nice FA signings by tomm when FA actually begins pump talks breaks Gaines is still out there I do hope we get him DT Allen McKinnon the rb An Jensen I’m hearing so let’s wait till tomm relax
March 13th, 2018 at 7:46 pm
@redtop
Lmao yea relax ok lol.
Must be a new fan lol.
This idiot regime of castoffs aren’t gonna do anything to make this team better.
And IF they sign anyone the idiot coaches will destroy whatever talent they may have lol.
6-10
March 13th, 2018 at 7:46 pm
Would you pay Suh $15mil a year or a top tier corner $15mil a year?
When a qb has all day to throw even a shut down corner can cover for only so long. Pressure is where you get rewarded more often with the ball.
March 13th, 2018 at 7:46 pm
Denzel Ward please
March 13th, 2018 at 7:47 pm
I just put my dinner in the fridge. I’m not eating. Going on hunger strike until this team legitimately addresses one position of need.
I’m sick of this team mentally abusing me. If they want to hurt me they can make me go hungry and physically hurt me as well.
Maybe they like it if I die from hunger and they can hurt my whole family. PHUCK you Bucs. Why do you hurt your own fans like this?
Well, I for one have had enough. It’s personal now and I’m ofically on strike!!
March 13th, 2018 at 7:47 pm
I literally have no words. Joe, your website becomes more depressing by the day. #StatusNO
March 13th, 2018 at 7:47 pm
That great Webster!
March 13th, 2018 at 7:49 pm
@jimmyjack
Well you will starve to death before this team becomes anything other than a punching bag.
March 13th, 2018 at 7:50 pm
15 mil per year is ridiculous. i am not sure what you guys are talking about.
you are freaking out for no good reason our GM did great for signing Mike Evans at that price and Brent Grimes.Freaking Watkins is getting 16mil per year.
March 13th, 2018 at 7:50 pm
So one of the greatest if not the greatest coach ever benched a “beastly” corner that we should have given a lucrative deal? How about we start building through the draft instead of overpaying for other teams hand me downs? Just a thought
March 13th, 2018 at 7:50 pm
everybody relax I’m sure we will find somebody off of somebody else’s practice squad and put him up against Julio Jones. That way we can continue to use our draft picks putting more weapons together for 🐈 grabbin Winsten.
March 13th, 2018 at 7:53 pm
When they signed grimes at 10 mil, you had to know they aren’t signing another 8 figure corner – look for a 5-7 mil range guy or draft a rookie
We were never gonna tie up 25/26 mil for 2 CB –
March 13th, 2018 at 7:55 pm
JimmyJack I hope you are fat this might take awhile
March 13th, 2018 at 7:56 pm
Grimes is only $7 mil. The other $3 mil is in incentives. If I understand it correctly anyway
March 13th, 2018 at 7:57 pm
Painted into a corner. When a perennial losing organization turns the corner as the Bucs did in 2016, then backs up and goes the other way, people lose faith that it can ever get better. No one wants to play on a losing team.
But money talks. Licht has to accept the fact that he did this, and now he has to pay top dollar if he wants talent. Get in there and turn this ship in the right direction Licht, or next season you will in the job search as well.
March 13th, 2018 at 7:57 pm
Yah.
Denzel ward would be the pick if no other dbs taken in free agency. They compare him to lattimore from same school
Ran a 4.32. Dude can ball
March 13th, 2018 at 7:59 pm
Totally agree here!! Johnson got WAYYYYYYY overpaid!!!! Hang in there everyone. If we snag EJ Gaines or even pick back up Rashad Melvin, I’m fine with that. We just need to be more competitive PERIOD!! Would like to also grab POE for D-tackle, then McKinnon as our 3rd down RB…Then I’m happy and off to the draft we go!!!
March 13th, 2018 at 8:00 pm
Ej Gaines , sitton , Jensen and /or McKinnon ?
They have so many holes. Signing own players is cool but licht better be ready to make some serious moves tomorrow
March 13th, 2018 at 8:00 pm
Looking forward to another losing season as we pay increased prices to attend games in 2018. Sounds like a good plan to me.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:00 pm
I don’t even know why in the world Litch still has a job. The only thing he’s clearly good at it’s at signing the wrong players and drinking.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:02 pm
Pit…..How are we freaking out for no good reason? This team has done nothing to bring is talent.
Now free agency is basically over and we have nothing to show for it.
And I have been patient and calm through the Quinn wiff…..Bennett and Talib wiff and now today with is missing out on every single free agent during the first wave.
There only just a few decent players left now and the Bucs owe us. But do they even care? I’m sitting over here on hunger strike over this and still nothing. Some of us, like me, are asking for much. Just one player to show its fans they are sincere about winning. Yet the only news is that of other teams. Each passing minute enrages me more!!!
March 13th, 2018 at 8:04 pm
The strategy is becoming “pray everyone overachieves and look like a genius for doing nothing.”
March 13th, 2018 at 8:04 pm
Everyone relax! No suicide watch until Friday. By then we’ll know if any FAs are signed. Still need a center, RB, DT, DE and CB. I would think Licht would try to get at least half of that in FA so he doesn’t overreach in the draft. Time to consider trading DJack.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:04 pm
Oh and the Sherman wiff…..Given the choice I would have signed Sherman over any other avialable name you can throw at me.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:05 pm
I think we’re a lot closer to winning than many believe. We only need two starting DE’s, one DT, one corner, one safety, one guard and one RB. Licht can fill these holes in as little as 3 years….
March 13th, 2018 at 8:05 pm
I don’t believe this team has a board to determine Free Agent targets. I suspect it is more like a toilet bowl.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:06 pm
Fewer and fewer tier 1 or 1A FAs left. Need to get Vaccaro in secondary with Pugh and Poe for each line. Let’s hope for Lewis or Hyde instead of the Viking’s 3rd string RB garbage as Crowell is already gone. Also a CB would need nice. I will be OK if we can get at least 3 of these, pleased with 4 and happy with all 5 positions.
Then you can draft DL in rounds 1-2 and another RB, G and CB in rounds 3-5 (one in FA and one in the draft philosophy).
March 13th, 2018 at 8:06 pm
I don’t care about Trumaine as the Jets paid through the nose … I also don’t care about Butler as I think the Titans vastly over-paid for him … the signing that sort of burns me is the Panthers getting Breeland who can really play for just $8mil a year … I would have been happy if we had landed him for $9mil per … I’m still hoping for EJ Gaines and wouldn’t mind Amukamara as a backup plan.
As for Colvin, he’s basically just a slot corner and we already have Hargreaves and Elliott …
March 13th, 2018 at 8:07 pm
here we go again, no major moves, end up signing cheap free agents that are worthless. brent grimes is not the answer. hes getting older and is not an elite shut-down corner. need to score 50 points per game just to be competitive. need new owners and front office.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:08 pm
No players will play for the backstabbers. Talk around the N.F.L is, do not go to the Bucs,until a new G.M. and a real football coach is in place. They threw a lot of money at players, to which the players replied ” i will play for free somewhere else.”
March 13th, 2018 at 8:08 pm
Everyone don’t forget we also will have Winston playing defense after he throws a pick or is fumbling all over the field. So that should help.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:08 pm
We don’t need no free agents. All the other teams are stupid. We are smart. Most of all we are close.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:09 pm
Pelvic WAKE UP!!!! Free agency is almost over!!! There were a lot of good corners now there’s 1 maybe 2 left. A few DTs are gone and the rest will possibly be signed before tomorrow.
It’s full on panick mode time buddy. I’m on hunger strike and I’m hungry right now!! If we are still sitting here waiting on Friday chances are that I’m dying of starvation. Homicide IMO
March 13th, 2018 at 8:09 pm
Bird
Just saw this stat on EJ Gaines from next gen stats…
Cornerback E.J. Gaines allowed a 48.5 passer rating as the nearest defender in press coverage during the regular season.
One of the best in the league. Guess who doesnt like press coverage? Yep good ole smitty. I’d still love if licht signed Gaines, just an interesting stat. Sign someone Licht! Someone not on the 5-11 team last year!
March 13th, 2018 at 8:10 pm
Nobody is going to want to sign and play for the Bucaroo’s unless they drop the Big Bucaroo’s and Licht is proving everyday!!! Ain’t gonna happen! TMax Rule……. 4 & 12!!!
March 13th, 2018 at 8:11 pm
Well at least we won’t be surprised by a 4-12 or 6-10 season
March 13th, 2018 at 8:13 pm
We will be signing Gaines. Licht and Koetter know their jobs depend on it. I doubt we will draft CB in top 3 rounds. They will play VH3 at nickel and hope that he gains confidence to play outside in 2019.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:13 pm
We almost signed a kicker from the skins.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:15 pm
Neither of these two are worth the price they got paid. Obviously there are issues with Malcolm Butler and Johnson had never even made a Pro Bowl.
Neither of these guys were going to get us to the promised land. We are 6-10 to 8-8 regardless of who we sign and how much we spend.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:16 pm
should have a high draft pic next year, cant see winning 5 games, bye dirk and jason
March 13th, 2018 at 8:16 pm
Come on now. We gonna eat at least a couple W’s this season.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:18 pm
Come on guys cheer up…. no one should be surprised its a bucs life.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:19 pm
Jimmyjack- you just copy and pasted the same exact comment. You guys need help
March 13th, 2018 at 8:20 pm
Jimmy jack, thanks for giving me a laugh today
March 13th, 2018 at 8:20 pm
Jimmy Jack gonna be calling Jimmy Johns pretty soon.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:21 pm
Whoever thinks Truimane Johnson wasn’t worth 15 mil but Grimes worth 10 is out of their mind.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:22 pm
The sky is falling…the sky is falling….some of you guys should have picked up Henny Penny aka “Chicken Little” for your monikers.
Indeed the sky is falling. Are they bothering to play the games this year or can we all just accept the 4-12 being forecast here by Henny Penny?
March 13th, 2018 at 8:23 pm
Mo Wilkerson to the Packers. I didnt think the Bucs would take that big of a risk with him anyway.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:28 pm
JJ we might suck again but I am ok with not doing the same mistakes every year. Our free agency pick up mostly have sucked so why should we keep doing the same thing. I rather we trade up for Chubb or Sequon than tie all those money for these free agents who will turn bust for us. Then again I want us to resign Winston next year,if McCown is getting 10mil a year can you imagine how much Winston will ask for???
March 13th, 2018 at 8:30 pm
This defies logic. Dirk and Licht are coahing/GM’ing for their jobs and absolutely nothing doing in Free Agency so far. Make the splash with Suh and a couple second tier guys and I would get it but if there is a plan in place here, it certainly wasn’t to upgrade the biggest positions of need. How are those season ticket sales going Glazer boys?
March 13th, 2018 at 8:38 pm
Grimes may be good….for one year. Trumaine will be good in NYJ for 5x yay. Math is hard.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:39 pm
I’ll say it again. We are a joke and back to being football Siberia. There’s a whole generation of players (and fans for that matter) who know nothing but losing here. Ira K’s contention that we don’t want to get into bidding wars is telling- b/c that’s exactly what it’s going to take to convince premium talent to come to this hell hole. Right now we have to over pay if we want to play.
Even more concerning is our blockhead GM and HC who really believe we’re close- so very close to peaking out of the toilet. If it weren’t for Noah’s Spence’s injury, right? We’d take Grimes over anyone, right? Any HC one GM who says that should be canned on the spot for not pressing hard to get BETTER! I’m not knocking Brent, but there were at least 4 FA CBs that are younger, better and can be part of a longer term plan- oh wait, what plan.
It’s sucks being a fan of this team.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:40 pm
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R-E-L-A-X everyone
I believe we can get Bradley Chubb or trade the #7 pick to a QB needy team for a King’s ransom, and as piss poor as Licht is in free agency, the dude is a very, very good drafter …
I’m still hoping we get a CB (EJ Gaines) and DT (Poe) in free agency but the sky-is-falling stuff in this thread is ridiculous …
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March 13th, 2018 at 8:41 pm
Nobody wants to play for these horrible owners and this underperforming team and it’s delusional coach and gm. Apparently someone will get to keep their job because they save the glazers money
March 13th, 2018 at 8:43 pm
From the comments I think the Bucs are looking hardest at signing news fans.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:46 pm
Doesn’t matter who we sign
This year is a bust
Terrible coaches that can’t coach, a GM that has a terrible track record in FA, a QB on the verge of a suspension. No wonder why we kept the staff this year, who would join a team when the starting QB is going to face a suspension and the team can’t close games.
Add a couple solid players and resign some core talent for the next coach/GM in 2019.
We got this in 2019 – LOL
March 13th, 2018 at 8:48 pm
Lil tidbits can say allot
Like : I would put Grimes up against any of these corners in FA , Well Well Moron on any given route Grimes may outperform any of them but for the full 2018 Season !!! ??? Not a chance in Hell given the Bucs D Bacfield make up that he is in the top five choices .
I will assure you that Koetter would be the minority if you were to give Coaches and GM s their choices !!! This is the Same coach Koetter and his other two ( Licht and Smitty) that clearly thought Doug Martin was their best back when the stats and film clearly and I mean clearly for anyone with any football knowledge could see otherwise!!! Yes that’s a Tid Bit that spoke volumes and the recent Grimes comment is along the same lines of blinded self evaluation, defensiveness and inability to clearly evaluate outside of yourself/ team/ friendship and this is a losing formula for the profession that these so called professionals are in. Listen and you may catch this unguided train speaking tid bits that represent allot !!!
Koetter this isn’t practice or one on ones ,this is a whole 16 game NFL season and your guy didn’t fair to Well last year health wise and you may be the only clown that thinks it’s going to get better . Koetter You Can’t be For Real !!!
March 13th, 2018 at 8:48 pm
Grimes isn’t getting 10 mil
He has to make probowl , bucs get to playoffs and he gets 4 int to make that.
Ain’t happening.
He has to play in some many games (probably all 16) to get 8.5 mil
His base salary is 7 mil people.
Don’t compare the 2.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:48 pm
jon robinson is looking more like the real brains for the bucs past good player additions… titans roster is steadily improving and we’re stuck with the status quo
March 13th, 2018 at 8:49 pm
But yah. Starting to wonder about the Jon Robinson angle as well
March 13th, 2018 at 8:50 pm
Our GM is a glorified scout and our HC would be lucky with a job in the Big Sky Mountain West Conferences. Our owners either can’t or don’t see it. The onus is on the team to prove me wrong- not the reverse. Shut me up with Poe and McKinnon and Gaines, Licht. I dare you. Make a bold move in the draft for Chubb or even Barkley. Other teams manage to be smart and bold at the same time. Why not us? why not now?
March 13th, 2018 at 8:51 pm
Ryan Jensen just liked my Tweet on Twitter “itsabucslife” hopefully that means he gonna sign with us
March 13th, 2018 at 8:53 pm
NFLNut
No one is going to trade up to 7 for a QB. The Broncos will be signing Case Keenum, they are trying to trade down from 5. The Bills has the 12th pick now, they might try to jump up to 2-3 for their QB. The Jets will be signing Teddy Bridgewater. Arizona will sign Sam Bradford, they may hold tight.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:53 pm
@Bucs55
Nice!
March 13th, 2018 at 8:54 pm
We’ll bank on Hargreaves like we did Spence…..expect similar results. Frankly, I get the impression that the Bucs feel like Winston is going to be suspended and there’s no point in investing much in free agency. We finish 5-11/6-10/7-9….this regime is done anyways so whats the point to dump a ton of money into guys the next regime may not even want.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:54 pm
No one cares who owns a team … money is money … blaming the owners is just lazy and stupid
March 13th, 2018 at 8:54 pm
I don’t know what’s worst rooting for a horrible franchise or having so many fans who can’t see how bad a job licht and the coaches do. And will y’all quit pretending EJ Gaines is some sure fire baller. He sounds like a disappointment waiting to happen. Most good defenses have great CBs it’s a position with spending big bucks on. Plus NOTHING is guaranteed in the draft!
March 13th, 2018 at 8:55 pm
Bucs55 – that would be cool, then move Marpet back to guard and bah – massive offensive line upgrade.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:56 pm
All of you who say we will suck next year will be saying how u always believed in them when they have a good year next year. It’s very hard to follow this site due to all the fans who are so against the team. But I love joebucsfan none the less, but some of you are down right silly. Paying 15 million a year for slightly above average cb is not a solid move, and comparing it to the 10 million for Grimes proves some of you have very little sense in football as far as signing players \ building a team. I hate to attack others on here, I’d rather just get a inside scoop or point of view from the Joe’s, Ira, etc..but good God some of you are totally insane.
March 13th, 2018 at 8:56 pm
Trumain Johnson was never on the radar. Corners in our system need to be small and able to back pedal. That’s not Johnson. Not surprised here.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:00 pm
Jensen would be a nice pick up, and draft Nelson if he makes it to #7. Address the oline and add a couple Dt’s then maybe next year we have a few De’s available. Also I would love to add Gaines at cb to compete with VH3 at db opposite Grimes. Those are a few options still available, so chill out we still can supplement the roster.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:00 pm
Rod munch
Yeah and then cut sweezy with that money resign marpet to a long contract
March 13th, 2018 at 9:00 pm
So many whiney, miserable, haters in here. It’s definitely the pit of misery for Bucs fans. Dilly Dilly to all of you miserable people.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:01 pm
Dan
Idk about Gaines he has not been able to stay healthy in his career and I’m tired of the Bucs paying players that come here hurt and end up gettin paid to just watch
March 13th, 2018 at 9:02 pm
I agree with DanBucsFan
March 13th, 2018 at 9:04 pm
Dilly Dilly welcome to the Pit of Misery lmao #Bucs
March 13th, 2018 at 9:06 pm
Funny how fans are saying M. Butler and T. Johnson got overpaid (which they did), and didn’t want to target them cuz of their price in free agency. But the same fans were praising the $10 mill signing of a 35-36 year old CB yesterday? Breeland’s deal with the division rival Panthers averages $8 mill over the next 3 years. And Jason Licht has competence? The guy was bragging about resigning Glanton as if he were Lawrence Taylor! C’mon man!!!
March 13th, 2018 at 9:07 pm
Y’all geniuses do realize Johnson was hit with the franchise tag 2 years in a row by the rams. But according to y’all he’s no good because he doesn’t go to the pro bowl. I see why the teams not worried about spending money y’all will support them through anything
March 13th, 2018 at 9:08 pm
Bucs55 – Perhaps cut Sweezy, but you’d still need another guard, and drafting a guard in the top 10 has historically been an absolute disaster. Three guards drafted in the top 10 since 2000, ALL were busts for their teams. You can get guards in the 2nd and 3rd and 4th rounds, at #7 overall the Bucs had better get some defensive help.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:10 pm
Oh my God…..This is PHUCKINg ridicilios!! Been checking in here all day waiting for just a slice of good news…..All day….Right,Left,Right,Left.
Teams Upgrading, making moves, power moves making noise. Other fan bases celebrating….Right,Left,Right,Left…..Our GM looks like a PHUCKING tennis net right Now!!!!
What the eff is this organization doing?!!!? Where ar3 the moves were are the Improvemnents?? What are they do8ng Somebody tell me?.?.? I. Am askin* @nd there are c4ickets. That’s because 5hey are doing nothimg!! The6 don’t care. These PHUCKINg team is standing around like 5he parliament soldiers and the rest of the league is mobilizing for the wars pof free agency!,!! I need a PHUCKING sedative…..I cant handle 5his!!!!
March 13th, 2018 at 9:11 pm
TeddyTB – Johnson was tagged twice in a row because he had a really good season a couple of years ago but the Rams weren’t actually sure if he was worth the huge money for a long term deal, then he had a good but not great season so they didn’t want to sign him again to a long term deal but didn’t want to lose him, then he had a somewhat good but not close to great season so they traded for Talib. I’d be fine if the Bucs had signed him, but he’s not better than Grimes, not for next year anyways. But as Joe says, the Bucs need (at least) 2 corners, and they only have 1 that can start right now.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:13 pm
You guys need to stop panicking – just look at Licht’s free agency record and relax, we all know that 3 third rate free agents = 1 first rate free agent! Just wait a few days for all the guys people “want” to sign, then Licht will dip his toe into the waters and see what’s left.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:14 pm
What is Simeon Rice doing?lmao
March 13th, 2018 at 9:14 pm
Mo Wilkerson to the Packers, UGHHHHH!!
March 13th, 2018 at 9:16 pm
& why must every corner for this team be under 6ft? These midgets have to play almost perfect to not get exposed by the massive receivers in the league. Look at every amazing play Grimes makes he’s diving like Superman. I need to stop posting until Suh and the last few FAs are gone. Damn it’s a bucs life damn!
March 13th, 2018 at 9:17 pm
Meanwhile the best team in Ice Hockey is getting drummed. That’s because the Bucs are literally ripping the hearts and souls from the city’s fan base.
Like a disease it spreads.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:19 pm
Jimmyjack
Welcome to reality
March 13th, 2018 at 9:21 pm
@ scbuc
Comment of the day. Cheers to you sir. I just took a shot in your honor. We need new fans before we need new players.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:22 pm
RB Isaiah Crowell is signing with the Jets. RT Chris Hubbard is signing with the Browns. It look like the Browns will be drafting RB Saquon Barkley with the 1st pick.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:27 pm
Tmax my problem is I bottle my emotions. I know I need to work on that…..It reminds me of early in the season when the players looked disinterested and we were making a habit of getting our asses kicked I bottled all my rage.
I stupidly hoped for the team to show some life. Then when we played the Panthers I told myself this was the game….The game where 5hey turn it around. It wasn’t just that they lost that game, it was the game they did it. I never saw a team get beaten down so physically in all my life…..My rage just boiled over at that point.
Luckily I have learned a few tricks……Rather then punch more holes in my drywall or smack another TV screen/remote I just put on a pot of water to boil so I can do some real damage…….If the trick works then calmer heads prevail and luckily I realized it was just sports. To date that trick has not backfired but it is not medical advice and I will not recommend it.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:28 pm
I said it before… we needed to sign two and daft one… preferably not relying on a 34 year old. So far he is 1/2, but even if we sign Gaines still need to draft one for next year
March 13th, 2018 at 9:30 pm
Crowell ran behind one of the best offensive lines in football for years now and never did much of anything.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:31 pm
Webster and SC
I can’t wait to read your excuses when bucs spend another year in basement at 4-12
Optimism is an admirable quality but blind loyalty is pure ignorance. I’ve enjoyed all excuses, Rationalization, justification and dynification of undisputed FAILURE and inaction
You guys would be a serial killers dream jurors
March 13th, 2018 at 9:31 pm
Rod you could say Crowell ran the football for a team that never had a QB that scared anybody.
I’m sure many teams played the Browns and said we are not going to let them run the ball on us.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:32 pm
Crowell is a thousand times better than anything the Bucs have. It’s not even close.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:32 pm
Miko told y’all what was going on already. Cheap behind owners worried about stadium upgrades. Y’all really think licht has some master plan and all these other playoff teams are just evaluating the free agents all wrong. That sounds absolutely ridiculous. I’ve been critical of Licht since he got here and now I see I haven’t been tripping.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:34 pm
Munch you in that serial killer dream jury too bonzi and pickgrin round out front row. You guys would find good in Dahmer… tbbf and st Pete are jury co-formans
March 13th, 2018 at 9:35 pm
I say the Bucs will be looking at 3-13 this season and I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:35 pm
The way Julio Jones shredded our secondary should scare fans that Licht isn’t doing anything whatsoever to bring in and coach top quality talent.
A tough defensive line would also make it difficult for opponent’s to throw or run against us.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:35 pm
JimmyJack – You could say that, but for a RB having a good offensive line is a lot more important than having a good QB. The Mike Shula Buc offenses didn’t have a QB either, yet Dunn and Alstott, behind a mediocre offensive line, produced year after year. Crowell was given a lot of carries and rarely did anything with it, there’s a reason Cleveland is letting him walk when they could easily afford to keep him.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:35 pm
@ teddy b
Well two of the years johnson was tagged, the rams was picked to win squat. Yea i know they won last year but they were picked to win squat. Also when players are tagged twice, that means their current team does not believe in them long term and thats why they do not get a long term deal. Real ballers get paid. Only reason leveon bell is not signed is because no rb is getting 15 mil like he wants. The rams didnt have anyone else so they tagged him twice. Thats a red flag. Its even more of a red flag that they would trade for a 32 year old cb for 12 mil for the next 2 years before they would sign a 27 year old long term for 13 mil per year. He is not that good.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:36 pm
Meanwhile, former Buc brass member Jon Robinson continues to take care of business with Dion Lewis likely to join the Titans. Let’s see….Licht’s Out or Jon Robinson? DaTwaun Bowers or Michael Bennett? The Bucs need to make decisions the George Costanza way…go with the opposite of what your gut tells you to do.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:36 pm
Pablo is judge and janitor
March 13th, 2018 at 9:36 pm
If any one person in this organization is angling to save our FA chips and cash because they feel we will not be competitive as some of you suggest, they should be slapped senseless. It’s ludicrous to write off a season before it begins. I’m not buying that ridiculousness. Licht has to have a plan and it would not surprise me in the least for us to land a huge name in FA or via trade shortly. I’m circling Suh. There’s no guarantee Suh will be released but we can guarantee his services via trade. Trade a mid round pick for Suh and then we trade down from 7.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:36 pm
Lakeland they never mentioned Crowell. Only back the Bucs have shown any intrest in is McKinnon, at least to the best of my knowledge.
Maybe you guys like him but I think that’s an absolute joke. Especially since we have ole Dirk calling the shots who must have a feature back. 80% of the league can try othe4 things but not this guy.
What a friggen joke Dirks running game is. This is why you don’t hire a coach for one player(Winston) people.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:37 pm
I’m glad we didn’t touch either of these guys. It is rare for corners to come over and be studs. I think corner is one of the most product of the system positions in football. There are only a couple elite shut down corners who would be good everywhere. But the majority are ronde barbers great with the bucs but probably would have been a big let down in another system where he was asked to play man press or others things he isn’t great at. We have been burned to many times bringing in corners that never pan out. And 12-15 million a year is a lot of money to throw around on a guy that another team let walk. In there supposed prime. Us bucs fans get caught up with names to much and I am guilty of that. But you never know a guy no one is talking about that signs for. 4 year 12 million contract could end up being the best dB out of this free agency class. I would rather bring in Melvin Gaines and Claiborne for around the same price as Johnson cost for one year. Corner is the position I would by in bulk and see which pan out. You see teams draft multiple corners in drafts and the 4th rounder outlplays the first rounder it’s a crapshoot until you get them in your system. It’s not plug and play like madden. I have been pissed all day watching all this go down. But they have to have a plan there is only 32 nfl gm jobs in the world he has to know what he is doing.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:37 pm
@ lemarcus , Exactly Right
@ Pit , the Bucs have almost no dead cap money the F agent p ups haven’t hurt a thing , not a thing so you propose the Bucs stop trying,,,,,, When Phili and New England use trades and FAgents to build a big portion of their team,,,,,, are you possibly saying Licht has a better formula than them?? …………. As I’ve said a million times most Super Bowl rosters have around 40 to 60 percent free agents and the Bucs offense for the Super Bowl was 60 percent or better undrafted by the Bucs. This team is built the opposite with a high number of draftees on offense . This team needs A high quality d tackle, another starting corner, two d ends and a RB …..seldom do rookie corners or D ends do much as rookies. O line Rb s ,L Backers And Safties are your better rookie contributors . All needs to improve are avail in F agency besides d end and you are NOT Going to fill these massive holes in the draft. You will be lucky to fill two that contribute on a high level next year. The Goal in the NFL is to win the Super Bowl and this is Lichts time to shine !!!
All three rec, Te,Rb and Qb were F agents / trade on the Bucs Super Bowl team and Yes so was the Left Tackle , oh and the Center and OH also a Guard !!! Joe I thought you were going to ask Licht this question about the Super Bowl winning offense. Oh btw the Coach was a trade also !!!
March 13th, 2018 at 9:37 pm
Gonna laugh so hard when they sign suh Gaines and McKinnon tomorrow and Thursday and everyone’s like “I see the licht” “we may be able to get a wild card” and then tmaxsays “suh is just here to rob the Glazers…jameis is wasting his career” then they go 10-6 with “family” as their motto
March 13th, 2018 at 9:37 pm
TMax still praying for you. I’ll add you using some punctuation to the prayer too. Hard to get a job if you write like you are in third grade.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:39 pm
McKinnon is nothing more than a 3rd down RB. Crowell is a feature back.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:42 pm
Sc
Now that’s not very Christian of you making fun of my punctuation
5 hail Mary’s young man
March 13th, 2018 at 9:42 pm
Brody…..I will come around if the Bucs finally get off their big ole fats butts and start addressing these needs………But this is panic mode now. Most of the good players are gone and it’s getting thin….What the newest update? Oh Mo is taken…..It jus5 go5 thinner.
I’m on hunger strike til this team legitimately fills a hole and if I die of starvation my blood is on their hands.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:44 pm
I’m hearing McKinnon is worth 5-6 million……They are not paying that for a third down back bro.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:44 pm
Suh is still on the Dolphins for now. Even after he is cut teams are gonna want to meet with him. He wont be signed right away
March 13th, 2018 at 9:44 pm
@ tmax
You are the only idiot here. You are crying about not signing johnson. Since 2012 the bucs have won the off season superbowl due to their signings and draft at least 4 times but when the season rolls around the bucs suck. Sc and my point is the bucs could sign johnson and whatever edge rusher you want and can suck again this year. And your miserable @$$ will be here next year saying how the bucs do not want to win. You talk out both sides of your crooked mouth
March 13th, 2018 at 9:45 pm
@jeffbuc I’d argue FA corners don’t work out for the bucs yes but other teams definitely get production from FA corners. Y’all have to watch other teams play some guys. I do believe some guy named Grimes was brought over as a proven free agent corner.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:46 pm
With all the moves the Browns are making and all the moves Licht isn’t making the Browns will hand the Bucs their ass in 18. Sure hope Licht, Smith, and Koetter are Superman, Batman, and Robin and come to the rescue and saves the Glazers and their higher Ticket Prices!!!!!!
March 13th, 2018 at 9:48 pm
I’ve never cared less about what happens to this team lol it’s just comical now. We’re just hoping that the draft works out and that last season was a mirage.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:51 pm
McKinnon came into the league the same year as Crowell.
McKinnon stats
Rushing | 1918 Yards | 4.0 | 7 TDS
REC | 142 Rec | 984 Yards | 5 TDS
Crowell stats
Rushing | 3118 Yards | 4.2 | 21 TDS
REC | 96 Rec | 770 Yards | 1 TDS
March 13th, 2018 at 9:52 pm
LOL!!!!! The sheep have not been worked up in such a frenzy since the truth of Jfro was exposed!!!!!!!!
Go Buds!!!!!!!!!!!
March 13th, 2018 at 9:56 pm
Realist we finally agree
March 13th, 2018 at 9:57 pm
No Change in Staff except a line coach
No FA moves
Raise Ticket price
WHY do y’all think this is????
MOVING TO LONDON
BYE BYE BUCS
March 13th, 2018 at 9:58 pm
Sometimes you have to trust the process. The Free Agency hasn’t even started yet so what we dont even know all the players that are going to get cut. Nor do we know what players and positions the bucs are aiming at in the draft.
What if Licht very well is waiting for one big time splash signing and wanting to put all his focus on acquiring Suh if he becomes available. The only real legitamate pass rusher in the FA or draft. Id rather spend that money it would have cost to get one of the (not) so elite CB’s who are being paid as if they were. The draft has plenty of Cb’s with starter quality down to the late 3rd early 4th rounds. No need to panic.
In a perfect world, They spend the money to do nothing more than fix the trenches in the FA by getting Suh and Poe for the D-Line run a 3-4 with Poe between Suh and McCoy and put Noah Spence as the pass rush OLB. Grab Jensen and move Ali Marpet back to his position with strengthens not only the position but the entire middle. Draft a RB, Safety, and CB in the first 3 rounds. Holes filled didn’t break the bank. Play ball.
March 13th, 2018 at 9:59 pm
ATrain
They will sign some free agents
Some bums
March 13th, 2018 at 10:01 pm
Webster
4-12 and more excuses from the delusional optimists refuses to accerpt reality….
I can’t wait to be entertained
March 13th, 2018 at 10:06 pm
JOE what’s DJ have to do with the lack of signing these corners. We have enough cap to keep everyone and sign a few big splash players. Putting DJ in this article seems like your reaching for something
The day we hit the cap ceiling number than we can mention cutting people till than no reason or need.
March 13th, 2018 at 10:07 pm
Make the Bucs suck again.
March 13th, 2018 at 10:08 pm
Bring in Yzerman…
March 13th, 2018 at 10:09 pm
TMax Rule……4 & 12!! !!! And you guys thought TMax was a fool but in Reality he Rules!!!!
March 13th, 2018 at 10:10 pm
SrqBucsfan
If it’s that easy why has it been 16 years without a single meaningful win
March 13th, 2018 at 10:11 pm
The Carolina Panthers will sign CB Bashaud Breeland.
3 years $24 million
SMH
March 13th, 2018 at 10:14 pm
Just read the Bucs are making $160 million renovation on east side club of Ray Jay. We get it Glazers. Trying to get more when you sell. Just hurry the hell up with it so we can have a chance of getting a decent franchise at some point.
March 13th, 2018 at 10:15 pm
Lakeland
Come on man you know better bucs don’t need upgrades every basement bum is a keeper in buc land
March 13th, 2018 at 10:18 pm
OG Andrew Norwell will sign with the Jacksonville Jaguars..OC/OG Weston Richburg will sign with the 49ers
March 13th, 2018 at 10:19 pm
tmaxcon
These top free agents are dropping like flies
March 13th, 2018 at 10:20 pm
It should not be a surprise g lazers are more concerned with the basement streak than upgrades
March 13th, 2018 at 10:23 pm
We’ve all seen the free agent spending sprees the last few years that didn’t pan out.
March 13th, 2018 at 10:28 pm
The Jags will be hard to handle next season. Andrew Norwell will upgrade that OL.
March 13th, 2018 at 10:29 pm
Tandyman- I’m screenshotting this stuff. For three situations 1. Saturday after bucs free agent signings. 2. After the draft and 3. After the 9-7,10-6 season
March 13th, 2018 at 10:32 pm
Broy3434
Seek rehab
4-12 is incredibly optimistic
March 13th, 2018 at 10:32 pm
This year’s free agency talent was virtually unprecedented.
The Bucs had the 32nd ranked pass defense.
They’ve literally added no one despite a plethora of available pro bowl talent defensive players in their primes.
There’s no positive way to really spin it.
They have not won a playoff game in 15 years.
They do not get the benefit of the doubt.
March 13th, 2018 at 10:47 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Tmaxcon describes Pablo as Judge and Janitor…..It’s a good thing that Tmaxcon threw in the Judge because that Janitor comment is racist. Yes, Pablo has an elongated arc and that could be considered racial profiling.”
March 13th, 2018 at 10:57 pm
Lol we will use the legal tampering period to resign our own guys then sign the leftover scraps. 5-11 and they think they’ll get better by signing key contributes to that record along with 7 rookies.
In many ways this season will be better than last year. Licht won’t have to worry about fan expectations, we expect you to lose big and we expect the glazers to be ok with it.
Hey glazers lol it’s a waste of time to watch the redzone channel if your a buc fan unless you can stand watching other teams score on your defense at will
March 13th, 2018 at 10:58 pm
As for being described as an optimist…..a cheerleader….well, I’m guilty. I don’t apologize for that…..you see, when you watch a team lose 26 straight games 1976-1977…..it has a profound affect.
For me, winning the Superbowl 26 years after that made up for all of it. Now I won’t likely make it another 26 from 2002 to 2028…..maybe I will if the single malts & cigars and giant ribeyes don’t do me in. But it would be worth the wait again.
Some of you younger folk are a bit spoiled…..
Now, am I disappointed….upset, concerned, pissed, confused, anxious…absolutely. Will I disparage and denigrate my Bucs……NEVER!!!
March 13th, 2018 at 11:00 pm
@ tmax
Your comprehension skills are $hi!. Not once have i said the bucs will win next year. Opptimist? Naw…i just dont live in the world of alternative facts. I know you do by continously saying im an opptimist. I just call you and others like you out. Obviously the bucs have not won, but to bring alternative facts and say big time free agents dont want to sign when vjax, goldson, revis, djax etc has is lunacey. This whole board, the stick carriers and local/national media were on the bucs bandwagon last offseason due to offseason retention, signings and draft picks. Clearly licht, the glazers tried to win. It did not work!! Guess what, whoever you want them to sign may not work either. I was one of the few that said the bucs are not there yet and hard knocks would be bad. Opptimist? Nah. Just not an alternative facts guy
March 13th, 2018 at 11:01 pm
We all wake up to Okafor , Poe,Gaines and Baltimore’s Center .
Claiborne , Robinson and Stinton plan B
Fully expect Okafor to happen , the rest is a wish list.
Rb may have to wait til draft…….😡
March 13th, 2018 at 11:01 pm
Tampabaybucfan
You are better man than most
March 13th, 2018 at 11:01 pm
Broy3434….Good deal!!! Get back to me and tell me how I did. I may be wrong but I may not….
March 13th, 2018 at 11:02 pm
Sitton
March 13th, 2018 at 11:05 pm
Sources say BIG BUCS news coming tomorrow!!!!!!
We shall see
March 13th, 2018 at 11:25 pm
i bet the bucs think they can fix har-grievences
March 13th, 2018 at 11:28 pm
It’s clear. Their job depends on last season fluke and excuses that they are banking on the same guys. It’s clear as day.
March 13th, 2018 at 11:32 pm
lol I have the feeling Licht took “can’t get any worse than last season” as a challenge.
March 14th, 2018 at 12:02 am
Thanks Tmaxcon….I’ll try to lay off you a bit….
Once you put yourself in my shoes……your perspective on things change somewhat.
I’m not a blind-eyed optimist…..it’s just 42 years of being a Buc fan…..I guess I’ve got more than half my life invested and it’s really difficult for me to give up hope…..I didn’t before and Jon Gruden (my hero)……did what Dungy couldn’t do.
Actually, last year was the toughest of the 42 for me…..I had high expectations like most and was terribly disappointed…..I’ve learned to temper my expectations……this year…I simply want us to get better….I’ll reserve judgement on that and believe most should….I’m hoping to be surprised.
March 14th, 2018 at 12:12 am
I gave Licht the benefit of the doubt when he missed out on the trades, but now it’s getting ridiculous. Either Licht sucks, or the perception of our team sucks, witch falls on Licht. Might as well trade down in every round cause we’ll need the picks just to fill out our roster. I’m usually levelheaded, but this is too much.
March 14th, 2018 at 12:16 am
Wilkerson only signed 1yr for 5 mil and 3 mil in incentives…….
I am at the point where I would have taken a flyer on that
March 14th, 2018 at 1:38 am
Half your guys opinions are just made from pure anger I’m sorry I might seem like I praise licht to much but listen you guys gotta realise he has a very patriots like way of thinking when it comes to free agency listen if there was a d end rn good enough Jason would sign him to a lot in a heart beat this top of the free agent class isn’t good fits for us Trumain isn’t worth 15 mill a year Norwell isn’t worth how much he signed for Jason has been great with the cap room and signining our keepers and vets at perfect times for good contracts Jason for the right fit tho will spend the money in free agency I’m telling you this top crop of free agents at positions we need aren’t the best but there’s still guys we can get and not everyone’s first pick is Tampa so you guy have to factor so much in Before you just blame licht for everything
March 14th, 2018 at 1:44 am
yes he needs to be more aggressive at times but also you guys need to understnad he’s gotta be smart with this money rn bc Winston isn’t paid yet here’s where we could make that run he’s gotta get the right people
March 14th, 2018 at 1:54 am
Kstoges
Who gives a rats ASS if licht is good with cap room if the bucs are permanent residents in nfl south basement….
FEAR LOSING NOT THE SALARY CAP
There is nothing positive about glazers nor licht. They clearly have no intention of fielding a respectable team
March 14th, 2018 at 7:00 am
From my position the only thing I see the Bucs winning is the #1 draft pick next year. And they would probably shop that for 2 six round picks.
March 14th, 2018 at 7:42 am
If Licht, and Koetter would rather have Grimes, instead of Butler, Johnson, they don’t know anything about talent.