Receiver Needed Badly In Draft
January 4th, 2017
Help these guys!
Yes, the Bucs under winning coach Dirk Koetter got to nine wins. Sadly, one win shy of a playoff berth.
Despite the Bucs being good for a change, only the second time this decade, there are still glaring holes.
Browsing through the roster, Jenna Laine of ESPN believes she has identified the biggest concern for the Bucs and she insists AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht acquire a top-shelf wide receiver in the draft.
The Bucs’ biggest draft need is wide receiver. They could use a true playmaker to line up opposite Evans and take some of the burden off their No. 1 receiver. They would certainly enjoy having another big body such as Evans and Vincent Jackson, but they really need speed to complement Evans and stretch the field. That is something this offense has lacked for a long time. Having a big-play threat downfield could also do wonders for the ground game.
Joe doesn’t think a “big body” is a necessity. The heralded “Dunkaneers” fizzled out pretty quickly.
Laine is absolutely on the mark when she says this team needs speed. Big time! Opposing defenses simply are not scared of the Bucs stretching the field. And good grief, another receiver is needed so teams don’t maul Mike Evans on nearly every play.
January 4th, 2017 at 5:09 am
We need two wrs. Minimum and I don’t care how you get them free agency or the draft.
January 4th, 2017 at 5:21 am
I agree they need 2 receivers. Sign a vet to be the #2 like a Pierre Garcon or a Kenny Britt and draft John Ross as the guy to stretch the field. Its early but right now im on the “draft a WR and RB with our first 2 picks” bandwagon specifically John Ross and D’onta Foreman
January 4th, 2017 at 5:21 am
Speed kills! But the wr. Is going to have to be 8 ft. Tall so he doesn’t get overthrown lol
January 4th, 2017 at 5:25 am
Sign Pierre Garcon, and draft Corey Davis.
January 4th, 2017 at 5:41 am
Speed will actually turn some of those james overthrown into breadbasket completions
January 4th, 2017 at 6:30 am
Spot on Bucco. Been thinking the same thing for weeks now.
January 4th, 2017 at 6:46 am
I was all for John Ross until I watched him play against Alabama, the next closest thing to an NFL defense. He played timid n scared. he stumbled several times on returns/pass plays. Bama shut him down. Kind of reminded me of former Bucs Dexter Jackson. We need speed n heart sort of like an Antonio brown/ODB. Oklahoma Dede Westbrook is the man we need.
January 4th, 2017 at 6:56 am
crap…didnt mean to do that
January 4th, 2017 at 6:58 am
Honestly we don’t have to get a Star Wide Receiver.just an average player with speed and good route running.leave the catching phase to our coaches.after what they did to help ME13 improve on his drops I think they can do the same for others.heck look at Berate on national attention now!among the best YEs in the league if not second to best behind Gronk. Last year no one knew he was even on our roster and look at Humph. Another example of great coaching.
January 4th, 2017 at 6:59 am
I agree, speed needed desperately. But the guy has to have some swag…he’s gotta be a playmaker after contact and catch.
January 4th, 2017 at 7:03 am
I heard TKraz saying yesterday that speed wasn’t as important as simply a tall rangy WR and I agree with him. JW hasn’t been very accurate with the deep balls lately. Speed doesn’t help that much if defenses aren’t scared of him actually connecting with the speedster. I would try to find a young version of VJax early and maybe a speedster in the later rounds as a possible 3rd receiver.
January 4th, 2017 at 7:21 am
I would say we need at least two more wide receivers but 1 could come in free agency.
January 4th, 2017 at 7:22 am
Speed, smeed!!! It’s all about separation and route running. Speed is good in the return game, but how many speedy players are great receivers? As receivers go I would take a Chris Carter over a Devon Hester at WR all day… On kickoffs and punts returns, thats a different story. Any one of the top 5 WR’s will do for a start, then pick up a FA as well. We need 7-8 WR’s going into camp that are not undrafted free agents!!
January 4th, 2017 at 7:47 am
M Floyd is doing well with NE. That was a mistake that the Bucs did not pick him up. Yeah, he could still crash and burn, but the cost would have been minimal. But hopefully not a huge mistake.
Second, I was thinking of this a few weeks ago. Can you imagine how well Jameis would be doing if he had the receivers Eli Manning has? We would definitely be in the playoffs.
January 4th, 2017 at 8:11 am
Thank you Wombat! Most speed receivers are one trick ponies and typically aren’t that great. I think many posters just get something in their head without really thinking it over. Ginn is typically who I think of when I think of speedy recievers. He is really fast but nothing special as a receiver.
January 4th, 2017 at 8:28 am
Corey Davis.
January 4th, 2017 at 8:32 am
What Touchdown said.
January 4th, 2017 at 8:34 am
TDTB: think DeSean Jackson when you think speedy WR who can stretch the field. Joey Galloway would be just about perfect right about now, and the old man could probably still outrun half the DBs in the league. I digress. DeSean Jackson is a much better example than overrated teddy Ginn. He is a bit of a nut though. Kinda self absorbed and I don’t like the fit culturally. Would rather us sign Garçon than him, although I wouldn’t complain too loudly for DeSean either.
Just don’t sign alshon Jeffrey.
January 4th, 2017 at 8:46 am
A mid round pick that has nice speed and hands would be KD Cannon from Baylor. One of the fastest players in college ball plus at least he is 6′ so he has some height.
January 4th, 2017 at 8:50 am
Agree with Tampabay and Wombat we still need a big receiver to give Jameis
a bigger Target Zone.Now Koetter was talking about stretching short intermediate passes into to big gains.My thinking is that these passes would
be crossing routes and that’s the are that’s the area where speed would really help .
No more Alvin Harper’s please. We need a receiner with great ball skills and ability to make things happen after the catch.Odell Beckam and Larry Fitzgerald come to mind.
Now , the otheroption is a player like Antwon bolden or Pierre Garson would fit in nicely.not saying go after these players but look for those skillsets.
January 4th, 2017 at 8:53 am
Corey Davis, DeDe Westbrook, and a late round project in the draft. Agree we need speed, not size to stretch the field. As far as Free agents I believe the ones worth signing will re-sign with their current teams and the rest with the exception of Garcon are all big buck crap-shoots. Build through the draft if possible. One more comment with regards to the draft, Look at the team they played on and the schedule that team had. Ohio State (Samuels) for example played a lot of crap teams. I like players who faced top rate competition on a regular basis regardless of their win loss record. How specialty players performed against the best is an indication of how they will play and hold up in the NFL.
January 4th, 2017 at 9:20 am
No to John Ross. When I Look @ him the 2 words that come to mind are fragile and fast. We are paying enough hurt players let’s not add to it. Corey Davis in the 1st D Onte Forman in the 2nd and Terrell Pryor in FA instantly make us and ELITE offence. U can’t double every1, and u can’t stack the box vs the run. Forman faced 8 maybe 9 in the box all year, cuz he had a garbage qb. How do u think he will do with 6 in the box? Terrell Pryor has already said that he wants to be in a play action offence.
January 4th, 2017 at 9:27 am
Draft a WR and keep Humphreys as a slot receiver. Hope Brate comes back strong and we draft another pass catching tight end. Humphreys and Brate really helped carry this team. Very few drops and some spectacular catches between the two.
January 4th, 2017 at 9:34 am
@dmatt and @mikeevans goat…I agree….john ross looked scared….I would love……
corey davis/dede westbrook-1st
donte forman-2nd
demarcus walker-3rd
oline-4th
dt-5th
bpa-6th……GO BUCS!!!!
January 4th, 2017 at 9:42 am
Dang I would love that draft, Corey Davis and MD Donta Foreman
January 4th, 2017 at 9:42 am
Terrell Pryor is a Diva…even his teammates hate him. No thanks
January 4th, 2017 at 9:45 am
Draft a WR in the first two rounds and sign 2 in free agency, including Patterson as a KR
January 4th, 2017 at 9:45 am
I thought we covered this months ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Buc Realist Says:
August 9th, 2016 at 10:57 am
NFL Draft 2017 WR, TE, DT, Safety!!!!!!
https://www.joebucsfan.com/2016/08/vincent-jackson-is-banged-up/
January 4th, 2017 at 9:57 am
That is joke right Genco? Just making sure because we probably have a few guys around here that think that would be wise.
January 4th, 2017 at 9:57 am
T.O is one of the greatest Wrs of all time, he was a diva. OBJ is a diva. Who cares, if he can be a ELITE#2 the diva crap is worth it. He is EVERYTHING we want. 4.3 speed 6’4 size, Explosive, high upside, RAC ability. And the crazy part is, he is just learning the position. Think about it, this guy has been a wr for 1 YEAR. He has had GARBAGE Qb play in Cleveland, he has to be the #1 for an NFL team and he still doesn’t really know how to be a WR. He worked out with ME13 and Moss last off season. All the signs point to us signing him, and I would be OVERJOYED
January 4th, 2017 at 10:22 am
@Realist,
I do not understand how DE is not on your list. Especially as a 1st or 2nd position of need. In the NFC South, if we cannot get to the QB frequently, we cannot dominate.
January 4th, 2017 at 10:31 am
@ Harry
Jaq Smith, GMC, Noah Spence, Robert Ayers. Now if Ur not crazy about D Onte Forman in the 2nd there is a guy that I think could be REALLY special named Solomon Thomas from Stanford. Please go look this guy up on youtube. #MONSTER
January 4th, 2017 at 10:41 am
Washington will keep Garcon.
We need to sign UFA Kamar Aiken. Solid young player with good size and speed.
January 4th, 2017 at 10:42 am
John Ross in the first. Guys speed is unreal.
January 4th, 2017 at 10:51 am
No to John ross. He is tavon austin. U want speed? K.D Cannon 4th round
January 4th, 2017 at 11:19 am
The Skyline Crew was good, but ASJ just wasn’t great. We need a tall speedy receiver to compliment 13.
January 4th, 2017 at 11:27 am
#draft Corey Davis!!!!! fyi Bucs fans stat line for Cordarrelle Patterson 52 rec/453 yds/2TD Adam Humphries 55/622/2YD. Evans/Davis/Humphries/Patterson/Shepherd/#6 wr may best man win. I think those 5 give America’s QB 5 completely different options to grow & get comfortable with. Major improvement IMO.
January 4th, 2017 at 11:55 am
We had Demps, which shows speed without the ball skills doesn’t work. maybe a running back like McCaffery from Stanford would certainly help the passing game as well, so we can kick Sims to the curb. Sims stone hands resulted in 2 of JW interceptions.
January 4th, 2017 at 12:00 pm
Brandon Bob – Totally agree with your assessment. I want a speedy WR but I think we NEED a “STARTING” quality running back, not just a complimentary one. I’m sorry Doug Martin is talented but cannot stay on the field(injury or, ahem otherwise) and Quizz and Sims, just aren’t bell cows IMHO. We need a real dog RB(Lagarret Blount type) and that RB needs to be young to grow with this group. Get BOTH Mr. Licht a speedy WR and a real RB.
January 4th, 2017 at 12:13 pm
@Mike,
You make a good point – same argument Joe used recently. But I would counter that where were all those DEs during the season? Smith has spent more time on IR than the active roster. GMC is a DT, Ayers is old and will be more likely to join Smith on the IR. We desparately need a wicked DE to pair with Spence, ESPECIALLY in the NFC South.
January 4th, 2017 at 12:15 pm
DK will not tolerate any head case who disrupts the camaraderie in the locker room. He’s pointed that out through this whole season. I agree with him 1000%. That will be a factor with him and Licht.
January 4th, 2017 at 12:38 pm
Build a Wall!
January 4th, 2017 at 12:51 pm
I think folks may be looking at the wrong solution to the problem…the fact is very few rookie WRs have a significant impact on their teams. There’s a lot more to the pro game and its respective nuances that many college WRs need time to become accustomed to. Jones, Evans, Green, Beckham and Cooper are the exceptions. The better option is to stick to the plan of filling immediate holes with transitional FAs and drafting quality developmental depth. We need a plug and play FA #2WR with quickness and range. Not easy to come by, but there will be options. Doing so allows for drafting the BPA (OL, S, DL, RB) and not getting suckered by need.
January 4th, 2017 at 1:27 pm
If he is there at #19, Corey Davis should be the pick.
January 4th, 2017 at 1:40 pm
I agree with Frank. We need to sign a #2 WR in FA and go with BPA in the draft.
January 4th, 2017 at 1:51 pm
Think about this. I’m assuming when Koetter talks about adding speed he’s referencing the fact the Bucs are among the worst teams in the league in YAC and RAC. Once we get a completion we basically get tackled on the spot. I don’t think he’s saying we need a 4.2 WR to come out and run a go every single play. I love Hump, but imagine if he was a more superior quick twitch athlete when we give him those designed screens. Those are successful plays already, now add a guy with crazy quick twitch ability to that and we have a home run threat, which is something our offense has been lacking really since Joey Galloway. Yes Corey Davis is an ideal fit, speed and size with excellent catch ability but I don’t think he falls to 19. I just want us to take the best player available and trust their draft grades, an hopefully BPA mixes with our biggest needs. We can address some holes in FA (Alshon, Pryor, Kendall Wright) are some of the top WRs. The main consensus is this. We need to give Winston some weapons. We need a RB, a WR, and another reliable TE. Myers is likely gone and as much as I appreciate Stocker, he offers little in terms of pass catching. Koetter has said he likes the O-line, but we’ll most likely bring in at least 1/2 guys as camp competition and they’ll probably steal a roster spot, especially because I doubt we carry 3 QBs next year when Mike Glennon leaves. We aren’t even a week into our off season. Let’s see how these pro days and combines go, get a better picture of where certain players might get drafted, then re-visit who we want and where we want them.
January 4th, 2017 at 1:53 pm
@BigHog- Unfortunately there aren’t a lot of studs coming out O-line wise, at least that I know of. They’ll have to do their due diligence for sure. WR was a need going into 2016 even with VJax healthy. It HAS to be addressed.
January 4th, 2017 at 1:54 pm
Anyone got some names to look at for O-line? I’m not in the loop.
January 4th, 2017 at 2:08 pm
Pick # 19??? Ha don’t hold your breath, Licht will move up to get whoever he has his eye on.
January 4th, 2017 at 2:10 pm
Carlos Henderson. Please just go on and have a look at his highlights. We need RAC ability and this kid looks to me to be fast enough with reliable ha es, can return KOs and his feet look fantastic!
January 4th, 2017 at 2:14 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if we trade up to grab Mike Williams or Corey Davis. Both seem to NFL ready, but who really knows. I hate the idea of giving up picks but those two would go a long way towards taking JW to the next level.
January 4th, 2017 at 2:18 pm
1st Round- WR Mike Williams/WR JuJu Smith/RB Dalvin Cook
2nd Round- WR Corey Davis/TE Bucky Hodges/DE Derek Barnett
3rd Round- DT Caleb Brantley/ ILB Anthony Walker/ CB Cammeron Sutton
4th Round- FS Marcus Maye/WR Artavis Scott/ DE Duane Smoot
5th Round- OT Chad Wheeler/ ILB Kendell Beckwith/ CB-FS Rasul Douglas
6th Round- RB Alvin Karma/ DT Charles Walker/ WR Travin Dural
7th Round- OT-OG Kareem Are/ QB-WR Jousha Dobbs/ TE Jermy Sprinkle
January 4th, 2017 at 2:27 pm
@ bucs fan man
There are literally 2 1st round Oline prospects. The LT from Bama (more of a run blocking RT) And the LT FROM Wisconsin(slightly unproven because he was a D3 guy b4 this year)
January 4th, 2017 at 2:51 pm
I like Westbrook from OU
January 4th, 2017 at 2:52 pm
Also I like Dalvin Cook but he will be gone when we pick. I like Gallman from clemson at RB
January 4th, 2017 at 3:50 pm
Licht may be listen to AC/DC, but as a GM it seems like he’s a fan of Winger.
January 4th, 2017 at 7:52 pm
How about not throwing 33 ints in two years! Let’s make every player accountable including Winston!