Slow Down!

September 14th, 2016
BSPNer says Jameis chatter out of hand.

BSPNer says Jameis chatter out of hand.

Joe isn’t absurd enough to sit here on Sept. 14 and state America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, is an MVP candidate. Not this year.

Some believe that, including Jameis’ teammate, Gerald McCoy. Dan Graziano has heard this chatter too and believes folks need to take a cold shower. He stated as much in a piece on BSPN.

Tone down the Jameis Winston MVP talk

Until we see how he does against a real pass rush. Winston is for real, there’s no doubt, and Tampa has every reason to think it’s got its quarterback of the future. But not every team the Bucs play is going to make him quite as comfortable as the Falcons did.

That is fair, but wait a minute now. True, the Dixie Chicks don’t have much up front. When Adrian Clayborn and his dreadlocks are the scariest thing on the line, that doesn’t say a whole lot.

But folks tend to forget the Bucs’ offensive line allowed the fourth-fewest sacks in the NFL last year. That same line, which then featured two rookies, returns virtually intact. Yes, Jameis wasn’t sacked Sunday. So was that because the Dixie Chicks’ front line stinks out loud or could it possibly be the offensive line of the Bucs is fairly good?

To hear McCoy talk about Jameis on SiriusXM NFL Radio yesterday, click the orange button below.

14 Responses to “Slow Down!”

  1. Defense Rules Says:

    Jameis looked really comfortable moving around in the pocket I thought … leads me to believe that he has a great deal of trust in our OLine. Looking at the plays’ breakdown on PFR, he was incredible in the short passing game (20-for-25 … 80%). Looks like he definitely favors throwing to the right side (12-for-14) more than throwing to the left (5-for-7) or middle (2-for-3). (Interestingly, the opposite was true in Sunday’s game for Matt Ryan). Martin & Sims did an incredible job catching the rock (8-for-8) by the way. Wondering now if the effectiveness of the short passing game kept the Falcon LBs at home (didn’t appear to be many blitzes).

  2. 1sparkybuc Says:

    I guess four out of five qualifies as virtually intact but losing Mankins has have a negative effect. Hopefully the rest of the OL has progressed enough to offset the impact.

  3. Espo Says:

    If that false prophet up in Charlotte can do it without ashred of respect for the game, why not Jameis?

  4. JAB83 Says:

    So why have a Heisman watch if we can’t have a MVP watch???

    Seriously, WEEK ONE’s MVP was JW. 15 weeks to go!!!

    Also something to remember to go along with the Joe’s comments on the Oline and them having given up the forth fewest amount of sacks last year. JW as a rookie took some bad sacks. His feet froze a few times and his early season picks caused him to hold the ball a little longer in some cases.

    NOW, consider the fact this Oline is more experienced and arguably stronger with a younger core. JW started the season in grand fashion and his confidence and trust in both the Oline and WR’s have got to be at an all time high. He is more aware of what to do with the ball when things break down. As well as the fact he is more free to check out of plays when he see pressure.


    JW takes down the MVP of BOTH the season and Super Bowl in his second season.

    I don’t care if he is throwing to pop warner kids. He will find the skill kids and get them the ball with a chance to make a play… MVP style

  5. Bob in Valrico Says:

    @defense rules
    that was pretty much my take after watching him last year.Iwould give him high marks for middle and right side accuracy.But he missed Evans going down the left sideline a number of times.Going against the headhunters from Denver will be a real challenge.This will be a game to measure the growth of Jameis.Footwork may also have been a large part of problem to left side last

  6. JAB83 Says:

    Oh and I forgot to mention… JWs footwork game one look Payton Manningesk.

    Meaning the dude can stand in the pocket and dance around would be rushers.

    To me this is the biggest noticeable difference. Which I believe is a direct result of him losing some weight. He looks real light on his feet vs years gone by

  7. Buxfan Says:

    Watch the game again. #93 Dwight Freeny was putting a lot of heat on Jameis until he wore down. That first half was pretty bad for the line.

  8. Tampa Tony Says:

    Definitely glad we have #3 but he’s no where near a MVP candidate unless this team makes the playoffs

  9. Dave Says:

    Exactly. His pocket presence was better than last year and, as s rookie, it was damn good last year.

  10. LargoBuc Says:

    If Jameis lead the team to another win on Sunday @ARI, then I would say there every reason to expect a playoff berth. Cards are the most stacked and second most well coached team in the league. If we can pull out a win in their house, who on our schedule can stop us? Denver, Carolina, that’s really the only true contenders we face.
    Of course winning this game will not come easy. Not at all. But I could see the headlines: “Should 0-2 Cardinals be concerned?” And they play man coverage, so there will be potential for big plays if Peterson us left one on one vs Evans.

  11. pick6 Says:

    he’s right, next week will tell us a whole lot more. not just a more talented defense but a vastly more experienced one. protection aside, the bucs exploited 2 rookie LBs in their first real NFL game – a big reason most of the passing game success was with RBs and TEs. Kudos to Koetter and Jameis for picking on the weakness like a good offense should, but veteran defenders in the heart of the defense (like the ones who ran back JW’s pick sixes last year) will be a truer test

  12. Erik w/ Clean Athletics & United Games - a new 'Interactive' Fantasy Sports app by the makers of Madden Football Says:

    I definitely think Jameis can win the MVP this season.

  13. Pickgrin Says:

    If Jameis goes ballistic with 45 TD passes and 7+ TD runs with 15 or fewer Ints – then yea – maybe. But thats not going to happen because we’ve got a strong running game that will be utilized consistently.

    In order for Winston to have a legit chance at the league MVP title this year – The Bucs would need to make it to the Super Bowl on top of Winston having a fantastic season. Ala Crybaby Cam last year.

    Of course – anything can happen if your QB and team get “hot” at the right time late in the year. Ask middle of the roadish QB Eli and the ’07 Giants who squeeked into the playoffs as a wildcard at 10-6. They won 3 playoff road games including the 1st here at Ray Jay and went on to defeat the undefeatable 18-0 Patriots in the Super Bowl.

    And yes Bucs fans. Sadly, that Bucs playoff loss was the last time this team has even sniffed an opportunity at winning another Lombardi trophy.


  14. DB55 Says:

    But not every team the Bucs play is going to make him quite as comfortable as the Falcons did.
    Jameis was still limping on Sunday vs the Falcons. He’s been limping since ps last year. Although, must admit, he is a pimp.