Bucs, Martin In Talks
January 1st, 2016
Bucs fans have sweated over whether soon-to-be free agent Doug Martin will play with Tampa Bay next year.
The Bucs don’t plan to wait and see. Per Woody Cummings of The Tampa Tribune, both parties have launched negotiations on a new pact.
Martin and Bucs general manager Jason Licht have acknowledged that discussions designed to keep Martin from hitting the free-agent market already have begun.
“We’ve already talked a little bit,’’ Licht said. “We will definitely be talking (more). We’d love to have Doug back.’’
The Bucs, frankly, have the hammer here. At worst, Martin can be slapped with a franchise tag.
Joe isn’t concerned. One way or another, Joe is confident Martin will return next season.
January 1st, 2016 at 4:01 pm
3 year deal with a team option for a 4th for 5-6 mill a year
January 1st, 2016 at 4:17 pm
The fact that Dougie wants to stay here is a wonderful sign! Now hopefully one side isn’t too stingy and the other too greedy!
January 1st, 2016 at 4:27 pm
I sometimes wonder during negotiations like this, depending on the situation, if the future of the team has anything to do with a player being more willing to stay, even if he could get more money elsewhere. Or, is it all about the money and has nothing to do with the player really wanting to be a part of the growth when a team is on the rise like we are. Hope he sticks around, hope he gets what he wants/deserves. Hey Licht, it ain’t your money, so spend it.
January 1st, 2016 at 4:37 pm
I think the muscle hamster will get about 6 mil a year for four years with maybe a 8 mil signing bonus. His up and down years will not get him a huge contract……I’d be surprised if he did get offered more…..that’s what I think the BUCS will offer him.,
OR
You could have some crazy team like the browns or Texans offer him something like 8 to 9 mil and year with a 12mil signing bonus cause they want a top rusher.
Will doug take less and stay with the BUCS????
OR
Will he take the money and run???????
January 1st, 2016 at 5:01 pm
Nice. We cant let the Dougernaut go.
January 1st, 2016 at 5:09 pm
PAY THE MAN
January 1st, 2016 at 5:15 pm
Licht says to Martin: do you wanna retire a Buc???
Martin says: depends, is lovie going to be fired for a “real coach”!!!
January 1st, 2016 at 5:20 pm
The article isn’t about Lovie….there are plenty of them that involve him.
I am starting to believe that the Realist is a complete moron….first it was the “Pop Star”..now it’s Lovie….who’s next?
As for Martin…..he will stay because he likes it here…..Loves Jameis & Koetter….and probably Lovie too….
January 1st, 2016 at 5:27 pm
I wonder how much the Demarco Murray effect will be seen this year. That guy led the league in rushing, took a big check and didn’t fit with the new teams style of play, ended up 3rd string. Its a cautionary tale for would be free agents and teams shopping for players. You can’t assume that players talents will automatically translate to new teams with different systems. Sometimes it’s better to stock with what you know works. And for both Doug and the Bucs, this works!
January 1st, 2016 at 5:28 pm
I love that we are working towards signing him. And off topic, I would trade this year and next years first round for mccafrey from Stanford.
January 1st, 2016 at 5:34 pm
That’s the story of 90% of FA signings. I’m flabbergasted by the last comment. Utterly speechless.
January 1st, 2016 at 5:42 pm
Tnew
What are u smoking, and can I have some PLEASE. Lol
#FIRELOVIE
January 1st, 2016 at 5:49 pm
Anybody, as a sophomore that breaks Barry Sanders record yards from scrimmage, might, just might, be special.
January 1st, 2016 at 5:58 pm
Given his ability to run the ball in the 2 seasons prior to now?
I’d franchise him instead of a long term deal. Perhaps that’s just me idk.
January 1st, 2016 at 6:02 pm
Tbbf you don’t have to start to believe simply know he IS a complete Moron! When Lovie turns the team around and the Bucs are relevant full time we won’t have to read his his rhetoric so much except when they lose. Like now when they’ve played well and won most of the roaches run back into the cracks and you don’t hear jack from them until they don’t then they come out full force.
January 1st, 2016 at 6:06 pm
David…Realist has been on this site since it’s inception. He’s heard guys like you tell him the same stuff about Rah and Schiano. I’m pretty sure he’s going to still be around no matter what.
Lovie’s GONE in 2016!
January 1st, 2016 at 6:10 pm
87 just like your kinfolk up here you have short memory. You don’t know that he has been injured the last two years? What rock have you been under? I haven’t even watched a tenth of the games you have and know that! The last few games last year proved he was back to form that’s why I wasn’t surprised about this season. There is nothing left to prove. We let him walk we gotta pay someone new to do it. He has earned a good payday from us it’s as simple as that!
January 1st, 2016 at 6:11 pm
Buc1987 is right!!!
I was in Baghdad when you were just in your dad’s bag Tampabaybucfan!!! or however that old joke goes!!!!
Who’s next, whoever does the Bucs the most harm is who!!!
Merry New Year Everyone!!!!! (except lovie)
January 1st, 2016 at 6:12 pm
Hey 87
Since when did you become the protector of Realist…..his posts are moronic….just because you now don’t like Lovie doesn’t make him a genius.
How about Joe setting up a forum for Lovie Haters….you can post to each other anytime day and night…..bitch, bitch, moan, cry, whine….vomit etc.
Spare us the misery the entire off season…..I will rally like-minded posters.
January 1st, 2016 at 6:13 pm
Yeah I know sometimes it’s fun to say it any hows! He’s like that nervous tick that just so annoying and won’t go away
January 1st, 2016 at 6:23 pm
its only annoying cuz its usually true.
January 1st, 2016 at 6:23 pm
Tbbf pain let’s you know you’re alive and he’s that pain that let’s you know you’re a Bucs fan. Even if we go 14-2 next year with a Super Bowl win they will still call for Lovie to be fired.
January 1st, 2016 at 6:31 pm
Couch only in your little world it is. You guys are so short sighted you don’t see a bigger picture. Raheem Schiano and Dominik messed this team up for years. It took two good drafts from Lovie AND Licht and the hiring of Koetter to turn the offense around. So why can’t you people see it’s gonna take time for the defense? ??
January 1st, 2016 at 6:43 pm
@Realist
I was at MacDill when your Father was in diapers…..so don’t lecture me….if you have an IQ over 70…I haven’t seen it in your posts…they are boring, repetitive and monotonous… and that is being kind. I usually don’t resort to name-calling because I don’t personally know anyone on JBF….but I can certainly describe their posts….yours are laughingly obtuse and are written with the mind of an imbecile.
January 1st, 2016 at 6:48 pm
Listen….I don’t disagree that Lovie has done a poor job….but I seem to be the true realist here…..he is here for the 2016 season….period. Deal with it…..but spare us the vomit multiple times on a daily basis…..don’t use every single article and every opportunity to show your ignorance. And…..if you continue…you can look forward to me calling you out on it on a regular basis.
January 1st, 2016 at 6:52 pm
They are written that way so that the “sheep” can digest them! And I really don’t care how many toilets you cleaned at MacDill!! But thank you for your service!! And normally I do not mix it up here either as you cannot talk sense to the senseless!!!
I am here to talk football!!!!
Merry new year to you anyways!!!!
January 1st, 2016 at 7:04 pm
@ Realist….
That’s just the point…you don’t talk football….you use every single article to express one single view….I believe you do that because you don’t have a clue. Start talking football and you won’t be attacked….keep doing what you’re doing and you’ll either have to “mix it up” or just take it up the a$$….which you probably wouldn’t mind.
January 1st, 2016 at 7:27 pm
Well, you will not like my New Years Resolution then!!! If lovie is not terminated after next Sunday’s game, You will see the “real” Buc Realist!!! I have been nice and tolerant the last 2 years!!! Its time to “move some furniture” as they say!!!
January 1st, 2016 at 7:30 pm
It’s possible to be a big Bucs fan while taking them to task for fan perceptions of a train that has run off the tracks.
January 1st, 2016 at 7:32 pm
@ Realist
Then you won’t like mine either…..it is to attack anyone who doesn’t accept reality.
January 1st, 2016 at 7:35 pm
May you be as gracious in your losses as lovie on Sundays!!!!
January 1st, 2016 at 7:47 pm
We have Dougie already. I’d take a big bruising back like Henry over McCaffrey in our situation. Can you imagine that 3 headed monster with Simms? But na, we have to use this draft on D over O. The only O drafting I would do is Taylor Decker if he fell to us in the 2nd (wont happen) or Drango if he’s still there mid to bottom of 2nd and we use some picks to move up and snatch him as our 3rd pick. First 2 picks DB and DE.
January 1st, 2016 at 8:26 pm
@bucrealist
You’re a plain idiot if you think he’s getting fired after this season.
He’s here next season no matter how much your cry
Baby as s bit ches and moans so stfu you whining bi tch.
Support the team or go choke on a di ck.
Go watch soccer or water polo.
January 1st, 2016 at 8:45 pm
Alright here it is….Ogbah #38 OSU is on primetime right now……could very well be our 1st pick. Im watching closely!!!!
January 1st, 2016 at 9:19 pm
Good news for both sides. Who’s his agent? That’ll be telling.
January 1st, 2016 at 9:31 pm
Martin will be a good retention….he works harder than anyone on the field….he likes Tampa…..he’s got a great character….and is talented….barring injury….he’s the real deal.
I am confident he will be a Buc.
January 1st, 2016 at 9:34 pm
I am watching Ogbah tonight and color me not impressed. Slow get off, no real moves and not great effort or persuit. Just one game but it Is against good competition and so far he had been single blocked all but one play and nothing.
January 1st, 2016 at 10:05 pm
agreed ndog.
January 1st, 2016 at 10:13 pm
Did you see Bama’s DE Jonathan Allen last night? He was getting after it. I would place him above Ogbah right now….and their CB Cyrus Jones could probably be had in the 3rd.
January 1st, 2016 at 10:15 pm
Jason Licht opening talks to resign Martin is a good sign that perhaps he gets it. Good teams keep their good players and add more to the roster. Returning this line, Martin, Sims, our TE’s, Evans, Jackson (hopefully) and Jameis, gives us a truly formidable offense heading into 2016. Just do it!
And btw, Christian McCaffery is a true sophomore and therefore ineligible for this year’s draft. But I bet he wins the Heisman next year and becomes a high first round pick. He’s a special player. Speed, hands, great vision. He could be a really good back and play WR as well. Hopefully, we won’t be anywhere near the top of the draft when he declares.
January 1st, 2016 at 10:37 pm
I like the Bama guy. The only thing is can he play in 4-3? We don’t want another Dt in the first round. Would rather get a guy like Ramsey or VH3 in the top of the first. If those guys are gone already I wouldn’t mind trading back 5-8 spots.
January 1st, 2016 at 10:42 pm
So so called realist since Lovie won’t be fired after this Sunday why don’t you just become a fan of a different team? I’m sure any team accept Cincinnati Bengals or Detroit Lions will suit your fancy. Actually the Patriots sound more like your kind. So the ‘real’ realist is going to come out? You gonna type in your hood and add some color to your posts? Lol pull the panties out of the crack I said color! You call yourself a realist but you’re anything but if you think Lovie will be fired this season.
January 1st, 2016 at 10:47 pm
DavidbigBucsFan…you prove yourself to be a FOOL!
Martin was playing like CRAP in 2013 BEFORE the injury.
Exactly what injuries did he have last season?
January 1st, 2016 at 10:49 pm
David…I think this site’s been up and running for about 6-7 years now.
Realist was one of it’s first commenters. Period. That’s a quite a lot of years buddy.
Sorry Joe if it was longer, but the point was made.
January 1st, 2016 at 11:03 pm
“It took two good drafts from Lovie”
David I don’t consider that first draft all that “good” as you put it.
Can we talk about Lovie’s idiotic in game decisions and all the FA money he threw away on scrubs that are not even on the team anymore?
This coach has made SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many boneheaded moves in 2 years he makes Schiano and Dom look like Bill Walsh and DeBartolo.
I think your simply one of those fans that sees what they want to see instead of what’s actually happening on the field. Good for you. Stay chipper all you want, but when it comes to JBF you better get used to the dissenters because there are many.
It’s going to be loooong offseason on this site. Lot’s of fans will b*tch the entire offseason about Lovely Smith and his boneheaded moves.
January 1st, 2016 at 11:04 pm
Peo
January 1st, 2016 at 11:17 pm
Okay you got me there.
From Twitter 2014 Roy Cummings :
Bucs RB Doug Martin said today that he is back to 100-percent and is anxious to get back on the field and prove he’s still an impact player
1:43 PM – 25 Sep 2014
You got me there, but he was BACK to 100% and what?
Really you don’t have me anyways. I had season tickets in 2012 and Martin kept plowing into the line with his head down the entire season. Lots of 2 yard gains. YES before the INJURY. So no you don’t really have me.
Let me also add that I have Martin’s jersey. So I’m a Dougie fan, and that’s no BS. I just don’t think it’s prudent to drop a ton of money in the lap of a 4th year vet that had 2 good seasons with a 2 year gap in between. There’s no harm in tagging him vs signing him to a longer deal and then the Martin of 2013 rears his ugly head again.
I’ll tell you what. I’m still willing to take wagers THIS early that the Bucs finish with 6 wins next season as well. if you or anyone else would care to bet with me that they win more, just answer me back. I make my prediction from watching Lovie coach this team on Sundays. Which judging by many of his supporters comments, they must have went fishing or golfing while the game was on. I don’t even count the dumb FA moves that have been made. That like I always say, makes me want to vomit.
January 1st, 2016 at 11:17 pm
Oooohh! Thought you had an ‘ah ha!’ moment didn’t you? Actually you’re the fool 87 he was injured during training camp and it got worse the more he played. He never healed properly until the end of last season when he came back to form. It was apparent to anyone with eyes to know he wasn’t running well because he didn’t trust his legs to make the cuts he was making 2012 and this year. He didn’t simply magically forget how to run or lose the heart he showed in 2012. In your rush to prove someone wrong you’ve proven youself the fool. 2015 proves he has been injured because he would be the clear cut rushing leader if Koetter hadn’t pulled the plug on him too early in some games. So try again young man!
January 1st, 2016 at 11:31 pm
87 you saying he drops his head then runs straight forward proves my point he didn’t trust his legs because look at how he ran at the end of last year and all of this year. He is truly back to form anddeseves a good second contract.
January 1st, 2016 at 11:41 pm
It really doesn’t prove your point he was dropping his head from the start of the 2013 season first game on, no injuries going on or anything. He didn’t get injured until what mid-season?
If you want to go the injury route then fine. Why sign an injury prone RB to 4-5 more years?
January 1st, 2016 at 11:50 pm
He played in 6 games prior to injury in 2013 and averaged around 75 yards per game. I’m no Dougie hater. I DO have his jersey, so I’d like him to stay or the jersey goes in the trash. That’s what I do if the player is no longer on the team. I don’t walk around wearing my Barrett Ruud as an example jersey like some fans do.
Tag him. See if he can have back to back good seasons. Then sign him to a whopper.
January 1st, 2016 at 11:54 pm
I still question wheter he was all that hurt to begin with in 2014. Lovie, if you haven’t noticed does not like players that he didn’t pick and Lovie did draft Sims for a reason. I think that reason was because Martin wasn’t his choosing.
“We were 4-12 last season” – Lovie Smith repeatedly and SMUGLY said when he was hired in 2014 only to go out and put up 2 W’s the whole freaking season with NO home wins.
January 1st, 2016 at 11:59 pm
“We don’t expect our fans to be patient” AND “We were 4-12 last season.”
Our HC is a fraud and a hypocrite on top of it.
January 2nd, 2016 at 12:04 am
Doesn’t matter anyways Lovie’s GONE after 2016….mark it down.
January 2nd, 2016 at 7:32 am
87, I agree with your prediction. I think 8-8 is max if everything goes right.
January 2nd, 2016 at 7:33 am
87, it’s not about the future; it’s always about the future… Lovie Smith.
January 2nd, 2016 at 7:51 am
Doug should get paid and stay a Buc. Next year The Bucs offense will be better. A year under Koetter system and we will start to watch players reap the benefits. Even if Doug splits time with C. Sims they both can have productive years for years to come. To see Doug back this year and accomplish the goals he did made watching games that much better. Contract year or not, Doug didn’t let us down. The guy played hard on every play and the o-line loves to block for him. This year was another let down. Ones that us Buc fans have seen for too long. I have to say that this year it was bearable to watch the games. If we finish 7-9 thats not as bad as the last couple of years.
January 2nd, 2016 at 9:31 am
Intuition and being-a-very-long-time-fan tell me DKoetter has already told Lovie get the Muscle Hamster back for next season. Koetter could care less about Lovie’s ego. He’s building a for-real offense. Go Bucs and Koetter Sunday!!
January 2nd, 2016 at 9:47 am
87, I dont think injury was the reason he struggled in 2014. We had Mccown at qb, and rarely did anything when defenses stacked the box, so they could sit there and stop the run while Mccown shat himself, rarely forcing adjustments to be made. And our oline sucked. Thats what I saw. Zero speculation, it took place on the field.
January 2nd, 2016 at 9:49 am
I don’t see how 6 or 8 wins is even possible next season. There will be new players (another learning curve) and a much more difficult schedule.
January 2nd, 2016 at 10:37 am
@Hire Jimbo, I want Ramsey too if he’s still there. Allen can play DE and could be there in the 2nd. I still havent done enough homework on VHIII.
January 2nd, 2016 at 5:26 pm
I’d like to see what Dougie could do behind a real OL like Dallas’.
January 2nd, 2016 at 8:22 pm
I would like to keep Doug, if the price is right. Let’s face it, except a few special guys a good Oline makes for good RBs, would hate to eat up too much cap and have Doug go back to his usual non rookie year ways…