New Identity = Deep Shots At Washington

October 12th, 2015


The Bucs pound the rock successfully and throw a lot of screen passes. It’s beautiful, glorious football, Lovie Smith said today.

But in the NFL there’s this thing called a defensive coordinator, a dude paid to stop offenses.

Former Bucs guard Ian Beckles (1990-1996) discussed this today on WDAE-AM 620. Beckles’ point was that the Bucs now have an identity on offense — finally! — and there’s no doubt they’ll have to play off that in Washington to go 3-3.

The deep ball must come back, Beckles said, an aspect of the Bucs’ game that hasn’t been on display.

Yes, Mike Evans failed to hang on to another ball that hit him in the chest yesterday. Vincent Jackson was largely ignored or wasn’t open. And the Bucs don’t have a tight end available that can scare a defense.

Regardless, Beckles is correct. The Bucs likely need to open up the game to win after their bye week. It’s a very safe bet that the Redskins will force Jameis Winston, America’s Quarterback, beat them. The Skins (2-3) also are a heck of a lot better than the woeful Jags.

21 Responses to “New Identity = Deep Shots At Washington”

  1. DB55 Says:

    LVD needs to take them to the jug machine for some practice time apparently that works.

  2. JAB83 Says:

    Hey Joe, what’s the status on ASJ??? My math has him back for the Washington game??? He was my X factor for the BUCS winning a bunch of games this year… Would be awesome to have him back for this one so he can get ready for the Dirty Birds…. What say you give us the down low on him at some point soon please sir’s…. Thanks in advance!!!

    No status yet. –Joe

  3. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    I’m officially worried about Evans. Hasn’t looked good all year. Seems to be in his head, and he appears to be incredibly frustrated. We need him to win games.

  4. Soggy Says:

    It’s kind of funny the the things we thought were going to be easy [ twin towers etc.] and the things we thought were going to be trouble [ Oline etc.] turns out to be the other way around.. Welome back barth..

  5. rhenry Says:

    Yeah, Evans needs to stop complaining to the refs for pass interference after each ball he drops. He needs to take it like a man and concentrate on his game.

  6. @FamousBroy3434 Says:

    I’m slightly worried because Jameis has a cannon and its contributing to the drops. Now him not mossing the defender for the TD was inexcusable. But don’t forget people we still loved the ball. Don’t care if it’s against Jacksonville they are a defensive team no doubt. Yes missing fowler but they’re an NFL team.

  7. Larry Says:

    Maybe he didn’t spend enough time with Randy Moss.

  8. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    Don’t count on any injury status reports from Lovie…..we will know if ASJ starts practicing….

  9. JAB83 Says:

    One reason why Mike Evans is not Mike Clyton nor Mike Williams!!! His last name is Evans… And word has it… He is an all around better receiver than the other two… Which means he has the ability and drive to bounce back from tough stretches in his game… Not to mention, being down your big time TE (ASJ) compounds the issue… Look for Mike to have a big game every week without worry…. The dude will istablish himself long term on this team with big numbers… Also some of it is on JW being a took…. Don’t hear anyone stressing V Jax and his numbers….

    Wait for the entire gang to be together before you analize to much….

    ASJ will be back soon enough… Thanks for the update Joe

  10. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    Don’t throw it to Mike “Stone hands” Evans……….aka Michael Clayton

    ….he got the “V-drops” that VJ had last year now

  11. vegabuc Says:

    Mike Evans is in a slump but he will bounce back (I hope so). The ones that worry me is our secondary. If they keep it up they gonna cost a lot of winnable games to this team. Offensive line is improving every game, defensive line is among the league leaders in sacks, we have two above average running backs, and our tight end is almost coming back. If jaboo keeps playing like he did Sunday avoiding unnecessary mistakes, we might surprise so people after all.

  12. Bucs Fan Since '76 Says:

    Sophomore slump for Evans, but we will find out after the season that he has been struggling with an injury, very likely the hamstring. He is not getting any separation. He has zero YAC, and he cannot jump. That is evidence of a serious hamstring injury. Hopefully, he can heal up some more during the bye week and be ready to go at Washington.

  13. Mo_Downs Says:

    Dye is the only WR on our active roster that has “legit” 4.4 speed. Track speed and game speed are 2 different things. VJ and ME have “legit” 4.7 game speed. Not too many teams are going to go man2man on either of them without safety help deep.

    That leaves either Dye or Murphy to the run deep routes. The only way they’re getting open deep is a blown zone coverage. Dye getting open deep would be a career-ender for some sad sack DB.

    Sims had an open field in front of him, hit warp speed…and was run down by a LB, for cryin’ out loud. Welcome to the NFL, young man.

    I trust Koetter/Lovie to uncork the “Bomb Genie” when it will be most effective (D&D) and have a high probability of success.

    ATC, Evans is still playing like he has a sore hamstring. I hope we don’t throw too many deep jump balls (OPI?) his way.

    I wouldn’t trust Jameis, at this point in his development, with a deep pass audible. Jus Sayin…!!!

    Let’s be honest, V-JAX is a really fast…TE. And, despite his recent back of the end zone toe-tapper TD, we haven’t seen anything approaching the neighborhood of (track or football) speed out of him in a long, long time.

    Does anyone really think that Dye is a difference maker? Anybody..??

    So, let’s stick with what works and do it even better the next time.

    Go Bucs..!!

  14. Tampa Tony Says:

    If the Bucs wanna win Lovie has to change and go after points when he has a chance. He does know the timeouts don’t carry over to the next half, right?

  15. ndog Says:

    Look at all of evans numbers from last year and you will notice deep ball after deep ball. This year teams are putting a safety over the top of him and forcing him to actually run routes and make catches while being contested and you see the results. He needs to learn how to run routes and catch the ball in traffic or he will be an after thought in this league very quickly.

  16. sick of losing Says:


    Couldnt agree more. Hes looking for a flag or crying about it before the ball that bounced out of his hands hits the ground. Maybe he is still worried about the leg and affraid to push the verticle game too hard. Not sure, but he doesnt seem to fighting for the ball like he did last year. At the same time, we have been victims of a lot of no calls that should have been flagged. But, thats life at the bottom, no respect. You gotta earn those calls.

  17. Danr Says:

    For the record. Evans has been off since week 1 preseason before his injury. Playinh like he deserves recognition and refs calls. Not playing for the catch.

  18. Buc1987 Says:

    Let everyone else worry about Evans. I’m not one of them…

  19. ndog Says:

    87 I’m not worried about evans as he is what he is a #2 wide receiver. He is to slow and doesn’t make yards after the catch to be a #1 receiver.

  20. bucsbedabest Says:

    Evans and Jackson just do not have the speed for the deep ball? Last couple of times Evans has been open going deep, Jameis has under thrown him? My number one concern right now is Winston’s footwork and release. I was watching game film and he is constantly not getting his feet planted and if you watch his throwing motion he has the look of throwing a baseball. Even noticed him throwing one pass where he actually had a wind up? I know.. who am I to question his throwing motion, but man something don’t look right? Maybe Mike Bajakian isn’t the right coach? You would think Koetter would be all over it? I would be interested to know if anyone else had a chance to look at the replay and noticed the same?

  21. Mord Says:

    Part of the reason the deep passing game (and often, the intermediate passing game) aren’t consistently there yet is because there’s a rookie throwing the ball.. Jameis can throw, but a pass involves timing and synchronization with WR’s routes. Jameis has been that half-beat late on enough throws … They arrive *after* the route has been run rather than right as the receiver is hitting the ‘strike zone’….and sometimes he’s throwing when the receiver is too obviously waiting .. At NFL speed, defenses have time to react to that stuff.

    I sure as hell hope this improves.. Seems like typical rookie acclimation, and I hope he’s better than a typical rookie, for this season’s sake .