Redemption

September 18th, 2015
Help him!

Help him!

Outside of folks who collect a check from the Bucs in some form, no one wants to put to bed that godawful game Sunday more than Joe.

As a matter of style, Joe turns the page on Wednesdays to the new game. This week, Joe deviated because that loss Sunday, so horrible in nature, has ongoing and unknown ramifications.

One way to put that game to rest is redemption, not so much for the Bucs and their defense, but for America’s Quarterback, Bucs signal-caller Jameis Winston.

Another person who believes Jameis needs salvation in New Orleans is none other than urinal picture-takingvideo game-playingTaylor Swift-listeningpickpocket-thwartingBucs-uniform-frowningAllie-LaForce-smittenBig-Ten-Network-hatingpedestrian-bumpingolive oil-lappingpopcorn-munchingcoffee-slurpingfried-chicken-eatingoatmeal-lovingcircle-jerkingbeer-chuggingcricket-watchingscone-loathingcollege football-naïvebaseball-box-score-readingNPR-honkfilthy-hotel-stayingfight-instigatingbarista-training Peter King of theMMQB.com and NBC Sports fame.

Redemption for Jameis Winston. Or so he hopes. After a poor game one loss to Marcus Mariota and the Titans, Winston plays at the pass-rush-weak Saints in New Orleans. There is plenty for Winston to improve. Offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter wasn’t cutting Winston any slack this week. “It’s the quarterback’s job to cut our losses,” said Koetter. “[His] first interception was a bad decision. [His] second interception, on the screen, was just a bad throw. You got to make a better throw right there. What does he need to get better on? Quarterbacks have to make great decisions. When quarterbacks don’t make good decisions, bad things happen. Quarterbacks don’t make good throws, bad things can happen.”

Joe understands King’s take, but if Lovie’s defense is pistol-whipped (again) by Drew Brees like they were against the Titans, Joe isn’t sure you can hang out your rookie quarterback to dry.

If the Bucs defense gags up another 40-point-game, then Joe isn’t sure how in the world you can pin that loss on Jameis. The dude is a rookie, and Joe doesn’t care if the Saints have a leaky defense or not. If Jameis is forced to play uphill, then that is a recipe for disaster.

27 Responses to “Redemption”

  1. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    When rumors started that Atlanta might fire their head coach in the off season, I was the first one here to suggest we go after Dirk Koetter as Offensive Coordinator.

    So glad we got him.

  2. Charlie V Says:

    You can take it to the bank that the Buc’s defense will be humiliated again by Brees. Lovie wants to kick back in his basement and enjoy the millions he stole from the Glazer’s. He can’t do that if they win.

  3. Bucco Brice Says:

    Help Him? Help You!! It’s bad enough that our team is in a shambles again, but to preach Jamarcus Leftwich continually as the next great QB is ridiculous. I’m embarrassed for you. I appreciate the site and work you do. I don’t know how or why you got on this kick about this dude. He played on an enormously talented team. He’s severely overrated. Give him time??? Bullsh*t. Seen enough already. This aint college baby, and it shows. I’m not a professional scout but it was obvious early about his slow release and clown feet. The selection over Mariota is baffling. Owners choice to sell more seats being a local college player and heisman winner….”simple as that”…

  4. BuccoDav Says:

    Hold on now, what do you mean “If the Bucs defense gags up another 40 point game”? Lovie’s defense only gave up 35 of those points. Remember, Jameis gift wrapped 7 while the defense was on the sidelines.

  5. Dean Says:

    What scares the crap out of me is the lack of toughness from our head coach. I would must rather have a coach like Parcells, Belicheck or the like. Why?
    As soon as the team took a dump on the field like the Buc’s did Sunday afternoon, every player would be shaking in their shoes, afraid they would be cut on the spot. That’s accountability.
    What happened to the Bucs? Nothing. Remember the defense that laid that stinko was directly under Saint Lovie as he called the defenses. GMC and Lavonte called a players only meeting on Wed. and tore into the defense. Did that happen because the coaching staff doesn’t have the Ba*** to do it themselves.
    We have (with the exception of Dirk), a crappy coaching staff that doesn’t motivate, teach or make players accountable. You need to kick ass in a league of tough personalities. The Buccaneers just don’t have it.

  6. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Pass-Rush-Weak Saints comment sounds like the Bucs KOD. They might have a week line, but not this week. King failed to mention our offensive line woes.

    Warhop for Prez!

  7. TheBucsAnthem Says:

    ……this is pointless

    Two more days til BUCS anger returns

  8. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    Just wait on it.😎

  9. BrianBucs Says:

    The Saints have a ton of injuries on defense and will field a defense Sunday that will resemble the 4th quarter of a pre-season game. And remember also the Saints only scored 19 points last week. If the Bucs are going to get a redemption win then this is the week to do it

  10. Harry Says:

    I have faith Winston will show some flash this week. Lovie, not so much. But his D will play harder, unfortunately they are handcuffed to Lovie’s predictable script.

  11. BucFan20 Says:

    Well at least we don’t hear any more about how this kid can walk on the field and hang 35 points on teams by himself . We know he is not able to walk on water. And he is NOT Americas Quarterback. Just the Bucs.

  12. BrianBucs Says:

    Guys, even though I still believe 100% that the Bucs drafted the wrong QB, I’m going to come to Jameis’ defense here. The kid is still young and needs a LOT of work. But let’s all just chill and see what he turns into as he gets older and more experienced. We were all lead to believe that he was the Savior and second coming as part of the hype to sell tickets and internet clicks and right now looks more like “America’s Disappointment”. Bur all true Bucs fans should root for him and support him as he is our QB and we’re stuck with him. I personally will not be critical of him any longer as long as I see him working hard to improve himself and trying very hard.
    Now as for the people that made the decision to draft him and put this monstrocity of a team togethe, that’s another story

  13. Buccfan37 Says:

    I forgot about that last game. It’s over, it’s history. Purge your mind of unpleasant thoughts. On to bigger and better things. Today is the first day of the rest of my life. A new season begins Sunday. Now where did I put my meds?

  14. Cannon Says:

    I’m starting Austin Seferian-Jenkins as my TE this week, just saying.

  15. Posey99 Says:

    “Quarterbacks have to make great decisions. When quarterbacks don’t make good decisions, bad things happen. Quarterbacks don’t make good throws, bad things can happen.” – Dirk Koetter

    Was this a quote from Koetter before or after the draft?

  16. darin Says:

    If they do give up 40 again i just hope it happens before halftime, again. I gota start cutting my losses too.

  17. Arealbucsfan Says:

    Tim to start changing the plays in huddle. Lovie is imcompentent

  18. Joe Cool Says:

    @BucsBrice continuously brings up the same negative points about Jameis Winston, that are, in my opinion, complete rubbish. He is clearly still mad the Bucs took the better QB in the draft. I’m sorry if you expected Jameis to be an all-star right out of the gates, on this tremendously talented Buccaneers roster. It IS going to take time. Ask Peyton, Brees, Favre…the list goes on. Luck is a freak that comes along every 10-15 years.BUT… Jameis will be fine. Your precious MM will be exposed this year too, don’t worry 😉

  19. Supersam Says:

    Mariota makes really good decisions… Just sayin.

  20. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Charlie V Says
    “You can take it to the bank that the Buc’s defense will be humiliated again by Brees.”

    It’s never a sure thing. Knowing Brees is going to try for 3 touchdowns pretty much foretells the Saints will be passing a lot. If the Bucs have made adjustments this week, and if the players took last week personal, they could do better on defense.

    Probably not enough to win, but possibly enough to keep it closer than it was last week.

    What I’m really interested in seeing is how Jameis responds to the loss. I’m hoping we’ll see some improvement in him. Even if it is just a little.

    Really, with Jameis and the offensive line, I’ll be happy to see continuous progress, even if it is baby steps. Baby Steps can add up by mid season.

  21. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Bucco Brice Says
    “…our team is in a shambles again…”

    We had a bad loss. It was disappointing, but the team is NOT in a shambles.

  22. Bucco Brice Says:

    @BuccaneerBonzai…It certainly is in a shambles. We were hammered by the 31st best team in the league last year, by the QB we passed on. Our defense was supposed to be a strength and carry us through. Good luck with that! We have no future with Lovie Smith – PERIOD. So,…we will be looking at ANOTHER new coaching staff and probably dismantling the roster again. STARTING OVER again. I am generally a positive person, seriously. Was looking forward to game 1 with a positive outlook. THAT performance is totally unacceptable and Lovie should have been canned after his press conference Sunday…

  23. rayjay1122 Says:

    I like Winston. I defended his character questions all along. I just had concerns about his on the field play. He got away with stuff like slow starts and careless throws in college but this is the NFL. Opposing defenses are too smart, fast and well coached to allow the big 2nd half come backs. Since our defense is not an NFL caliber defense and will not keep games remotely close, it is going to magnify Winston’s slow starts and interceptions. Winston, I think can be a really good QB in the NFL because he does have a strong arm, confidence and is football smart but he HAS TO HAVE A GOOD DEFENSE to keep his team in games to survive slow starts and some ill advised throws that may lead to interceptions. The Bucs situation unfortunately is about the worst situation Winston with his on the field flaws could have come into and it will make him appear to be far worse than he is. No QB would succeed here because we do not have the offensive firepower to match scores with everyone who runs and passes all over our defense. Captain Obvious said that our Defenses biggest problem is no pass rush, going for stripping the ball rather than actually tackling anyone and not being able to cover WR’s, TE’s and RB’s.

  24. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    For the millionith time I’ll repeat…it no longer matters which QB is better!!!
    ONLY that OUR QB gets good enough in the next couple of years to lead us to the SB. Isn’t that the real goal? Or is it to simply have the best QB?

    Would you rather have had Dan Marino and one SB appearance or Jim Kelly also in the draft who went to four?

    It’s sad to me that this entire “competition” between JW and MM is meaningless but it’s unfair. I’m old school. Rookie QB’s, neither of them, should be starting year one. MG8 is clearly more prepared after his experience. Yes JW has more upside…I agree…but the flip side of that coin is that JW has a LOT more downside as well. BOTH MM and JW are being unfairly tossed into action before they’re really ready…but that’s just the way it is in today’s NFL.

  25. rayjay1122 Says:

    @SPBF
    You are correct and it is true that today’s NFL is much different than in the past. I miss the old NFL. I was actually talking to a friend about the changes and especially the emphasis on penalizing hard hits. It is a shame but I get that it is a money decision because of the law suits. Still, the Bucs defense during our glory years would not have been as successful in this glorified flag football league.

  26. Joe Cool Says:

    Jameis Winston will soon be doing what Peyton Manning did to the Chiefs last night.

  27. bucsbedabest Says:

    The problem with Jameis is the OL. He has no time as a drop back passer to set and throw. In pre-season he was 47-23 for 311 YDS, 48.9% completion rate. 2 INT 0 TD. Winston was sacked 7 times in just 99 snaps. Did anyone think this trend would change in the first regular season game? He only completed 48% in his first game and was sacked 4 times?