Four Huge Streaks On The Line

September 19th, 2015

LovieRefereeSomething has to give on Sunday. The Saints and Bucs are clashing in the SuperDome and both teams are riding major trends.

Consider the following:

1) The Saints have lost five consecutive home games. Almost unthinkable, except the Bucs have lost 10 straight in Tampa.

2) New Orleans has won six consecutive home openers with Sean Payton coaching.

3) The Bucs have lost seven in a row to the Saints.

4) Tampa Bay is has lost its last seven games overall.

Joe expects the Bucs to compete like a real football team for a change, with a real quarterback playing solid football. But Joe’s not expecting a miracle in New Orleans. The Bucs have to prove themselves before Joe starts prognosticating a victory.

45 Responses to “Four Huge Streaks On The Line”

  1. The Buc Realist Says:


    You forgot one of the streaks, It is the huge brown one called Lovie’s defense!!!!

    Like most fans, just dreading Sunday’s and trying to figure out who will be next to drop the 40 burger and the Bucs!!!

  2. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Forgot the 400 TD mark four Brees. He’s at 397 now.

  3. bucco brice Says:

    WIN OR FIRE LOVIE….”simple as that”…

  4. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Bucs fans are disgusting.

    They suck.

    Honestly, Tampa doesn’t deserve a football team. Or a baseball team. At least the hockey fans show up and support the team the way it should be supported.

    Instead of “Siege the day” it should be “@#^$ the fans”.

  5. Fred V. Says:

    The Bucs have not shown us any reason why will win this game Sunday. But there is plenty to think of why they CAN, and Joe already mentions the shear numbers alone mean some unlikely streaks will extend, and some will end. I offer this: The Saints are not as good this year as they were last year–losing some decent D and O players. The Bucs have an OC, and one thing we do know about Jameis, is he can correct his mistakes. The D clearly knows the Tampa 2-hybrid coverage will implode when guys don’t trust their fellow players to do their jobs, or they DON’T manage their assigned coverages. The Bucs are healthy on D, save for Major Wright, who frankly is not as good as his backup. They have lots of experience with Brees, who likes 5-7 step drops, but I’m betting he’ll try the 3-step variety a bit this week for short passes since it is what beat the Bucs. But he’s shorter and not as quick in his release as Mariota (NOT saying Marcus is better–don’t read that into it). I expect the O line to improve from last week…the FIRST time they had been together AT ALL as Smith and Cherilus both saw limited pre-season play. I agree with Joe…this game will NOT be as bad, but I’m perhaps a bit more optimistic. Let’s be real here: Lovie Ds have been good, and Koetter Os have been good, and everyone has a clunker. I have the same feeling I did as last year when the Bucs rolled into Pittsburg after drubbings by ALT and BAL.

  6. Fred V. Says:

    BuccaneerBonzai…what planet are you from…NY or CHI? I agree fans here don’t show up like they should, but I’d not call Lightning fans the epitome either…they were not selling out a much smaller arena when the team was not ding GREAT either. I have season tickets to all three, and find Bucs fans to be the most resilient. They have endured the most hardship, repeatedly sit among the BO and foul mouths of fans from the north, who bring their pasty white blood-veined smattered legs and all, and they keep coming back.

  7. The Buc Realist Says:


    What are we suppose to do??? what makes a great fan in “your” Book??? We are not mindless cheerleaders!!!

    This is Football, they are not building a Saturn Rocket that takes years and years!!!! While we agree the consistency is ideal, being consistently Bad is unacceptable!!!

    I did not expect the Bucs to make a wild card playoff spot! But I did expect them to at least battle for 3rd place in the NFC South, Instead they are locking down the #1 overall pick in next years draft!!!!!

  8. Stevek Says:


    C’mon, brother! Buccaneer fans process grief differently. I am done with Lovie, he’s proven to be arrogant, pacified, and not even half the coach that Greg Schiano was for us. Unless Lovie goes out there and the defense plays good, inspired football, he should be shown the door immediately and waiting any longer is just going to have a negative impact on the future of our players’ development.

  9. bucco brice Says:


  10. biff barker Says:

    Predictable….. all the tools in the Buc’s shed are clanking “there’s still 15 games left!”


  11. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    Just wait on it.

  12. Buccfan37 Says:

    I had no idea that the Bucs have lost 7 games in a row to the Saints. That’s putrid, NFL doormats. How many more stepped in dog turds can you have scraped off in your faces?

  13. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    This isn’t grieving, this is quitting. ONE. GAME. IN.

  14. BuccaneerBonzai Says:


    Not as well as yours.

  15. Harry Says:

    Dude, you know you are really off base when I am agreeing 100% with Realist! But I have too. As he said, is your idea of a loyal fan to be a “mindless cheerleader”? The biggest weakness on this team was caused by Lovie dismantling the Oline, then rebuilding it with his handpicked players! Being ok with that is NOT my idea of being a loyal fan, it’s more like being a sheep!

  16. DefenseRules Says:

    @Joe … “But Joe’s not expecting a miracle in New Orleans. The Bucs have to prove themselves before Joe starts prognosticating a victory.”

    Spoken like a true politician Joe. Except that politicians don’t prognosticate … they pontificate. Wouldn’t want them to take an actual position on something, would we.

  17. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    My idea of being a fan is NOT giving up after the first game played in the season.

    It makes you all bandwagoners.

    If the Bucs win games 3-8, you can bet that wagon would be full again.

    We ALL knew last year was going to suck.

    Everyone here knew this year would bring 6-7 wins max.

    That means 9-10 losses. Fans knew it was coming, but before the season started they were fine with it. Now, after the first game, which was a loss, Bucs fans are giving up.

    Funny thing is, the fans were predictable. Countless times I said you would all quit after the first game. Countless times I said we would lose the first game. Countless times I said the first game was NOT as important as everyone was claiming.

    But Bucs fans are so shallow they QUIT.

    If the team quit after the first team, it would serve you all right. But they won’t, because they are not as bad as Bucs fans tell one another.

    You all have been listening to guys like The Buc Racist, DallasBuc and others so much that you’ve started toting their line.

    So…”#$&% the Fans”.

  18. Bucnjim Says:

    This is a ten year drought not the first year of a rebuild. That is why no one has any patience left. It isn’t the loss to the Titans that has everyone fired up it is the promises of improvement from last year until now that is so extremely disappointing.

  19. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    2nd week of the season and we are playing not to be in last place in the NFC South…lol.

    Good news is we may be able to keep the #1 waiver wire selection past the first three weeks of the season, so there is that. Not that that has helped us these past few weeks.

  20. Bucnjim Says:

    Speaking of quitting……This team in the last five years has quit more times on game day then even the terrible teams of the 80’s. That is a fact!

  21. Harry Says:

    Just because a fan criticizes coaching or personnel choices doesn’t mean they’ve jumped ship. I believe Realist, for example, only wants to see his Bucs do well, and is frustrated when they don’t. But he still follows the Bucs and supports them. No, I don’t agree with all of his points no more than everyone agrees with mine. But I respect his right to voice them. However, it doesn’t give you the right for name calling of “disgusting” and that we “suck”.

  22. StPeteBucsFan Says:


    I respect your posts because they are usually filled with analytical tidbits. And as one of the blog optimists I admire your ability to hang in there waiting for better times. I haven’t given up on the Bucs. But last Sunday was a disaster in every way. We know about Lovie’s D and whether folks want to admit it or not the national press is either calling Fameis a bust already…stooopid for sure…or at minimum expressing great concern. Horrible coaching…horrible D..and a #1 draft pick that so far has presented more questions than answers should make all of us nervous. I think you’re just frustrated.

    @Fred V

    I have season tickets to all three, and find Bucs fans to be the most resilient. They have endured the most hardship, repeatedly sit among the BO and foul mouths of fans from the north,

    I’ve had season tickets to just two in the past decade..Bucs and Lightning…I catch about 3-6 Rays games…way to many baseball games to even consider season tickets.

    I largely agree with your observation. I have sat in Forum/Amalie with about 3,000 other fans during the worst times…so let’s all agree..attendance is HUGELY affected by performance. But how many people continue to support a restaurant if the food and or service is horrible? Sports are a product..entertainment at the end of the day.

    The one thing I would not agree with is the nasty fans from the north. Certainly there are always some of them…the only time I almost got into a fight was a Philadephia jerk who has moved here and sat next to me at a Lightning game.

    But the Bucs are the WORST when it comes to enduring aaaholes. Largely because of the testosterone laden, alcohol soaked young males from 20-40. I’ve seen some really embarrassing stuff from these creeps. Cursing and dropping MFer in front of young kids…threating parents physically if they object. This is NOT just a Bucs problem btw. Across the NFL tailgating and alcohol are a problem.

  23. vegasbuccaner Says:

    Well said buckaroo buc.ive been a fan for over 30 years my liver can’t handle Watching this team.

  24. tmaxcon Says:

    What’s disgusting is watching this team come out week in and week out flat and unprepared. It’s also disgusting listening to the same old excuses and bs justification for losing. It’s disgusting to watch rookies and backup qbs shred this scheme. It’s disgusting to have to focus on the draft before the first half of the first game of season is over. For a supposed players coach his team refuses to play hard for him and that is disgusting.

  25. Bucblake Says:


    If bucs fans suck you must be the leader because your the suckiest suck that ever sucked. Enjoy the mouthful of what you love to suck the most, cock

  26. BlogTalkFootball Says:

    Instead of “Siege the day” it should be “@#^$ the fans”.

    It already is…smh.

  27. Clodhopper Says:

    Not all loses are created equally. Last week was not just a loss.
    Last week was a huge sign Lovie learned absolutely NOTHING from last year. The defense is year older, another year into the system and they played just like they played early and often last year.

    We are not Seahawk fans saying the season is over after one close loss. We are 30 -71 and seeing all the same exact things we saw with a 2-14 team. aka Asswhooping!!

  28. Charlie V Says:

    Joe expects the Bucs to compete like a real football team for a change …..

    What? The Glazier’s fired Lovie? When?

  29. Stevek Says:


    Lovie is 2-15, and winless at home.

    I’m a fan, and think our team sucks and is softer than wet charmin. Greg Schiano was a superior coach with horrible luck. Lovie has had full reign and just made everything worse.

  30. CC Says:

    Let me say first I have been a fan for 30 years now.From what I witnessed at Ray J last week.In my opinion, Brees is going to tirch Lovie’s D. Looking for about 38-45 points from Saints. “It’s gunna be huge”
    Bonzai…..suck it!

  31. The Buc Realist Says:


    To be fair, I quit on lovie last year!!! I new he would take this team no where and could only win with superior talent!!! I was so sure he was bad that I planned a 3 week Europe vacation at the end of September into October. ( something I would never have done during a Bucs season in the past. I am regretting that I am not going this year!!!!

    That Debacle last Sunday will have lasting Ramifications!!!!

  32. DoNUTS Says:

    Been waiting for a long while now since this team lost its leaders in Sapp, Brooks, Lynch…..

    Will new leadership arise or will the pirate ship continue to be lost at sea….

  33. Bobby Says:

    Well, this week will be telling in a lot of respects. I want to see a real desire to win from this team. I want to see coaching that has a clue how to put together a game plan and adjust when things aren’t working. I want to see referees let the players play instead of calling cheap #!@ penalties like the one against Major Wright last week that changed the whole tone of the game. I don’t expect a win but I do expect a team that lets the Saints know they’ve been in a game. I want to see something that makes me believe a Lovie Smith coached team can do anything besides suck.

  34. James Walker Says:

    The team needs more active ownership who can put 100% of their energy into the Bucs, and not kickball teams in the UK. When NO coach can succeed the problem is OWNERSHIP! Just look to the Lightning for an example.

  35. Buc1987 Says:

    BuccaneerBonzai…Hockey fans show up because the team is winning, that’s the nature of the NHL. And baseball, that damn stadium is too far away from civilization and no I don’t call ST Pete civilization.

  36. Buc1987 Says:

    Bonzai is the only one allowed to bitch about the Bucs when he feels like.

    The rest of us are disgusting fans, because he never complains. (sarcasm)

  37. rayjay1122 Says:

    Did you attend the game last Sunday? If so, did you cheer the Bucs when they left the field or did you boo them along with everyone else? If you were not applauding and cheering the team last Sunday, then you are a hypocrite!

  38. mac Says:

    This franchise sucks!!!


    I blame the Glazers… They are clueless greedy little trolls…

    Every single thing they have done since taking over the team has been a disaster…

    Hiring Mark Dominik – IDIOTIC
    Hiring Rah Morris – IDIOTIC
    Hiring Schiano – IDIOTIC
    Hiring Lovie Smith – IDIOTIC

    The leadership sucks and is clueless… Therefore our beloved team sucks and plays like a pack of clueless unmotivated overrated divas…

  39. Clodhopper Says:

    I want to that too but I think it’ll be like a guy that beats his wife. He went too far one day and she leaves him. Then he turns on the charm for a few weeks and wins her back. After that he goes back to ways and beats her harder. That seems to have been out pattern.

  40. Nick B. Says:


    Honest question… are you only speaking of the Glazer sons? Because Malcolm did quite a bit of good while in charge. Something along the lines of a Super Bowl. But since he has no longer been in charge and passed I agree with you completely. What….A….Disaster

  41. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    no I don’t call ST Pete civilization.

    Says the man who lives in bumfuk the land of sinkholes and gun toting morons who shoot people in movie theaters for texting about their children.

    But 87 you live in Pasco so we in St. Pete surely do not expect you to appreciate things like the Dali and other museums, the Florida Orchestra or a city named as the number one city for the Arts(outside of the top ten metro) for the arts.

    You know what you have when you get 32 Pasco Co citizens in one room?
    A full set of teeth!!!

  42. StPeteBucsFan Says:


    Understand your appreciation of Malcolm because he did bring us a SuperBowl.
    He spent the money required.

    But he was alive when the family made the decision to secure their financial future forever. They went from Millionaires to Billionaires thanks to that ManU gamble. Sucked for Bucs fans, great for the extended Glazer family!

    You all can ask yourself if the Bucs or any sports team is more important to you than your extended family’s financial future?

    Hiring Mark Dominik – IDIOTIC
    Hiring Rah Morris – IDIOTIC
    Hiring Schiano – IDIOTIC
    Hiring Lovie Smith – IDIOTIC

    The first three on that last are a direct result of the family’s money and attention on Man U. They were operating on the cheap until they worked their way out of the tremendous leverage that purchased Man U.

    The last hiring…Lovie Smith certainly looks idiotic now…in hindsight which is 20-20. Tony Dungy turned this franchise around for Malcolm after decades of failure. The boys listened to Father Dungy and hired what they believed was a clone of TD, who had after all a winning record and an SB appearance where he lost to of all people…Tony Dungy who finally had his franchise QB.

    All of this makes perfect sense. Lovie lost to TD because of the lack of a franchise QB…so Lovie tried for the home run with Fameis.

    Yes we now realize that Lovie is past his prime…lost his touch…whatever…but if we look at things objectively while Lovie is a huge mistake…at the time it made sense and was a respected move from people all around the NFL.

    It didn’t work…time to move on!

  43. bucsbedabest Says:

    The Glazer sons are the problem. It starts at the top. The reason this team is so bad is a lack of talent due to one bad draft after another. Look at what Jason Licht has done in just two years? From Lovie to Licht to Koetter to Frazier to Warhop the team is a reflection of its owners, GM and coach’s. I agree that after just one game it is to early to call the 2015 draft a bust and to early to call this season a bust but after last week I need to see players who play with compassion for the game and don’t give up. The coaching needs a game plan that will stop Bree’s from all those short routes over the middle and to the right. If this team is not at the very least competitive Sunday everything the fans are saying are like they sat it is.

  44. mac Says:

    @ Nick

    Sorry I should have clarified… Malcolm was wonderful… I’m only speaking of his incompetent sons that currently are running this franchise into the ground…

  45. BucFan20 Says:

    ” Bus fans are disgusting.
    They suck”.

    Well BuccaneerBonzai is a Bucs fan so guess what. You might want to fix the above statement. Or do you really mean you suck too??