Lovie Sniffs At Players-Only Practice
September 19th, 2015
Lovie Smith was unimpressed by Gerald McCoy’s players-only practice initiative this week.
Now Joe is not a hater of Bucs defensive tackle Gerald McCoy like some who make a living behind a microphone. Hardly.
In fact, Joe was rather impressed that McCoy got the defense together recently to hold a players-only study session. GMC and Lavonte David led intense film work with the entire defense.
Joe thought that was fantastic taking-the-bull-by-the-horns initiative to try to right the broken and listing pirate ship.
Well, one person who apparently is unimpressed is Bucs coach Lovie Smith. Big deal? Lovie all but said yesterday in his final presser before the Bucs face off against the Saints Sunday.
“No reaction to that,” Lovie said. “Gerald is one of our leaders. The week before players get together all the time. It’s a none story really.”
Ouch! Talk about someone spitting on your steak.
Of course, Lovie didn’t say for what the players got together. Could have been for ice cream and pralines, for all Joe knows.
It sure seems like Lovie dislikes players stepping out from under his shadow in an effort to get better. Joe remembers when Lovie came on board and then-Bucs safety Dashon Goldson hired his former youth coach to help him learn how to tackle all over again, in order to prevent getting flagged. Lovie bristled at Goldson’s move, saying, in so many words, he and his staff will coach Goldson up.
September 19th, 2015 at 8:06 am
In all seriousness McCou is the class of the Bucs organization. He would eat Beckles for breakfast if they went head to head and both in their primes.
September 19th, 2015 at 8:06 am
Wonder if Lovie’s concerned he might be losing control of the locker room … after Game 1.
Still convinced there’s more going on behind-the-scenes than us fans are aware of.
September 19th, 2015 at 8:12 am
What does that say about Lovie’s coaching? Nobody is listening!
September 19th, 2015 at 8:18 am
What would be most concerning as a player is, If all lead up to the Titans game they were stressing the Run, Got to stop the run, and Do not let Marcus M Run the option. Then All game he just throws at will on the defense!! Only to hear after that the “Players” need to be better in there pass zones!!!
September 19th, 2015 at 8:28 am
I’m starting to get the impression that Lovie is the passive to Schiano’s aggressive. Both control freaks, both stubborn, both unwilling to change, but just from different sides of the same incompetent coin.
Lovie seems like a genuinely good guy. I’m sure he’s a heck of a person off the job (maybe even on the job). But the game seems to have passed him by. The Bucs don’t need stability, calmness, etc, etc. What they need is a coaching staff that knows what the hell they’re doing in today’s NFL.
September 19th, 2015 at 8:30 am
The Bucs need to go out and show some pride/heart/effort/resiliency against the Saints. Another straight up butt whooping and we need to fire Lovie.
September 19th, 2015 at 8:37 am
Get off of Ian – he made an opinion and so far he is right. If GMC starts dominating which is what he is expected to do, than I’m sure Ian will throw compliments at GMC as well. Ian wants GMC to do well and the Bucs to win but he can’t sugar coat the crap he has been seeing on both sides of the ball and I respect that about their show. Joe, that is a direct jab at Ian’s honest comments and I think you’ll find he has a little more clout in this town than you. Not to mention a great radio show that spits a lot of real knowledge out. If I were you I would stick to your own opinion and not re-hash others.
September 19th, 2015 at 8:38 am
Lovie needs to go,he doesn’t care about winning just that he gets paid!
September 19th, 2015 at 8:39 am
Incompetent Lovable Lovie it turns out is kind of a diick but mostly just unfit to be a pro head football coach.
September 19th, 2015 at 8:39 am
Joe is pushing it here. All Lovie said is that its not out of the usual.
September 19th, 2015 at 8:48 am
BYE BY THE BYE LOVIE – MAYBE MONDAY…”simple as that”…
September 19th, 2015 at 8:51 am
Does that give you an idea of the quality of our coaching staff. The players have to have a “come to Jesus” meeting to get their heads on straight.
On every other team, it is the head coach ripping your ass and then every position coach backing that up.
We don’t have the quality coaches needed to correct this situation. If tomorrow is as bad as last week, the Glasiers will start looking for replacements, starting with weak-assed Lovie.
September 19th, 2015 at 9:02 am
Beware the iron fist of Lovie. When Lovie speaks, players listen.
September 19th, 2015 at 9:10 am
Laughable Lovie has one foot in the basement and another at the state mental hospital. Lovie is a delusional control freak who is completely out of touch.
Bonzi
stop with the race and bigot comments when someone has a different opinion of yours it’s ridiculous and unfounded. Plus, I thought old white guys were the only racists in the world. Learn something new everyday I guess.
Lovie is a failure not because he is black or Christian because he is 0-9 in home games and 2-15 overall. Anyway you slice it that is failure. SIMPLE AS THAT! !!
September 19th, 2015 at 9:12 am
Nothing gives you more accountability than your own peer group.
Lovie is an idiot!
September 19th, 2015 at 9:30 am
Bonzai has no clue how wrong he is and the good things that Ron and Ian do in this community with their foundations. Everyone has an opinion Bonzai so I will let you have yours, but it is a personal, unfounded, very wrong attack on some good people. Hope you can look in the mirror and look at yourself as someone that does as many good things in our community that these guys do.
September 19th, 2015 at 9:32 am
“I’m starting to get the impression that Lovie is the passive to Schiano’s aggressive. Both control freaks, both stubborn, both unwilling to change, but just from different sides of the same incompetent coin.”
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This pretty much sums up my feelings exactly. Very well said.
September 19th, 2015 at 9:35 am
“how is Ian a racist?”
He blames EVERYTHING on white people. Countless times. Well established and denying it here doesn’t change that fact.
As far as the people here, I’ve only called one person a racist. The Buc Racist. Funny how everyone knows who I’m talking about.
September 19th, 2015 at 9:37 am
@Mikep4bucs
I do more than you’ll ever know.
September 19th, 2015 at 9:42 am
Can’t get over the amount of “hate” that comes through on these comments……for crying out loud…..get a life!
September 19th, 2015 at 9:45 am
I remember after a past blowout loss, McCoy said “They had a good scheme”.
I sense a rift between McCoy and Lovie.
To say the other team had a good scheme implies we did not.
Just come right out and say it Gerald McCoy “Lovie Sucks” !
September 19th, 2015 at 9:54 am
Coach cannot in any way encourage extra practice time joe! Cba rules he was trying to not get fined!
September 19th, 2015 at 10:10 am
Are there any good defensive coordinators looking for a HC job? Now would be a good time to submit their resume!
September 19th, 2015 at 10:26 am
I think (hope) the next direction the Bucs go in coaching wise will be a highly touted coordinator. They’ve failed in the college route, failed in the retread route, now it’s time they go coordinator. I wouldn’t even mind giving Josh McDaniels another shot. He was way in over his head with Denver, but I think that he’s worth another shot.
September 19th, 2015 at 10:35 am
Tom E posted…
Can’t get over the amount of “hate” that comes through on these comments……for crying out loud…..get a life!
Agree 100%. I respect passion until it goes over the edge into hateful hyperbole.
Another observation I would add to Tom’s is that life is rarely black and white.
It’s mostly shades of gray…or a spectrum of behavior and thought.
We are talking about fellow human beings here. And because we disagree we call them racist or other pejorative terms that have nothing to do with their football opinions?
As a fanatic last Sunday was hard to shake. Just now getting back in balance. But at the end of the day it was just a football game…not 9/11.
Saudi Arabia is planning to behead a political dissident and display his headless body to the public. They are our allies? We hang with people like this. That’s some seriously messed up shiiit.
That’s serious…our love of the Bucs is just a fun diversion. No need to call people obscene names or talk about their mommas and where you wish to place your genitals. I’m not a church lady here but at some point Tom is certainly right…it’s just hate and very little to do with football.
September 19th, 2015 at 10:40 am
I agree with defense rules.
Lovie is about to get run over if there aren’t major improvements soon.
September 19th, 2015 at 10:46 am
Lovie is embarrased as a coach that he isnt doing enough and players have to help each other. The ideas might be great Lovie, but now you have to coach better.
September 19th, 2015 at 10:53 am
Lovie is fired by game 9… After we go 0-8…
I just hope they retain Koetter to continue running the offense…
Hire Matt Patricia as HC/DC…
September 19th, 2015 at 10:57 am
I’m with Tom and StPete. People take themselves and this life diversion far too seriously. When certain individuals decide to throw words like racist around cavalierly it sets us all back and shows a deep lack of conscience and integrity.
That being said, professionally speaking, Lovie Smith is an abject failure as the Buccaneers HC and has decisively proven that he is painfully incompetent.
September 19th, 2015 at 11:02 am
Donald Trump forced the Glazers to sell the Bucs then bought them and fired everyone. He then built a football dynasty/empire in Tampa. Then my alarm clock went off. Too much politics on TV lately…LOL
September 19th, 2015 at 11:06 am
Yes football is truly just a fun life diversion. We do get frustrated and vent on here when the Bucs look bad and lose but there is for sure plenty that does really matter happening in the world around us everyday. That being said, having a competitive team to root for sure would make the life diversion more fun.
September 19th, 2015 at 11:34 am
We played the 2nd worst team from last year and got curb stomped. Maybe it’s time for McCoy to just shut his f@cking mouth for once and try being the best defensive lineman on the field in any given game he plays in, after all, isn’t that how he’s being compensated on a weekly basis. I know for certain he had less impact on last weeks game than at least two or three of the Titans defensive linemen.
Im so tired of this bullsh!t of screaming about coaches and the side of the ball thats let us down the most in the last several years has been largely populated be veteran players. Plenty of teams have played well in the past despite the coach, not this one. It’s always a coaches fault when our leaders on the field are pissing the bed out there.
This team is so F’ing mentally weak it makes me sick.
September 19th, 2015 at 11:36 am
McCoy is doing what Lovie Can’t
These players don’t respect this Coach Helen Keller could see that.
September 19th, 2015 at 11:59 am
Lovie Smith is a clown
September 19th, 2015 at 12:03 pm
@gotbbucs-
I agree with you. McCoy has played under Lovie the way he played under 2 other coaches. He rarely if ever makes a play at a critical time in a game. I think Lovie probably feels like you and I feel about McCoy and David calling a players only meeting. My feeling is ” So what, McCoy- you have built no real credibility that says this meeting will help.” It’s all just BS talk until you actually “DO IT IN A GAME
September 19th, 2015 at 12:11 pm
Lovie didn’t say for what the players got together. Could have been for ice cream and pralines
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Ha!
September 19th, 2015 at 12:19 pm
No coach likes player only meetings it infers that what coaches are doing isn’t good enough.
September 19th, 2015 at 12:35 pm
Maybe Lovie wants Gerald to do his talking during the game, and with his play?
Another guy from Oklahoma sang a song that seems to sum up Lovie’s point – it was called: “a little less talk, and a lot more action…”
September 19th, 2015 at 2:05 pm
The best solution for immediate improvement is to fire Lovie, give defensive play calling duties back to Frazier and tell him to continue the philosophy he began to build in the second half of last season and dump Lovie’s passivity altogether from this defense, elevate Koetter to interim head coach and keep play calling duties for the offense in his hands, allow Koetter to hire/fire whomever he wishes from the offensive coaching staff, then at season’s end fire both Frazier and Warhop and keep Koetter as head coach if he proved his worth the remainder of this season, and then revamp the defensive coaching staff starting from scratch keeping maybe a couple select guys like Nickerson in place.
If a fan like myself can see this clearly, surely the Glazers can too. This solution keeps the defense in place, the offense in place and causes absolutely no disruption on either side of the ball for the entire 2015 season. What it solves, however, is removing the stumbling block to success from the picture: Lovie Smith. Simple as that.
September 19th, 2015 at 2:50 pm
lol as much as I want Lovie gone, your spinning this big time.
He means it’s not a big deal, or anything out of this world because his players have already been doing this.
That it’s not like it’s a first, basically.
September 19th, 2015 at 2:58 pm
Player only meetings are great as long as they reinforce coaching points. If they ever turn in to players deciding how to line up or play better than the way they’ve been taught nothing good ever comes of it. Anything the players are discussing in private they should be able to go over with their position coaches and coordinators. If they can’t then maybe that explains why they can’t play any better than we’ve seen.
September 19th, 2015 at 4:05 pm
@DallasBuc, Tom E, and st pete, agree with all three of you, lets bring some sanity into the conversation.
September 19th, 2015 at 4:12 pm
Listen!!!!!!!! Breaking down his words he says players meet together all the time…..smh …
I get it!!!…but less try not to be fascile minded and see what happens sunday…he didnt tell them to have a give-up mentality after that 1st drive penalty on defense.
The mentality of the team corelates with the fans
September 19th, 2015 at 4:49 pm
StPeteBucsFan… you stated that Saudi Arabia is beheading a political dissident. Well, a U.S. Joint Resolution of Congress passed on March 20, 1991, Public Law 102-14 which in fact legalized death by guillotine in the U.S., this method will be used in the future to kill off dissidents right here in the U.S.A., no electric chair so the organs can be used elsewhere.
September 19th, 2015 at 4:52 pm
It is called Noahide Law.
September 19th, 2015 at 5:40 pm
@Buccfan
That’s a horrible law…however it’s the states that determine which method of capital punishment is used. That law may give the states permission to use a guillotine but does not mandate it. Still it’s a bad law.
A huge difference in how our capital punishment is administered is we no longer have our hangings, executions in the public square. Generally pretty small audience of official witnesses and victims families if they wish.
Most of all we don’t mutilate their bodies and then display then at the mall.
Saudi Arabia is as backwards as Elizabethan England. But that’s what Sharia law does for you…stone adulterers and cut off the hands of thieves…gruesome stuff.
September 19th, 2015 at 7:23 pm
joe,
Come on. This is a ridiculous story. Love is simply saying that he does not flinch at the defense gather because it is not uncommon. They had done it the week before and again after the loss. It’s not unusual for the group to get together with the push from Gerald McCoy. No story here.