Jeremiah Warren Getting Noticed
August 28th, 2015
From camp meat to starter?
In the NFL, it is all about making the most of your opportunities. In training camp and preseason, Bucs coach Lovie Smith always talks about “getting noticed.”
(When fans Twitter Joe about “Why haven’t you written/mentioned/talked about [Player-x]?” See previous paragraph.)
One guy getting noticed is backup center Jeremiah Warren. Due to injuries (Evan Smith, Josh Allen) and just plain rotten play (Garrett Gilkey), Warren has gone from camp meat to second string. Why? Look no further than America’s Quarterback, Bucs signal-caller Jameis Winston.
There is no question that Jameis was much more comfortable taking snaps from Warren in the first preseason game late in the first half, and last week when Warren started.
And it isn’t just beer-swilling slugs like Joe noticing. So too is Lovie.
“Well, we were able to run our offense first and that’s what you want – a smooth transition,” Lovie said of Warren’s play. “You don’t want to notice the center as much as anything and that’s what happened last week. I thought Jeremiah did some good things.
“It’s all about being ready when that opportunity comes. If you are on this roster you are going to get a chance to do that. He took advantage of it last week. Hopefully we can get him some more reps this week.”
Look, let’s put all the cards on the table: Smith is not exactly the most fundamentally sound when it comes to snapping the football. Gilkey? Well, he would be a good practice center because the quarterback can then practice catching a shotgun snap at damn near all impossible angles. Not exactly what you want in a game, however. And from what Joe saw of Josh Allen last year, he’s just an expensive unlocked gate.
It seems Warren can reasonably block. He certainly can snap the football. And offense is all about timing. Doesn’t matter if you have an offensive line full of Hall of Famers, if the snap is screwed up (consistently), it blows up the play immediately.
If it truly is all about Jameis this season, and clearly Jameis is comfortable with Warren, then Joe thinks Warren should get a roster spot and serious consideration for a starting gig.
August 28th, 2015 at 4:12 pm
Hotseat= Evan Smith. Time to put up or shut up son.
August 28th, 2015 at 4:21 pm
Lovie also said….”It will be good to have our Center back”….or did you miss that? I agree that EDS leave a lot to be desired….but I’m not ready to crown Warren yet….I will be interested to see if he gets any 1st string snaps Saturday….
August 28th, 2015 at 4:29 pm
Warren will make the final 53 as a Guard/Center, EDS wiil still be the starter. But a O-Linemen like Warren is a valuable asset, who can step in at Center. They had that position open for Garrett Gilkey, but that didn’t workout. I believe we have a good, young O-Line.
August 28th, 2015 at 4:56 pm
We need more BEEF
BEEEEEF
August 28th, 2015 at 5:03 pm
Smith is much better than Warren. Not by much but, you will see a positive difference when smith is in Saturday. Smith is in the top 10 run blocking centers. Warren got pushed back which caused james to stumble backwards a few times but, he did hold his own
August 28th, 2015 at 5:05 pm
I did contradict myself in the statement above but, you guys know what I mean
August 28th, 2015 at 7:03 pm
Still isn’t better than Joshua Allen , however Allen and warren are both way better than Evan smith.
August 28th, 2015 at 7:55 pm
None are better than zuttah
August 28th, 2015 at 8:21 pm
Actually EDS graded out higher than Zuttah in 2014, according to Bleacher Report Top 100. He was the highest graded Center in the NFC South. He was ranked at 16th and Jeremy Zuttah was ranked at 17th.
August 28th, 2015 at 9:48 pm
I am not a huge fan of a center that consistently puts the ball on the ground. I would like to see these two (Smith and Warren) split some first team reps on saturday. I think Evan Smith has largely underperformed and thinks he is better than he is. I don’t know a lot of Warren but just the way this offense was moving the ball Monday warrants him another shot.
By the way Bleacher Report is a joke of a site. I used to like it but i remember reading a few of the most uneducated articles on the bucs and just flat out gave up on it.
August 28th, 2015 at 10:05 pm
Where for art thou, Zuttah
August 28th, 2015 at 10:10 pm
If Jameis is comfortable with him. I would start him. We need #3 to be as comfortable as possible out on the field. Especially with the guy he has more contact with than anybody else. Unless he can’t block. But it seems he can hold his own so far. 2 more games to prove it.
Joe, what would the dead cap be if we were to cut EDS? He would be one of the top paid backup Centers in the league if this were to happen.
August 28th, 2015 at 10:14 pm
Let’s face it. EDS has probably created some enemies with his treatment of Fameis. And not just Fameis. Buc fans do not want some slug who just anchored a 2-14 team rotten OL to cop an attitude towards the franchise QB.
Fameis will be here long after EDS is gone. Fameis is far more important than EDS. EDS doesn’t look like an athlete with that huge boiler in the middle…mix in a salad piglet. He’s just acted like a jerk and so I confess it colors my opinion of him as a player.
But you guys do your homework and show how he actually graded out. I can tolerate EDS if he’s the BPA at center, but I’m clearly going to root for Warren to improve enough to replace him.
August 28th, 2015 at 10:31 pm
If they start Warren then Josh Allen is out cuz though he’s the main character in an old Steve Martin movie “The Jerk” he still has too much experience to cut.
August 28th, 2015 at 10:34 pm
Oops I meant to to say EDS is the jerk
August 28th, 2015 at 10:52 pm
I think that Warren could eventually be a better center than EDS, but EDS always get top grades. That’s why the Bucs signed him in 2014, because of his grade for the Packers. This is what Ian Rapoport had to say about EDS, when the Bucs signed him.. Dietrich-Smith played all but 68 snaps at center for the Packers in 2013. In his 1,137 snaps he allowed five sacks, one quarterback hit and 10 hurries, according to Pro Football Focus (subscription required). Compared with centers who played at least 60 percent of their team’s pass-blocking snaps, Dietrich-Smith ranked tied for seventh in the NFL with a 98.1 pass-blocking efficiency score.
Last season Green Bay rushed for 2,136 yards, and Dietrich-Smith was a key component to that success on the ground. Only six teams rushed for more yards in 2013.
August 28th, 2015 at 11:21 pm
Cant understand these long haired fellas playing in the heat….cut the hair for cripes sakes…
August 29th, 2015 at 12:55 am
@Lakeland
Thanks for that info. Makes tolerating EDS more palatable. Gotta play the best player available even if he’s not popular.
August 29th, 2015 at 8:06 am
In the first game this year EDS got pushed back so bad Jameis had no room to step up which caused some of his throws to be inaccurate and resulted in some sacks too. That didn’t happen with Warren last week, and who could forget the roll back center snaps by EDS last year. But for his fat contract to match his fat gut EDS should have already been cut. Who do you believe, the stats in Green Bay or your own eyes at Ray Jay last year? Warren deserves to start. Keep EDS just this year as Guard/center backup and fire him next year and find another Warren much, much cheaper!!!
August 29th, 2015 at 8:39 am
I liked what Warren showed against Geno Atkins and a tough Bengals front. I’m not sure he should start just yet, but if he continues to get better then he should definitely be a candidate.
August 29th, 2015 at 12:51 pm
“what Joe saw of Josh Allen last year, he’s just an expensive unlocked gate.” What does this mean? Is it like being a milk can or any of the other unfathomable things JOE tends to say?
August 29th, 2015 at 1:53 pm
Maybe ES will be more committed this season like Mankins seems to be. Maybe Jameis just needs to take Koetter’s advice!
August 31st, 2015 at 2:40 am
Windows 10!