Are The Basics New?

July 12th, 2015

GholstonlockerA great video surfaced last week of a current and former Buccaneer soaking up hands-on coaching from a Hall of Famer.

Via this Twitter link, you can watch Will Gholston and Adrian Clayborn getting a detailed pass rush lesson from Hall of Fame sackmaster Chris Doleman.

Watching the video, Joe got a feeling that the fundamentals Doleman was passing on were new to his students.

Joe sure hopes that’s not the case — not after years under multiple Bucs position coaches and regimes.

It always amazes Joe that defensive ends come out of college — major football programs — and are said to have no pass rush moves or just one move. What the hell are these guys doing in practice and what are their highly-paid coaches teaching them?

Props to Gholston for investing his time to improve during his vacation. As for Clayborn, Joe might just vomit if Clayborn repeatedly abuses Donovan Smith this season.


10 Responses to “Are The Basics New?”

  1. Pickgrin Says:

    Clayborn should have been re-signed to a 1 or 2 year prove it deal. He was a 1st round pick and had been injured the majority of the time he was a Buccaneer. Looked pretty good to me in pre-season last year before ending up on injured reserve. With the lack of depth we have at DE and all the cap space still available, not re-signing Clayborn was a real head scratcher for me.

  2. tickrdr Says:

    They used to say that the great John Wooden would have his players work on fundamentals religiously, even though his teams were the best players in the country. Also, I remember a video of Bill Parcells (I suspect it was a segment on Hard Knocks), where he spent about ten minutes personally showing a punt returner how to position his hands as well as his feet to best ensure catching the ball, but also to allow the best burst and balance to then return it.

    I posted last year after Mike Evans was stripped of the ball at the three yard line on a sure TD pass from Glennon during a preseason game, and his comment was that he always played the right side, and had NEVER been taught to switch the ball to his left hand down the left sideline. SMH! In every job or sport, the basics are NOT new. As a pilot, you are taught to “fly the airplane”.
    As a cardiologist, you must “treat the patient”, and not just look at the lab data or EKG etc. Even writers must use proper grammar, spelling, and sentence structure (the basics) to be at the top of their game.


  3. Buc-A-New Says:

    I agree with Pickgrin. AC should have been given a prove it deal. I guess Lovie saw something that didn’t fit.

  4. Tiny Tim Says:

    It always amazes Joe that defensive ends come out of college — major football programs — and are said to have no pass rush moves or just one move. What the hell are these guys doing in practice and what are their highly-paid coaches teaching them?


    Come on Joe, that’s easy. College coaches are paid to win on Saturdays and not Sundays. That’s why Meyer did not try to help Tebow with his throwing motion and fundamentals because it was good enough to win on Saturday. Pass rushers in college usually use only their speed and athleticism to get to the qb because that’s all they need. It is up to the pro coaches to develop these players into NFL players ie details/hand placement/footwork etc. because speed and athleticism is nowhere near enough in the NFL. That is why so many teams whiff on players in the draft because the speed and athleticism etc. doesn’t always equate to great NFL players and that is why the draft is a crap shoot. You can’t foresee how a player will take to coaching, absorb whats being taught in the details, or if he has the fortitude or ability to actually get better in a man’s league even though all of the “measurables” are there.

  5. BlogTalkFootball Says:

    The fact that Clayborne can’t stay healthy is reason enough to drop him like a mashed potato.

  6. Trubucfan22 Says:

    Clayborn had 4 years to “prove it” and he didnt live up to his draft position. The constant injuries are just another reason to not re sign him. Clauborn wasnt a bad DE, but Imo he just wasnt productive enough to warrant another contract. His best years are behind him imo.

  7. Señor Mofo Says:

    @TinyTim said:

    College coaches are paid to win on Saturdays and not Sundays.


    Exactly. The major college conferences are significant revenue-generating leagues in their own right. They don’t exist solely to be a farm system for the NFL. Plus, college rosters are much bigger than NFL rosters, so the individual coaching attention that players receive might be limited. College players have strict practice time restrictions anyway, since they are also actually, you know, going to college.

    Teams could just focus on players’ college game tape and skip the combine altogether and would likely do a better job drafting. The most valuable part of the combine process is probably the private interviews that teams conduct with players anyway.

  8. LUVMYBUCS Says:


    As usual, well said brotha.

    I felt the same way when I heard the following: Concerning Logan Mankins

    “He’s the first one in the meeting room, teaching these guys how to study the right way. He holds them accountable without having to say a word. He gives them ‘the look’ and that’s enough.

    I was like what the hell does George Warhop do?

  9. tickrdr Says:

    Thank you for the kind word, and sorry it took so long to get back at ya’.
    I’ve been working on remodeling the MBR shower all afternoon.

    Working on fundamentals may not be “fun”, but the well-coached teams never seem to get penalized for twelve men on the field etc.


  10. Danati74 Says:

    Well Gholston is going on to his 3rd year, so I hope he has studied and learned a lot of what he is being asked to do in this scheme. Its time to step up son..its time to prove your worth. I don’t expect him to wow us with 10 sacks, but to get some sacks and play the run well.With Bowers and Claiborne gone it your turn to shine.