Winston Doesn’t Need To Be Great

April 1st, 2015
jameis 0212b finds an interesting stat

Yes, Joe has been on the Jameis Winston bandwagon for some time.

Never thought the Bucs would actually get a chance to draft the wunderkind. Yet, here we are. It may just happen.

Joe hopes fans don’t get their expectations too high. Yeah, there is a lot of hype, deservedly. But Winston hasn’t taken a snap in the NFL. He is far from Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck. With Lovie Smith, Winston may not need to be close to them.

The folks over at dug up an interesting stat that basically states Winston just has to be better than turnover-prone Josh McCown for the Bucs to succeed.

The thing is, Winston’s ceiling is that of Luck and, maybe, if one is dreaming, Manning.

Besides, the Buccaneers have never had a true star at quarterback for a prolonged period of time. Winston could (finally) solve that riddle.

Right now, it seems the only roadblock in bringing Winston to Tampa Bay is this guy sticking his nose where it doesn’t belong.

91 Responses to “Winston Doesn’t Need To Be Great”

  1. Espo Says:

    So, at work we signed off a new trainee who absolutely sucks at her job. Now the other trainers have relaxed since that low bar is acceptable. We’ll see how effective we are after a few years.

    Way to set the standard.

  2. Andrew 1 Says:

    “Winston Doesn’t Need To Be Great”

    He doesn’t need to be great, but he will be. Maybe not right off the bat, but I’d say after his rookie season he should take off. I remember my expectations for Evans before the season started was about 40-50 catches, around 600 yards receiving, and 6 or 7 TDS. He far exceeded those numbers, so you just never know with rookies.

    And as for Dungy, no need to be disrespectful Joe, I seriously doubt his input will go beyond anything other than some friendly advice. So no need to worry. Beside this decision is bigger than just Lovie anyway. It will be an organizational decision.

  3. Eric Hernandez Says:

    I hope he matures. I would love to see Manning/Brady 2.0 in Winston\Luck. Imagine then battling for Super Bowls for the next decade.

  4. Edgewalker Says:

    My unborn children know more about QBs than Dungy.

  5. tmaxcon Says:

    Edgewalker Says:
    April 1st, 2015 at 3:48 pm

    My unborn children know more about QBs than Dungy.


    That might be the most accurate statement ever posted on jbf.

  6. biff barker Says:

    Yes, Joe has been on the Jameis Winston bandwagon for some time.
    Who knew?

  7. Bill Says:


    What standard are you referring to? 27-1? Championship standard? Heisman standard? Brilliance on the whiteboard standard? Superior leadership and team chemistry? Winston will raise the bar for this team, dramatically.

    Maybe you’re worried that all his millionaire teammates will suddenly start looking for free deli meat at the grocery stores? C’mon man.

  8. runtodaylight Says:

    joe just made the case for Mike Glennon. 83.7 rating and has never entered the off-season as the starter. Unquestionable character and work ethic. Can use the pick to build the defense and/or running game.

  9. charactermatters Says:

    If his leadership is so superior then why are his transgressions chalked up to hanging with the wrong crowd? Leader? Or follower of the crowd? You can’t have it both ways.

  10. thibs5599 Says:

    @Edgewalker….very true.

    Dungy built the championship Bucs however he could not get them all the way and that is why the Bucs gave up a boat load of picks for gruden. granted he didnt win much afterwards but he got the championship and thats all that matters. as for Dungy, he won one superbowl with Manning as his QB, definitely should have won more than once. Shut up and sit down Dungy.

  11. Keepitreal Says:

    You starting to feel lonely on this site Character? Get over it already your on an island… Most haters have converted over. Welcome aboard!

  12. 87LikesFreeJerseys Says:

    Ho hum…I still see there are still a few sloooooooooooooow people out there, that haven’t, or can’t put 2 and 2 together yet that Winston is the pick.

    People still talking Glennon and what not….

    Why is it that they can’t see it?

  13. 87LikesFreeJerseys Says:

    Or is it that they do see it, but won’t put it or refuse to put it into words on this site?

    I KNEW Winston was going to be the the pick 2 months ago and these guys are still coming on here talking as if they don;t see it at all and we’re 29 days away?

    Not to insult anyone, but are they dumb? In denial? Just wishing it goes their way? What gives? Because I hate to think people are THAT dumb? It has to be the other 2 reasons.

    You people can’t be that dumb….can you?

  14. robert 9 Says:

    runtodaylight hit the nail on the head.

    our QB is already on the roster, but some like the next shiny thing.

    oh the heartbreak when they trade back.

  15. WS99 Says:

    “This guy” needs to stick to being ignored on nbc on Sunday nights.

  16. Andrew 1 Says:

    @ 87

    I agree with you that Winston will be the pick, but I still would like to see Glennon get the start for as long as possible, just to give Winston some time to learn as much as he can before he gets thrown into the fire. It might only be for 2 games , or 6 games, or till mid season before we see him take the field, and that will be ok. like we heard before, that was the plan for the jags when they drafted Bortles, but then the realized he was just treading water and wanted to get him some game time experience. But even he was held out for at least a couple of games. So I fully expect to see him at some point during the season, just dont expect him to be the opening day starter.

  17. Espo Says:

    @ Bill

    The standard that we can win with only a passer rating of 87. Stats aside, it seems to set the bar kinda low.

  18. WS99 Says:

    Yes, yes they can. For example a guy posted yesterday saying he can’t wait to see what happens at mariotas pro day. Yea about that buddy. #dumbdumbdumb-dumb

  19. 87LikesFreeJerseys Says:

    Andrew…I’m not expecting him to start right away either, but I think he will.

  20. tmaxcon Says:

    Winston Doesn’t Need To Be Great

    He might not need to be great that being said, he has the HUNGER to be great which has been missing from this roster for years. You combine Winston’s Hunger and Talents the only thing that can prevent him from succeeding is himself. He loves the game too much to let that happen in my opinion. I think us bucs fans are about to go on a magical ride with fameis, let the fun begin.

    Welcome to Tampa Jameis!

  21. onetrickpony Says:

    ” just had to be better than mccown. That’s not saying a lot t I thought he was the second coming with all this man love

  22. Andrew 1 Says:

    @ 87

    That would be amazing to me, but hey if the bucs feel like that’s best then lets do it.

  23. tmaxcon Says:

    When Winston is the pick. He starts day one and Glennon is not on the roster. I just don’t see any other scenario. It’s no secret I despise 8 but he is not a good fit for mentor roll. Get a vet with calming influence for jameis not a future radio host. Whether it’s right or wrong I don’t see any scenario they don’t start Winston day 1 after he is picked.

  24. Tiny Tim Says:

    charactermatters Says:
    April 1st, 2015 at 4:03 pm

    If his leadership is so superior then why are his transgressions chalked up to hanging with the wrong crowd? Leader? Or follower of the crowd? You can’t have it both ways.


    Yep, its official. This guy is a joke who likes to make up his own narrative. I never once heard Winston being accused with hanging with the wrong crowd. I have heard Fisher and others say winston likes to be a part of the team. He treats and interact with walk on players like he does with the 5 star recruits. I’ve heard that Jameis wanted to be and act like a regular college student. Obviously he is not and learned he had to carry himself differently. I have not once heard he was hanging with the wrong crowd. Please prove it. No need, I already know its false. He actually wondered why I would call him a joke. Well now you know sir!!!

  25. cspann Says:

    I can’t see how people think Glennon is starter material. MG is good backup and that is all. He had his chance to out shine McCown and he couldn’t do it. I don’t know if these folks pay attention to the NFL nowadays but you need to have QB to be successful. The days of have a great defense and a game manager are over! This is a passing league, why not get the best rated college passer since Luck. You MGM folks kill me!

  26. Joe Says:

    My unborn children know more about QBs than Dungy.


    The windows in Joe’s home just rattled Joe laughed so hard. Well done!

  27. Andrew 1 Says:

    @ tmaxcon

    Idk, I think Glennon would be an adequate mentor. He’s been in the league for 3 years now which is not a whole lot but I think its enough experience to help a rookie, and we’ve all heard about how dedicated he is and how great his work ethic is which can only be a good example for a rookie. But even if we ditch him in bring in a vet, I still think there’s a good chance the vet starts for at least a few games. Not 100% sure so it will be interesting to see what happens.

  28. armchairGM Says:

    Seen some of the Gruden QB camp highlights and can honestly say I have never seen albeit as short as the clip was but I have never seen a QB on that show throw out verbiage an diagnose plays, protections etc the way he did. It is really something to admire. I believe his knowledge of the game will make him great. You could see it during the second half of FSU games where he would adjust at halftime.

  29. ruggyup Says:

    Well, editors and fans, let me remind you that after all the fluff and inevitable hyperbole will come expectations. The inarguable law of Nature is that expectations lead to disappointments. Chapter 2 to follow after game 3.

  30. tmaxcon Says:

    Andrew 1

    I am fairly closed minded when it comes to Glennon maybe to a fault. I have just seen enough. He’s smart, adequate arm, choir boy i get that but he is nto that guy that makes people better around him. i have been saying that for a year now. I just can’t buy into it. I also don’t get the who he has been treated unfair crowd. life aint fair folks. you play the hand your are dealt and you win or lose. glennon had plenty of hands and lost regardless of excuses he still lost and did not make people around him better. I fully admit I can’t stand the guy as my qb but I did like the little kid dance he did that was funny.

  31. Andrew 1 Says:

    @ tmaxcon

    Oh I agree, he is absolutely NOT starting material. Still would like to keep him around for perpetration of Winston, and he can also get some good game tape out of it if we decide to trade him before the trade deadline. But we’ll see, nothing is set in stone yet.

  32. Lord Cornelius Says:

    The logic of an anti-Winston poster:

    “Lovie Smith has never had a QB with a rating above 87”

    “So basically we already have that in Mike Glennon with his career rating of 83”

    I mean seriously does anything else need to be said? I feel like I’m in some kind of nut house reading stuff like this.

  33. Lawrence Says:

    Freaking dungy , the gift that keeps on giving. Farts

  34. louden Says:

    In so many words Winston + those commerical guys put him in right light (at least tried).
    Put simply put:
    Winston blah blah blah clutch; best when under pressure yada yada..
    I would say: Remember Freeman comebacks?
    Did those combacks occur because Freeman being such a great QB, or because he simply wasn´t very good.. (and stank overall)

    winston expaining what went wrong:
    exactly what i am preaching all time long.. theory is one thing (painting stuff on a wall..) actually doing it on field sth. else..

    could go on and on..

  35. Dreambig Says:

    Who is this Glennon you guys are talking about?

  36. ADown88 Says:

    The pick is (will be) Winston, and he will start day 1. I am fairly certain that Glennon will be traded, hopefully we get a 3rd for him. Lovie openly admitted that they were taking calls for Glennon and I don’t think he would do that unless they knew they were going to be moving him. I think we should keep Glennon, but to me he is already gone. Hopefully we can grab someone like Tyler Lockett with the extra 3rd.

  37. Dreambig Says:

    Oh, yeah. Now I remember. If you have seen Winston’s passion, his competitiveness, I doubt Glennon can keep him on the bench for long.

  38. bo Says:

    The way some of clowns talk about the guy…he is not only going to be great, but he is going to cure cancer, aids and walk on water.

  39. Dreambig Says:

    Bo – Didn’t know all that was in the QB job description. I bet he would suck at those things. lol

  40. bucrightoff Says:

    The thing is, Winston’s ceiling is that of Luck and, maybe, if one is dreaming, Manning.

    Dreaming, high on crack, whichever you’d prefer. The first part is also laughable since Luck is 3 times as good an athlete. His ceiling is basically Daunte Culpepper but healthy. Not that thats bad or anything, but be realistic.

  41. Dreambig Says:

    Lord Cornellious – I noticed that too. Thought I misread something. New math says 83 >= 87

  42. tmaxcon Says:


    Love Lockett he would immediately help 3 positions kr/pr, slot wr and the dude is a beast gunner on special teams. Now that’s value. Good bloodlines. I’d love for Lockett

  43. 87LikesFreeJerseys Says:

    Winston is better than Luck.

    Yes I’ll keep saying it until you Buc fans see it with your own eyes next season.

  44. theodore Says:

    “The way some of clowns talk about the guy…he is not only going to be great, but he is going to cure cancer, aids and walk on water.”

    Well, maybe not every kind of cancer.

  45. louden Says:

    “NFC South MVP: Josh Freeman”
    Pat Yasinskas, ESPN Tampa Bay Buccaneers reporter

    “Let’s not even bother with the setup. Let’s just open the envelope and read
    what´s inside.”
    “Go back and read the second paragraph and circle the word valuable. That’s really the crux of all this. There are lots of ways you can give out MVP awards. But if you put the emphasis solely on the value a player had to his team, Freeman wins in a landslide.”

    Winston MVP 2013/14???;
    i would say more of a product of the players surrounding him..

    Winston MVP 2014/15:???
    He had a good line, if not very good o-line: most of the time good time to throw and running average well above 4 yards a carriage + 3 guys of that line are set to get drafted in the very first rounds (out of how many college prospects?!)

    the bottom line without a line:
    Winston = Overhyped

  46. passthebuc Says:

    If he doesn’t need to be great, he needs to be a 2nd or 3rd round choice

  47. Mariota Joe Says:

    Sure sounds to me, that after his pro day in Tallahassee, JoeBucsFan has lowered the bar……..WAAAAYYY DOWN!!!! …incredible. JBF, you’ve been trumpeting the arrival of greatness….WTF happened?

  48. StPeteBucsFan Says:


    If his leadership is so superior then why are his transgressions chalked up to hanging with the wrong crowd? Leader? Or follower of the crowd? You can’t have it both ways.

    CM have enjoyed your posts immensely. I would agree with this point but I that’s not the prevailing excuse IMHO.

    The vast majority of Winstonites have used immaturity as their excuse. They go on and on in a struggle for false equivalencies and challenge posters about their own behavior in college and point out lots of kids screwup and act boorish these days.

    I think you and I largely agree that Fameis DID these things and the excuses are growing tiresome.

    We separate at our conclusion. I’ve seen enough of him now to believe he’s finally learned his lesson. I could be wrong but I’ve accepted L&L’s rationale of giving him another chance.

    Curious as to what the deal breaker is for you?

    LMAO Winstonites much be laughing their butts off to read a post from me defending a Fameis pick.

  49. vancity bucs fan Says:

    Why don’t u get down on your knees and “propose” to Winston? This is too much… Isn’t there some other way to fill the time?

  50. bucrightoff Says:

    87LikesFreeJerseys Says:
    April 1st, 2015 at 5:24 pm
    Winston is better than Luck.

    Yes I’ll keep saying it until you Buc fans see it with your own eyes next season.

    The only people saying this are the FSU homers. The same ones who I’m sure think the Tallahassee PD is the best police department in America (outside Ferguson of course…). You better hope he doesn’t do terribly next year or you will be eating Le Merde big time.

  51. WS99 Says: has winston buc jerseys On their homepage. Crey crey.

  52. 87LikesFreeJerseys Says:

    StPeteBucsFan…I’m a Winstonite. Actually the original Winstonite founding member, when I declared that there is a MUCH better QB than Manziel coming out in next years draft. That QB’s name was Jameis Winston.

    So as a the original I will state it’s not only immaturity, it’s called being a show off. 1 part immaturity, 1 part show off. Everyone had that kid in school that was a show off and did crazy things. That’s Jameis. How do I know this, because that was me too at ages 16-20.

  53. Lord Cornelius Says:

    I’m going to have a brain aneurysm reading comments from guys like Louden. I seriously have no idea wtf they are even trying to say.

    I’ll try to provide some coherent response to the drivel that he is typing.

    In 2010; the year Freeman had probably his most 4th quarter wins; he had 25 TDs and 6 interceptions. We won 10 games with a much worse roster than this; and his leading WR was Mike Williams; a rookie 4th round pick.

    In 2012; another year Freeman won a good amount of comebacks; he had over 4000 yards passing and 27 TDs; setting franchise records (as in best we ever had).

    Freeman’s demise is one fo the weirdest in football and he played horrifically ever since that 2012 season. But to essentially try and hold his comeback wins against him is insane. The dude played really really good ball for 2 out of 3 full seasons. No one should take that away from him.

    Freeman was a 55% passer coming out of college and was more of a projection due to his build. Winston is a 65% passer in college and played in a pro system and has been praised to have some of the highest football IQ out of any recent prospect.

    I’m sure this will all be ignored. And i’ll get to read some insane diatribe from Louden in another comment section.

  54. 87LikesFreeJerseys Says:

    But cha know what? None of that matters anymore. I can’t believe I actually agree with that radio guy for once. The past is in the past. FSU is in the past. The kid has been vetted by the Bucs and the NFL, any negative opinions of this kid about his past are now irrelevant, because the people that investigated him have done their job. That SHOULD be good enough for ANY Bucs fan.

    All we can hope for is that they did a thorough investigation. I maybe the biggest Winstonite out there, but I do care about my teams image. Right now my(our) team looks like dog crap, so I can’t see it getting any worse with or without Winston.

  55. Lord Cornelius Says:

    @ St Pete. I’ve never really made excuses as far as I can tell for Winston. I simply have relied on the accounts of everyone that has every known him combined with what the actual transgressions were.

    BB Guns – honestly don’t care unless I found out he was the one doing most the damage but from what I read he was out in the woods shooting with another teammate when he got in trouble. Not even really a factor for me.

    Burger king – i honestly could care less. Drinking soda out of a ketchup cup. What kind of people even report that

    Crab Legs – assume he had hookup but either way stupid on his part to even risk it.

    Yelling in student union – this was the dumbest thing he did in my opinion and the one that seemed to stick in his head; because he hasn’t done anything since.

    BB Guns/Burger King honestly don’t matter at all to me. Don’t even factor them. Crab legs was dumb but most likely something a lot of athletes / others were doing. Yelling in union was obviously just an obnoxious joke but showed poor judgement.

    I just don’t think ANY of these things are worth writing someone off as a person / decent human being. Tons of judges / CEOs / etc have done a lot worse and went on to become model citizens and leaders in their communities.

    I don’t even want to address the rape allegation because it has been proven too many times that the accusor is completely untrustworthy.

    You can read in the Title IX investigation statements; that she NEVER says she was drugged and essentially says that was not the case when asked. Then in the documentary that was filmed around the same time; she says that she was definitely drugged that night. This is after other inconsistencies and lies that have been documented over the years. I’m done with it. If anyone wants to believe her story I can’t have a sane conversation with them.

  56. Lord Cornelius Says:

    To clarify – whatever i typed was moreso about how I feel about the incidences; not necessary excuses. I don’t think anyone is justifying the dumb things he got caught doing; in that they are OK deeds to do. Some people simply don’t assign them much weight and use them as reason to assume the guy is some kind of monster or complete bafoon.

  57. you can't fix it Says:


  58. tgreg Says:

    Joe sounds just like last year when he had the JF mancrush. Joe knows QBs…lol

  59. 87LikesFreeJerseys Says:

    tgreg Says:
    April 1st, 2015 at 6:51 pm

    “Joe sounds just like last year when he had the JF mancrush. Joe knows QBs…lol”

    Joe’s in good company with SEVERAL scouts and analysts backing him up on Winston…I really don’t see your point.

  60. StPeteBucsFan Says:


    Two points. You’ve broken up all his “minor” transgressions into small palatable bite size pieces and you’ve glossed over some of the nature of them.

    But say I give you the benefit of the doubt and say OK forget the PATTERN of behavior because they all seem small.

    That doesn’t remove the 2nd factual point that is undebateable.

    Fameis was suspended two different times from two different teams.

    The 2nd suspension was the worst because it occured during the rape allegations and it could have easily cost the Noles their Conference title.

    That is what disturbs me most. That is letting down your teammates.

    It’s not about breaking down the severity or lack of importance…it’s the pattern and suspensions that are disturbing.

    He was never truly punished…a baseball suspension was not a big deal..until that Clemson game Fameis hadn’t lost anything,. Given his apparent LOVE of playing football I think that one really did hurt. I think it scared him straight.
    At least that’s my hope.

  61. vancity bucs fan Says:

    Last year it was johnny watch crammed down our throats till we couldn’t breathe… Ridiculous… Gotta be a diff topic to discuss

  62. 87LikesFreeJerseys Says:

    StPeteBucsFan ….good lord man. Why can’t you just put it in the past already?

    Are you still going to be going at this in say August? Probably so. Are still going be disturbed by all this past stuff?

    Perhaps your just disturbed to begin with….

    Sorry, because you say you’re on board with him…but you’ll be back on here tomorrow pointing out things about his past again….

    That to me is disturbing!

  63. 87LikesFreeJerseys Says:

    vancity bucs fan Says:
    April 1st, 2015 at 6:59 pm

    “Last year it was johnny watch crammed down our throats till we couldn’t breathe… Ridiculous… Gotta be a diff topic to discuss”

    No there’s not. A possible first franchise QB in team history being drafted number 1 overall is big news.

    There is other sites you can go to, so as you don’t have to have anything crammed down your throat…no in forcing you to come here. Good lord some people Joe.

  64. Erik the WiseMMan Says:

    Mike Mayock just said that if a team has Mariota & Winston rated anywhere close to each other, you have to take the guy from Oregon bcuz of the potential off-the-field stuff.

  65. Pickgrin Says:

    Andrew 1 Says:
    April 1st, 2015 at 4:19 pm
    “I still would like to see Glennon get the start for as long as possible”

    Why? So we can start off 2-6 and have the season basically be over before Halloween – AGAIN???

  66. Pickgrin Says:

    Erik the WiseMMan Says:
    April 1st, 2015 at 7:20 pm
    Mike Mayock just said that if a team has Mariota & Winston rated anywhere close to each other, you have to take the guy from Oregon bcuz of the potential off-the-field stuff.

    I would tend to agree with that philosophy. But it doesn’t apply in this case – because about 97% of all football experts say that Winston is CLEARLY the better NFL prospect. And 99.999% say he is clearly more NFL ready NOW. L&L have to win ASAP to keep their jobs and can’t invest in a project QB – no matter how much they like his boy scout image.

    Also – setting tape and NFL readiness aside – one of the biggest reasons Winston will be the pick is because he has exactly what this team needs and has needed for many many years. And that is an Alpha LEADER. A player who refuses to lose and is willing to scrap and fight and claw and “rally the troops” even when the odds look very difficult to overcome.

    Mariota sitting quietly on the bench with his helmet on and not even really talking to anyone when his team was down to Ohio State in the 2nd half – vs Winston’s demeanor in a similar circumstance during the late 2nd half of the Rose Bowl clearly illustrates the difference between the 2 QBs in that respect.

  67. 87LikesFreeJerseys Says:

    Erik the WiseMMan Says:
    April 1st, 2015 at 7:20 pm

    “Mike Mayock just said that if a team has Mariota & Winston rated anywhere close to each other, you have to take the guy from Oregon bcuz of the potential off-the-field stuff.”

    Thanks for posting old news….he said that a month ago too. You also posted it as new news last week….

  68. Jameis "The Train Wreck" Winston Says:

    All I see is a train wreck coming from a mile away with this Famous Jameis fellow.

  69. Java Says:

    Lovie needs Jamie’s to be great for this team to win. Especially since Lovie can’t build a o line and his d looked bad last year and couldn’t protect a 4th quarter lead

  70. 87LikesFreeJerseys Says:

    Jameis “The Train Wreck” Winston Says:
    April 1st, 2015 at 7:44 pm

    “All I see is a train wreck coming from a mile away with this Famous Jameis fellow.”

    Mr. Magoo is still alive?

  71. StPeteBucsFan Says:


    I was responding to LordC not originating the comment. Do you comprehend that.

    Remember the song teens used to sing…”you’ve got a brown ring around your nose and everyday it grows and grows.”

    You have been a Fameis sycophant since the very beginning, sucking up, ignoring every transgression…trying for false equivalencies by posting the Peyton Manning incident..over and over and over again as if a boorish act by Manning somehow mitigated Fameis documented offenses.

    And so I could say you’re actually guilty of projection but I’m not sure you’d comprehend. So let’s make it simple…you are the pot calling the kettle black.

    And I would conclude by tossing your observation right back atcha!

    Perhaps your just disturbed to begin with….

  72. AfroBuc Says:

    For once if your lifetime just imagine the Bucs being relevant in the weekly pro football talk week in anD week out. Imarine a sold out Ray Jay every WEEK. Just imagine (all the BUCS FANS not living in TAMPA) getting the big indoor Jumbotron screen at the neighborhood sports bar on Sunday (with the sound turned up). You only get that when you have a MARQUEE quarterback. Here is OUR chance. I’m tired of losing. Some of you guys are content to be quiet mediocre-ites. The Bucs need an infusion of attitude and confidence. Take Jamies. Work with him. Set the bar and off field expectations high. Watch the young man deliver. I’m ready. You naysayers should strap up for the ride as well.

  73. AfroBuc Says:

    In your lifetime (sp)

  74. RustyRhinos Says:

    Hey 87 we/I get it your a Winston fanatic. What happens if he is not what everyone says he is? What happens if he goes 2-14 if he is the starter for the season, This is not the ACC he will be playing in, the CB and S in the NFL get paid to pick off passes, The defensive linemen get paid to put QB in the turf. What happens if he gets hurt?

    You and the rest of those who think Mr. Winston will be the greatest QB to play the position need to let the guy actually play a few games in the NFL before heaping all this glory on him.
    Nothing like adding more pressure on the guy.
    Go Bucs!

  75. 87LikesFreeJerseys Says:

    StPeteBucsFan….welp…I guess we’ll be seeing you tomorrow and clear into August telling us all about what he did at FSU and how it disturbs you.

    Wash, rinse and repeat. Tell us all again tomorrow, because we forgot what you said last week and the week before that about his past. I know you won’t let us down.

    As a matter of fact I’d like that to be my next bet placed on this site.

    I bet anyone on this site that StPeteBucsFan (on board with Jameis) will be telling us all about how he was never punished properly while at FSU …AGAIN, before the weeks out. Any takers? This one is a lock for me. More so than the Winston pick.

    WE GET IT. He has a checkered past. WE GET IT!


    For once I’m siding with that guy on the radio. Put the past away already!

  76. Jack Says:

    Koetter has to put in an offense with a running game, and pass protection for Winston. If he is successful, with these players, then I think you will see Winston with a higher rating. If not, then Winston will get beat up and have a rating in the 80’s.

  77. 87LikesFreeJerseys Says:

    RustyRhinos …..then I’ll be disappointed. Oh well SOS, I’m a Bucs fan. I’m used to disappointment.

    Winston is the one heaping praise upon himself as well, if you’ve not noticed. How can I or anyone else add more pressure than he already puts on himself daily with saying stuff like, he wants to be one of the greats and expects to be in the hall of fame one day. Also saying he wants to play in the Super Bowl next year.

    Nothing I say compares to what he says about himself daily…I’m just riding HIS wave not mine.

  78. vancity bucks fan Says:

    I like but cmon… We all know there’s a good chance Jameis goes #1… Guy looks pretty flabby tho… Looks like he’s gonna be a future Shaun king hahaha cmon don’t disagree cuz u know its true

  79. vancity bucs fan Says:

    Damn auto correct spelled bucks in my name oops… Ya Shaun king looks like he was eating too many …. Crab legs

  80. Bucnut2 Says:

    But joe he is going to be great… You’ve tild us he’s pro ready, going to be sat a star, has only lost one college game, is a franchise qb, the savior of the franchise, has no personal problems, will be staying home and praying instead of attending the draft. In addition he’s a born leader, better than luck, will lead lots of 4th quarter comebacks, sees the field well, his interceptions are not his fault, he walks on water and is Worth the first choice overall., as a long suffering non FSU, non gator bucs fan, I hope you are right. I think he’ll closely resemble the last #5 we drafted.

  81. you can't fix it Says:


  82. vancity bucs fan Says:

    I have a feelings he’s gonna be a disaster

  83. 87LikesFreeJerseys Says:

    vancity bucs fan Says:
    April 1st, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    “I have a feelings he’s gonna be a disaster”

    you can’t fix it Says:
    April 1st, 2015 at 9:46 pm


    It must suck to be you two.

  84. tval Says:

    Its hysterical to watch a bunch of gluttonous, grown babies. Its over, fellas..winston is the pick and nothing will change it..i personally believe joe is being humble stating “luck is winstons ceiling and manning if you’re crazy” or whatever..if hes 1 for 3 in super bowls ill be absolutely shocked. If he goes 10-41(or some other abysmal percentage) vs eagles in nfc champ game, like luck did vs pats, ill wash my hands..:)

  85. Eric Says:

    If we haven’t beat this horse to death its surely on life support.

  86. Connor Says:

    Maunti Teo’s girlfriend knows more about quarterbacks than Dungy

  87. Buccos Says:

    I could of sworn that this guy 87 said he wasn’t going to respond anymore until after the draft and now here he is responding to every post. And here he goes…

  88. BigMacAttack Says:

    Joe, I’m going to go along with your choice and hope for the best.

  89. vancity bucs fan Says:

    It doesn’t suck to be me, 87 cuz I’m a kickazz kinda guy
    I just think that the team should focus on defense, offensive line and they’ll be fine if Glennon has time in the pocket. I like the giraffe cannon he’s got alot of potential. At least he’s not an interception machine and u know he’s not gonna go getting fat and in trouble. I’ll still support the team no matter what, but the fans want big names rather than balance… Let’s see jameis throw on his back

  90. buc4lyfe Says:

    you can’t fix it Says:

    April 1st, 2015 at 9:46 pm

    he grew up in Alabama he’s used to these types

  91. lord Says:

    St Pete I don’t really consider a couple incidences in college as a pattern of life behavior. Maybe if he was a troubled kid growing up and in highschool that’s be one thing but he wasn’t. Good student and good person is all I’ve ever read pretty much from first hand accounts. Peoe typically aren’t suspended for cussing either in the NFL. And I doubt he’ll need free hookup on food with a contract; so consider me not worried.