Team Glazer Split On Winston?

April 9th, 2015

jameis 0213At the NFL Owners Meetings last month, Buccaneers co-chairman Joel Glazer told Joe how comfortable he is with Jameis Winston as the next quarterback of the Bucs, if that is who general manager Jason Licht and head coach Lovie Smith want.

However, NFL insider Charles Robinson of Yahoo! Sports, who has solid sources, writes today there may be discord within the ranks of Team Glazer.

First, general manager Jason Licht and coach Lovie Smith won’t have the final say on drafting Winston. The source said the selection won’t happen without the approval of ownership. Second, the source said Darcie Glazer Kassewitz (the daughter of late owner Malcolm Glazer) is one of the voices in the Bucs’ front office whose opinion could influence the pick.

The source did not say Kassewitz was against drafting Winston. Nor did the source say Mariota or any other player was preferred at No. 1. But the source said that Kassewitz – who is the co-president of the Glazer Family Foundation – has raised some internal questions about the community relations impact of the pick.

That could mean little. But at the very least, an important person in the Glazer’s inner circle will be looking as much off the field as on it when it comes to the Winston selection.

Joe’s first reaction — and he wasn’t the first — was, how has being the laughingstock of the NFL been for community relations?

There is too much time between the end of the Super Bowl and the draft and people are starting to go nutso with the down time. Overthinking, perhaps.

Joe was communicating with a trusted NFL source yesterday and was told, basically, what Bucky Brooks Twittered yesterday, that there are no “risers” or “fallers” in April, certainly not in the early stages of the NFL Draft, unless NFL security or a doctor finds something (hello, Randy Gregory).

178 Responses to “Team Glazer Split On Winston?”

  1. Erik the WiseMMan Says:

    The tide is turning, people. Better start warming up to the idea of Mariota being our QB.

  2. MadMax Says:

    No dam tide is turning! Why is MM further down other draft mocks (and been that way) since the combine? Maybe you Mayock worshiper/Winston haters are still around, but thats fine. It’ll all play out, you’ll see.

  3. Oviedobucguy Says:

    After watching MM with Gruden I am sold on Winston more than ever.

  4. bucbucbuc Says:

    Disclaimer: I was originally part of the Mariota mob but I’ve slowly moved over to the Winston camp. I still think the pick is 100% Winston.

    I don’t find any of the recent Mariota news surprising – people were predicting months ago that the Bucs would show that they are leaning Winston all the way up until just before the draft, when they would start leaking rumors about Mariota being an option. It makes sense – the Bucs are hoping there’s a team out there that panics and trades up to get Mariota. If the Bucs can drop down a bit and still draft Winston, they should keep that option open.

  5. bucco brice Says:

    trade down is still the best option…one player does not make a poor team good

  6. TheDon Says:




    LOL. Jameis will be the pick, We must undure lunacy season.

  7. TheDon Says:




    LOL. Jameis will be the pick, We must endure lunacy season.

  8. Jameis "The Train Wreck" Winston Says:

    Aaron Hernandez will be guilty today.

    That’s all I need for today.

  9. Firethecannons Says:

    Exactly why woman shouldnt be able to make decisions. I kid I kid..

  10. TheDon Says:

    All this mariota news is meant to get people talking. Do you guys really not understand building ratings through these schemes? lol

  11. Arealbucsfan Says:

    I mean does this chick even really pay attention to football?

  12. Maze Says:

    Sensitive at the top. Bucs still trapped in the basement.

  13. thegregwitul Says:

    It would not surprise me at all if Mariota ends up being the pick, nor would it be a shocker if the pick ends up being Winston.

    Anything else that happens outside of those two scenarios, other then perhaps flipping picks with the Titans, will be absolutely mind blowing.

    This team needs a QB. Mariota or Winston, pick one and let’s go.

  14. Luther Says:

    Marketing Dept = Fans

    If you worry about what the fans want, you end up joining them or something along those lines. It amazes me that people would stake their jobs and careers on a project. Mike Mayock and his ilk have NOTHING to lose either way. Don’t screw this up…the pick better be Winston or we will regret it.

    I don’t understand the Mariota or the trade-down gang. Mariota will probably bust and Hundley/Petty are even longer odds.

  15. David Says:

    I really don’t want a Constipated Quarterback, please work your magic Darcie Glazer Kassewitz! SAY IT, M-A-R-I-O-T-A!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  16. LargoBuc Says:

    Yea the most pro ready quarterback in a while is there when we have nothing at the position but no lets trade down for more picks and still have no quarterback…SMH.
    Come on we need Winston. We dont need to trade down. If we go with Mariota, I sure hope he’s ready to run a pro style 16 times this season, and avoid injury.
    Jameis is the glaringly obvious choice. Everyone is entitled but I dont get why people would reach the conclusion that Mariota is a better option than Winston.

  17. Arealbucsfan Says:

    @buccobrice tell that the Colts…

  18. Keepitreal Says:

    The Don is point on!!!

  19. Edward Teach Says:

    You would think the Marketing angle have been one of the first issues discussed with Bucs ownership, given Winstons history. The Glaziers clearly would have had this discussion before Joel said they were comfortable. Just last minute drama from the media.

  20. robert 9 Says:

    she’s a lawyer too…..

    I’m sure SHE JUST LOVES the pick of JW. It will make her life soo easy.


    chickens are coming home to roost for jameis rothlesburger-russell

  21. robert 9 Says:

    I bet she talked to EK

  22. Keepitreal Says:

    You want a angel whispering in the huddle. Or alpha dog taking control! You think Dallas, Pittsburg, New England, philly… Would pass because minor off field issues? Nope!!! But what do those teams know. We are the good guys. Our mascot should be Barney. We have a cute, sweet team. I’m originally from NY. I’m looking for a QB not saint. Get over it. You go MM = tampa being Mayberry. Grow some balls take a risk and go with the superior QB. Rediculous!!!!

  23. Pickgrin Says:

    You can tell the pundits are running out of things to say and write about at this point.

    Just more created speculation masquerading as “news”.

    Winston has been the Bucs obvious choice for some time now. Joel Glazer, Lovie et all would not have gone out of their way to assure fans that they are good with Winston’s “character” if there was any doubt on their part.

  24. David Says:

    @LargoBuc It’s because Mariota is an incredibly gifted Quarterback. He is a dual threat, which is why so many throws he made were to wide open receivers. He makes the defense hesitate because they are afraid of him running. Who cares what system he ran, we have the coaches to make him shine. I think the pick has been Mariotas’ to lose all along. Winston behind our line = Sack, Fumble ala (Rose Bowl) or interception or injury. Oh yeah and Mariota might actually play instead of being suspended or in jail. Winston will be a major Bust, distraction and media nightmare.


  25. Firethecannons Says:

    One of my favorite Dave Chappell skits is “when keeping it real goes wrong.” Good post brotha I like the intensity. I do think Winston is the pick baring some crazy trade.

  26. BirdDoggers Says:

    The Glazers have already said they were comfortable with Winston. I don’t think they would make that statement publically without having a consensus from all of the decision makers in the family. It doesn’t mean the pick will be Winston, but it does indicate that they would be on board with Winston if Lovie and Licht want him.

  27. David Says:

    If Winston is the Obvious choice, why has he not been chosen?

  28. charactermatters Says:

    Being labeled pro ready means absolutely nothing when it comes to whether or not a prospect will actually be successful in the NFL. Just look up who has been labeled that way in the past. Some like Luck have found success but more have not.

  29. Snook Says:

    Only Glazer that ran this team well was Malcolm.

    Malcolm would pick Winston. Because its the correct football decision.

    His [Now, now. — Joe] who haven’t worked a day in their life?

    We’ll find out 3 weeks from tonight what they choose.

    You can pinpoint when this franchise took a turn for the worse. Its when Malcom stepped down.

  30. robert 9 Says:

    keepin it real goes wrong….lol

    i think they already did winston on that one. he ends up on the toilet in moms basement yankin it.


  31. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    As you all may recall, I mentioned the sister being a part of the decision weeks ago. Darcie Glazer Kassewitz is a woman, and if she has reservations, you can bet plenty of female Bucs fans do.

    And yes, Darcie Glazer Kassewitz does have reservations, as I said weeks ago.

  32. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    And frankly, maybe Darcie Glazer Kassewitz can make better decisions than the Glazer boys.

  33. Keepitreal Says:

    bunker9 you must be a woman…. You have no knowledge on the matter and no balls.

  34. No Means No Says:

    why would a woman have reservations about winston?

    he hasn’t committed a crime.

  35. Joe Says:

    bunker9 you must be a woman…. You have no knowledge on the matter and no balls.

    Aaannnddd… away we go!

  36. JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:

    “comfortable”….back when it was first spoken I thought it was nothing more than a dipolmatic discription….Jameis fanatics have been clutching to it as cast in stone endorsment…..I bet they are “comfortable” with Marcus….

  37. David Says:

    @bunker9 Why do you have to attack a person over a different opinion or view? I hope
    Darcie Glazer Kassewitz makes her case!


  38. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    I sure am curious about what bunker9 said…seems to have been deleted, lol.

  39. Joe Says:

    .I bet they are “comfortable” with Marcus….

    Joel Glazer said this the same time he talked about Winston. Glad you are paying attention.

  40. fb Says:

    Jim Carey: “So you’re saying there’s a chance!!!! “

  41. bucs4lyfe Says:

    “internal questions about the community relations impact of the pick”

    if Winston had pulled a greg hardy fine but this is taking off field issues to the extreme. but oh well I’ve been a fan since 1976 im used to losing except for that one patch of success that began over a decade ago. it’s rough being a buc because the news is absolutely unbearable, first mariota is too timid and soft spoke and now in the final weeks up until the draft after over a month of interviews lol whatever im done with the debate, since we’re leaving the football decisions to non football people just expect more losing and if the glazers are making the pick you cant fire this staff for your stupid blunder

  42. robert 9 Says:

    there is no bunker 9

    he’s referring to me, why he says bunker 9 is about as idiotic as everything else he says

  43. JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:

    admin Says:
    April 9th, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    .I bet they are “comfortable” with Marcus….

    Joel Glazer said this the same time he talked about Winston. Glad you are paying attention.

    I realize it was spoken about Jameis…..gesshhh … How…I could I not as it is referenced here about 6 times a day….reading comprehension much admin Says :

  44. Erik the WiseMMan Says:

    I think Mariota’s been the favorite all along. As soon as Winston declared for the draft, all the Winston hype started. Before then, every single mock draft had us taking Mariota. I think L & L have simply taken the necessary steps to fulfill due process; and they have never actually said or indicated that they prefer Winston. #MariotawillopenuptheoffensewaymorethanWinston

  45. Buxfan Says:

    Bucs pick Mariota. We looking at 3 years before we draft another QB? They’ll start him the this season before he’s ready. Maybe not the first game, but he would start this season. Thus setting him up to fail. Mariota is a good guy, but don’t trust him as a pro QB.

  46. Supersam Says:

    I called this back in February. And everyone laughed at me for saying it.

  47. WS99 Says:


    You did mention this weeks ago. Kudos.

  48. bucs4lyfe Says:

    theres more evidence bucs will draft Winston than there is that mariota is the pick…..translation is we are all guessing and Winston or mariota are nothing like Andrew luck meaning not every single person in the organization is all in on one player over the other. mariota fans get used to the fact that the only reason mariota is in the conversation for the first pick is because of uncertainty about Winston personally. it has nothing to do with on the field play. if question marks centered around work ethic that would change everything but Winston is still the better qb, who they pick will tell you what kind of franchise tampa will have no matter who the coach is

  49. WS99 Says:


    It’s like House Party. What’s that I smell? I smell, I smell ……

    Lol. #2-14 #withthefirstpickinthe2015nfldraftthebucspickMarcusMariota #withthefirstpickinthe2016nfldraftthebucspick

  50. ben Says:

    why not draft a qb who the fans can be proud of and the best qb in the draft ? M .M. will be a great addition to our team and the nfl.

  51. Keepitreal Says:

    @bunker9….. You have worked so hard to achieve this label it would be rude of me to deprive you of it. Enjoy!

  52. Keepitreal Says:

    Like I said Mayberry… Where is Opie anyway?

  53. robert 9 Says:

    “mariota fans get used to the fact that the only reason mariota is in the conversation for the first pick is because of uncertainty about Winston personally. it has nothing to do with on the field play.”

    lol… mean who they are as a person matters in this world????

    you still got your OJ Simpson posters on your wall or somethin?

    thanks keepitreal. I like it. my ex GF used to call me the bunkerbuster, but your’s is ok. might want to change it to bunker9 1/2 though

  54. Barry Says:

    Mariota is the obvious choice. What is a Franchise QB? What is a Face of the Franchise? Of course there’s the football side, but there’s also the business side of being the Face of the Franchise. Breakfasts and Lunch speaking engagements with (Business-City-County-State, etc) groups. Charities, a number of other community events.

    What’s Winston going say at a league of women meeting? I mean, really? Stand on a table and yell f&#k her right in the Pu@*y? The Beech moaned and I took that as a yes. Then off to the bathroom and allegedly raped her?

    A crime stopper commercial? Crabs, Pepsi anyone?
    A humane society commercial? “I love dogs, but shoot a dam squirrel dead”.

    This guy Winston’s a dude when it comes to the things that matter a lot to ownership.

    There’s one big voice for Winston. Can he turn the Glazers? Dirk Koetter would have never spoken out of turn ,saying Mariota was outstanding, if not for Smith’s approval.

    Yes ladies and gentlemen, and creeps. Winston doesn’t have many friends inside OBP. If you’re taking a QB then Mariota is and should be the QB considered.

    #DP #HGH #PEDs #BrainDeadRetard

  55. WS99 Says:

    Barry MUST be the tenn Titans GM. Must be

  56. Keepitreal Says:

    I mean MM is not in consideration! Mayock says something and still thinks Winston’s going #1 and you drink it like cool aid. No one cares what he said except MM crowd. Trying to cling on to any hope possable. I’ll be on here after they announce the pick will you???

  57. bucs4lyfe Says:

    @robert 9

    you still got your OJ Simpson posters on your wall or somethin?
    lol you really are a moron, your talking about the warren sapp, the Lawrence taylors, o.j simpsons that went mental AFTER their hall of fame speeches? lol you really read this post and thought that it means bucs will draft one player or the other? keep on guessing and hoping you never know

  58. JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:

    Tony Dungy….will play Godfather to the G’Boyz on this one…..Aloha… Marcus

  59. ATrain Says:

    Winston fans is there not any hesitation on this guy.. YOU can not ignore the off field issues. YOU know WHY?

    Because if he Gets suspended or arrested then he isn’t playing.. The Bucs have to consider that. You can not ignore that when you are talking about millions of dollars.

    The Bucs took a risk last year on some FA and how did that work out.. The Browns took a risk on Johnny and how did that work, and his off field stuff was really minor comparatively.

    Winston maybe the greatest but if he is not on the field he doesn’t help us.

    The worst part of this whole Winston / Mariota conversation is most are total on one side or the other. THINK about what the risk is because the Coaches have to think about the risk as this could cost them their jobs.

    I am not sure a man can mature and change in 6 months just like that.

    If the BUCS pick Winston I hope he is great.

    IF not its an long year. AND YOU don’t know which one is the best.

  60. Keepitreal Says:

    Really Barry… Theirs a football side… Lol

  61. Mbaby101 Says:

    jameis is back in Tampa today she was on the flight with him

  62. Keepitreal Says:

    Atrain… Well said. I believe his issues were minor. Good student, good teammate. I know I was no angel and if they looked under a microscope at me they would find some flaws.. Just glad that’s not the case with the MM CROWD.

  63. bucs4lyfe Says:

    lol if you guys think that these draft boards are going to change now your crazy, draft boards are set and they will not change until draft day because of who’s gone or trading up. really lol after all the scrutiny, winstons entire college career has been on display, after all the combine and interviews now all of a sudden after the second interview there’s doubt hahaha ok right. theres been no issues with the guy since like 2012 but after meeting yesterday suddenly for no reason they are questioning what exactly? not his play. people at the combine before even interviewing Winston the glazers and lovie said they were comfortable with Winston off field issues lol wake up already

  64. David Says:

    Why is it, other than “you” think we are taking Winston, we haven’t heard of any team wanting to trade up for Winston? I mean if he is the second coming and everything, why wouldn’t some team want to gamble the farm for him? NOT ONE ARTICLE, RUMOR or STORY, Not a Peep! Yet you have heard of more than one team wanting to do that very thing for Mariota!


  65. Yungry Says:

    Well that settles it… Welcome to Tampa Marcus! Don’t worry we’ll get ya boy Jake Fisher in the 2nd round to hold you up right…Marcus! Marcus! Marcus!

  66. Keepitreal Says:

    They know the bucs are taking him #1. Tennessee is up in the air on their choice.

  67. bucs4lyfe Says:

    hahaha you haven’t heard a rumor or story because everybody has Winston going number 1 to tampa except the delusional few fans here on this site hahaha even if this article was true, split on Winston doesn’t mean draft mariota ok i’ll stop killing your dreams but just trying to save you the disappointment on draft day

  68. Yungry Says:

    No thanks to the Crabby Creep who shoots animals and is a thief! Plus, 2 potential civil lawsuits. Let’s not forget, he is a 1 year wonder! Good first year followed up by bad 2nd year.

  69. WS99 Says:

    Winston is in tampa house shopping. He got some good news yesterday.

  70. robert 9 Says:

    no other team wants #thecreepycrab simple as that

    heck even of those on here who have warmed to the idea and are “accepting” of him are still very skeptical.

    only the few diehard, football before everything, fans on here are adamant about him.

    we know who the are. we know what set they reppin. they keepin it real. RESPECT. I get it, but life don’t work that way.


  71. Keepitreal Says:

    Yungry—- get FACS straight. Didn’t shoot any animalas and if you call getting your team to playoffs a bad year then we need further discussion. Good luck to you.

  72. Keepitreal Says:

    Bunker9….. Quit trying to sound getto! Maybe I’ll call you vanilla ice.

  73. WS99 Says:

    We can’t all be Barry Manilow fans like you Rob. But I still got love for you.

  74. happy al Says:

    Joe sometimes I think you are so obsessed with Winston your opinion gets bias and doesn’t reflect the true meaning of being a bucs fan … we care about wins but there is no need to sell out of the pride we have as a team … and Winston would be a PR stain on this organization off the bat … it will take time and lots of wins to change public.perception… but are wins worth it ? There is always different ways to win … just saying

  75. Dave Says:

    With the 1st pick in the 2015 NFL Draft, The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select…. Marcus Mariotta Oregon

  76. Keepitreal Says:

    Lol… Yes wins are worth it. Ask Dallas, New England. I think their fans are ok with it. This isn’t a figure skating team.

  77. WS99 Says:

    ^^^^^OMG lmao are you serious? Pride? Public perception? We are the laughing stock of the league. Which part of 2-14 is hard to understand? Why is it that every NFL QB is hands down for Jameis winston? With fans like this we deserve to go 1-15 next year.

  78. WS99 Says:

    Belli keeps laughing his way to the HOF. He’s like “hey Blount here’s a blunt have fun see you in a few weeks”

  79. Keepitreal Says:

    If you took all the players out of NFL that shot a BB gun and got in a little trouble you wouldn’t be able to field a peewee team.

  80. DallasBuc Says:

    “…how has being the laughingstock of the NFL been for community relations?”

  81. robert 9 Says:

    the cowboys and the pats are pretty darn good at keeping their animals in their cages. lovie- not so much

  82. jody Says:

    You know what makes Mariota better than Winston? He doesn’t yur the ball over to the other team. Winstons it’s scare the hell out me no way will he make it in NFL throwing int’s that often.

  83. Lord Cornelius Says:

    You guys are funny in here. Literally no news just some speculation and all of a sudden “I WAS RIGHT IT WAS MARIOTA THE WHOLE TIME WOOO!”

  84. Florida Hillbilly Says:


  85. Keepitreal Says:

    I think Happy Al needs to stop taking that medication.

  86. Lord Cornelius Says:

    Jody – Mariota actually had a ton of fumbles and did turn the ball over.

    You wanna know QBs who had very very few turnovers in college? Tim Tebow. Geno Smith. Alex Smith.

    Wanna know which QBs threw at least 10+ interceptions on average in college? Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Andrew Luck, Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisburger

  87. JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:

    It appears the front office is beginning to let the air out of the Jameis Winston balloon.
    They had to let it play out like this….Aloha Marcus !

  88. Keepitreal Says:

    Jodi— mariota fumbled the ball at a 3-1 clip. Is that not turning the ball over?

  89. Brett Farve Says:

    Did somebody say interceptions?

  90. robert 9 Says:

    Where does a football fan draw the line in the sand that a player is not worth it?

    Stealing – multiple occassions?

    shouting obscenities about females in the midst of rape allegations?

    being cuffed by the cops only to repeat the action hours later after being warned-shooting guns/ vandalizm and potentially harming citizens?

    yelling at the coach?

    rape allegations with an investigation that is sketchy at best?

    marijuana signals while walking onto the field?

    where is this line? how low will you stoop?

  91. Keepitreal Says:

    Fungi—- your right aloha Marcus( goodbye)

  92. WS99 Says:

    Marcus Mariota = Alex Smith

  93. Yungry Says:

    Keepitreal:Yungry—- get FACS straight. Didn’t shoot any animalas and if you call getting your team to playoffs a bad year
    You get your facts right this is a team sport! Show some respect to the other 21 starters on FSU’s team.This isn’t golf. Keep defending this thief if you want, that is a fact watch the tape

  94. Lord Cornelius Says:

    Even the people writing these articles are still suggesting that Winston is going to be the pick.

  95. whereallthewhitewomenat? Says:

    I support winston whole heartedly and believe this is but another example of the man tryin to hold a brotha down.

    keep ya head up jameis.

  96. Keepitreal Says:

    Bunker9—- sooo much drama! I don’t see New England among many teams falling apart and the community has seemed to lived through all those terrible SB wins. Lord save us. You are talking Hernandes, talib, blunt… On an on. Winston looked like a priest. WAKE UP!!

  97. WS99 Says:


    I drew the line at slamming your gf onto a couch full of guns and beating her half to death. Or at beating your child to the point of leaving lifetime scars but I was overruled, by you if I’m not mistaken.

    Bunch of hypocrites. Beat the drum for Hardy and Peterson but spend all day hating on winston who is NOT a criminal unlike the above mentioned.

  98. Keepitreal Says:

    Yungry— all 52 players love him… Again get your facts straight and get back to watching the Brady Bunch!

  99. Yungry Says:

    I am pretty sure being a thief and stealing on multiple occasions classifies him as a criminal. just saying

  100. WS99 Says:

    And as for yelling at the coach do I need to post the video of Brady cussing out his OC again? Or his recvrs or the refs? Wtf bro. You wanna field a soccer team or a football team? Field hockey maybe.

  101. WS99 Says:

    When did he get arrested for stealing? You talking about the sofa from BK?

  102. Keepitreal Says:

    Yungry needs to do some research and get back to us or not… Just saying

  103. whereallthewhitewomenat? Says:

    lifetime scars????? pleaze. the guy went to far – no doubt. having been hit with switches i can say it don’t take much to leave a hell of a mark. he won’t be doing it again.

    hardy-so what there where guns on the couch. it’s not like he pulled a ray rice on her. he payed his price and learned his lesson as well.

    winston- well he’s only had his handlers, the school etc whitewash his transgressions. he’s yet to learn. but he will in the not too distant future. and if taken by the bucs we damn well better have a back up plan when he’s on orient road.

  104. Lord Cornelius Says:

    I hate addressing robert cuz he is a troll but for fun:

    -The only true stealing Winston did were the free crab legs and it was a hookup that he obviously took the blame for to avoid NCAA sanctions. OMG he got free crab legs what a f*cking menace! Besides that; he drank soda out of a damn ketchup cup in a burger king. OMG what a MONSTER!

    -He shouted an obsenity that was an internet joke. Every QB in the NFL cusses besides Tebow basically.

    -I’ve only read that Winston and a teammate were shooting BB guns in the woods and talked to an officer. As fara s I know Winston wasn’t even involved in the big bb gun battle that resulted in property damage.

    -Yelling at a coach. Once again all QBs do this at times. Convict him for passion? lol

    -He didn’t make marijuana signals you freak. They were duck calls lol why the f*ck would he be making marijuana signals? It doesn’t even make sense unless you have an insane amount of blind hatred for the guy.

    The accusor of Jameis Winston has been shown by her own statements to be a PROVEN LIAR. I don’t understand how people still think of him as some rapist; when all you have to do is read this woman’s multiple contradicting statements to see she is lying.

  105. Keepitreal Says:

    What criminal record? Oh I forgot he doesn’t have one.

  106. Lord Cornelius Says:

    And how do so many people feel Winston hasn’t had to face any punishment for what he’s done? He’s been nationally embarressed and dragged through the mud for years. He was suspended and punished while on the baseball team and while on the football team. You don’t think having his name in tons of NY Times articles and negative press pieces all over ESPN and other news outlets was any sort of punishment? That has likely been a terrible experience.

    What do you want from him? To go to jail for drinking soda out of aketchup cup? wtf is wrong with people?

  107. JFat Says:

    Pretty sure the pick will be Winston, but I think what a lot of people here are missing is even if the Bucs are sure he didn’t do anything wrong…that isn’t necessarily the opinion of the public.

    Many here have gone and read the transcripts and all that crap from the court case(s), but a lot of people aren’t that obsessed and will just take the fact that his name came up in a rape investigation and a documentary and call it a day. This is where the community relations piece comes in. The average person won’t take the time to research everything…and even if they did they might not come to the same conclusions or feel that he is definitely innocent. It doesn’t make it right, it’s just how things go. It’ll all blow over in time unless something else comes up but in the meantime it’s something the PR group and the team will have to deal with.

    Pending civil suits will be tied to the team that drafts him going forward. “Buccaneers Jameis Winston facing civil suit for rape allegation” will be the headline and that’s all a lot of people will focus on. Again…even if innocent, it isn’t the sort of conversation you like to have the face of your franchise involved in.

    These are things the Glazers have to consider, the bottom line should be drafting the best player but if they are close talent wise in THEIR view; why deal with the inevitable headache that Winston will bring when you can just take the other guy and focus on football?

  108. Jack Says:

    The whole country is split over Winston.

  109. robert 9 Says:

    all I know is the should change the theme music from crazy train to the bed intruder song if they get jameis.

    he’ll look right at home in the orange throwback uniform

  110. Love and Warrick Dunn Says:

    Not concerned. At. All.

  111. Drew Says:


    If you had a daughter or daughters would you leave them alone with JW? Only asking because this a valid concern many BUC fans may have. Admittedly, the accusations may only be character assassination. On the other hand, what if the accusations are accurate and true.

    My humblest apologies, but the face of the franchise for me is NOT JW. Stating this pick is linked to the Buccaneers being the laughing stock of the NFL is absolutely foolish.

  112. robert 9 Says:

    what is a ketchup cup? man yall stretch the truth.

    you get a water cup you get water, or get tazered!

    A Florida State campus police report obtained by USA Today and published Wednesday shows that in a 2012 incident, an officer detained Jameis Winston and teammate Chris Casher at gunpoint and handcuffed them over the use of a pellet gun.

    jameis is a thief and has shown he is above reproach / a liar, so how are we to believe him over her? oh, he plays football, got it.

  113. WS99 Says:

    HA ROTF I forgot about the crab legs. LMAO

  114. WS99 Says:


    You are aware that cops are killing black men in the streets like they’re coachroaches right? Oh yea you love that chit. My bad forgot.

  115. bucs4lyfe Says:

    would you leave Winston alone with your daughter???? you nerds that’s the dumbest question I’ve ever heard and you cant be a father…..why the hell would I leave my daughter along with Marcus Mariota moron, why would I leave her alone with any NFL football player unless she had a wedding ring. I see why half of you are so afraid of Winston because you have no damn clue about parenting. you teach your kids to make good decisions, no one is perfect just like everyone here has made bad decisions and your daughter is no different….the rape accuser is not innocent for being caught in that situation…I can just imagine right now how upset her father is to hear the guys in the other room walked in on them both having sex and she jumped up to close the door lol.

  116. Phil Says:

    Any pick other than Winston would be a waste. It also means I won’t live long enough to see the Bucs win another Super Bowl.

  117. WS99 Says:

    Drew Says:
    April 9th, 2015 at 3:41 pm

    If you had a daughter or daughters would you leave them alone with JW? Only asking because this a valid concern many BUC fans may have. Admittedly, the accusations may only be character assassination. On the other hand, what if the accusations are accurate and true.

    My humblest apologies, but the face of the franchise for me is NOT JW. Stating this pick is linked to the Buccaneers being the laughing stock of the NFL is absolutely foolish.



    I have a daughter and yes I would absolutely leave her alone with JW unless of course she’s a stank whore that thinks it’s okay to go home alone with 3 black guys she never met before. Decides to starting sicking his duck, phucks him and then calls it rape when she gets kicked to the curb. No, if my daughter was a little slut whore looking for attention I would not leave her alone with him as to not put him in a compromising position.

  118. robert 9 Says:

    cops are killing everybody. I friggin hate them just yesterday I had one about to friggin pull his weapon on me! because some guy hit my wifes week old car and she exchanged info with him. when she called him to get the money he changed his story and told her to f off. he happens to live by me so I went by his house…he happened to be pulling out and i stopped to ask him WTF. so he smugly snaps my picture and calls the cops. the cops are not always right. as a white male i’ve had my share of cops profiling me whether it be in the wrong part of town or because of something stupid like this. f cops. thats why i don’t buy the whole case closed crap. 1/2 the time their wrong.

  119. tval Says:

    “How are we to believe him over her”???? Its called evidence, short bus..i imagine your father probably raped your mother. Is that why you’re such a kinsmann fan? Go back to alligator army and cry some more crocodile tears

  120. Keepitreal Says:

    I can’t respond to you anymore Bunker. By engaging you in conversation reflects bad on me… Why am I debating a racist dumb a–? Makes no sence. Like banging my head against a wall. He’s all yours 99.

  121. Getaclue Says:

    Just wait till tomorrow when Winston kills it on qb camp

  122. tval Says:

    “1/2 the time THEIR wrong”..i get it, you’re just slow..:(

  123. WS99 Says:


    You know I agree with you on most topic except this. #bucslife

  124. Keepitreal Says:

    ” black, chicken eating, spade, switch, poor, thug” a few quotes from our friend. In memory of Bunker9. Goodbye

  125. Lord Cornelius Says:

    Robert yes and that was in the woods when they were just out shooting; and not the same incident as the one that resulted in property damage.

    You still upset he got some free soda? lol jesus

  126. Lord Cornelius Says:

    When has Winston shown himself to be a liar? He never denied anything he did. AGain you are losing it man

  127. Lord Cornelius Says:

    What do cops have to do with an accusor changing her story 3-4 times and being caught in lies that are corroborated by undeniable physical evidence?

  128. JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:

    Jameis sure needs alot of defending his actions…….if ya catch my drift

  129. robert 9 Says:

    i’m not defending EK. simply saying the fact that she’s a skank means she loses all credibility.

    does not mean her claim might not have merit.

    just like that A hole that lied to my wife after he acknowledged responsibility and gave all of his info and took pictures etc. and is now making this a major pain in the a$$ for us called the cops and used them to his advantage simply because he’s not a man of his word. makes me look like the bad guy/guilty because I attempted to speak with him directly. only in America.

  130. Brawndo, The Thirst Mutilator Says:

    If they decide they don’t want Winston… So be it. I understand. But if they take Mariota, they might as well start looking for head coaches May 1st.

  131. erikISNTsoWISEman Says:

    Joe – you gotta love when people say [Watch the language. — Joe] like this. The traffic on your site has got to be going through the roof! The number of comments is awesome! Keep up the good work!

    PS This ERIK kid…lol


  132. drdneast Says:

    An average QB can make an average team look poor Bucco Brice. A great QB can make an average team look good or great.
    If you don’t believe me, ask Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or Joe Montana.
    They also make average coaches look like George Halases and Vince Lombardi’s.
    Without Brady, Bill Bellicheat would just be another cheating ex coach of the Browns and the Patriots who got caught cheating.

  133. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Don’t look now, but Mayock now has Marcus Mariota listed as the top QB in hte draft. hehehehheh

  134. Joe Says:

    Thanks erik!

  135. 87Creamsicles Ego Says:

    This one time I farted I think I made a mess 🙁

  136. WS99 Says:

    JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:
    April 9th, 2015 at 4:24 pm
    Jameis sure needs alot of defending his actions…….if ya catch my drift


    I once knew a dude named rasta who joe thought was a bad boy. He defended himself everytime but had to change his screen name. #falselyaccused #bucslife #i’mnotarapper

  137. Dave Pear Says:

    Robert 9,
    If you’re typing you’re lying.
    I thought you’re wife was a lawyer.
    Why is she letting a pea brain handle this situation?
    I really do believe that that college QB that you said raped you really did screw your brains out.
    You are not wrapped real tight.
    Can you say…Coo-Coo for Cocoa Puffs?

  138. WS99 Says:


    Did you know you can’t even type the word “r a s t a” on JBF? What do you have to say in your defense?

  139. robert 9 Says:

    she is, but does not practice. I am the sole provider. I was not looking to handle anything, thats what the insurance company is for. as a headhunter, it’s my nature to find people and the guy lived on my way to work and i drove by. stupid on my part to try to talk to him when he pulled out. should have known he was a liar pu$$y b*tch

  140. WS99 Says:



  141. Dave Pear Says:

    What’s up? Long time since we talked.
    I still read but I find myself getting up set at the 3 A$$kateers.
    Robert 9, subpar sam and Barry the serial car thief, that I choose not to comment.
    Another name that gays you put on moderation probation is g-a-t-r buc.

  142. WS99 Says:

    Yes he’s uf alum now. These guys help me pass the day. If not I’d be bored as hell. Plus I like to argue, you know I’m a non-practicing lawyer. Lol

  143. Dave Pear Says:

    Gets not gays.

  144. Dave Pear Says:

    Yeah me neither. I just play one on TV.
    But those 3 guys I mentioned are seriously
    in need of psychiatric treatment.

  145. Dave Pear Says:

    Robert 9,
    “Should have known he was a liar pu$$y b*tch.”
    Were you talking to yourself in the mirror?

  146. Erik the WiseMMan Says:

    @ Joe,
    What, I kicked it off nice for u, right? Lol, I should get a commission check!!!

    Nice theory, but the most viewed stories here are never the ones you think they’d be. Only a very tiny percentage of readers look at comments. –Joe

  147. WS99 Says:


    You are on fire! You know MM plays a qb on TV too. Lol

  148. Dave Pear Says:

    Was he the QB on “Friday Night Lights?”
    Loved that show.

  149. Keepitreal Says:

    No he was the QB in lingerie bowl.

  150. WS99 Says:


    You ever seen waterboy?

  151. JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:

    Nice theory, but the most viewed stories here are never the ones you think they’d be. Only a very tiny percentage of readers look at comments. –Joe

    Only a very tiny perectage of posters look at the articles….

  152. Keepitreal Says:

    No that would be you Fungi… Fitting name bye the way.

  153. Erik the WiseMMan Says:

    @ Joe,
    Oh, then can u elaborate on the ‘thanks erik’ post? I actually thought I helped u with my ‘controversial’ initial post….

  154. grafikdetail Says:

    delusional LOL

  155. Dave Pear Says:

    Of course.
    Love me some Adam Sandler.

  156. WS99 Says:

    Yea I think the kid will be a great qb for chip kelly but not for lovie “I don’t wanna score points” Smith. Lovies wants to win 17-13. Control the ball and run the ball. I’m not convinced this kid can handle the beating he’s going to take. Look at what happen to manziel last year. Jake locker retired. Vick is all beat up. Yea running qbs in the NFL, like the QB Killa once said “I wish a team would run the option in the NFL, please”.

  157. Keepitreal Says:

    You tie the people pulling for MM on this site.. Bunker9, subparsam, fungi, Eric, yungry and what do we have? Maybe a half brain combined. Like trying to reason with a 5 year old. It’s all comming into focus now.

  158. JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:

    Yeah….but WS99…..Lovie will only be here one more year anyway….so Mariota will have 1 year under his belt when Dirk takes over for Lovie

  159. JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:

    WS99 you are right about “running QBs”…Mariota is fast and smart enough to know when to go down. You are also correct , Jameis will not hurt himself running the ball……unless he tears his anterior KFC muscle

  160. Keepitreal Says:

    Was that humor

  161. WS99 Says:


    Mariota may not make it to year two, that’s my point. Secondly, I truly believe you guys are giving Koetter too much credit. How many points did his offense score against Carolina for the NFCS championship game? What’s been the Falcons record last couple of years? How many pro-bowlers did he have on offense in Atl vs how many he will have here? Brace yourself.

  162. WS99 Says:

    Lol, that’s was funny actually. Although I don’t think he’s fat but he is uhm never mind. Lol.

  163. WS99 Says:

    ” Mariota is fast and smart enough to know when to go down.”

    That’s what he said. Lmao

  164. Dave Pear Says:

    In the infamous words of Andrew Dice Clay….
    So I’m in a line in a bank and I got my tongue up this chicks a$$!

  165. Yungry Says:

    Keepitreal Says:

    April 9th, 2015 at 3:28 pm
    Yungry needs to do some research and get back to us or not… Just saying

    Maybe you need to read up on your man crush. His theft incident was caught on Publix video cameras and was witnessed by an employee. Now combine that with the fact that he admitted guilt and apologized. If you are in denial its okay. I am just keepin it real! You can go back to searching for Winston’s jock strap on ebay now

  166. Dave Pear Says:

    Even though I only play a lawyer on TV, a criminal is someone who IS Arrested.
    Show me where and when Jameis was ever arrested.
    I rest my case your Honor.

  167. Yungry Says:

    @ Dave
    Its actually Yungry.
    crim·i·nal (krĭm′ə-nəl)
    1. Of, involving, or having the nature of crime: criminal abuse.

    Stealing is a crime and he was involved. Does anyone else need to be schooled on this lovely evening?

  168. Dave Pear Says:

    I should add that a criminal is someone who is arrested AND found guilty in a court of law.
    None of these things happened to our new #1 draft pick, Jameis Winston.
    Now I rest my case.

  169. Dave Pear Says:

    School me some more Hungry.
    Still not getting it.

  170. JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:

    Jameis sure needs alot of defending his actions…….both on and off the field….

    for a player speculated as being the first overall pick

  171. rayjay1122 Says:

    This is the problem with ownership by committee here in Tampa. If the Glazers screw this up and we have to continue to endure losing seasons, I swear I am going to change allegiance to a new team until the Bucs get new ownership. I have been skeptical and critical of the Glazers ownership ever since Malcolm became ill.

  172. Dave Pear Says:

    Get down off the ledge.
    The Glazers are all for Winston.
    The baby sister will not screw this up.
    Now go have a nice cold frosty beverage.

  173. Yungry Says:

    I just googled Dave’s Dictionary and couldn’t find your definition anywhere. I did find these at

    a person who steals another person’s property, especially by stealth and without using force or violence.

    crim·i·nal (krĭm′ə-nəl)
    1. Of, involving, or having the nature of crime: criminal abuse.

    If you cannot understand these simple definitions then you have no hope and I could see why you are like talking to a door knob. Also, someone can be charged with a crime w/o being arrested. i’ll let you find that definition hint:R.O.R

  174. Dave Pear Says:

    You really hate Winston.
    I’m not going to miss you here on JBF when we draft him.
    Bye Bye.

  175. Yungry Says:

    I wouldn’t mind us having Winston or Marucs to be honest. I thought Winston had a better Combine and took charge! Believe me I’ll be around. But you might think I hate him, when all I am doing is saying the truth. If me telling the truth about somebody makes me a hater then i guess I am one…

  176. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater Says:

    The racists were out in full force in this thread….

    I think it’s time for many to get some new material.

  177. BlogTalkFootball Says:

    Here is what will happen on draft day: Titans will beg to trade up for Mariota, Bucs will take the bait and trade down a spot. Titans will take Winston. Bucs will end up with crab on their face.

  178. Bucfan4life Says:

    Lol, so many posts on this thread over an article where a guy has no real inside knowledge. Seriously, are we supposed to believe that the Glazers called this guy in for a meeting to give this guy the inside scoop? C’mon man!