Mariota Knows He Does It All
April 23rd, 2015
Joe chatted off the record with a decision-maker for a team other than the Bucs at the NFL Owners meetings last month.
The discussion was about Marcus Mariota, and Joe asked about the typical Mariota concerns.
Draft junkies have heard them over and over: Mariota hasn’t had to read defenses or call plays. He hasn’t played in a pro-style offense, so he’s a projection at the NFL level. He hasn’t been called on to make many anticipatory throws, etc.
The NFL executive used the term “ignorant” to describe anyone who doesn’t think Mariota has the skills, smarts and experience to transition very quickly to any NFL offense.
It was a powerful word from a very powerful, knowledgeable guy.
Mariota himself was asked about his knocks on SiriusXM NFL Radio yesterday. Co-host Jim Miller laid out the case of the naysayers. And Mariota didn’t give them any credence.
“Again, it just comes down to people’s opinions. Within our [Oregon] system we know we have to make decisions, we know we have to be able comprehend what we’re seeing in terms of reading defenses and understanding what type of front these defenses pose against us,” Mariota said.
Joe knows the Mariota Gang is alive, strong and antsy in the Tampa Bay area. They just can’t believe the Bucs might be so ignorant to actually draft Jameis Winston in seven days. Most Bucs fans would rejoice if Winston’s name is called, but the Mariota Gang might just lose their minds.
You can hear more of Mariota below, via the Sirius audio player.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:04 pm
Yea, Mariota is quite prepared to look at pictures of Gumby, Farrah Fawcett, a dinosaur and a slice of pizza on a giant card from the sideline and determining the right play
But when it comes to play calling NFL style, what did Mariota say a couple months ago?:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/19/marcus-mariota-says-his-biggest-adjustment-will-be-huddling/
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:05 pm
Joe knows the Mariota Gang is alive, strong and antsy in the Tampa Bay area. They just can’t believe the Bucs might be so ignorant to actually draft Jameis Winston in seven days. Most Bucs fans would rejoice if Winston’s name is called, but the Mariota Gang might just lose their minds.
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Except the meltdown by you and many other posters if they pass on Winston to take Mariota will be at least 3 times bigger than the reverse.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:06 pm
No Rapist please, Draft a winner in Mariota. Start Glennon next year, either way the Bucs aren’t going to win more than 4 games anyway.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:06 pm
Joe, youre doing the straw man thing again.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:07 pm
M.M. will turn out to be a better qb in the nfl then Mr. Winston
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:08 pm
I’m going to predict Barry, Robert 9, and a slew of others will bash Winston, and anoint Mariota as the second coming of Steve Young.
On the other hand, myself, 1987, Love & Warrick Dunn, and others will support Winston. How much longer until the draft?
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:09 pm
And I’m pretty sure Barry is going to do his hashtag thing again, which makes absolutely no sense.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:11 pm
@Dave,
In case you aren’t aware, Winston isn’t a rapist. Wasn’t charged with rape. He wasn’t even charged with sexual assault. Unless you were there, you are making a false statement with absolutely no proof.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:12 pm
Ben not according to Dennis Dixon and Darrin Thomas.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:21 pm
Lets let these guys play some snaps before we say who’s right or wrong.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:26 pm
As long as Winston comes in ready to play and work hard in preparation for September, I find it pointless to harp on his past. If we had that mentality, Brooks and Sapp would never have become Buccaneers. Jameis and Koetter will result in a much improved offense and he will only get better. Now Mariota can be great too. But he will be spending alot more time working on the basic stuff that quarterbacks must do where as Winston can jump right in. That and the leadership Jameis commands are why I feel he is worth the first overall pick and Mariota is not.
But if we did go with Mariota it would still be a drastic upgrade over what we sent out last season. So really it’s a win win.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:27 pm
I’m not going to lose my mind unless they don’t draft one of the 2 QBs.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:30 pm
# 5 = Josh Freeman & Winston
# 8 = Steve Young & Mariota
You make the call!
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:32 pm
No alleged rapist as the face of the franchise.I like Marcus Mariota on the field as the better prospect in the long run.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:40 pm
SUPERMARIO!!!SUPERMARIO!!!SUPERMARIO!!!
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:40 pm
Fun fact:
The two qbs with the most wins in ncaa history are Kellen Moore (50-3) Boise St. and Colt McCoy Texas. Both came from a spread offense and both are great NFL qbs. Third is Andy Dalton out of TCU again a spread offense, he too is great (in the regular season) and fifth on this list is Peyton Manning (39-6) not as good as the rest but he tries.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:44 pm
Jim – Great job
I will go with, as if I had any other choice, whoever Koetter goes with, but the latest Winston story about being given free food from Publix by a buddy at this time is too much.
Why can’t he say he made a mistake because he didn’t say this when they stopped him did he? I don’t trust someone who can’t do this and unless the buddy was the manager, he couldn’t do this without being fired.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:46 pm
I cant wait for the Bucs to draft Jameis next week.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:47 pm
Sorry Joe, but you have your facts wrong again
According to the St. Pete Times, NFL.com, ESPN, Twitter, the Bucs own site Buccaneers.com, and many others that have REAL fan polls and voting, the large majority of Bucs fans DO NOT prefer Jameis Winston to be drafted here. Only on here at JBF does Winston win the vote
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:49 pm
:# 5 = Josh Freeman & Winston
# 8 = Steve Young & Mariota”
You make the call!
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This may take the cake as the stupidest post of the year. And that’s a very prestigious honor.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:50 pm
Again……..NOT ONE rumor in peak silly season for ANYONE trading up for Jameis……Bwhahahahaha…..plenty of interest in Marcus……
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:53 pm
Mariota is a bigger, faster, stronger Russell Wilson. He will be a successful NFL QB as long as he (and this applies to Winston too) is allowed to develop at the appropriate pace. In a perfect world, a rookie QB should ride the pine the first year…but of course that’s not always possible. Whether we go Mariota ( my choice) or Winston, I hope we keep and start Glennon until our new signal caller is ready mentally and physically to go. Who knows, if Glennon plays well, we may even be able to get more for him next year!
Whoever our QB is, we better add a couple of worthy linemen to protect him, or it will be last season all over again!
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:55 pm
The pick SHOULD be Mariota, but it will be Winston.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:56 pm
We’d be smart to sit either one the first year, what with the OLine being so bad this year (and it will be).
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:57 pm
Smart teams would try to acquire the Bucs first pick next year…because it will be high.
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:58 pm
I’ve watched Mariota play in person in Eugene 6 times, and I can say the guy is just spectacular. If the Bucs draft him or not he will be fun to watch in the NFL and his team will be a winner.
Don’t beleive for a second all of the things the so-called experts say, this guy can really play
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:02 pm
Bonzai
Good Call
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:05 pm
@ OB
Being a former college football player, I can tell you that collegiate athletes get “free” stuff like food and drinks on a weekly basis. Get over it.
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:07 pm
Of course he can play when he knows what the defense is doing every play and his guys are wide open cause the defense is confused. Only problem is last time I check only one team on the league runs that offense and it is not the Bucs. Outside of Philly Mariota is going to be a huge bust.
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:08 pm
….and, he was protecting the program by taking the heat for it.
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:09 pm
@Hawaiian
And P.J williams should only have one D.U.I
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:11 pm
@Bucs#1
Joe knows what the real polls say.
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:13 pm
Really don’t get how anyone thinks that Mariota is the better pick when everything, yes everything, about Winston says he will be better at the next level. People talk about Mariota’s upside being a pro for him and Winston not having as high of a ceiling. Winston has never fully devoted himself to football, so his ceiling is way up there. His starting point, in a part time role, has people calling him a savant and raving over how well he knows the game. The only plus for Mariota is that he can run faster. Ask the teams who have Kaepernick, RGIII, Vick, Manziel, and Josh McCown how well having a mobile QB is working for them. I get the Wilson and Rodgers argument but I would argue that Winston has shown the ability to be mobile on a similar level in that he can move when he needs to and get the first down when it’s necessary, which is how Wilson and Rodgers run.
Winston is the guy. It’s not even close. People who are arguing otherwise is just silly. Pat yourself on the back about how you’re waiving the flag for the “good guy” but that’s the lesser pick in terms of getting us to where we want to be.
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:14 pm
Oh no! The phones are ringing off the hook! Perhaps many are now thinking the Bucs will do the inevitable? GO Mariota!
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:18 pm
JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:
April 23rd, 2015 at 12:50 pm
Again……..NOT ONE rumor in peak silly season for ANYONE trading up for Jameis……Bwhahahahaha…..plenty of interest in Marcus……
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you didn’t know all the interest is in trading up for mariota because Winston is the best quarterback in the draft and bucs would be foolish to pass on him? I know you’ve been a hermit since Winston started his college career but it’s taking you wayyyyy to long to catch up. mariota went from playing backup in high school to starting in a gimmick offense in college. tampa needs the most ready to start day one quarterback and that’s Winston….joe keeps posting how the bucs don’t think they are as far off as people are saying and you aren’t getting the hint. Winston and mariota are better than glennon and Winston better than both
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:19 pm
“If you pay attention to what the fans say, you end up sitting with them.”
I know Licht shares that opinion because he agreed with that quote on the air. He doesn’t care what the fans think because it’s his butt on the line.
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:20 pm
Supermario with another touchdown.Tampaaaaaaaaà
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:21 pm
Jameis Winston = Josh Freeman + Byron Leftwich
Marcus Mariota = Aaron Rodgers + Russell Wilson
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:21 pm
Mariota could be injury prone when he gets into the NFL, due to his outstanding running skills. If you take away that threat to keep him healthy then what are you left with? Does he have elite passing skills? I say Winston does! Case closed! Draft Winston
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:21 pm
Just a bunch of trolls on here. It’s absurd.
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:27 pm
Always cute when Joe throws the Mariota gang a bone. He found one guy to say that he doesn’t need to make a transition in the NFL and they get all excited. Enjoy it guys. You can hope for 6 more days and then crushing blow of reality sets in You guys might even cry when you see JW smiling wide while sitting next to his Grandma wearing that Buccanner hat.
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:29 pm
Patrick in VA Says:
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:21 pm
Just a bunch of trolls on here. It’s absurd.
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You can thank Joe for that. Shocking, but bait/troll posts generally results in getting trolls and people who are easy to bait.
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:32 pm
Mariota sounded too arrogant there. No thanks
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:34 pm
Pat VA
Would those be Scandinavian or Norse Trolls?….I know Norse Trolls are scary!
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:40 pm
@bucrightoff – I’m not sure that I’m so quick to blame Joe. I mean, I can appreciate an effort toward balanced coverage, especially on a blog site where you really don’t have to be balanced at all. I like the fact that the Joes try to give multiple sides to a debate. What I don’t care for are the people who come on here with no reasoned analysis and nothing of any substance to add to the debate. They come on with their firmly held beliefs and they look for things that confirm what they believe and try to detract from the things that they don’t believe to be true.
It’s more of an indictment on our society and how we consume our information now and share ideas more than it has anything to do with the Joes at all. No one knows how to have healthy, constructive debates anymore. It’s an us against them mentality where people only listen to the other side of the argument to find things to turn back on them and use against them. Not to consider their opinion and retort with something that’s well thought out.
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:41 pm
BN posted an article today which says winston is the second highest rated qb behind Andrew luck. Mariota is ranked 6th behind Blaine Gabbert, whoever that is.
I say go ahead and draft Mariota, at least we’ll be consistent as the bottom dwellers of the NFL.
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:42 pm
@OAR – much worse than either of those. Their bridge trolls. They lurk in the darkness and come out long enough to lash out at passers-by and then go back into the shadows. Far away from anything resembling logical thought and information that would help to lend credence to their opinions
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:42 pm
I hope Winston has his Jets hat with him next Thursday
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:42 pm
They’re. Auto-correct got me again
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:42 pm
I concur…very lopsided site here…last year it was al about Johnny b good. Thanks.
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:47 pm
Patrick in VA Says:
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:40 pm
@bucrightoff – I’m not sure that I’m so quick to blame Joe. I mean, I can appreciate an effort toward balanced coverage, especially on a blog site where you really don’t have to be balanced at all. I like the fact that the Joes try to give multiple sides to a debate.
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261 Jameis Watches, at least another 250 posts with bait posts mentioning Jameis, mostly potshoting Mariota, and maybe 25 posts specifically about Mariota (mostly negative), but yeah, very balanced. Joe figured out the recipe to get page clicks (and it’s not insightful analysis….), and he’s riding it. Good for him, but the quality of this site has significantly decreased the last two years.
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:47 pm
Wyoming. Haha
Except Mariota had a better QB rating, better completion percentage..
Russell Wilson is doing very well and he is a running QB..
Don’t say something and have nothing to back it up..
Oh yes Winston Blind Followers just say Winston’s the best Winston’s the Best..
Now answer Why with Facts….
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:49 pm
I’m with meh. I’d be more disappointed if we didn’t draft a qb with the first pick. I’d only trade down if we could rack up picks n guarantee picking mariota. But that is a risk I don’t think I could take. Glennon is a good qb just for the things he has done with such crappy teams n is worth keeping as a backup. Both jameis n marcus have a higher chance to be great than glennon does. If calling a play in the huddle is the biggest thing for the kid to master then it really is an easy decision over behavior problems. I believe these two are about equal in terms of talent with the edge going to mariota for his ONFIELD decision making. I’m not biased I just have a strong opinion. I love my team tampa bay n if we go with jameis guess what I’m going to a jameis winston fan. He isn’t on the team so right now I can’t be forced to like him to be our qb. I like mariota’s qb play n I am a fan of his, just my preference. Yall like stats mariota was number 2 in qb rating his freshman n sohomore years. Behind (mm 86.2) manziel 90.3 n then manziel 85.5 (mm 88.0) jameis winston 89.4. Last year he was number 1 at 90.9 n winston at 74.5. U gotta like consistency n the progression. U can cry system but the west coast style is similar with the run game n short passes with occasional downfield throws minus the read option but teams are growing more comfortable with a handful of those in games. We need to stay on the field n keep the ball out of our opponents hands something mariota has consistently done.
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:50 pm
Oh let’s not forget these two have met in a game and How did Winston look in that game..
I love the Winston statue of liberty fumble. Hahaha
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:53 pm
@Bucrightoff – I share your frustration with the bait posts and it gets under my skin how well it works like the pied piper to draw all the rats out. That’s not on Joe. They’ve got families and mortgages and all of that. That’s what pays the bills. The onus is still on the fans who come here to discuss the team to elevate the level of debate and commentary on here. It’s like getting mad at the networks for giving the Kardashians so much money for being awful people. If we could get people to stop watching it and demand better programming before we tune back in then the programming will improve. Much like this site. If those “Jameis Watch” posts didn’t get a blip on the radar, they’d go away. There have been plenty of things the Joes have tried out that fell off the map because they didn’t get much traffic.
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:54 pm
ATrain Says:
I love the Winston statue of liberty fumble. Hahaha
if that ball was a box of KFC extra crispy….one he never would have lost it
second …he would have been first to recover it…
April 23rd, 2015 at 2:01 pm
@ATrain
really your still comparing mariota to Russell Wilson. didn’t Wilson run spread option and pro style, because I seem to remember glennon being his backup at some point in college plus he’s a 5th year senior. mariota isn’t going to come into the nfl starting day one LIKE WILSON so don’t compare the two
April 23rd, 2015 at 2:05 pm
Why are we talking about a guy going to another team. Benjamin Albright says it’s a done deal. He will bet his yearly salary. Pretty strong words. #BookIt
April 23rd, 2015 at 2:06 pm
Can’t wait for Winstonites to freak when we draft Marcus! Go Bucs!
April 23rd, 2015 at 2:07 pm
Mmmm KFC….reminds of the last time I touched a breast it was out of a bucket!
April 23rd, 2015 at 2:21 pm
#rapist #criminal #thief #profanity #1-year wonder #Mariota #winner #future #real #recognize #real #Yungry
April 23rd, 2015 at 2:24 pm
gotbbucs Says:
April 23rd, 2015 at 1:05 pm
@ OB
Being a former college football player, I can tell you that collegiate athletes get “free” stuff like food and drinks on a weekly basis. Get over it.
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Oh so that makes stealing right cause others do it?? Jeesh. I own my own construction company and of one of my employees “GIVE” you one of my tools then you BOTH just stole from ME. Why do you guys stick up for his stupidity so much and try to write it off as immaturity.??? My son is 7 and he owns two bb guns and he knows better than to shoot other peoples property and he knows better than to steal food and drink. I understand the guy can really spin the ball but C’Mon with all the excuses for the off field stuff will ya?
April 23rd, 2015 at 2:35 pm
Never mind. I see now, it’s the Winstonite Trolls and the Mariotaian Trolls! I hear trolls love to eat crow and on April 30th they will have their fill one way or the other.
April 23rd, 2015 at 2:50 pm
Jameis Winston = Statuesque
Marcus Mariota = Picturesque
April 23rd, 2015 at 2:51 pm
I see we’ve got most of the delusionals all in one place up in here. I imagine quite a few of these names we will never see again after Winston has been drafted.
JoeJoes Fungi Nails Says:
“if that ball was a box of KFC extra crispy….one he never would have lost it
second …he would have been first to recover it…”
I’m surprised you didn’t add watermelon in there to go along with the fried chicken Joe Joe. SMH
April 23rd, 2015 at 2:58 pm
Trust me. When we play in Philly in late November, we will benefit having our quarterback command the huddle with authority. It may seem trivial but its all kinds of little things add up to being ready to run an NFL offense. Say your running a play action out of a single back formation with three wide, a tight end lined up next to the right tackle and a running back. Jameis has run these types of plays that require you to turn your back to the defense for a second. Its alot different than sitting cozy in the shotgun. And say Koetter tells his quarterback to switch to another play if he see’s blitz. Jameis had to look for that stuff before. Mariota not so much. He would look to the sideline as would the entire offense to know wether or not to change the play. Its details like this that Mariota would have to learn. Jameis already knows this cause he did all those things in FSU’s offense. So since all of these things are second nature to Jameis, he can essentially jump right in day one and work on plays and game plans, while Mariota is still working on basic quarterback concepts. Im sorry but because of all that I want Jameis starting week one. There would be less growing pains and those pains will be bad enough as it is without all the extra learning curves.
That is why I want Jameis to be our quarterback. Why do some of you call Winston a rapist and say Mariota is better. Are the concepts of running a pro style offense not important. Or have you seen Mariota do all of these things before? If so when? I want to know why Mariota will be a better quarterback in the NFL than Jameis. Or are you just using the opinions of some talking head to support your stance to save you the burden of thinking for yourself?
April 23rd, 2015 at 2:59 pm
@ATrian
Come talk to me when Mariota brakes his leg, look at RG3
April 23rd, 2015 at 3:10 pm
Ok I’m on the fence but listening to both sides I’ve come to a conclusion, these guys are apples and oranges…Mariota is pretty clean off the field but in that offense..every qb has looked good. Winston is scary off the field but on it, the guy makes plays and is as Brett Favre-like as can be. And guys c’mon with the chicken comments. White people eat chicken as much as black people…maybe not fried but it’s still chicken. Lol. And didn’t Mariota have a fumble similar to Winstons in the championship game?
April 23rd, 2015 at 3:51 pm
I am certain that my worst fears will be realized next week. I would love to see us trade down for a huge bounty, but my gut tells me Winstons card is already printed. That being said I hope and pray he is the real deal and I could care less about these off the field accusations until they have a real effect on my favorite team!! The BUCS!! Fire the cannons!!!
April 23rd, 2015 at 3:55 pm
Bucwarrior1977
Mariota doesn’t fumble, he never turns the ball over, he’s lightning fast (he ran a 4.5 40 you know) so defenders can’t even catch him and he can read defenses so well that defenses don’t even get a chance to touch him or sack him. He’s the real deal. Here’s proof.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3IVItiAYx8I
April 23rd, 2015 at 4:01 pm
If the Bucs take Winston, I’ll burn my merchandise and find a new team. I’ve put up with enough of their crap through the years, that would be the last straw. They aren’t my family, I don’t owe them a single thing. They’re a business, a monopoly in fact, so they don’t get blind allegiance from me.
April 23rd, 2015 at 4:01 pm
I think as a general rule anyone who compares Mariota to Russell Wilson should be repeatedly hit in the face with a bag full of nickels. Some people really have no clue in the differences between running a little read option versus running the spread, fast-paced Oregon offense.
I’ve said it a million times, so why not once more: I’m not saying Mariota can’t be a great NFL QB, but history gives almost no successful QB from a similar system. I’m not talking over the last couple years, I’m talking about EVER! Maybe you could say Kaepernick (who really isn’t that great), but his college offense was far less gimmicky than Oregon (I saw him get his arse beat by the University of Hawaii, which tells you quite a bit). Now eventually someone will be successful coming from that type of offense, but it sure is a helluva risk for a team to take, especially at #1 when there is a prototypical NFL QB available, one who had every bit as good of a college career. Yes, Jameis is a risk too, and yes he could very well bust. There are no sure things. But if my job was on the line, it would be the easiest decision I could ever make.
April 23rd, 2015 at 4:08 pm
@Zam,
I’m sorry, but that makes you an idiot. You are like all those Cleveland fans that burned Lebron jerseys, then threw a party when he came back. You’ll be right back on board if we are in the playoffs every year and Mariota is working at Zippy’s. If you believe Winston is a bad guy, I’ve got news for you – every team has bad guys on it. Our Super Bowl team had bad guys on it – did you boycott the Super Bowl? Don’t try to get all high and mighty, and definitely don’t believe that anyone (including the Bucs) give a damn about what you think. They’re trying to win games. If you win games, you could have a team full of mass murderers, and the average NFL fan could care less. You go ahead and burn everything. While you’re at it, you should hold your breath until someone from the Bucs organization comes to save you.
April 23rd, 2015 at 4:39 pm
Case in point…Exhibit A…neither QB has snapped a ball in the NFL…so throw out this Pro ready BS already.
April 23rd, 2015 at 5:08 pm
Here here Hawaii I hope we can remain in agreement during the season too.
April 23rd, 2015 at 6:27 pm
Comparing winston to luck is just as crazy. So take ur turns.
April 23rd, 2015 at 7:05 pm
If the Bucs draft Mariota and he leads us to victory, I would be thrilled. I prefer we draft Winston but if we draft Mariota im not going to cry about it. Im going to support him because he’s a Buc.
April 23rd, 2015 at 9:03 pm
WS99 Uh…. Mariota had 27 FUMBLES at Oregon. Nice try! Clueless like i thought. Keep trying.
April 23rd, 2015 at 9:08 pm
Pat: Pro Ready BS? Winston will start week one in a PRO OFFENSE. Mariota will not start YEAR ONE in a pro offense. He’ll be lucky if he starts week one if Chip Kelly drafts him. How is that BS? Clueless! Another clueless Winston hater.
April 23rd, 2015 at 9:35 pm
In 3 years of college football. How many turnovers has winston had in 2 years?
April 23rd, 2015 at 9:46 pm
I will support either QB. I would rather Mariota over Winston but I guess after having such a lousy last decade of football from the Bucco’s I feel pretty good about having the choice of either of these up and coming stars. You really want to see a “Melt Down” check back if Lovie trades down and we don’t get either as well as going with a long shot prospect in the 2nd or later. That will be a laugher. Bring on the draft! Go Bucs!
April 23rd, 2015 at 10:28 pm
How can anyone down play someone playing in a pro style offense. Mariota would get killed if an NFL team employed a full time spread offense. He has to learn the pro style. I think he can in time but Lovie dosent have time. He needs progress.
Janeis and Koetter will make good use of our play makers. Doing so will take alot of stress off of our o line and our running game.
Im not gonna lie, Mariota could be really fun to watch in the fourth quarter running no huddle with all those four receiver sets. But unless the Bucs plan on employing that for four quarters, its gotta be Jameis.
April 23rd, 2015 at 11:25 pm
You guys make me laugh when you compare Mariota to Rodgers. First off Rodgers came from more of an NFL system and actually throws accurate. I mean sure mariots throws accurate, WHEN THE RECEIVER IS WIDE OPEN, which is pretty much every play. To settle this all, let’s have winston and Mariota line up and each throw 10 passes based on pure decision making. Maybe 3 of 10 for Mariota and about 9 of 10 for winston because that is simply what he did in college. To everyone that wants mariota, don’t complain about wanting a playoff year. Because you won’t get that with Mariota. You have a hell of a lot better chance with Winston because he is NFL ready. And to @jim I don’t know what point you were trying to make but that had to be the stupidest opinion I’ve ever seen. What do numbers of QBs have to do with anything?!
April 24th, 2015 at 1:35 am
How is it that Winston is considered to be great at reading defenses when he throws 18 picks in his second year in a very weak conference…When he finally faced real competition aka SEC. teams..Those defenses feasted! Now just imagine how much better and faster NFL defenses play. HIS SLOW FEET AND DELIVERY ,coupled with our pathetic O-line, will certainly mean many INT’S and serious injury. At least Mariota can throw accurately on the run cuz we can’t block.
And to the idiots who say he can’t start day one due to his lack of experience in a pro offense, just look what RG3 did before he got hurt. The difference between RG3 and Mariota is he knows how to run and not get hit when he needs to. RG3 WAS ARROGANT JUST LIKE WINSTON AND PREFFERED TO BE ON THE HIGHLIGHT REEL INSTEAD OF JUST WINNING THE GAME.
Arm of Leftwich
Arrogance of RG3
INT prone like Testaverde
Fat and Lazy like Jamarcus Russell
Speed of a Gopher tortoise
In other words BUST BUST BUST BUST!!!!!!!!
MARIOTA TO TAMPA IS A MUST!
April 24th, 2015 at 2:09 am
So, so, so, so much to work with here but it’s too late tonight.
April 24th, 2015 at 2:38 am
Winston rubs me the wrong way… He comes off as shady… Cant trust people like that with responsibilities. Mariota however u can trust… Both guys are great playmakers… I’d prefer to go the Mariota route, he’s the full package, and u need the whole thing… Not just a pocket passer… QBs need to be a runner too just in case… Its a whole new dynamic defenses must account for.
April 24th, 2015 at 2:47 am
However I can’t see the bucs keeping Glennon and raising up mariota as a backup… They’re two completely opposite sides of the qb spectrum per se …. Winston could play under Glennon as backup to get game ready… But San Francisco used Colin kaepernik in this fashion… Its a toss up really… Alex Smith was more of a pocket passer and BAM!!! running qb took 49ers to next level… They even went more college style offense house formations and wing t, option to accommodate their qb…. It’s all in utilizing your talents… Don’t think Lovie can handle that… Hard to say
April 24th, 2015 at 2:57 am
Keeping Glennon and drafting Mariotas would essentially require the offensive squad to learn two playbooks… As Glennon is a traditional pocket passer… I think given a better o line he could be a great qb… Wow he’s got talent, but anybody behind Tampa’s oline is chopped liver, suffice to say. Mariotas scrambling ability is in contrast here, like how often would u need to practice running plays involving the qb with Glennon present… I’d love to see mariota play with Glennon in 2 qb wildcat style formations… WR, h-back catch n pass, reverse n pass stuff… Winston is so one dimensional when u expand your mind like this… It almost hurts to think outside the box though
April 24th, 2015 at 2:58 am
Nice way to avoid the obvious. Hard to argue facts.
April 24th, 2015 at 3:24 am
I think the people want to see a hot shot qb cuz its a popular trend… Just remember Tampa won Superbowl with Brad Johnson and DEFENSE. They’re o-line wasn’t even very good… Trent dilfer won a Superbowl in Tampa… As a raven… So who’s to say drafting defense is not smart? I’d rather see smothering defense before Winston at qb here… Imagine top 5 defense and Glennon throwing minimal interceptions and most importantly… More opportunities on offense than a poor defense would provide in sacrifice for winston
April 24th, 2015 at 4:35 am
Joe is trolling you mariota clowns..lol!! such easy click-bait. You can find 1 scout to say any ridiculously positive thing about any every prospect every single year. Russell rodgers and marcus arent in the same mold. Anyone is clueless who makes that analogy. Those guys play nearly exactly the way jameis does, only russell doesnt have his talent. Marcus’s ceiling is alex/kap type of careers with kap being a very long shot. I dont care if marcus has the ’85 bears, he aint no punky qb..:) that team would still struggle with marcus. He can be bottled up and made entirely one dimensional if the run game stalls(buckeyes arizona stanford) like chip had happen numerous times last season. marcus wldve been even worse, im afraid, simply because he has zero respect from defenses. Sanchez at least knows how to manipulate somewhat and make adjustments/go through progressions. 2 years and marcus will be where jameis was his rs fr season, as far as knowledge of the position. Fact!
April 24th, 2015 at 4:38 am
A “whole new dynamic”??? You mustve missed guys like tarkenton with the vikes and douglass with the bears decades ago…silly..:)
April 24th, 2015 at 4:48 am
“Mariota knows how to run and not get hit when he needs to” hahaha!! Yeah those snac 12 defenses are a good indicator of what he’ll face. And anyone dogging the talent the acc produces, while hyping the sec, has literally no idea what theyre speaking about..none..and i love sec football..just not factual..duke a&m, gt ms st, nd lsu and most important fsu and aub ended that myth. We can just stop taking you clowns seriously with comments like that..why did we ever?
April 24th, 2015 at 5:00 am
Sorry didn’t word the “new dynamic” part correctly. I know its not a “new” thing to run. Good day
April 24th, 2015 at 8:46 am
It really doesn’t matter which QB they select, with Lovie at the helm he’ll be ruined within two seasons. Here’s my guess, Lovie has convinced the boys that he can win with Winston, well, news flash, Winston is no where near ready to lead an NFL team game one, especially one with O-line issues. You thought 18 ints against mediocre college defenses was a lot, wait until he faces professionals, who actually get paid to read QBs and to know their tendencies, like throwing high and right under pressure or not seeing (EVER) the dropping LB. We’ll be wishing for 2-14 come mid season. The kid is no savior, neither one is, they both need to be groomed, Winston may be more intuitive in a pro-style, pre-snap read offense, but history has shown very few rookie QBs are prepared for the pro game fresh off the college field, he’s not Andrew Luck, as much as you want to compare him to him, he’s just not. Be prepared for another horrid season, who ever they draft. And full disclosure, I can’t wait for the day that Lovie is fired, it can’t come fast enough for me.
April 24th, 2015 at 10:09 am
Except Mariota had a better QB rating, better completion percentage..
Russell Wilson is doing very well and he is a running QB..
Don’t say something and have nothing to back it up..
Oh yes Winston Blind Followers just say Winston’s the best Winston’s the Best..
Now answer Why with Facts….
Atrain you want facts here they are….
Russell Wilson, was 19th in passing attempts (ehh middle of the field)
20th in completions (ehh middle of the field)
15th in Passing yards on the season (ehh midlle of the field)
23rd in passing yards per game (Starting to think he sucks)
and Seattle had the 23rd ranked passing offense (Starting to think he sucks)
So how does he have ALL these wins well one he is on the team that is #1 in Rushing Offense and he is the rushing leader amongst QB’s….. But just like we were afforded the wonderful pleasure here in Tampa he has THE #1 RANKED DEFENSE!!!!!!!! He is not great by any stretch. He has been lucky enough to land on a team with a great Defense and you know what happens between next year and two years from now? That defense stops dominating and Russell Wilson will fade. Now….. he will get a huge contract and then he will turn into the most overpaid QB in the league.
I think both of the QBs have a chance to great in the NFL but can we let them get into the league and play a little bit before we start comparing them to anyone that is already established in the league?
April 24th, 2015 at 5:47 pm
I’d like an IQ test for Mariota supporters vs Winston supporters. Winston people seem genuinely dumber.