When Will The Madness End?

December 8th, 2014


Joe has just about had it. Joe is sick of p!ssing his Sunday afternoons away watching a putrid offense that more often than not makes Joe want to stick his finger down his throat.

How the hell is it that an offense, full of veteran NFL players, can be so pathetic? How can they not know what play to run coming out of halftime?

How can they get flagged for an NFL-leading 111 penalties? How can they not snap the friggin’ ball?

High school coaches would have a fit over this. How can this happen on the NFL level?

Gary Shelton wonders himself. The veteran sports columnist, host of GarySheltonSports.com, had seen enough Bucs games to scar him for life and is of the belief the Bucs offensive has been offensive since it won the Super Bowl some 11 years ago.

For crying out loud, what does this offense do well? Second-string quarterback Josh McCown, who continues to hold off third-stringer Mike Glennon, threw two interceptions and was sacked six times. The running attack got all of 26 yards for a nifty 1.9 average. The team piled up another nine penalties, which gives the team a league-leading 111 for the season.

Yeah, that’ll keep opposing defensive coordinators up at night.

The sad part of this, the part that will make you weep is this: This has been going on, pretty much, since the Bucs concluded their victory in the Super Bowl all of those years ago. Since 2009, this was the 49th game in which the Bucs have scored fewer than 20. It hasn’t mattered who the coach has been who has tried to make this offense coordinated, or who the quarterback has been, or who the forgettable members of all of those forgettable lines have been. There are cobwebs on the scoreboard. There is rust on the cannons.

The Bucs offense is so out of whack, nice guy though he may be, Marcus Arroyo should be tapped on the shoulder, offered parting gifts and Tampa Bay should turn the offense over to George Warhop for the final three games. At least Warhop has professional offensive coordinator experience.

If the Bucs feel bad for Arroyo, who really was forced into no-win situation, then they can offer him a free seat in the coaches’ box upstairs, so long as he can prove he can count to 12.

30 Responses to “When Will The Madness End?”

  1. DallasBuc Says:

    Whatever you do don’t hold Lovie responsible. He should only be praised.

  2. bucrightoff Says:

    Raheem = defensive guy
    Schiano = defensive guy
    Lovie = defensive guy

    So if you’re wondering why it’s 49 games under 20 points of offense, it shouldn’t be a shocker. Doesn’t even matter if they draft a QB with Lovie as coach, it’ll be the same. Hire a real offensive coach as the Head Coach and maybe things will change. Drafting a QB with Lovie as coach seems like such a gigantic waste of that pick.

  3. billy buckaroo Says:

    These last three meaningless games will only serve to get someone needlessly hurt who prob should not be playing much the rest of the year as in McCoy this last week.
    Bring in the backups as it will hardly have any difference in the score anyway.
    McCoy – David any others you like should have limited playtime now.
    McCoy knee thing this week was poor coaching decision

  4. Spirit of '76 Says:

    The stadium is built on some cursed Native American burial ground.

  5. Reezy Says:

    Can’t understand why this team is so terrible. I mean come on the Raiders are moving in the right direction what is up in Tampa!

  6. Jerry Says:

    The Glazers tried to get Chip Kelly but he wanted nothing to do with Freeman and this offense. That was probably a good decision on Chip’s part because Freeman was going to blow up any coach that came here.

  7. meh Says:

    Warhop? Are you effing kidding me, Joe? Have you seen the line play this year??? I mean Arroyo’s terrible, but Warhop?!?

  8. Buccfan37 Says:

    Bucs getting the ball in second half are dead meat. No oomph, just splat.

  9. mikeh Says:

    HEY JOE- its called coaching! get used to puking. joe!

  10. biff barker Says:

    Errr, Lovie turned the OL over to Warhop Joe.

    BTW, no Buccaneer coach or assistant saw 12 men on the field for 2 consecutive plays! Fire the entire lot.

  11. 727Buc Says:


    I’m with you on Warhop. Putting him in charge is a stupid idea. Check the performance of his last o-line after he left and you’ll see how much the Bucs line will improve once he’s gone.

  12. Bucsfan4lyf Says:


    Marcus Arroyo is terrible! He’s predictable, doesn’t know what audibles are, and to top it all off, he agrees with Lovie to keep playing McClown.

    NFL draft can’t come soon enough, how pathetic to be saying that in December 🙁

  13. bucs4lyfe Says:

    When Will The Madness End? in about 3 more games. who says chip Kelly isn’t smart…..stop wondering why he turnt down this losing franchise, what are the glazers asking these coaches for that they hire? control, final say in matters they know nothing about? we’re stuck with lovie but even worse we’re stuck with the glazers boys

  14. Tye Says:

    When Will The Madness End?
    Probably not as long as Lovie is HC!

    He has won only 2 games in 2 years… I know he was out of the league last year but it still counts because it is a year of experience he missed and now seems to have hurt him tremendously…. He thought sitting around in his basement, he would be wise to build a winning team in his mind so that when given the chance he would look like a genius… NOW, he looks the fool and his basement buddy, Tedford, was wise to dodge the bullet….

    Expecting Lovie to field a winning team is like expecting an elephant to fly!

  15. Yungry Says:

    Fire everyone! Remember, after the Rams game week 2? Lovie Smith said, “he didn’t want to score points.” I lost all respect for him then… Go back and watch what he said…

  16. Vincente Says:

    It’s not the coach. It’s the players. I believe Jay Gruden said it best “if I have to motivate a professional football player to play football than maybe we need different football players. These guys are pathetic. Forget the gameplan if Landry was here these players would not execute in game day. LVD, GMAC, ME13 show how much they love football but everyone is just kicking back. You can’t blame the coaches. It’s the PLAYERS!

  17. Yungry Says:

    Who brought in the players?

  18. 1bucfan88 Says:

    Because Warhop is doing such a brilliant job with his current charges. I’m frustrated too, Joe, but that idea is just plain dumb.

  19. RealityCheck Says:

    #itsabucslife – most ironic slogan possible

  20. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    @ billy buckaroo

    I agree with you to some extend but I look at it differently….rather than resting good players to keep them from getting hurt….I believe we should play younger/inexperienced players to give them experience.
    Ultimately it ends up the same.
    Its not in my DNA to look at any game as meaningless….it will be very meaningful for Green Bay, Carolina and probably the Saints……we could end up spoiling it for them……obviously, it is meaningful to the coaches & players as you would want it to be.
    We don’t have to try to lose to get a better draft pick….we can lose playing our best football which has just not been good enough.
    I think we have some bad coaching, mainly from the assistants….sure Lovie has made some mistakes and he signed off on his assistants….but they need replacing.

  21. Tye Says:

    Whose responsible for putting the best players in the game? HC
    What if the players suck? The HC pulls them and replaces them
    So if a team is crappy, who is MAINLY responsible? HC

    That is the reason for having a HC, to make decisions for the team… When those decisions are the reason for bad players being on the team, it is the HC fault!

  22. DooshLaRue Says:

    Hey Joe…. why do you have to induce vomiting?

  23. SJK Says:

    WOW is all I have to say, I grew up in NY when Parcells was the Giants coach, Michael Johnson would be sitting, Gilkey would be walking the street, Collins would be sitting. None of this lack of effort would be tolerated. I believe the entire offensive coaching staff should be let go as well as players who have already checked out. Try & find an OC with a good track record, good schemes and overpay if you have to for a really good O-line coach.

  24. Skyline Crew Says:

    I blame the Glazers

  25. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    bucrightoff Says
    “Raheem = defensive guy
    Schiano = defensive guy
    Lovie = defensive guy”

    Good point, but going offense does not mean improvement. You left off Gruden from your list, who is included in this article as part of the scoring issue. I say stay with Lovie, but the Glazers need to force some other moves. Last time they did, we ended up with a Superbowl.

    Reezy Says
    “Can’t understand why this team is so terrible. I mean come on the Raiders are moving in the right direction what is up in Tampa!”

    They drafted a franchise quarterback, and it is making a difference. They still have a bad oline, but they are now free to make it better while their QB grows.

  26. warrenfb12 Says:

    Hiring an offensive HC might help. Cant keep handing the reigns over to defensive guys expecting to get elite offensive mind help.

  27. bucrightoff Says:

    Bonzai proves again how little football he actually watches, as the Raiders have allowed the 5th fewest sacks in the NFL. That’s not exactly what qualified as a bad line.

  28. Kevin Reader Says:

    Very true article. We have had OL issues for 10+ years now.

  29. Brandon Says:

    bucrightoff Says:
    December 8th, 2014 at 2:10 pm
    Raheem = defensive guy
    Schiano = defensive guy
    Lovie = defensive guy

    So if you’re wondering why it’s 49 games under 20 points of offense, it shouldn’t be a shocker. Doesn’t even matter if they draft a QB with Lovie as coach, it’ll be the same. Hire a real offensive coach as the Head Coach and maybe things will change. Drafting a QB with Lovie as coach seems like such a gigantic waste of that pick.


    John Fox, defensive guy
    Tony Dungy, defensive guy
    Bill Belichick, defensive guy
    the list goes on and on and on and on…

    It isn’t nearly as much about the coaching as it is about the players. The Bucs have very little talent on the offensive side of the ball.

  30. bucrightoff Says:

    What do you know, they all had top 5 QBs ever. Wow! We might win some games if we can miracle our way into one. We picked the wrong year to do this, 2011 for Luck was the year. 0-16 would have been worth it.