McCown Logic Is Hard To Explain

December 14th, 2014

mccownlovie1After today’s display of poor ball security and pedestrian play, Josh McCown’s statistics now reveal a veteran quarterback who is worse than Mike Glennon in nearly every category.

Man, Glennon sure could teach McCown how to tuck the ball and eat a sack, a lesson McCown simply hasn’t learned.

McCown fumbled three times today, at least two were on him.

He completed less than half his passes.

Joe can’t comprehend the logic at One Buc Palace that has McCown serving as starting quarterback. He is without question the sixth-best quarterback in the NFC South.

Look, Joe’s been screaming for the end of the McCown era since he walked off the field in Atlanta following his third humiliating game as the Bucs starting quarterback and the team sitting with a 0-3 record.

Starting Glennon still makes every last bit of sense in the world — unless the Bucs are gunning for the No. 1 overall pick in the 2015 NFL Draft.

That’s the only logical explanation for forcing Bucs fans to endure two more starts for McCown.

52 Responses to “McCown Logic Is Hard To Explain”

  1. Lovie equals 2015 Blackouts Says:

    McCown sure looked better than YA BOY, Johnny Manziel.

    LOL @ Joe.

  2. Arealbucsfan Says:

    Looks like joe philbin will be fired after rhe season. We could hire him as our OC. What do u guys think?

  3. tickrdr Says:

    Some of us felt the Josh McCown era as a starter should never have begun:

    Posted by me before the season started:

    The MG8 led Bucs played the 17th ranked schedule based on the 2012 records of their opponents. But in the actual 2013 season the Bucs beat the 4-12 Falcons once; beat the 6-10 Bills; beat the 7-9 Lions, and beat the 8-8 Dolphins. They also played and lost the remainder to the 4-12 Falcons, 7-9 Rams, the 8-8 Jets, the 10-6 Eagles, the 10-6 Cardinals,the 11-5 Saints twice, the 12-4 49er’s, the 12-4 Patriots, and the 12-4 Panthers twice, as well as once to the 13-3 Seahawks. Several of those teams made the playoffs, and/or were ranked in the top ten defensively. Their aggregate record was 147-109, which is THE Toughest schedule of all the teams in the NFL for 2013!

    My last point concerns Josh McCown, and his 13 TDs vs. only 1 INT. Two of those five games were against Minn and Dall, where he threw for 6TDs and 0 INTS, the 31st and 32nd ranked defenses overall for 2013.
    —————————————————————————-
    JM12 anointed the starter before the season even started??!

    tickrdr

  4. Spirit of '76 Says:

    Kind of like beating your head against the wall. The only time it gets better is when you stop.

    To think that we went from the celebration of a new coaching staff and “relevance” to now looking forward to the first pick in the draft. How far we have fallen and I didn’t think we could have gotten that much worse after the last couple of years.

    Is One Buc Place built on some cursed Indian Burial Ground?

  5. 87ForJameisOrMariota Says:

    “Starting Glennon still makes every last bit of sense in the world — unless the Bucs are gunning for the No. 1 overall pick in the 2015 NFL Draft.:

    “That’s the only logical explanation for forcing Bucs fans to endure two more starts for McCown.”

    Ding ding ding. We have a winner winner chicken dinner Joe.

  6. JH Says:

    I definitely see Glennon scrambling for an 12 yard touchdown. Please stop the love fest for this guy. Please.

  7. IK Says:

    Mission accomplished, barely! McCown able to secure the loss and maintain a Buccaneer stranglehold on the number 1 pick in the draft.

  8. Bucnut2 Says:

    Lovie equals, right on. Haven’t heard joe pounding the table for Johnny. He’s now on Winston which surely means he’ll be a bust

  9. Buccfan37 Says:

    I think the Glazer boy’s toy keep’s getting re gifted.

  10. SteveK Says:

    Glennon is the best QB on our roster. Lovie is losing confidence with his irrational hard on for underperforming, back up QBs. Smh, we fired Schiano for this guy?

  11. Cannon Fire Says:

    Don’t sleep on Licht, everybody plays him off as Lovie’s patsy, but coming from where he’s worked before he’s seen firsthand the power of a superstar Quarterback and what it can mean for a franchise.

  12. JerseyBucsFan Says:

    i see the logic, Josh gives us the best chance for the number one pick

  13. ToesOnTheLine! Says:

    Schiano took a lot of sh!t for being too stubborn to stay with a hurry up offense because it wasn’t practiced during the week, it cost us one game. Lovie’s stubbornness to stick with McCown has cost us a bunch of games as well as a chance to compete for the historically bad 2014 NFC South division. Hopefully the Glazers take a long hard look at this season and ask themselves if the path they’re currently on is leading towards a championship team

  14. tmaxcon Says:

    the bucs dont have a single nfl caliber qb on the roster. it just doesn’t matter who lovie starts. the only fix for bucs is the glazer clowns eating a 20 million dollar crap sandwich and can lovie….

  15. Cannon Fire Says:

    Boy I bet ‘ol Jeff Tedford just about had a heart attack when he first heard the plan to rebuild the franchise by losing almost every game this season!

  16. OB Says:

    Joe you are ranking McCown much too high, I think he might be the ninth ranked in the division, behind all the other first and second string QBs and our third string QB, that makes ninth ranked. He does take a beating I have to admit.

  17. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    “Is One Buc Place built on some cursed Indian Burial Ground?”

    No but it is built on the Malcolm Glazer burial ground. Again the common denominator since the Bucs SB win and our race to the bottom has been the Glazer boys.

    If a person looks at an organization and says the buck stops here, where does it stop? At the very top! Especially when every position has been changed numerous times except for one…the owners.

    Chucky, Rah, Schiano, now Lovie…but only one ownership through it all.

    The next billboards up on Dale Mabry shouldn’t be “Fire Lovie” they should read…sell the Bucs Glazers. Or please help we Buc fans Jeff Vinik.

  18. tickrdr Says:

    SteveK Says:
    December 14th, 2014 at 7:08 pm

    Glennon is the best QB on our roster. Lovie is losing confidence with his irrational hard on for underperforming, back up QBs. Smh, we fired Schiano for this guy?
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    Glennon is also way better than any other QB drafted in the last two years.

    Derek Carr: After 14 games — 18 TDs 11 INTs.
    Teddy Bridgewater: After 9 games — 11 TDs 10 INTs
    Blake Bortles: After 11 games — 10 TDs 17 INTs
    Johnny Manziel: After 1 game — 0 TDs 2 INTs
    EJ Manuel — After 15 games — 16 TDs 12 INTs
    Geno Smith: After 26 games — 20 TDs 33 INTs

    Mike Glennon: After 13 games — 19 TDs 9 INTs
    ” ” : After 18.5 games — 29 TDs 15 INTs.

    I hope they trade MG8.

    tickrdr

  19. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    It only makes sense to start McCown if you are planning to trade Glennon and draft a QB.
    Glennon has proven himself to be a capable backup & have some promise with a team that can protect a QB.
    Lovie doesn’t want to get him hurt….only two games left and Glennon will be undamaged trade bait.

  20. Larry Says:

    If Glennon stinks the place up, he’ll have no trade value. I say trade him for a 3rd or 4th round pick, sign Sanchez to a contract, trade our #1 pick to some team desperate for a QB to secure some good picks and draft Conner Cook from Michigan State to develop around Sanchez. Get some players we desperately need and make the playoffs in 2015 or 2016.

  21. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    McClown has thrown an INT in every single game he has played this year except for the Skins game. But don’t worry, he has plenty of multi-pick games (4) to make up for that little blemish.

    What Liar Smith has done to this franchise is a travesty. At least Schiano finished 4-4. At least I could WATCH Schiano’s Bucs without wanting to punch the drywall every damn play.

    I know he won’t be fired, no question. But I am totally in favor of it. Done with this buffoon and his retarded quotes. If they are actually competitive next year I will gladly take some crow, but there is a snowball’s chance in hell of that happening.

  22. tgreg Says:

    tickrdr

    I am with you. Glennon deserves better than this moron. Nothing would make me happier than to see him as a Saint and beat Lovie twice a year.

    Somewhere Schiano is gasping for breath laughing at Lovie and his “we were a 4-12 team”

  23. ufcguy Says:

    Cook is not coming out so again stop with the non sense. Pick the top qb and then o line

  24. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    The logic for playing an “experienced” QB over a 2nd year player is ball security and better judgement.

    McCown is a turnover machine and Glennon, regardless of what you think of his physique or looks, has clearly done a better job at protecting the ball.

    For a defense first coach who wants his QB to first do no harm, no stupid turnovers, I honestly do not get how Lovie sticks with his turnover machine.

  25. Mando Playr Says:

    @tickrdr

    Your post is right on.
    There is no way that McCown should be starting over Glennon. I too hope he gets traded. Would not be surprised to see him go to N.O. as back-up to Brees. Sean Payton appreciates his talent and doesn’t care that he was Schiano’s pick.

  26. tickrdr Says:

    tickrdr Says:
    December 5th, 2014 at 11:05 am
    Offensive line or no offensive line, only THREE QBs have thrown for more TDs in their first 19 games, than MG8′s 29 TDs.
    Russell Wilson with 32 TDs in his first nineteen games.
    Aaron Rodgers with 32 TDs, but he didn’t play until his fourth year in NFL.
    Peyton Manning with 33 TDs, but also had 33 INTs in those 19 games.
    I hope MG8 gets traded.
    tickrdr

  27. tickrdr Says:

    @Joes:

    Can you please tell me why posts are time-stamped an hour later than when posted? Thanks!

    tickrdr

  28. Rob Says:

    McCown logic is sound – he’s the most direct path to the #1 overall pick.

    That’ll be his Tampa legacy – and if whichever QB ends up in Tampa succeeds, we’ll be thanking him for the next decade.

  29. tgreg Says:

    I am sure that Lovie is on the verge of creating an offensive juggernaut…LOL

  30. Skyline Crew for Mariota or Winston Says:

    I think you can argue Joe that Lovie and Co. are tanking the season by playing McCown. They are afraid they might win a game with Glennon playing.

  31. tmaxcon Says:

    I hope all you Glennon fans own up to it when your boy only fetches a 7th round pick and is out of the league in 3 years. Life is so unfair that he did not hae 10 all pros starting next to him.

    tckdr —

    comparing Glennon to other quarterbacks who suck does nothing to win your argument. Put his numbers up against WINNERS…. Every time someone does put 8 up against winners the excuses and creative math run wild. He sucks and is not a long term answer period.

  32. Simpleasthat Says:

    I’m glad L&L weren’t as inept as joe otherwise we’d be stuck with Manziel.

  33. tickrdr Says:

    tmaxcon Says:
    December 14th, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    I hope all you Glennon fans own up to it when your boy only fetches a 7th round pick and is out of the league in 3 years. Life is so unfair that he did not hae 10 all pros starting next to him.

    tckdr —

    comparing Glennon to other quarterbacks who suck does nothing to win your argument. Put his numbers up against WINNERS…. Every time someone does put 8 up against winners the excuses and creative math run wild. He sucks and is not a long term answer period.
    —————————————————————————–
    Did you not see this part from above?

    Offensive line or no offensive line, only THREE QBs have thrown for more TDs in their first 19 games, than MG8′s 29 TDs.
    Russell Wilson with 32 TDs in his first nineteen games.
    Aaron Rodgers with 32 TDs, but he didn’t play until his fourth year in NFL.
    Peyton Manning with 33 TDs, but also had 33 INTs in those 19 games.
    I hope MG8 gets traded.

    tickrdr

  34. tickrdr Says:

    @tmaxcon:

    Or how about these, also posted previously. Don’t take my word for it, go and look it up yourself.

    In their first 19 games in the NFL: ( I hope all my math is OK)
    Flacco: 20 TDs, 14 INTs
    Rivers: 27 TDs, 13 INTs
    Newton: 23 TDs, 22 INTs
    Ryan: 21 TDs, 12 INTs
    Roethlisberger: 28 TDs, 13 INTs
    P. Manning: 33 TDs, 33 INTs
    Luck: 26 TDs, 19 INTs
    Rodgers: 32 TDs, 13 INTs (But this was his 4th year, 1st as starter)
    Griffin: 26 TDs, 9 INTs
    Vick: 18 TDs, 10 INTs

    A certain backup QB on a terrible team: 29 TDs, 15 INTs (18.5 games)

    tickrdr

  35. sho nuff Says:

    hubris…dungey.2….but then again it could be a faith thing, its why dilfer got another year

  36. tmaxcon Says:

    tickrdr

    hey your numbers are flawed for 2 reasons:

    1) Most of his numbers were in GARBAGE time.

    2) You have not included win / loss records of QB’s you are comparing him to.

    I am sure you math is fine that being said the object of the game is to WIN games to WIN the Superbowl. 8 has NO heart and has not demonstrated that he can make players better around him. I have seen enough.

    I am glad you like him though but I want super bowls. I have about 10 years left before I am fish food and I’d like to at least challenge for a playoff win before that time.

  37. tgreg Says:

    tickrdr

    Logic and facts are ill-served here. Making up crap seems to be better received

  38. tmaxcon Says:

    tgreg –

    what’s glennon’s win / loss record…. Is that not FACT or are the excuses going to fly….

  39. tickrdr Says:

    @tmaxcon:

    As a cardiologist, I can practically guarantee that Mike Glennon has a heart, as he seems to be breathing and moving about, because otherwise that would be an anatomical impossibility. We’ll just have to agree to disagree about his potential.
    I hope they trade him to the Patriots, because they may be able to get the 4th rounder back they gave up for Mankins. I’m surprised that you (no one else did either) did not want to take me up on my bet regarding MG8’s rookie stats vs. any of the incoming drafted QBs.

    @tgreg
    Agree completely. But it is obvious that Glennon does not have that “it” factor, amirite?

    tickrdr

  40. buccoon Says:

    The plan was to see which players can really play since we are rebuilding if ur lucky it can only take one year to be great.. since we suck like we should we are lucky to be able to draft mr unbeatable winston.. two guards that have potential to be dominate can massively upgrade the oline keep dotson at left tackle keep martin and jackson!!! Draft speedy wide receiver i prefer a white dude!! Lol draft another cornerback draft defensive ends for both sides… we also need two coverage linebackers trade goldson he dont belong in a bucs uniform in sign two more safetys. with winston as quaterback guards thats can passblock and runblock and lovie Smith as headcoach. Tampabay will shine in shock the football word. Its not like it hasnt happend before. ..

  41. tickrdr Says:

    In 2013, during that “garbage time” known as the “first half” of games, Glennon had 13 TDs and 2 INTs with a QBR of 102.7

    tickrdr

  42. IdahoBucsfan Says:

    Lovie is in denial.

  43. Oahubuc Says:

    He needs to learn on the bench behind Glennon. And then take a walk off the Skyway.

  44. Connor Says:

    At least Glennon has the potential to get better unlike McCown who has proved for 12 years that he’s horrible

  45. White Tiger Says:

    Wow. I can’t believe ANYONE would want to start Mike Glennon after what they saw today…the poor kid would be dead. He doesn’t have the anticipation or footspeed that McCown has.

    This offensive line is SO bad that it is amazing we could string drives together. The only thing that kept them off McCown was that they were so susceptible to the run and that kinda worked for us so long as we were in the lead.

    Once we got behind and had to throw, that ferocious defense was all over McCown. Even still, Lovie’s defense gave us a couple of opportunities late to re-take the lead…we just had to overcome THEIR defensive pressure…and that required more than ‘lookout’ blocks from the o-line.

    On that last TD, the QB was in the crosshairs of Carolina’s defensive front 4, if we’d had Glennon in there…that would have been a sack, and the best we could’ve done was settled for a field goal…still 2 scores down…

  46. AK Says:

    Josh isn’t even the best Mccown in the division.

  47. Zam Says:

    The guy has zero pocket awareness and horrible ball security… he shakes off a defender and then lets the same guy knock the ball out of his hands. Did he think the guy just vanished into thin air?

  48. Mr. T Says:

    Agreed, it appears they have already decided to trade Glennon next year so why not keep him safe on the sidelines. I hope he goes to a team with competent owners, management and coaching, if that happens I feel he has the potential to develop into a good QB. Next year will certainly be interesting to watch.

  49. Please Says:

    Did someone seriously suggest Mark Sanchez?

  50. DallasBuc Says:

    Joe can’t comprehend the logic at one buc place starting McTrash at QB?
    Wow, that’s bold commentary. Sure do wish this logical skepticism in the media entered the conversation when this disaster started raining down back in May. As I recall it was a sweet serenade of hopeful optimism for the guy that’s never done it before after 12 years. There is a lot of stinky brown stuff in the teeth of of a few folks around here…

  51. JJBuc Says:

    The only reason I can think of for Lovey to still set Glennon is that The Dog has loveys Ear and allegiance. Unfortunately! Can’t wait to hear the gloating when Glennon is traded and starts for another team. Sorry Joes, you never liked him either. Enjoy McCowen get you your coveted #1 draft spot. You saw today how well your coveted Johnny football played today. Remember Glennon’s first start?

  52. Phillip Says:

    Keep posting the same basic numbers in every article… It’ll get through to one person… Eventually

    I think it’s fairly obvious why McCown is starting… Glennon had his chance and didn’t do anything with it… Lovie/Licht saw how terrible the team is and if he didn’t suck out loud for the number one pick he was going to be canned if we had to endure another season of this hot garbage leading our offense…

    They are going to be called into the Glazer’s office and asked wtf happened this year and Licht will right hook Lovie before he can say a word and say we are drafting Mariota number one that is why we sucked so bad this year. They will be saved for another year…. Unfortunately