Bucs Must Be Prepared In 15 Days
December 14th, 2014
Joe’s getting nervous.
Will the Bucs be ready to hire a new offensive coordinator in 15 days, when Black Monday comes and coaches are fired around the league?
The Bucs must be prepared to pull the trigger on the best candidate money can buy. If they’re not ready, another team can swoop in. And there is no excuse for not being ready. Every year, there is major upheaval in the NFL coaching ranks, and all kinds of moves go down fast.
Even the craziest of rah-rah Buccaneers fans knows de facto offensive coordinator Marcus Arroyo should not return in the same role next season.
That’s clear.
So now what? Are the Bucs ready to pounce?
Joe suspects the Bucs are as ready as they could be at this point. Team Glazer, hopefully, has demanded to see a short list and demanded readiness.
The bungling of that hire would be far worse than anything Bucs fans have seen on the field this season.
Don’t let hit happen, Bucs.
December 14th, 2014 at 6:21 pm
How about that Jeff Tedford fella?
December 14th, 2014 at 6:26 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo’s favorite TV Series is the O.C. It excites Pablo to hear Buc Fans talking about OCs”
“Pablo’s favorite OC was Greg Olson/Olsen…..but Pablo doesn’t think we can get him to stop playing TE for the Panthers…..
December 14th, 2014 at 6:32 pm
I can’t wait to see how this goes down..
December 14th, 2014 at 6:37 pm
The question Joe should be asking is:
What decent coordinator would WANT to come here?
No guarantee the Bucs will draft a quarterback.
Too much bumbling in the hierarchy and what decent coordinator would want to work for Lovie?
December 14th, 2014 at 6:37 pm
Do the right thing and fire Lovie and hire an offensive coach. No QB could ever succeed under Lovie.
December 14th, 2014 at 6:38 pm
Tampabaybucfan Says:
December 14th, 2014 at 6:26 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo’s favorite TV Series is the O.C. It excites Pablo to hear Buc Fans talking about OCs”
“Pablo’s favorite OC was Greg Olson/Olsen…..but Pablo doesn’t think we can get him to stop playing TE for the Panthers…..
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Former Baltmore Oriole relief pitcher Gregg Olson is available…and perhaps a better OC than Arroyo…who probably called his best game today.
December 14th, 2014 at 6:39 pm
they will have to severely overpay for any oc to even consider working for lovie
December 14th, 2014 at 6:39 pm
Joe, I agree they need to be ready but if they jump on the best available right after the season you may miss out on someone who gets let go a week or so later?
Of course, but you still must be ready on all fronts. –Joe
December 14th, 2014 at 6:41 pm
Are you sure the Bucs want a new OC? I mean, the brains are so secretive. Who is making the selection? Good Luck!
December 14th, 2014 at 6:43 pm
Warhop then Arroyo. The OL is a joke. |The fact that Cousin and Gilkey are still on the team is enough for me to puke
December 14th, 2014 at 6:45 pm
Lovie puts little value on an OC……he probably will make McCown OC, QB Coach & Starting QB……
Kidding aside….the OC the Bucs acquire will speak volumes about the organization….
December 14th, 2014 at 6:45 pm
With the swing and misses on the current assistant coaches and free agents, what confidence do we have that they would be able to lure a premier offensive mind to Tampa? We would have to over pay anyone wanting to handle this goat rodeo and then not get to have any input on their type of player. We will ultimately end up with the fifth best OC and pay him like a head coach just to take the title.
The old saying “the fish stinks from the head” is accurate. The Glazer’s are not bad owners, just inept.
December 14th, 2014 at 6:59 pm
I wouldnt be surprised if L&L are canned right after the aints game….at least one of them!
December 14th, 2014 at 7:01 pm
Still hoping for the Christmas miracle of the Bucs going all in to get Harbaugh and somehow keep the #1 pick they seem to be tanking for. I honestly think Lovie has been the worst Bucs HC since the days before Dungy. I have made no attempt to hide the fact that I thought Rah was horrible…I think he may have been better than Lovie!
December 14th, 2014 at 7:08 pm
Are these going to be the same Glazer boys that oversaw the hiring of Jim Bates and Jeff Jagodzinski? I was just curious because, well……….you can see where im going with this.
December 14th, 2014 at 7:11 pm
Fire Lovie!!!
December 14th, 2014 at 7:15 pm
The head coach must go, we have gotten worse and are paying more for it plus we are the joke of the league with unbelievable plays every week that make most except for Bucs fans laugh, they bring shame on the good guys trying to play, the fans, and the area. He does not deserve another year.
December 14th, 2014 at 7:17 pm
Scott Frost Oregon?
December 14th, 2014 at 7:18 pm
Watching todays game, I felt more apathetic than I ever have watching the Bucs. I really think Lovie should no longer be allowed to buy the groceries. You can go on and on about learning curves and adjustments but when I see this team I see a team that is not better than they were in week one and ultimately they are worse off than they were a year ago. Lovie talked all off season about how the fans don’t deserve to wait and how he was building a competitive team. They are not competitive. They have not made progress. If anything they are worse off than they were a year ago. Lovies team only needed five wins to be better than last year from a W-L perspective. Five measley wins with six games against the pathetic NFC SOUTH. But no. We will likely finish with two wins, only half as many as last year, while going 0-6 against the worst division in football.
So how do the Bucs go forward? Fire Lovie? Bring him in for continuity? Risk the franchise by drafting Mariotta or Winston? This team is so bad it’s almost impossible to tell. What has Lovie established? Nothing. He took a top heavy roster with no depth and made it worse. Where’s the fight in this team? This team is gutless. It’s absoloutley disgusting. If you have no fight then you better have some talent. Nope. Not this team. Are there any great football minds out there who know how to win? Leading the NFL in penalties and a 2-12 record suggest no. At least not many. This team has nothing. What the hell were Lovie and Licht trying to do this offseason? How did they manage to take our crappy O-line and make it worse? Last years unit sucked but at least they had fight. Then they throw all that money at Michael Johnson and he does nothing week in and week out? They have so little faith in their backup(s) that they just let him play like spit week after week. Plus they bring in McCown and think it’s acceptable to just hand this guy the starting job? And our offense sucks because of it! Our O-line is worse and that sad sack McCown just wasted our season! Everything about this season is just a friggin waste!
As a life long Buc fan I am just so sickened by this team! Keep Lovie or fire Lovie what the hell does it matter! This team could’ve been competitive but thanks to Lovie having so much power we suck this year! And we will suck next year! And so on and so fourth!
So next year who ever our head coach is it look like we will be drafting Marcus Mariotta. The kid better be ready to get his arse kicked next year! I hope that it’s the foundation of our team for the next 15 years. I hope whoever our coach is, Lovie or who ever, doesn’t waste an entire off season like 2014. I hope that when we suck next year it’s for a reason and not just because those in charge don’t know what the hell they’re doing. So yeah it’s not the fact that we suck that I am so pissed. It’s why we suck that has me frusterated!
December 14th, 2014 at 7:24 pm
I know Scott Frost and I dont know if he could co-exist with Lovie, it is a very interseting thought though. He actually came to Tampa as a safety after playing QB for Nebraska so he is familiar with our defensive scheme and coached under Chip Kelly.
December 14th, 2014 at 7:29 pm
There is absolutely no way Lovie gets fired at the end of this season….Like it or not, he is with us for at least one more.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Glazers in return take a heavy hand in the OC selection……They need to bring in what could be our future HC.
It would make more sense to throw big money at a top notch OC than to completely go with an entirely new coaching staff.
Who we hire as OC will speak volumes!!!
December 14th, 2014 at 7:37 pm
The one point that I have not seen written or commented on here is with the (wussified) Collective Bargaining Agreement which limits practice time and the number of padded practices. This directly effects player reps thus limiting the actual on field practice time for evaluating and teaching players. Lovie has not adjusted to this and that is why I think the league has passed him by. Plus he was never that good anyway.
you can preach competition all you want but if they are not on the field competing you can’t take chances with players like in the past. You have to hit on each and every draft pick or free agent which I know is not realistic. Missing on the number of free agents and draft picks lovie has this year will cost the bucs for several years and that is why he does not deserve another year even though he will get one.
December 14th, 2014 at 7:39 pm
scott frost is fearless competitive after watching the tape of the bucs gutless team he will never even consider the Bucs. He is a rising star and the last thing he needs is the first NFL coordinator position to be under a clueless dinosaur coach who has a long history in destroying offenses.
December 14th, 2014 at 7:40 pm
^^^^^ Scott Frost is a Ferocious
December 14th, 2014 at 7:49 pm
Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
George Santayana
December 14th, 2014 at 7:50 pm
bucrightoff Says:
December 14th, 2014 at 6:37 pm
Do the right thing and fire Lovie and hire an offensive coach. No QB could ever succeed under Lovie.
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I agree. Fire the head coach and start fresh. The stench is just too strong, and has been, long before the end of the season. We’ve taken 10 giant steps backwards in all phases of the game. The same can be said for the HCs ability to evaluate talent. Fire the head coach. Fire Lovie Smith.
December 14th, 2014 at 7:56 pm
@ tmaxcon
Being able to start from day one with your heisman winning QB that already knows all the terminology would be pretty enticing.
December 14th, 2014 at 8:00 pm
gotbbucs – under any other coach i would agree one hundred percent with you. lovie is too stubborn to adjust his philosophy therefore if i was frost id run from bucs and if i were mariota id stay in school
December 14th, 2014 at 8:02 pm
Ready for what?! All I know is whoever Lovie picks, whether coach or player, they don’t work out. And yet the Glazer dweebs have given him carte Blanche with personnel. I’ll say it again, since Glazers won’t fire him this year, they should strip him of all personnel decisions, hire a new and experienced GM that will hire the new OC to groom into a HC. They should trade the no. 1 pick I.e. RG3 because this team has to start all over again on the Oline, DE, safeties and depth.
December 14th, 2014 at 8:13 pm
To further make Bucs fans feel good about 2014 player/talent evaluation…Marcus Thigpen who wasn’t good enough on the 2-12 Bucs managed to rip off a 75 yd punt return for a TD on his new team (Buffalo)
December 14th, 2014 at 8:35 pm
“Team Glazer, hopefully, has demanded to see a short list and demanded readiness.”
You have more “hope” than me Joe. I’m not sure the Glazer boys know squat about football. That would be OK if they knew squat about the top people in the league who do.
I do NOT want the Glazers involved personally in any football decisions. Spend their time trying to learn the most competent people in the business and hire them.
Here is what the team is facing. A totally disillusioned and apathetic fan base.
A team with glaring needs which includes a new coordinator, OL needs, edge rush needs, and of course a decent QB.
And so the temptation will be to simply take the business short cut and draft Jameis or Marcus and at least sell some tickets.
Newsflash. Drafting a QB #1 will not produce a winning team. Could be good in two or three years but be prepared for a horror show next year if we are going into the season with a “savior” at QB. Pity Jameis or Marcus if they have to carry the hopes of this woeful franchise on their shoulders.
I’m not against drafting either Jameis or Marcus…just saying…drafting a QB #1 or 2 is the same as saying…get ready for another year or two or rebuilding.
How would you like to be a Cleveland Browns fan tonight? What should they do next year? Resign Hoyer? Keep rolling the dice on Johnny INT.
And did Jim Harbaugh a coach I thoroughly respect make a mistake selecting Kaepernik over Smith?
December 14th, 2014 at 8:50 pm
People make me laugh, it wasn’t even a year since the fans on this site and in Tampa Bay ran Greg Schiano out of Tampa. All the talk was how bad a coach he was and we needed a players coach like Lovie. Here we are 10 months later and Lovie is a joke in the fans eyes. There is no patience anymore. Schiano should not have been fired after only 2 seasons after that farce of a coach Raheem gutted a team that was 9-7-0 under Gruden. Schiano went 7-9-0 & 4-12-0 but I feel that 4-12 shouldn’t have been held against him as much as it was. He dealt with the implosion of Freeman, the MRSA in the locker room, a rookie QB starting, Revis no being ready to go man on man and a fan base totally split over the Freeman saga.
Now with all that said I feel Lovie needs time to build HIS team. Many of the players on the O-Lineman will be gone next year, we will have a new QB, new safeties and some new D-Lineman. The defense is starting to come around and I feel we will be a top 10 defense next year. On Offense, bring in a good Offensive Coord. (Chudzinski???), a QB and some lineman and lets see what happens. Lovie needs to give whoever is the next Offensive Coordinator autonomy and let him run that side of the ball and choose his QB. Lovie needs to KEEP HIS HANDS OFF.
December 14th, 2014 at 9:19 pm
bucfan999
it’s been almost 13 years for a meaningful win. How can anyone use the word patience.
Also, LOVIE was the one that ran his mouth about NOT rebuilding and that the FANS do NOT deserve to WAIT for a Winner. Lovie set all of us for this. If he would have taken the job and said give me a couple of years to get it turned around I would agree with your need for patience that is not what happened. He took a bad team and made it worse. Not a single Transaction HE made worked out. Not one free agent is a stud. McDonald is a nice role player but he is not a double digit pass rusher.
December 14th, 2014 at 9:39 pm
The very first person that should be fired on Black Monday is Lovie. For a coach in his 10th year as a head coach, he looks totally dumbfounded on the sidelines and totally in over his head. His horrible and unsuccessful personnel decisions are costing the Glazers millions and he took a mess and made it a bigger mess. He just looks and sounds like he really has no idea what he’s doing
December 14th, 2014 at 10:09 pm
hire some resolve for a change…im tired of these broke a** fakes that either were a complete lie jagozinski *sp and this coward that all of the sudden can walk again after he gets let out of his deal…this is some seriously dysfunctional leaderless s*** the glazers are trying to sell…
hmmm beautiful sunday in tampa bay or this garbage? and they wonder why we don’t go? pfffttt you’re not worth our day
December 14th, 2014 at 10:17 pm
canidates?
trestman
philbin
bill lazor
jay gruden
pete carmichael
mike mularkey
dirk koetter
tom clements
greg olson?
chudzinzki
ben mcadoo
ken whisenhut
December 14th, 2014 at 10:22 pm
LargoBuc: standing ovation. Great post, could not have said it better myself!
StPeteBucsFan also makes a great point of how simply drafting a qb with Tampa’s top 2 pick is not going to make all the team’s problems go away. L&L have a lot of holes to fill. The trenches are weak and judging by what L&L did this past offseason its a sure bet the free agency or trades will not rebuild the line which means the OL has to be built via the draft…. The smart GM would try and trade down and get a slew of picks from some moron like Dan Snyder (if he did not learn his lesson over RG3) and get a kid like Peat from Stanford or Iowa’s Scherff to anchor the OL for a decade and perhaps target a qb like Hundley or the kid out of Michigan state with our 2nd rounder or the 2nd rounder the team gets for trading down and use the other 2nd rounder and 3rd on a G and Center…. But as the team has lost its fan base it will likely just go ahead and draft a qb and start the BS sopinning all over again. Then the Bucs will simply become Jacksonville Southwest with Mariota or Winston getting pummeled like Bortles is right now….
December 14th, 2014 at 10:29 pm
sorry. take clements off that list.
December 14th, 2014 at 10:29 pm
tmaxcon
You make my argument for me. Since Gruden was fired (after a winning season I might add) We as fans and the Glazers as owners have had no patience. Morris was a joke, ran the team like a frat party and only hired to gut the roster and go as cheap as possible. Schiano was hired to bring in some discipline, which he did but the fans and the media didn’t like that much discipline and ran him out 2 years into his rebuilding of the roster in his image. Now we have Lovie and the fans want to run him out after one year of rebuilding the roster in his image. Look at the teams in the league that change coaches like musical chairs….they are almost all none winning teams that are in constant rebuilding modes. The successful teams are the teams that stay the course over 4 – 5 years and once successful have small rebuilding years not the massive ones like the Bucs, Redskins, Browns, Raiders do every 1 – 2 years. The old saying Rome wasn’t built in day is as true today as it was 1,000 years ago even in todays fast pace success takes time. I’m not saying give Lovie 6 – 7 years but he does need to show improvement every year. I would hope that next year we would push for 8 – 9 wins with a rookie QB and a rebuilt offensive line. But like Joe says he needs to hire a GOOD offensive Coordinator and keep his hands out of it, not force McCown on another coordinator.
December 14th, 2014 at 10:36 pm
add greg roman in case harbaugh is gone.
December 14th, 2014 at 10:52 pm
Jay Gruden would be an interesting hire; it does look like the skins have quit on him this season and Snyder will probably fire him just to make a statement about failure being unacceptable (something I wish the baby Glazers would do). The skins are the one team that the Bucs actually looked more talented then and better prepared against all season; I do not understand how they got 3 wins but glad they have them so that Dan Snyder will be behind Tampa in the draft order……
December 14th, 2014 at 11:07 pm
Burn it to the ground.
December 14th, 2014 at 11:08 pm
@Bucfan999……Iagree with alot of what u said sir EXCEPT…..if u are going to make a point, please be correct. Raheem did not “gut” a 9-7 team like u say he did. That was the Glazer’s and Mark Dominik’s idea. He had no say in personnel matters. He openly pleaded wwith his management to resign Cadillac Williams and Barrett Ruud. Yeah, we wouldn’t have won a championship with either one possibly, but they were critical parts of the 10-6 team the year before the debacle year. So let’s stop pointing fingers at Raheem for the team’s problems now. Hell that’s like blaming Gruden for keeping all the old vets around. It’s stupid. This is Lovie’s fault. He’s HC. He needs to figure this out or move on so someone else can. Hope he’s healthy but, SCREW TEDFORD!
December 15th, 2014 at 7:35 am
A loud angry barking dog ran Greg Schiano out of Tampa. All the talk was how bad a coach he was and we needed a players coach like Lovey. Well now we have him and a washed up has been who never was. Only hope for us not getting snake-bit again net year is to chop the head off the snake. He does not even teach tackling fundamentalist. Who said he was a defensive coach. Time to get on the ” Fire Lovey bandwagon “. Oh ya the dog sat back down in his spit.
December 15th, 2014 at 8:22 am
I want Harbaugh! My coaching philosophy has always been this ” never trust the old guy who has never won it” the game is to far ahead of Lovie now