Jameis Watch: Strong Teacher Required
December 3rd, 2014
The Xs and Os gurus are weighing in
Crab-legs-stealing, BB-gun-shooting, obscenity-hollering, Heisman-Trophy-winning, national champion James Winston, the pride of Florida State University, continues to look like a much better quarterback prospect than Mike Glennon and Josh McCown.
It’s Joe’s daily nugget on the Jameis Watch, celebrating the best quarterback to wear No. 5 ever in the state of Florida.
NFL.com already is in draft mode. Esteemed guru Mike Mayock isn’t weighing in yet, but Bucky Brooks and Daniel Jeremiah have dived in.
Of course, Jameis Winston is being scrutinized. Brooks, a former college receiver who was a defensive back and return man in the NFL, dove into a long breakdown.
His analysis makes Winston out to be a project, not a quick fix.
Conclusion
Whenever scouts evaluate blue-chip prospects, they attempt to find a “good” and “bad” tape to watch to see a player at his highest and lowest points of his final season. The exercise is done to get a real sense of a player’s strengths and weaknesses to determine their ultimate potential as pros. Watching Winston’s season-long struggles with turnovers and mechanics, I believe he is a talented but flawed prospect who will need time to develop at the next level.
While he has the talent, confidence, football IQ and charismatic leadership skills to be a franchise quarterback, Winston has only 25 games of major college experience under his belt and hasn’t had enough repetitions to master the nuances of the position. Thus, a team interested in taking Winston as a franchise quarterback needs to have a strong teacher in place in the quarterback room as well as a game plan to foster his development as a young quarterback.
Although he remains the top quarterback prospect in college football with valuable experience running a pro-style system, he is not a plug-and-play prospect who can step in and lead a team from Day 1. In time, I believe Winston will be a franchise player, but his 2014 struggles suggest a patient approach might be best for the team that selects him if he comes out following his sophomore season.
Joe’s not sure about the “patient approach” Brooks talks about, though that’s always wise without a good offensive line in place.
Of course, surrounding any rookie QB with a hard-working veteran presence and a seasoned quarterbacks coach is essential. Sadly, Josh Freeman lost his QB coach in 2009, when Greg Olson was forced to fill in at offensive coordinator. Freeman also had Byron Leftwich to mentor him, not exactly ideal.
December 3rd, 2014 at 4:23 pm
the last thing this team needs is an emotional r***ard….no thanks we need men…we have plenty of boys already
December 3rd, 2014 at 4:31 pm
I really hope the Bucs don’t draft this guy. It’ll be another 5 years of disappointment. I’ve seen his highs and his lows in his short college career, and although his team wins, he shows some things that really make you wonder what the hell he is thinking. Not to mention his off the field antics. Too immature to be a leader of a franchise.
December 3rd, 2014 at 4:37 pm
Josh Freeman 2.0. Avoid at all costs.
December 3rd, 2014 at 4:39 pm
Joe,
You know there are two other qbs that for the bill as franchise qbs and lesser headaches off the field right? Connor Cooke and Marcus mariota.
What is it with you in qbs who have work ethic and off field issues? You loved Manziel last year when he was a risk. Winston is probably a bigger risk and is showing tunnel vision and issues reading coverages.
Joe was pounding a drum for Bridgewater as well, last season.–Joe
December 3rd, 2014 at 4:42 pm
On top of that like the browns have to do with Johnny knucklehead, you really want to have to babysit this clown?
December 3rd, 2014 at 4:47 pm
JW coming to Tampa would be surrounded by capable and talented skill position players, the question will be O-line, can that be fixed. I think with the experienced offensive skill positions (catch radius of receivers, Adrian Peterson running the ball) JW will do just fine
December 3rd, 2014 at 4:49 pm
Mariota and Cook = boring, few comments, few page views
Winston = disaster, lots of comments, many page views.
And if the Bucs don’t draft a QB this year, whatever likely disaster QB will be 2015’s “??? watch”
December 3rd, 2014 at 4:50 pm
Jameis is a ticking PR bomb….stay away…far far away
December 3rd, 2014 at 4:51 pm
Enough already. Are you printing this crap daily? Joe did you not learn your lesson with the Manziel crap?
December 3rd, 2014 at 4:51 pm
Lovie has gone on the re4cord sying Glennon…IS the QB of the future…..
🙂
December 3rd, 2014 at 4:57 pm
Let the ships fall were they may. We might win 2 more games and drop our draft pick lower. Lovie might decide to stick with #12 next year and go def in the draft. he might draft Winston and have him sit till #12’s contract is up. But if we do draft him I think he will come into a structured environment with Evans, and #55 always lurking around. I think it all depends who we hire as OC.
December 3rd, 2014 at 5:16 pm
I agree with letting the chips fall…..Absolutey DO NOT trade up….if the Bucs picking as high as they WILL can not find a player that will help this team with only a handful taken in the whole draft…their troubles are beyond help. Trade down twice in the 1st round I say !
December 3rd, 2014 at 5:46 pm
Mariotta? The TG3 clone? No thanks. Connor Cook is staying at Mich State, and has a dead arm, isn’t very accurate deep, and isn’t the PROVEN winner Jameis is.
Aren’t you all tired of losing yet? Can’t we get a guy who wins. All he does is win.
December 3rd, 2014 at 5:53 pm
Kalind Says:
December 3rd, 2014 at 5:46 pm
Mariotta? The TG3 clone? No thanks. Connor Cook is staying at Mich State, and has a dead arm, isn’t very accurate deep, and isn’t the PROVEN winner Jameis is.
Aren’t you all tired of losing yet? Can’t we get a guy who wins. All he does is win.
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Funny story, this is the exact same argument Tim Tebow supporters make. All he does is win too. So? Easy to win in college. Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Andrew Luck? All won nothing in college.
December 3rd, 2014 at 5:54 pm
I object to the finagling going on behind closed doors with Winston’s hearing. Where is the open hearing to see how the decisions are made and who makes them. Just like the government, all the laws are layed down and then enacted behind closed doors. Why the secrecy? This is supposed to be a government of, by and for the people. That premise has been wiped from existence with nary a peep from a docile public.
December 3rd, 2014 at 6:02 pm
YOU DONT TRADE DOWN WHEN YOU WENT 2-14 AND NEED A QB. YOU DRSFT THE HEISMAN WINNING STUD.NEW ENGLAND TRADES DOWN CUS THEY HAVE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR QB
December 3rd, 2014 at 6:10 pm
You trade down because you need SO MUCH more than a QB…trade down twice in the 1st round and still draft a QB with a 20-32 1st round pick….of course this would be my perfect draft day ….Jameis is a clown…Mariota makes is look easy throwing to wide open holes…holes that will not be there in the NFL
December 3rd, 2014 at 6:15 pm
Last 15 Heisman winners…
Jameis
Manziel
RGIII
Cam
Bradford
Tebow
Troy Smith
Jason White
Carson Palmer
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Danny Wuerffel
Charlie Ward
Gino Torretta
Ty Detmer
It’s usually not a good thing to draft a Heisman winning QB. Not a single elite QB on that list, and only Cam can claim to even be realistically close.
December 3rd, 2014 at 6:24 pm
Marietta over this guy any day.
December 3rd, 2014 at 6:25 pm
Mariotta*
December 3rd, 2014 at 6:46 pm
Only Hall of Fame QB I can think of who ever won a Heisman is good ‘ol Roger the Dodger Staubach.
December 3rd, 2014 at 6:47 pm
If Mark Sanchez can win a playoff game or two. Nick Foles would become trade bait.
Foles would a great addition, especially if we can rebuild the interior line.
RG-Marshal Yanda
LG-Clint Boling
December 3rd, 2014 at 7:28 pm
MARIOTA
December 3rd, 2014 at 8:33 pm
Remember watching Aaron Rodgers sitting there, pick after pick after pick…that will be Winstons draft day….maybe even day two, GMs are so afraid of this moron that he’s probably going to wind up going to a team that doesn’t necessarily need a qb where he will allowed to learn the pro game as well as grow the fuk up, his major issue seems to be he has the mental acuity of a 12 year old, mixing millions of dollars with the mental capacity of a middle schooler gets you JaMarcus Russell not Aaron Rodgers….
December 3rd, 2014 at 9:47 pm
bucrightoff Says:
December 3rd, 2014 at 6:15 pm
Last 15 Heisman winners…
Jameis
Manziel
RGIII
Cam
Bradford
Tebow
Troy Smith
Jason White
Carson Palmer
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Danny Wuerffel
Charlie Ward
Gino Torretta
Ty Detmer
It’s usually not a good thing to draft a Heisman winning QB. Not a single elite QB on that list, and only Cam can claim to even be realistically close.
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Wow. DNKT.
It’s like the Madden curse.
December 3rd, 2014 at 10:09 pm
You anti Winston clowns will be eating your foolish words within 3 years and wondering what could have been.
December 3rd, 2014 at 10:16 pm
Buccfan37…don’t even bother to make a comment on the matter if you don’t have a clue as to what’s going on.
The “hearing” is a SCHOOL hearing. Nothing to do with the government. Nothing what so ever.
So you’re saying FSU should have a STUDENT code of conduct hearing in the open?
The hearing is to find out if he broke any SCHOOL rules.
Got it it now, JBF’s resident conspiracy nut.
December 3rd, 2014 at 11:03 pm
Yup sho-nuff!
Not to mention, who the hell is going to mentor/teach here? We have some of the worst coaches in the NFL
December 4th, 2014 at 12:06 am
winston will sink like a stone in tampa. we lack the structure that consistently good teams need to bring in players who are risky. josh freeman proved just how little there is in the locker room to keep a guy from making terrible decisions that are no way in the interests of his career (i’m not talking rumor, i’m talking about his documented issues with showing up on time and putting in the necessary work to be great and make his team great), and despite bringing in mercenaries who were part of strong playoff teams elsewhere, our leadership within the locker room is not one lick better than it was under raheem morris at the moment.
December 4th, 2014 at 12:33 am
I don’t think the Heisman argument will work though because it looks like Mariota will possibly win it this year.
December 4th, 2014 at 1:02 am
I feel like this guy comes with an instruction booklet
December 4th, 2014 at 7:30 am
Glad he finally got his side of the story on record and for the public to see.
December 4th, 2014 at 8:21 am
We should go all in with Jameis Winston. I been a Bucs fan since 76 and it would be nice to have someone on the team that would bring some excitement which the current team is lacking. This team the way it sits now there’s no reason to even get out of bed and turn the TV on to watch one of their games.
December 4th, 2014 at 9:40 am
As long as there is a daily article there will be a daily request for a poll…..
December 4th, 2014 at 10:58 am
I would say that is false Phil. I enjoy watching Evans play. It is something special to watch him move about the field. However, the rest of the team is awful.
December 4th, 2014 at 12:22 pm
I liken this to the Manziel conversation. Winston may very well be the next big thing, or, the next bust. Like all college QBs, there is no way of knowing. What I do know is that there will be less risky players available in the coming draft, offensive lineman for instance.
If it’s me, I pass. I’d rather take the chance of him being good somewhere else than risk spending the next 5 years lamenting a wasted draft pick.
December 4th, 2014 at 4:47 pm
bucrightoff Says:
December 3rd, 2014 at 6:15 pm
Last 15 Heisman winners…
Jameis
Manziel
RGIII
Cam
Bradford
Tebow
Troy Smith
Jason White
Carson Palmer
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Danny Wuerffel
Charlie Ward
Gino Torretta
Ty Detmer
It’s usually not a good thing to draft a Heisman winning QB. Not a single elite QB on that list, and only Cam can claim to even be realistically close.
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carson palmer is upper echelon qb in the nfl, and had also made a superbowl appearance. i think tampa would be 10-2 instead of 2-10 with palmer under center.