Tampa Bay, Welcome Richie Incognito

August 25th, 2014

richie incognitoDon’t think the Bucs are desperate for help on the offensive line?

Consider that sleazy Richie Incognito is getting an in depth look by the team today, so reports Jay Glazer of FOX sports.

What’s there to say?

Joe can only assume Lovie Smith feels obligated to help his old pal Josh McCown get to his 36th birthday. Why else would one sign a notorious locker room cancer, a 31-year-old most thinking people consider a racist?

Yes, folks Oneil Cousins and Patrick Omameh must be that bad. Keep in mind there’s a reason Incognito is unemployed in a league with a shallow pool of guards.

Joe has to hand it to Lovie Smith and Jason Licht. They promised Bucs fans they wouldn’t be patient building the Buccaneers, and they didn’t think it was fair to ask fans to be patient.

Well, if the Bucs sign Incognito, that would be almost be the epitome of impatience.

Joe wonders whether the dominating defense the Bucs have displayed this preseason has the front office salivating at the thought of being playoff-ready if they can find a decent O-line.

113 Responses to “Tampa Bay, Welcome Richie Incognito”

  1. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    Maybe the Bucs can promote a “incognito car crush gameday!” The bucs setup some old cars and fans can whack on them with a hammer or bat!!

  2. stevek Says:

    This move, if made, could solidify our offense.

    We need to keep this monster in line, and I am all for it.

    We can’t afford to suck any longer.

    This is a potentially huge upgrade.

  3. Love and Warrick Dunn Says:

    That video of him at the poolhall is classic. He is the ultimate meathead.

  4. Orca Says:

    Hoping they don’t sign this turd.

  5. BucsQcCity Says:

    If Vick can be redempted so is Incognito

  6. Nick Says:

    Infinitely better choice than giving up the farm for Boone. Low risk,salary/ high reward. Cut him if he starts up with the nonsense. Most likely knows this is his last chance and will behave as such. Hopefully..

  7. meh Says:

    What a joke. They screwed up the offensive line so badly that they have to look at this jerk.

    Way to go.

  8. Touch_Down_Tampa_Bay Says:

    WOW! Did not expected that one.

    Maybe they are playing with SF.

    Smoke screen???

  9. Gt40bear Says:

    Easy solution if they do sign him. Don’t put him in a leadership role. If EDS is the leader, let him keep Incognito in line. What ever it takes so our backfield doesn’t end up in body casts!

  10. Joseph Mamma Says:

    Don’t care if he’s racist if he can block.

  11. Westsidebucsfan Says:

    Real question is… Do they sign only one or a team of people to keep an eye on this guy? (if they sign him)

  12. Eric Says:

    Wow, I guess Joe has been right about the guard play.

    I figured they would play who they had and the look out blocks were the result of lack of playing together.

    When you bring in Incognito it pretty much speaks for itself.

  13. Tom Edrington Says:

    He’s traveling Incognito.

    Might have to stay that way if the Bucs sign him.

  14. mpmalloy Says:

    Lighten up ladies.
    I’m quite sure he’s learned his lesson and would
    be a huge upgrade.

  15. Captain Stagger Says:

    Awesome! That Oline is soooooo soft right now.

  16. BigMacAttack Says:

    Just Win Baby!!!

  17. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    What this tells us is that the current O-line is still very shaky. After 3 pre-season games they now know that old man mcCown panics when there is pressure.

  18. kevin Says:

    He would be a major upgrade and its not impossible that he has learned his lesson.

  19. RastaMon Says:

    Good….I hope he takes control of the offensive line…..

  20. Eric Says:

    I hope Haynseworth isn’t next.

    I’m officially worried.

  21. Kevin Says:

    If anyone can keep him in line, it would be Lovie. I’m sure he won’t be too quick to do anything stupid given a second chance…maybe he would…Pay him the minimum and dump him if he starts any stuff. You get a pro-bowl lineman for next to nothing. Great move Bucs!

  22. The Ether Says:


    I trust Lovie’s judgement… And if he signs this ****, then I only want to see dude on the field on gamedays, then out of my sight… No interviews, just play, STFU then go straight home… and come back to work the next day.

    Again, if this happens, I trust Lovies judgement, and we have some born leaders in that locker room to keep this motherless f*** in check.

  23. Celly Says:

    1 year vet minimum, no guarantees.

    basically playing week to week (not the first time it’s been done)

  24. chef paul misses 1987 Says:


  25. phillip Says:

    Soooooooooo desperate! Cousins is trash and shouldn’t have EVER been signed… There was quality guards on the market during free agency and we didn’t pounce… Whole list of them here if Joe allows the website

  26. DallasBuc Says:

    Half of all the offseason moves were on the oline and this is where we are? Colossal eff up by do-no-wrong Lovie and his lapdog GM. Quantity of quality had most of you fooled.

  27. Rob Says:

    First, you have to think that playing for Lovie, this guy is going to be on an EXTREMELY short leash. It would also make sense that EDS, Collins and possibly Dotson likely were consulted. Players want to win and they don’t much care how they get there.

    That being said, if he can play at a level over Cousins (whom my second view of the Buffalo game had his play ascend from God awful (Jax) to very bad (Miami) to not very good at all (Buffalo), this will be a no risk trial. Even this moron has to realize this is his last shot. I believe he is more naturally a LG but has played RG.

    People, none of us are having ANY of these guys over for dinner any time soon. I’m concerned about production on Sunday.

  28. 77 bassman Says:

    Hope they sign him

  29. bucrightoff Says:

    Lovie and Licht can’t be patient. If they go 6-10 or 5-11 this year, next year becomes for their jobs and anything less than 8-8 will probably get them fired. Offensive line is going to be the difference between this team being 5-11 and over .500. Incognito is a dick but this isn’t the All-Saints league its the NFL, he can play better than any guard the Bucs have so he might be a dick, but he’s a useful dick.

  30. BucsfaninChina Says:


    …and being a Tampa Bay Bucs fan explodes into an ethical conflict.

  31. Jim Says:

    Go get em boys

  32. Aceofaerospace Says:

    Is he an upgrade to what we have? If so, I don’t care. Sign him. If he violates our team rules, discipline/cut/fine him. Almost every NFL player gets 2,3,4 chances but in this era of political correctness, he’s a monster. Is he an upgrade? Yes or no? I don’t know. I trust my head coach, who appears black, by the way, to determine if Ingognito’s past sins are to egregious to warrant another chance. If he dons a bucs uniform I will root for his success. If he doesn’t , then I will continue to not care about him.

  33. Lou. Says:

    I have thought for some time that Incognito is the target (let’s leave out the word “victim”) of a League blackball.

    The Miami locket room and coaching staff seemed to appreciate his ‘tude and contributions. SanFran now has the benefit of a locker room warrior (and tattle-tale cancer) in J. Martin. Actually, I wish both players the best. I just expect Incognito has more to offer in football terms.

    I trust L&L’s judgment to come up with the best line possible and to keep the players in line. I just am not impressed with the NFL’s excursion into political correctness and thought policing as a niceness patrol. If Lovie thinks Ritchie will help matters, no argument here.

  34. dmajik Says:

    In addition to the massive need @ LG (Richie’s best position), this all tells me Lovie and Licht feel confident in the team’s leadership. Or they’re just deeply concerned.

  35. 77 bassman Says:

    U guys need to stop you’re bitching, i think
    The guy is an upgrade! The o-line needs some
    Attitude. Go bucs!!!

  36. Phillip Says:

    He looks drunk or high as hell in that picture too lol

  37. Ur mom Says:

    This is a no-brainer. Locker room is in good shape, give the guy a chance. Could also be a leverage move in guard trade. I like it, sign him.

  38. D-Rome Says:

    I’m good with it. If the Bucs sign him give him an incentive-laden contract and see how it goes. Can the guy play on Sunday’s and help a team win? You bet, so I’m good with it.

  39. 1bucfan88 Says:

    Minimum contract, no guarantees, and it’ll be something I can live with. He’s gotta be better than Oneil Cousins.

  40. DallasBuc Says:

    Lou- “I trust L&L’s judgment to come up with the best line possible and to keep the players in line.” After blowing up the line was here and replacing it with worse players and you trust their judgement? Based on what?

  41. 77 bassman Says:

    You guys need to stop you’re crying.
    The o-line needs attitude

  42. BucsfaninChina Says:

    That pic is just amazingness, Joe.

  43. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    SIGN HIM ASAP!!! should have done it 2 months ago

  44. 77 bassman Says:

    @ lou im with u bro good post I’ve had it with
    Political correctness

  45. Skyline Crew Says:

    I see nothing wrong with this move. If Cog has learned his lesson then I see no problem with this move. We need the help. Besides, I don’t see McCoy letting him bully anybody around in his locker room.

  46. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    This is one nasty mean MF on & off the field……..our Oline could use some “nasty”….
    I’ve really got mixed emotions about this, but I think Lovie can make this work.
    At least he hasn’t killed any puppies!!!

  47. MegaDaveUK Says:

    I hope McCoy beats the shit outa him.

  48. BK Says:

    Why the “sleazy” adjective to describe Incognito? I think you are wrong as much as he was wrong with the Dolphins. It doesnt make it right but your choice of adjectives was poor and unfair.

    Actually, Joe was being tame. He is sleazy. –Joe

  49. Bill T Says:

    The worst thing about this is they cut Williams. And now they bring this a-hole in. Selling your soul to the devil, LOL. IF this was Dominick/Schiano, they would be crucified.

  50. Name Required Says:

    I’ll take it.

  51. Joseph Mamma Says:

    Let me just say that I like this move if they sign him for an upgrade. But to me this feels like a Bruce Allen/Jon Gruden move doesn’t it?

  52. RastaMon Says:

    Make him an Offensive Captain…..

  53. BK Says:

    Filtering our opinions…in Joe we trust.

    What filter? Don’t be an ass. –Joe

  54. mike n Says:

    can someone explain to me why we didnt bring larsen and davin to camp?

  55. Orca Says:

    If some of the other vets can keep this piece-of-shyte in line and he is an actual upgrade on the field, then OK… but it doesn’t sit well.

  56. Suzette LeBlanc Says:

    I would rather see us lose every game this season than be tainted by any form of association with this character. Some things—human respect and decency—should always trump winning on the field.

  57. BucsfaninChina Says:

    Mike Williams was not that good. And L&L brought in a more than adequate replacement.

    As a black head coach, I really respect Lovie for even being open to this idea.

  58. Brooks Says:

    Some guys are forever trash. He maybe one of them. Regardless we need help on the offensive line. If Lovie can keep him in line. Bring him in. I would rather have him than whatever the guys name is we just got from the chiefs. If he tears this locker room apart it’s all going to fall on Lovie and Licht. Slippery slope.

  59. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    77 Bassman you are right on…. he didnt beat his wife… didnt drive drunk and kill someone didnt pull a gun… didnt paralyze someone in a strip club… didnt kill his teammate didnt stab anyone nor get stabbed… no dogs killed…. this dude is a saint compared to all those characters playing today in the NFL

  60. Eric Says:

    This reminds me of an Anthony Munoz, Tim Brown,Joey Browner, DexterManley type move.


    And if they were gonna do it why not before camp started so he might have a prayer of helping.

    Dont see how he could be ready physically let alone hes a mental case.

  61. chef paul misses 1987 Says:

    That dummy down in Miami didn’t have what it takes to control a locker room. Lovie does.

  62. Cobraboy Says:

    I thought Martin was a thin-skinned oversensitive manchild in the situation, and Incognito got the Politically Correct shaft. Seriously, Martin had to seek “counseling” and left the team. Really? I have been around far, far worse in pro & college lockerrooms.

    Incognito is no saint, be he’s no as bad as the PC crowd tried to paint him to be.

    A low-risk/high reward signing if it happens. He brings some attitude to a line sorely in need of it.

    If he’s signed, I’m predicting he and Rishaw Johnson are the starting OG’s against the Kitties. That would solidify the OL.

  63. Jeagan1999 Says:

    This tells us a lot about the state of the the O-line less than 2 weeks before the beginning of the season. Personally, I’m all for it….why not bring in someone who might help turn an area of weakness into a strength…or at least an area that can hold it’s own. I don’t condone Incognito’s actions in Miami, but let’s also keep it in context…he didn’t kill anyone, he didn’t sexually assault anyone, he didn’t strike a woman and he didn’t force animals to kill one another for his own enjoyment or betting purposes! I think there are probably a lot of worse guys playing pro ball now then Richie Incognito. Hopefully he knows that this might be his last chance at redemption and he will make the most of it!

  64. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    I think my favorite incognito moment was when he trying to explain he was an “Honorary Black Guy” meaning the n-word. Hope he does not try to tell lovie this!

  65. 77 bassman Says:

    @ dusthy if we keep it up political correctness
    Will kill us all, the guy can play he has attitude
    I have zero problem with signing him. Good post
    By the way bro

  66. OB Says:


    Some thoughts, what is your take on Richie and Johnson as guards? With a Black Head Coach, how racist could Richie be?

    He probably likes the money he is not getting right now and I am sure that his contract would have a hugh penalty if he does anything of that nature.

  67. Aaron Downing Says:

    Gotta disagree with most of you. Incognito is just a guy that made some little girl get butt hurt because he couldn’t take a joke. I joke with my friends all the time the same way he did with Martin. I have black friends that I can joke with about them being black, doesn’t make me a racist nor do they take it as racism. Incognito learned a lesson that you have to be careful who you joke with, but I still don’t think he did anything that warrants being banished from the NFL. Think this would be a great pickup for the Bucs.

  68. The Ether Says:

    “Why the “sleazy” adjective to describe Incognito?”

    What are you kidding??? The dude stuck his golf club up this girls skirt while she was working at a golf course…

    Whatever though, In Lovie I trust I guess…

  69. The Fuzzy Red Coin Purse Says:

    What have I been saying all this time? If he can play we should give him a shot since we have really no one else to look for. He’s a pro-bowl caliber o-linemen who wants to play (and will cheap). Now I can say I told you so. Lovie and the rest of the guys can keep him in line and if he does get to be out of hand we can cut him.

  70. Robert9 Says:

    Yessss this is awesome

  71. Joe Says:


    This is difficult for to digest right. After he is signed — if he is signed — we can go from there.

  72. Johnny Dejay Says:

    I’d rather the Bucs take their chances (and lumps) without him.

  73. Dewey Selmon Says:

    I think Mike Williams was mostly his massive contract for a #2 wr. I don’t see Richie coming in here and being an ahole. I’m all for it and wish it was done weeks ago for conditioning purposes.

  74. dusthy rhothdes Says:

    Someone explain what all he did wrong then get shut down by the PC media… didnt hear ochocinco say he was a jagoff didnt hear pouncey say that… heard jonathan martins lawyer parents and media state that neither of which hung out with him nor played with or had their backs covered by him. PC in the NFL is very hypocritical these days

  75. Rob Says:

    Suzette Leblanc said:

    “I would rather see us lose every game this season than be tainted by any form of association with this character. Some things—human respect and decency—should always trump winning on the field.”

    Suzette, there’s about 100 different ways I can go with this comment, but I’m going to be a gentleman. The Lombardi Trophy isn’t awarded for the nicest group of guys. If you want to see a collection of good people, go to church on Sunday. If you want to see football players, go to the stadium.

  76. louden Says:

    Hope he is in shape and why the hell are they (bucs) acting at such a slow pace?
    The trade for guard (while i think they should have kept Kelcie as the Safety depth isn´t all that deep: Wright was an Piscitelli-like player in the past; Tandy´s most if not all, realy, INTs came when the QB threw very very bad, almost right at him.. after that who is considered good depth??
    McCray on the ohter hand realy was good Depth..)

    If they sign Incog and he is not in shape, why wouldn´t they contacted him earlier to make sure he gets some more reps and physicall better?

    Besides: Could we get 2 more good O-liner?

    He will be on short leash anyway and they dont have to give him much at first – why not trying him out???

  77. andres Says:

    Would be a great move. He’d bring some nastiness/attitude AND no way he controls that locker room. 93 would set him straight if stepped out of line. Come on Lovie make it happen!

  78. Phillip Says:

    Seriously if you don’t know what all Richie has done just use this thing called GOOGLE and type his name in… It’s not just the bullying he was doing in Miami…

  79. Buccfan37 Says:

    The only opinion I have of this guy is that I have no opinion of this guy.

  80. The_Buc_Realist Says:

    I recommend going to wiki for richie incognito. they have a year by year breakdown of his ” on the field” transgressions. I am sure there was more off the field though.

  81. TheShaz Says:

    This is America

    Everyone deserves a 2nd chance…….well in this guys case a 3rd, 4th maybe 5th.

    Keep him on a short leash. Remember he was not in any camp this summer and will not be in game shape.

    I trust the leaders on this team to keep him from being any sort of locker cancer.

  82. BuccNBeers Says:

    Incognito may be the epitome of an immature meathead but he comes with solid veteran experience that we need on the line. Even after the ignorant comments Incognito made became public, the Dolphins O-line had nothing but positive things to about him and his locker room presence. Some members of the O-line even went to his defense during the media crucifixion that eventually forced is departure. We have coaches and leaders on this team with character and values that will keep his shenanigans in check. I’m all for second chanced and if it doesn’t work out…give him DAS BOOT.

  83. jjtixs Says:

    martin was a pus….its a good move.just think a banner in the SOUTH ENDZONE THAT READS INCOGNITOS HOOKERS!!!!!!!!!! LMAO

  84. Patrick in VA Says:

    Fine with it. He’s talented and we need talent. If he’s a personality issue then let them deal with it in house if they’re willing to take it on. Bring him in, keep him in line, get some wins and everyone loves the move.

  85. Mumbles Says:

    Sign’im up! Then put a muzzle and choke chain on’im!

  86. Bucs2044 Says:

    If this guy makes us better – SIGN HIM. We need to win. We haven’t won a playoff game in over a decade. I don’t care if he’s no choir boy.

  87. Uncle Albert Says:

    Anybody who has an issue with bringing Incognito in because of moral reasons is as big of a p*ssy as Jonathan Martin. If the guy can still block, I say bring him in. Winning trumps morals in the NFL.

  88. FrankPillow Says:

    This all makes me long for the days of ‘quality’ guard play by Jorge Diaz. It’s sad to think that the best OG of the past 20 years here was a 5 game stretch by Nicks, a washed-up Randal McDaniel…or maybe Frank Middleton’s heyday. Let’s not fool ourselves into thinking that Davin was anything other than average-ever. Zutttah either. Maybe its sadder that we’re in such a bad spot that both seem better than what we have.

  89. St. Louis Bucs Fan Says:

    I’m of the mindset that are the Bucs gonna draft a player of Boones quality in the 2nd round? Prolly not so make the trade for Boone and give Lumpy a shot at redemption and win now. If it pans out then the 2nd rounder would be in the high 20’s hopefully. If not then it’s no worse than the Carl Nicks situation. BUC IT IM OUT!!!!!!!

  90. jjtixs Says:

    martin was a pussy….its a good move.just think a banner in the SOUTH ENDZONE THAT READS INCOGNITOS HOOKERS!!!!!!!!!! LMAO

  91. JMN Says:

    Well would of been a better idea to draft an O lineman in the third round of the draft rather than draft a RB which the Bucs already had 3 capable ones. Bad move.

  92. stratobuc Says:

    Bring him in! I trust our coaches and vets to handle the locker room. He’s part of the solution to a huge O-line problem.

  93. AF_Buc Says:

    Before you all get crazy comparing this possible signing and the Williams release, keep in mind that Williams had just been signed to an extension that compensated him FAR more than his production on the field was worth. I’m fairly certain Williams was cut more for the cap implications as opposed to having a mattress in his yard.

  94. Phillip Says:

    But people were complaining about Mike Williams and saying get him out of here because of his speeding tickets, house parties, and getting stabbed by his brother.. Makes sense…

    Oh wait he was making too much money as a #2 WR… Hmmm plenty of number 2 WR are going to be making as much as him soon when they get off their rookie contract

    It shouldn’t have ever gotten to this point if they would have addressed the O-line fully before.. I posted a link earlier of the available guards that we could have signed…

  95. biff barker Says:

    A good signing on a very short leash. The Bucs gave ever single OL on the roster ample time to win the job. The winner still isn’t good enough.

    I doubt Incognito is in any kind of football shape though

  96. Harry Says:

    @The_Buc_Realist Says:
    Maybe the Bucs can promote a “incognito car crush gameday!” The bucs setup some old cars and fans can whack on them with a hammer or bat!!

    I LOVE IT!!!

    I would love for them to sign Richie. He would be a HUGE addition to the Oline.

  97. Patrick in VA Says:

    @biff – I’m sure that incognito is aware of the level of guard play on the league and I’d say that his phone ringing isn’t a surprise. I’d be shocked if he was out of shape

  98. joe$ucfan Says:

    Joe, you think maybe they talked to some of the leaders on the team and got an ok to bring him in for a look see.

  99. Brooks Says:

    Who cares if he was bullying. What are we in elementary school at recess. That Martin guy is a wuss. Sack up. Be a grown man. Take it with a grain of salt and go home. If he’s that bad then why are you talking back and forth by text. Maybe Richie was wrong. Actually I’m sure he was out of line. I read the pages of texts. But come on. Be a man. If you are that soft that someone can push you around you have the wrong job.

  100. PanhandleBucGuy28 Says:

    I think this is a good move. First off the kind of stuff that went on in the Dolphins Locker Room happens in every locker room and the so called “Bully” scandal happened because they had a guy that was to soft and obviously was a huge Puss, I mean if im a 6’5 350 lb OT in the NFL no one would Bully me so blame Martin as much as Richie. Second the Dolphins had ZERO leadership in that locker room we have OBVIOUS leadership in our locker room so I’m not worried about that. And 3rd the guy can play!!! He is not been getting picked up because of PR not his football ability god forbid a “Bully” is on the team. We will accept gay guys but not bullies ill take anyone that can help our football team win and he is NO DOUBT a upgrade for us at guard.

  101. geno714 Says:

    Every team in the NFL has bad people on their rosters. Trust your leaders to keep him in line and keep him on a short leash. They need to make this move.

  102. Soggybottom Says:

    People can change, I say give him a second chance after all look at vick and all the other beaters etc that still play..

  103. Capt.Tim,back from Davie Jones's Locker Says:

    Yay! I’ve been saying that for months. The guy was an all pro in 2012. I would rather have Incognito, than a pus like Martin- who sent all his text to his Mommy the lawyer.
    Incognito gives us a Probowl Guard.think we are set at Rt., center, and Guard.
    Think equally bad boy Johnsonans the other guard spot for years.

    Now- can Collins do the job?

  104. Capt.Tim,back from Davie Jones's Locker Says:

    “Johnson mans”
    Damn phone

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  106. Bucs Fan #237 Says:

    True. If Vick, Ray Lewis and Ray Rice can be forgiven… then you know. Heck even that WR from the Eagles who made those comments was forgiven.

  107. You are not Joe Says:

    [Not cool to use Joe’s name. Try a different handle. — Joe]

  108. Justin Says:

    Far worse people have been given second chances in the NFL, this doesn’t come as much of a shock to me..Also I’m going to go out on a limb and say there are a lot of other players in the NFL who say racist things occasionally behind closed doors that aren’t chastised, let’s call a spade a spade here. IF (big if) he comes to the Bay and is a model citizen, this would be an ideal signing for a weak O- line. This signing literally can’t make them any worse. Instead it could help bolster the line with another veteran beside Dietrich-Smith.

  109. hecticbuc Says:

    I am loving this I wish they would have made this move 2 weeks ago we will finally be able to give Doug a real hole to run through plus with lane our new fullback our running game is going to be much more better than its been in a while I totally agree Vick got another chance why not this guy especially if it can help our team Joe you are going to regret what you said about this guy when Martin is averaging 150 plus yards a game and two 2 touchdowns you will be happy with this move I know he is not signed yet but if L@L let this guy leave without signing would be a Dumb move

  110. teacherman777 Says:


    now cut oneil cousins or jamon meredith

  111. Ernest T. Bass Says:

    Sign Incog, he’s Nasty!! We need Nasty!!

  112. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    The_Buc_Realist Says
    What this tells us is that the current O-line is still very shaky. After 3 pre-season games they now know that old man McCown panics when there is pressure.”

    Way to state the obvious, lol. Old man McCown at least makes plays, unlike young man Glennon.

  113. IncognitoGettinShafted Says:

    I’m not sure it makes sense for Incognito to come back. Why at 31 would you sign a lowball contract, walk into a locker room with everyone looking shifty at you, and ruin what is left of your knees and health? It’s not like at his age, he’s going to negotiate something better ‘next year’. And what incentives can you put in a Guard’s contract that he has full control over? Pancakes? That’s about it. THIS contract is probably is only and last shot. If the contract is lowball, I’d walk away if I were him. Walk away with my health. Find a place to coach or something. BUT – if he does decide to play, he’s a solid player and would add some beef to my favorite team.