Bucs At Rams, Open Thread

December 22nd, 2013

Good morning  from the Ed Jones Dome (where Joe is at) in frosty St. Louis where the Bucs will face the surging Rams.

Joe just cannot get a feel for this game. On one hand, the Rams throw Kellen Clemens at quarterback. Can you say “Eric Zeier?” On the other hand, Zac Stacy is running the ball very well and the Bucs, of late, have been a bit soft on the run.

The Rams will be without the services of speedy Tavon Austin, as he is inactive, which means the Rams have virtually no passing game to speak of.

The thing that scares Joe is the physical front line of the Rams defensively, which the Bucs have proven gives them fits. If Bucs quarterback Mike Glennon can just get a little bit of time, there should be open receivers because the Rams stink in the secondary, a combination of players not playing well and injuries.

As always, feel free to share illegal video streaming URLs among yourselves but do not post them here.

Enjoy the game and go Bucs!

276 Responses to “Bucs At Rams, Open Thread”

  1. BucPower Says:

    I need somewhere to watch the game

  2. Buc1987 Says:

    Keep Glennon. Just say no to Johnny. Draft Winston in 2015. Trade up, trade away, trade the farm if you have to in 2015. Just get Winston in 2015.

    Sall I’m sayin’

  3. buc4lyfe Says:

    Yea well don’t put expectations on a Schiano coached team because we had a better team last year and got creamed….if wasn’t for that thing the of nfl teams call coaching we would be playing for playoff position

  4. BucsFan68 Says:

    Run Run pass; this offense is too predictable, putting the QB in 3rd and long.

  5. Awaiting moderation Says:

    There gonna have to complete some passes if they expect to run it

  6. buc4lyfe Says:

    Lol pathetic…3rd & 10 for negative yards all to familiar.

  7. PRBucFan Says:

    Surprise suprise same garbage losing play calling.

    At this point I’m fine with everyone getting canned.

    There is no excuse to continue allowing that crap.

  8. deathaneers Says:

    I wonder what the record is for the most 3 and outs on offense. Maybe the Bucs can go for that today.
    The defense needs to win the game.
    Go bucs

  9. Awaiting moderation Says:

    @ buc1987 news flash Winston’s probably Mlb

  10. Awaiting moderation Says:

    Get the defense out there so we can maybe score

  11. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Here come another run up the middle.

  12. SAMCRO Says:

    run, run, 3rd and 10

  13. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    Joe loves him some cheerleaders. The problem is not the playcalling. Everybody has the same plays, just about. The problem with the offense is the five guys in front of Glennon. This is the worst offensive line in football. Our first pick should be an OT, then a DE.

  14. Danny Says:

    Why do the Rams get to wear their throwback uniforms if the NFL banned them?

  15. DallasBuc Says:

    It is now plainly obvious why we don’t run screens…we are terrible at it!

  16. SAMCRO Says:

    We need to set up the run this game with the pass

  17. PRBucFan Says:

    This online can’t block worth crap either lately.

    There’s going to be some changes this offseason to that line.

    Amazing D on that pass

  18. PRBucFan Says:


  19. PRBucFan Says:


    They actually picked up that blitz lol

  20. DallasBuc Says:

    Nice drive!

  21. SAMCRO Says:

    case in point WTG Rainey

  22. PRBucFan Says:


    See what happens when they don’t run run pass every damn time?

    Sheesh that’s annoying.

  23. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    Impressive drive.

  24. deathaneers Says:

    @ Danny, As long as you wear the same helmet all year you can wear your throwback uniforms. I think

  25. mark2001 Says:

    So a bunch of casual fans mess their pants because we opened up with a couple of runs…unbelievable. Let the game play out.

  26. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    I want to see the white and blue throwbacks on the Rams.

  27. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    When did the Rams add the yellow anyway? They’ve had that since I was a kid in the 70s.

  28. Couch Fan Says:

    Another ridiculously stupid penalty that shouldnt of been called, this is getting horrible, cant even breath on a dam QB anymore

  29. PRBucFan Says:

    They seriously called that?


    This league is a damn joke

  30. Jo_mama Says:

    I would only run from the two yard line or less. Pass the rest of the time.

  31. SAMCRO Says:

    stack the box force them to throw

  32. Buc Neckid Says:

    Caught licking their chops

  33. PRBucFan Says:

    Mark it’s clear you haven’t watched the Bucs play calling.

    That is all the damn time.

    Casual my ass.

  34. Buc Neckid Says:

    Z.Stacy > M.Tolbert
    = long day for the Bucs Defense
    If the Rams are smart

  35. mark2001 Says:

    PRBuc…You think Glennon is Rodgers? We have to keep them honest with the run, or he will be destroyed…mentally and physically. Haven’t you seen that happen to enough Rookie QB? I’ve seen it happen to dozens. If he was a mobile QB, it might be a somewhat different story.

  36. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Jo_mama Says
    “I would only run from the two yard line or less. Pass the rest of the time.”

    I’m all for that, because that would show everyone just how bad Glennon really is. Only 2-3 good passes so far.

  37. Couch Fan Says:

    I’m all for that, because that would show everyone just how bad Glennon really is. Only 2-3 good passes so far.


    And we know just how badly you want to be right.

  38. PRBucFan Says:

    It’s never different.

    Either the O is scoring and the D does nothing or the D is stout and the O does nothing.


    LoL smh

  39. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Wow…talk about a recipe for disaster. Defense can’t get off the field. Still waiting for the immortal Kellen Clemons to rear his ugly head.

  40. PRBucFan Says:

    That has absolutely nothing to do with anything Mark

    Keeping them honest and being as predictable as any team in the NFL because they do the same thing 100% of the time are two completely different things.

    The stats don’t lie.

    Worst third down conversion percentage in the NFL because all defense know exactly what we are going to do lol.

    Run Run Pass

  41. PRBucFan Says:

    People want to bitch about Glennon.

    Please offer a solution.

    Another rookie?

  42. Gt40bear Says:

    Kid n play catch!

  43. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Couch Fan Says
    “And we know just how badly you want to be right.”

    Clearly you do not, because nothing would make me happier than for him to prove me wrong.

    But you and I BOTH know he won’t.

  44. Couch Fan Says:

    Lol i just love how every trick play works against us but we can’t pull out a trick play to save our life.

  45. BucsFan68 Says:

    Bad turnover by Rainey

  46. Snook Says:

    Our offense eats a dick.

  47. PRBucFan Says:


    Lavonte is a true leader.

    Went straight to Rainey to encourage him.

  48. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    PRBucFan Says
    “Please offer a solution.

    Another rookie?”

    To compete for the starting role? Yes! Or a well established veteran.

  49. deathaneers Says:

    WOW! WTF! The Rams play like they want to win,,,,Not the Bucs!

  50. mark2001 Says:

    PR Bucs…..so you think the number of sacks and punishment Glennon would take when you give up the run would have nothing to do with his development? Wrong. Challenge this O line to do their job, and if they don’t replace them, starting with the high priced underachievers.

  51. Couch Fan Says:

    Clearly you do not, because nothing would make me happier than for him to prove me wrong.

    But you and I BOTH know he won’t.


    Really? I would think having a lead would make a fan happy. But not you! lets continually bash the ROOKIE. But yet for some reason your head was stuck up Freeman’s crack the entire off season… the rookie can’t even get a year? Lol.

    It is clear what your agenda is.

  52. Gt40bear Says:

    Gawd they SUCK! That td is on the exceedingly crappy Bucs O-line. Rainey is continually getting hit three yards deep in the backfield. #linecan’tblock.

  53. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    GAME….SET…and Match. Yet another containment issue.

  54. Drew Says:

    Want the Bucs to lose to improve their draft position.

  55. DallasBuc Says:

    Hey everyone, keep in mind that the Rainey fumble was completely random…or so we are told by that wise old local sports radio “as far as that’s concerned” host. The rams effort on that turnover had nothing to do with it!!

  56. Gt40bear Says:

    Bucs D has not stopped a quick turn around all season. That must be put on Sheridan! #firesheridan!

  57. deathaneers Says:

    Its Ok, The coaching staff will make in-game adjustments.

  58. PRBucFan Says:

    You sound like an idiot

    Your saying you want our offense to get off the field and go 3 and out because you don’t want to risk Glennon.

    Ahahahaha wow, that is sad as hell.

    It’s his job… that safe, scared, mentality is exactly whats got us here.

    Thanks for proving my point.

    I’m done discussing this with you lol

  59. Laughing Stock II Says:

    Did we just called a time out?

  60. buc4lyfe Says:

    There guys get paid too once again were playing a good front line. The only way we can move the ball is through the air but this coach is such an idiot he wants to go against the grain and it should have cost him his job half way thru the season, double reverse only works against over aggressive defenses

  61. PRBucFan Says:

    He’s doing so much more the good ole Free Free could have done lol.

    We’d be going for a winless season with him here smh

  62. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Couch Fan, take the paper bag off your head and the plugs out of your ears.

    You can accuse me of having an agenda all you want. You are right, I do.

    My agenda is to see the Bucs being capable of making the playoffs in a division that is shaping up to have THREE elite QBs within the next couple years.

    A QB who cannot complete more than half his passes in the first half is not good enough to get us to the playoffs.

    And you accusing me of having an agenda is the pot calling the kettle black, isn’t it?

  63. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    6 of 12 sucks. PLain and simple.

  64. Gt40bear Says:

    Yet another scrub qb this Sheridan coached defense is making look like a legend! 6-6 so far. Oh for the days of making scrubs look like, you know…scrubs!

  65. deathaneers Says:

    I cant even get pissed anymore. All im doing is laughing at this team. this is so bad I cant figure out who to blame

  66. mark2001 Says:

    PR Buc…you sound like a newcomer to the game. Watch and learn.

  67. PRBucFan Says:

    It’s a better completion percentage than Free would have had lol

    What do you propose?

    You want Free Free back?

    Let’s put in our 3rd stringer lol

  68. Couch Fan Says:

    Dude had LVD by the helmet and no call? lol

  69. mark2001 Says:

    Yeah…you want to place the game exclusively in the hands of a rookie QB and one receiver, because that is all we have right now. Forget the run. Sounds like you know a lot about the game.

  70. PRBucFan Says:

    Exactly what I thought Mark, exactly what I thought.

    We’ve been watching and all we see is how not to play offense.

    But again thanks for proving my point.

  71. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Don’t be the idiot you accuse others of being.

    I already told you what I suggest when you asked once.

  72. Gt40bear Says:

    Nice coverage rook!

  73. Drew Says:

    Ha! Ha! Laughing in the face of adversity!

  74. Gt40bear Says:

    The GREAT 50 and yet another blown contain by a Buc DE.

  75. Couch Fan Says:

    Bonzai your excuses are laughable. Your making yourself look silly. Just like you did this off-season by continually defending freeman as if your life depended on it.

    Freeman was a horrible QB. It was painfully obvious to see. 5th year and he was playing like a rookie. But yet that guy you defended.

    If Glennon was 5th year player then I would agree with you. But he’s a rookie. Who you blast every single chance you get no matter what he does.

    Yes it is clear you have an agenda to hate on Glennon no matter what. You can try to spin it all you want.

    My Agenda? to support my team plan and simple.

    Yours is clearly not so simple.

  76. Drew Says:

    One more game and the season is over.

  77. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Bucs recovered

  78. Couch Fan Says:


  79. buc4lyfe Says:


    You idiot your still taking shots at Freeman? News flash buddy in this offense last year Freeman’s first 4 games sucked to but he ended up leading the 7th rank offense. WE’RE DEAD LAST ON OFFENSE and we only lead the league in 3 and outs, blame glennon or Schiano i don’t care but Freeman doesn’t play for us and never led an offense this pathetic so focus on the players under contract. Even with all his inaccuracy and erratic throws he and Greg Olsen were a better combination than what is on the field

    P.S headed for another blowout

  80. Gt40bear Says:

    Christmas comes early.

  81. DallasBuc Says:

    Another random occurrence!

  82. PRBucFan Says:

    Cowardly, conservative, predictable, play calling

    That is most definitely the answer

    Let’s run it for no gains on 1st and 2nd because we chose to start a rookie and now we want to use that as an excuse not to pass it?

    Genius my friend, genius.

    If you don’t want the game in a rooks hands than don’t start a rook at QB lol

  83. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Here comes a three and out.

  84. PRBucFan Says:

    Hey Free4lyfe

    No one is talking to you

    We all know your still butthurt over you boi warming that bench in Minnie

    He sucks, and is absolutely worse than Glennon

    Get over it

  85. Alexstotle Says:

    im looking for good D play! bring back BENNETT!!! I like Glennon but he is not showing that IT factor that shows he can lead a team to the Superbowl, let alone Playoffs. New O Line too!

  86. PRBucFan Says:

    You haven’t told me Jack Shiite Bonzai

    Stop bitching and show us the solution

  87. Gt40bear Says:

    Been blasting d-line but credit where it’s due. All 4 around Clemons on the fumble. BTW great blocking AGAIN by Bucs O-line!

  88. buc4lyfe Says:

    Man he sure can pack it in when the rush is coming like balls after a dip in the pool in the wintertime

  89. DallasBuc Says:

    Bring back Bennett? Do you really think he would leave Seattle and come here?

  90. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    I guess a three and out would have been nice…LMAO

  91. Killian Says:

    Why don’t we spread it out and then run? This isn’t working.

  92. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Couch Fan

    First, when I was defending Freeman it was because he was getting the blame for everything that went wrong. Guess what? He’s gone and a lot of those things are still going wrong.

    I “blast” Glennon because silly little girls are giving him props that he has yet to earn. In face, his play thus far has done nothing BUT earn “blasting”.

    Until he shows he is good, we need fair competition at the position. THAT’s why I want another QB brought in.

    I’ve said it clearly….we should not put all our eggs in one basket. Glennon did not earn his starting role at all. Freeman lost his and Glennon got it by default.

    And, if you had ANY eyes to see with, you would see that Glennon is being outplayed by a scrub QB who has never been any good.

  93. mark2001 Says:

    Nice sack…let’s just throw the ball and stop trying to run the ball, and we can see how many hits it takes to put Glennon on the IR for the rest of the year. Hearing footsteps much, Mike?

  94. Gt40bear Says:

    Would really like to see if Glennon can develop, but with this O-line, we are gonna need a running qb.

  95. Mach Says:

    Someone tell schiano that we cannot run rainey up the middle. We havent been able to do it the last few games so why keeep doing something that aint working? Stop been so STUBBORN!!!

  96. PRBucFan Says:

    False you bitch about Glennon because your still bitter about Freeman lol

    Denial is an ugly thing

    Bwahaaa smh

    These Freemanites are funny as hell

  97. DallasBuc Says:

    Yet another random event! Lightning striking out there

  98. Gt40bear Says:

    Nice play by Watson!

  99. mark2001 Says:

    Like I’ve said in other threads on this board Bonzai…we need to draft a QB. We can’t wait another year or two to find out if Glennon has the ability to ever be more than a backup. I’m just not sure if a first round talent will be there when we make our pick.

  100. PRBucFan Says:


    LoL fun times

    Going to watch the game now ahahaha

    Bitter is not better 😉

  101. lurker Says:

    these comments are more entertaining than the game. after reading these delusional comments I see that our mental health system is indeed in dire straights…lol

  102. buc4lyfe Says:

    Prbucfan lol that’s a great point thanks for calling yourself stupid, Freeman plays for the Vikings and guess what WE still suck were 4-10 and your making useless comments.

  103. Gt40bear Says:

    WTH, did the refs soak the balls in grease? Nobody seems to be able to hold onto it!

  104. Couch Fan Says:

    Blah blah blah. all I hear is someone calling names while bitching himself. Lol, it’s ok hate on man. Thats your right. No matter how stupid and silly it is. Im gonna enjoy the game while you cry like a silly girl for us.

  105. DallasBuc Says:

    How does one bitch themself?

  106. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Apparently, reading ability is overrated in this thread. Exactly where are the comments in this thread stating we should have kept Freeman?

    And Couch…you say I’m “blasting” Glennon? That you are for the team?

    Funny, you weren’t when Freeman was QB. You blasted him constantly, didn’t you?

    PRBucFan, I said, and I’ll say it again, we need to either draft a QB to compete or bring in an established veteran QB. Fair competition.

    As for fixing what is going on now, why would Sullivan pass more when Glennon completes 9 of 15 passes or less? Or when he will turn the ball over? (you know he will if he passes more than he is already)

    I already said they should pass more though…if for no other reason then to show us how good or bad Glennon really is.

    He’s got 6 guys blocking on the front line and he still gets sacked.

  107. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Sacked again. 7 guys blocking that time.

  108. mark2001 Says:

    A talented speed receiver to go with Jackson and Williams….then we will see what we really have. There are a few glimpses of some positive potential. Would like to see us in a situation like the Packers where they always have a couple excellent ones, at least a good one, and a couple of young guys in development.

  109. Drew Says:

    WTF!!! O-line sucks!!!

  110. buc89 Says:

    Glennon gets sacked so much

  111. Couch Fan Says:

    Freeman was a 5th year player. He deserved every bit of criticism he got because he sucked every single year he was here.

    Glennon is a rookie. I know you can’t understand the difference because of your hate so I’ll leave it at that.

    We really do have the most ignorant fan base.

  112. deathaneers Says:

    It sounds like they were just be happy with a field goal.

  113. Gt40bear Says:

    Damned offensive line! “What do you think about the execution of your offensive line…I’m all for it!”

  114. Drew Says:

    Coordinators also suck!!!



  116. Cmurda Says:

    Hi Guys. Johnny Football. That is all.

  117. Drew Says:

    Half time adjustments suck!!!

  118. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    Penn is good for at least one or two sacks a game. Worst starting LT in the NFL. Rookie QB and bad Oline is a recipe for bad offense. Fix the OL and Glennon will look better. Is he great? Not yet but he is far away from being our biggest problem.

  119. chickster Says:

    2 back up qb going at it this is the dark years and its just the start

  120. Drew Says:

    Wait a minute! Hold the press! The entire organization from top to bottom sucks!

  121. Jack Burton Mercer Says:

    Rams moved a RG to LT and is way better than Penn.

  122. Mike J Says:

    O-line is on vacation & steals paychecks, looks like from afar.

  123. Mord Says:

    Those last two sacks are evidence of why Napoleon Dynamite is ‘good’, but not likely to enjoy a career as a starter in the modern NFL

  124. buc89 Says:

    Maybe Glennon can be Josh McCown in 15 years. Please get a new quarterback

  125. Architek Says:

    OLine is a wasted investment! Playcalling is garbage and the only thing legit about the Bus is the defense.

  126. BucsFan68 Says:

    BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    December 22nd, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    Apparently, reading ability is overrated in this thread. Exactly where are the comments in this thread stating we should have kept Freeman?

    And Couch…you say I’m “blasting” Glennon? That you are for the team?

    Funny, you weren’t when Freeman was QB. You blasted him constantly, didn’t you?
    So true; folks that criticized Freeman when he was here and since he’s been gone have to respect the fact that there will be fans who aren’t sold on Glennon and it doesn’t make them any less of a fan

  127. deathaneers Says:

    It doesnt matter who the Qb is if the play calling is this bad.The bad O-Line play doesnt make it any easier

  128. mark2001 Says:

    Haven’t played very well…still a one score game. Probably about as good as we could have hoped for, from the way we have played so far. Shiano…lean on the O-line…time for them to step up…if they can.

  129. chickster Says:

    Glennon is a back up and you will find this out next year jackassssss

  130. Laughing Stock II Says:

    Just like the Detroit game. WE are given opportunities and we allow a close game. Schiano is sooooo FIRED!

  131. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Couch, sorry to break it to you but I don’t “hate” Glennon.

    Freeman had no good years here? Right. He went 10-6 one year, remember? He also broke records in passing his second to last year here. Was he good enough?

    Nope. And that is why he is gone. But he wasn’t the only one to blame. This teams negated most of his passes this year with penalties.

    Tell me…what if we do not bring in another QB to compete in the off season and Glennon pulls a Sean King? What if he REALLY sucks in his second year?

    All I’ve asked is that we double our chances of finding a very good QB by drafting one.

    I know the difference between a rookie and a 5th year player. Do you?

    The difference is that with a rookie you don’t really know what you have, even if he plays well. Because rookies tend to do okay their first year and then suck after that.

    To me, it is ignorant if a team blindly trusts a rookie to become elite. It is intelligent to bring in legit competition so you get the best of both.

    I’m sorry you fail to grasp common sense. I guess you are right. We really do have the most ignorant fan base.

  132. FLBoyInDallas Says:

    We need a new LT in the draft. Penn is going downhill fast. Might as well grab a G while we’re at it. Poor Glennon has no chance out there with these guys acting like bullfighters and letting D-linemen fly right past.

  133. Mach Says:

    Rex Ryan told his team that he will be fired… FIRE SCHIANO AND. HIRE REX RYAN… Imagine what he would do with this tampa defence…

  134. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    mark2001 Says
    “Schiano…lean on the O-line…time for them to step up…”

    Except that they (Bucs) had 6 and 7 guys on the line to block. Not a lot left to do. The Rams defense is just that good.

  135. Cmurda Says:

    What some of you are neglecting to see is that on obvious passing downs, the Rams are bringing blitzes. More than the O Line can block. This is why Im not on the Glennon bandwagon. he has to see this and make the quick pass and stand tall against pressure. Its common sense and yet Glennon immediately cowers at pressure. Its a QB’s job to see what the defense is doing. I want Johnny Football or at the very least a stud QB prospect.

  136. Laughing Stock II Says:

    Keep your cool fans. You know what’s coming.

    1) Rams will make adjustments
    2) We will take a short nap and go to the bathroom to ease our bladder
    3) Rams adjustments will work like a charm and points are scored
    4) We will continue to run the ball up the middle
    5) D-Line will start running STUNTS

    Monday conference

    “We need to keep trying harder,” said Schiano

  137. Gt40bear Says:

    Time to blow the O-line up. Unless the line is better, Glennon is gonna go all Rob Johnson on us and get that deer in the headlights thing going! Some things he needs to see better and sooner, but with him worrying about getting blasted and no running game, he doesn’t have much of a chance to develop.

  138. deathaneers Says:

    Who can they get as head coach next year. I don’t think their is anybody worth a dam.Who would you want?
    I say keep Schiano and bring in a real offensive coordinator.
    Just my opinion.

  139. DallasBuc Says:

    Bradley McDougal??

  140. mark2001 Says:

    death…the only way we would bring in an experienced Coach is if they were able to have a say in the GM position as well. No one will step in here with Dom still “buying the groceries” and risk destroying their reputation. Of course, I’m sure some wouldn’t care who we brought in…maybe play the college HC roulette again? No thanks.

  141. BucsFan68 Says:

    Couch Fan Says:

    December 22nd, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    Freeman was a 5th year player. He deserved every bit of criticism he got because he sucked every single year he was here.

    Glennon is a rookie. I know you can’t understand the difference because of your hate so I’ll leave it at that.

    We really do have the most ignorant fan base.
    No he didn’t suck every year he was here and he didn’t play a full 5 seasons (80 games); Freeman played 9 games in 2009 and 3 games in 2013. During his time here, the Bucs never had a complete team; they didn’t invest in a FA on the offensive end until 2012. The defense from 09-12 was not stellar. There were games where the Bucs had the lead when Freeman walked off the field for the final time only to lose due to the defense not holding up their end and bad coaching decisions. Josh only played 3 games for the Bucs in 2013; since his departure, the Bucs have only managed to win 4 out of 11 games. Those losses aren’t on Freeman.

  142. buc89 Says:

    what a great playcall

  143. Gt40bear Says:

    Greg Hardy is eating Drew Bree’s alive…please sign him if he’s available! Hello Rockstar!

  144. Cmurda Says:

    WTF was that. 3rd and 1. Are our coaches mentally disabled? You dont put it in Glennon’s hands.

  145. lurker Says:

    wtf was that glennon

  146. Gt40bear Says:

    Dang, this is an ugly game.

  147. Schiano Happens Says:

    Hey, let’s run up the middle again. Seems to be working.

  148. buc89 Says:

    Glennon staring down jackson all day

  149. mark2001 Says:

    GT……look at these offenses….it would have been a miracle for it to have this look like a “beautiful” game.

  150. buc89 Says:

    Here comes Cryin Rian Lindell!

  151. Gt40bear Says:

    They’ve got good coverage on VJax, but doesn’t seem like he’s fighting for the ball as much he usually does.

  152. Schiano Happens Says:

    How about not rolling out towards Penn’s side. That guy is done.

  153. mark2001 Says:

    Bucs 89….everyone knows we only have one receiver. Not that staring down is a good thing, but where else can he confidently go to?

  154. Gt40bear Says:

    M2001, agreed. At least the officials are keeping both sides competitive. 😉

  155. lurker Says:

    I understand the oline issues…we’ve had them for years. we still need a better qb. no matter how good a qb you think glennon is, we need a better one.

  156. BigMacAttack Says:

    The Oline is really bad and Glennon always runs left when he’s right handed. This offense is a joke.

  157. 911bucs Says:

    WTF just kick the ball off normally.

  158. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    That’s about as good as an unsuccessful onside kick can be.

  159. buc89 Says:

    We have more than 1 receiver, what are you talking about? Jackson is our best receiver, yes. There’s more than one guy running routes, I’m sure underwood or owusu has had seperation at one point this game and glennon hasn’t found it

  160. mark2001 Says:

    Lurker…even during our SB year, the O line was make shift. Will we EVER have a good O line? Just once?

  161. deathaneers Says:

    WTF, your only down by one point and you do that? Im lost!

  162. Gt40bear Says:

    Worth a shot at 4-10. No harm, no foul. 35 isn’t horrible starting FP for defense.

  163. deathaneers Says:

    I know Gt40, I just want a win

  164. mark2001 Says:

    89…he can’t count on them….they have made more drops and bad plays than they have made good ones. It is a two way street. I think Jackson lost confidence in Freeman. Glennon has no confidence in those two guys. Glennon has confidence in no one but Jackson and Wright…who as a tight end isn’t nearly as difficult to take away from him.

  165. Gt40bear Says:

    Me too. If they hadn’t batted the ball so far down field, I’d have been right there with you. Better hands on KO team though and it would have been a great play.

  166. lurker Says:

    this defense deserves better offense…just like the glory years!

  167. Gt40bear Says:

    Oooh, Rams playing Buc ball. 4 yard pass on 3rd and 11.

  168. buc89 Says:

    If he can’t count on them then they shouldn’t be on the team. You think he doesn’t count on them in practice? If they’re on the field and they’re open you throw them the ball.

  169. lurker Says:

    I miss paul gruber

  170. buc89 Says:

    The problem isn’t that glennon doesn’t trust them, the problem is he doesn’t look for them at all

  171. Gt40bear Says:

    Lurker, Hell I miss Kenyata!

  172. lurker Says:


  173. mark2001 Says:

    89 I agree…they shouldn’t and likely won’t be on the team after the end of the season. We have dumped both of them at least once. But when your FA signing turns into an expensive piece of dung, and your number 2 receiver goes in IR, and you have no young talent in the pipeline, this is what you get.

  174. Gt40bear Says:

    Great weather in Carolina. Brees must be crying about no dome! Pick by Carolina!

  175. buc89 Says:

    Yeah, I’d just like to see glennon go through his progressions rather than Jackson—-> checkdown to leonard

  176. mark2001 Says:

    GT…don’t forget that we had to trade up to draft him. Paul Gruber sure looks like a once every thirty year fluke, doesn’t he.

  177. Gt40bear Says:

    Announcer just said we have a GOOD one here in St. Louis. Maybe close but FAR from good. Come on Bucs an ugly win is better than a pretty loss.

  178. Gt40bear Says:

    2001, I heard that!

  179. Gt40bear Says:

    2001, we also traded up for Stocker. Starting to see a pattern.

  180. deathaneers Says:

    I hate to say this but im loving the Panthers right now, I hate NO.
    Not as much as I hate the Cryboys but pretty close.

  181. Killian Says:

    Is it bad that I continue to watch just to see how good David plays?

  182. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    I hope no one to include the Glazer boys think for one second this is a competitive game.

  183. Gt40bear Says:

    Killian…any port in a storm!

  184. Awaiting moderation Says:

    4 – 11 here we come can’t close lid on a jar of mayonnaise

  185. buc89 Says:

    Come on Goldson. A lot of penalties against him were bullshit this year but that one he easily could’ve avoided his helmet there

  186. Gt40bear Says:

    My 9 year old just said “they are making football so kitten could play.”

  187. DownwithDummynick Says:

    DRaft Mathews (OT Texas A & M) and Richardson (OG Baylor) in 2014 draft. PLEASE!!!!

  188. Alexstotle Says:

    Killian Im doing the Same, LVDand McCoy.

  189. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    Here comes another three and out

  190. Awaiting moderation Says:

    Dodged a bullet thanks to Revis

  191. Gt40bear Says:

    How about draft Jake Matthews, trade 2nd to Washington for Cousins and sign Greg Hardy in FA.

  192. lurker Says:

    wow, penalty declined….whew

  193. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    I don’t think I can handle another run up the middle on first down

  194. Killian Says:

    I want David to get that last pick to be the only player in history with 6 sacks and 6 ints.

  195. buc89 Says:

    We run the RRPP scheme. Run, Run, Pass, Punt

  196. Alexstotle Says:

    I like Goldson’s Tackling and Aggressiveness, but all those penalties just seem like the investment isnt worth it, not in the 2013 NFL.

  197. deathaneers Says:

    maybe they will play hurry up offense (if they practiced it).

  198. chickster Says:

    Cousins would be a good fit here ill get it rolling calling his agent now

  199. SAMCRO Says:

    like to see them go into the two minute offense.

  200. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    I wish someone had enough time on their hands to track our play calling on first down. Its got to be 75% run

  201. Awaiting moderation Says:

    Sully needs to take the handcuffs of glennon

  202. lurker Says:

    is the giraffe gonna put the team on his back and drive down the field?

  203. Mach Says:

    Bucs have 2 plays and the same every series lol.

    Run run pass

    Run pass run

    Doesnt take a genius to defend that or and the occasional trick play thrown in

  204. Patrick in VA Says:

    Don’t know that this game is telling us anything that we haven’t already diagnosed. Performers are performing. Soft areas are still UN need of attention in the off season. We are who they thought we were

  205. lurker Says:

    nice reverse…no one else compliments when a good play call works …lol

  206. mark2001 Says:

    Patrick…sounds like the game I’m seeing.

  207. buc4lyfe Says:

    Lol this is the same o line we had last year so in one year probowler potential next year let’s just get rid of em? Doug Martin was playing horrible before he got hurt and idiots were talking about trading him when Mike James came in…..just except that the coaching staff doesn’t know how to mask deficiencies poor make adjustments to how their being played…how could look good on a team where the coach says we’re no gonna ruin no huddle just because it’s working because we didn’t practice it….we got a he’ll of a squad next year when everyone comes back healthy, let’s get a real coach that calls his own offense plays, someone who can figure our how to use Jeff demps

  208. Patrick in VA Says:

    Side note, digging the rams’ cheerleaders outfits. Kinda trailer trashy but the girls are cute. Don’t you judge me. They’re no Micah from the Bucs squad though

  209. Cmurda Says:

    Johnny Football

  210. Gt40bear Says:

    Lurker, was in shock Sully didn’t run up the middle. Was a nice play. And then there is that. Why we are 4-10 kids.

  211. Alexstotle Says:

    LVD Time!!!!! Game Over

  212. mark2001 Says:

    Lurker…sounds like the comments I heard during the late 80’s and most of the 90’s. Where did all the SB year optimists go to?

  213. 911bucs Says:

    2 min. offense

  214. Awaiting moderation Says:

    We’ll that games over

  215. Splengo Says:

    Not ready for prime time!

  216. buc89 Says:

    Johnny Football or just someone who can scramble please.

  217. Killian Says:

    I might be losing faith in Glennon. Banks is not elite. Schiano and Sullivan should be fired.

  218. lurker Says:

    crap…even a giragge has more escapability than the giraffe.

  219. mark2001 Says:

    Let’s let Glennon drop back and throw more passes…that is the ticket.

  220. RealityCheck Says:

    Banks doesn’t even attempt to make a play and push the receiver out of bounce. He literally slows down and let’s him catch it. Just wow.

  221. lurker Says:


  222. Awaiting moderation Says:

    The bucs have become a disaster I don’t even get pissed anymore it’s like I’m just numb to it because I expect this BS

  223. mark2001 Says:

    Killian…the only way that accomplishes anything is if you send Dom packing with him and starting over from GM on down.

  224. lurker Says:

    lol giraffe…switching back and forth

  225. 911bucs Says:

    @Mark what other option is there? We can’t run the ball

  226. buc89 Says:

    Banks has gotten better as the seasons’ progressed. I think he’s been a good addition. We need a nickel to replace Leonard Johnson for sure

  227. Patrick in VA Says:

    @mark- nobody could’ve predicted a year this bad. It’s safe to be a nay sayer at the beginning of the year. We hoped for the best. It looked like we were close. Turns out we need more and we’ll get it this off season.

  228. Danny Says:


    The helmets they’re wearing today has a brighter shade of gold than normal.

  229. Awaiting moderation Says:

    Let’s bring back Shiano next year yeah that’s the ticket because we have injuries what a crock of shiiiite

  230. deathaneers Says:

    The team just quit! so much for having a team loaded with talent on paper

  231. D-Rome Says:

    Bucs are going to lose this game. The offense is awesome under Glennon.

  232. Buc Neckid Says:

    There is plenty of tape on the guy and now
    I am officially off of the fence on Glennon
    The Bucs HAVE TO Draft a QB in the first round this year
    Glennon is a Back-up NFL QB at best
    Good Kid
    But just
    Not a Good Starting NFL QB

  233. mark2001 Says:

    Agreed Patrick…I think we need to bring in another QB to compete…draft if the right guy is there. And if we want to retool the entire organization, that is an option. I personally think one more year. But it would have to start from Dom on down, get the best GM you can, and help find the best HC available. Dom doesn’t have the stuff to trust to find the right guy and plug in a new coach.

  234. chickster Says:

    your watching how a good coach wins a close game

  235. Killian Says:

    The positive out of this game is we will improve our draft position. I almost feel like we should just go after cutler in FA.

  236. Gt40bear Says:

    Not saying it’s over, but if Rams make it a two score game, gotta go. Company coming for Christmas, lots of prep to do.

  237. Buc Neckid Says:

    Must be nice to have a reliable kicker that doesn’t play Charity Basketball in the off season

  238. chickster Says:

    most of you bus fans are daydreamers and should not be talking so much it sounds like a retard class in session

  239. D-Rome Says:

    Schiano won’t run no huddle because it worked last week. o.O

  240. 911bucs Says:

    That ill timed onside kicked f(_)ked us. Thanks brilliant coaching staff for a Merry Christmas.

  241. Buc Neckid Says:

    Fisher = Schiano + $5 Million per year

  242. mark2001 Says:

    death…this team isn’t that good “on paper”. But we hometown fans just can’t accept that. If we are totally healthy, we still have a rookie QB, a below average receiving corp, a weak O line, a D line that doesn’t sack QBs, and a slow #3 CB playing the second CB position. And as Patrick says…we need to go out and get some talent…we aren’t there yet.

  243. lurker Says:

    cya gt40bear, then…lol

  244. Awaiting moderation Says:

    Why don’t the glazers see who’s available @ the end of year then make the decision on if they keep the poor bastard.

  245. Buc Neckid Says:

    Where is the WR YAC ?

  246. Bucs Fan Since '76 Says:

    We just don’t have enough talent on Offense. We sooooooo need a house cleaning upstairs. Dominick has had five years to prove himself and the record and lack of talent speaks volumes.

  247. buc89 Says:

    Glennon Sacked! Haven’t seen that all year, oh wait……

  248. D-Rome Says:

    Put in Dan Orlovsky!


    we suck!!!!!

  250. chickster Says:

    4/11 4/11 4/11 merry Christmas

  251. buc89 Says:

    Sacked Again!

  252. DallasBuc Says:

    Our QB is a sack machine!!

  253. lurker Says:

    schiano can stay 1 more year but move the oc and dc on…

    we have in-house oc and dc


    YES……WE SUCK BAD!!!!!!!

  255. mark2001 Says:

    Guys…we knew it was over when we started 0-8. I got all my frustrations out then. Right now, it is about seeing who can play and who can’t, and figuring out who we should keep or dump in the off season. Take a deep breath…this season was due to end in another week about 8 weeks ago. Just hope we make the right decisions in the off season.

  256. buc4lyfe Says:

    Can’t blame dominick because Schiano doesn’t know how to relate to veteran players…..we had a boat load of them in the off-season but someone had to answer for this abomination on the field

  257. buc89 Says:

    Were still in this, if they start taking a knee we can force a fumble. Schianos done it in college

  258. D-Rome Says:

    It sure would be nice to have an edge rusher….

  259. Rob Says:

    Weekly laughing stock suck fest complete and Quinn sets rookie sack record against us. Thanks Glazers for getting such a proven coach in Schiano

  260. buc89 Says:

    We have earned the name YUCS

  261. mark2001 Says:

    Brock…we aren’t nearly the worst team….just in the bottom 10 somewhere. That is bad, and if Shiano and Dom stay, it will be the final make or break for both of them.

  262. lurker Says:

    crap…qb, oline, or de

  263. lurker Says:

    it is impressive what gmc is doing without outside help.

  264. Shane Marco Says:

    One more loss and we can get a new GM and lovie Smith!

  265. mark2001 Says:

    Love how you guys seem to give Dom a pass for the lack of talent and the coaching carousel….the bad FA signings, etc… That is the number one reason that you have to question the football knowledge of many Bucs fans.

  266. Waterboy Says:

    I’m not sure that the Bucs can pass on a QB in the draft based on what I’ve seen out of Glennon this season.

  267. Mach Says:

    Rex rtan to tampa bay.. Thats all i wamt for xmas

  268. lurker Says:

    NO LOVIE SMITH…and I don’t use caps often

  269. Mike Says:

    Schiano and Dominic need to go, mediocrity is unacceptable.
    Glennon is the solid backup we need, anyone that thinks he’s our franchise qb is an idiot and doesn’t realize the investment of a qb.
    We need a new LT.
    If Nicks isn’t the guy, we need a guard.
    We need a DE.
    We need a slot receiver/punt returner.



  271. DallasBuc Says:

    Another sack! What is wrong with him?

  272. Splengo Says:

    I suggest we use the victory formation charge!

  273. lurker Says:

    and panthers lead again

  274. jason77 Says:

    I love watching this team..

  275. Jo_mama Says:

    Glennon needs to learn how to throw with his left hand. each time he rolls left and people are covered down field he takes a sack.

  276. RealityCheck Says:

    Can we at least agree to stop saying how full of talent the team is?