This Is Not A Rebuilding Year

September 25th, 2013

Today’s change to Mike Glennon does not earn Greg Schiano a pass

Joe can’t emphasize this enough to Bucs fans, friends, family, clergy and Team Glazer: 2013 is not a rebuilding year.

It absolutely is not, nor should it be considered that under any circumstances.

Greg Schiano himself said four weeks ago, “through the ranks we’re better.” Schiano himself said Friday he has the components in place to win now. There are eight Pro Bowlers 30 years old and under on the roster. There are emerging starts like Mason Foster, Lavonte David, Mark Barron and Mike Williams. Schiano also has a hand-picked coaching staff with trusted advisor Butch Davis in the shadows

Today’s reported move to Mike Glennon is Schiano’s call, and Joe sincerely hopes the head coach realizes that he’s still responsible for delivering a team to Bucs fans that is better than what was witnessed in 2012.

Glennon or not, Schiano must be held accountable to the reasonable expectation of producing an improved team.

59 Responses to “This Is Not A Rebuilding Year”

  1. Mark G Says:

    @Joe ESPN just announced Freeman has been benched and Glennon will start Sunday against AZ. . . told ya!

  2. T in Orlando Says:

    Joe is right, this is not a rebuilding year, it is the epitome of sink or swim.

    If Glennon does well, and results in more than a handful of wins, then this was just the next step in the Schiano Era.

    If Glennon falters, this whole thing will be blown up, including HC and GM, and next year will the rebuilding year.

  3. You Go Joe Says:

    1 step forward, 3 steps backwards with today’s decision. Too many high risk gambles this year, all of which are not playing out so well. It still will be the same coaching calls, run down the middle and bomb on 3rd and long. Unless this changes we will still be in the same boat. The defense is what really improved, however that alone can’t carry a team.

  4. bucrightoff Says:

    This is a transitiion year. Transition to what? Obviously that depends on what Glennon can do. Hopefully he can show the signs that he can start in the NFL so we can focus our offseason on other needs. And if he’s not starter material the Bucs have to aggressively target a QB because a good QB, like an Alex Smith, with the exact same roster as now, will go to the playoffs next year.

  5. Adam L. Says:

    I think in the last 9 starts we’ve seen what Freeman can do…. and if I ever accidentally swallow something under the sink, I’ll pull out that game tape from the Saints game last season.

  6. lightningbuc Says:

    To me, throwing in the towel would have been putting JFro out every Sunday.

    Why is starting a rookie QB now considered rebuilding?

    Joe, you’ve got good football acumen, but your blindness to this whole situation is surprising.

  7. Adam L. Says:

    If he completes 51% of his passes he’s an upgrade.

  8. Cannon Says:

    Is anyone else frustrated by the fact that this is arguably the most talented team since the halcyon days of Sapp and Brooks… Yet is on pace to be one of the worst, statistically?

  9. snookau Says:

    I give Schiano credit here. If this fails, he’s fired. If he stuck with Freeman, he would’ve been safe one more year. Something had to change.

    Lets rally around Glennon and hope for the best.

    Anyone think the Glazers mightve forced Schianos hand?

  10. Free's a Boob Says:

    Joe is getting prepped for his weekly about-face at BD’s direction. Expect Joe to join the hated-filled rant of BD.

  11. gatorbuc77 Says:

    This move doesn’t buy Schiano more time, only wins can do that.

  12. teacherman777 Says:

    Glennon is going to get embarassed.

    He will throw lame duck at peoples feet.

    He will be unable to escape pressure.

    He will throw 3 picks.

    And Revis and Goldson will be shaking their heads wondering wtf theyre doing in Tampa.

    Then, players will stop caring, and start partying.

    I think Schiano is a closet racist. He likes white boys with white behavior.

    Glennon is a good ol boy with polo shirts.

    Too bad he was the WORST QB at the Senior Bow.

  13. Joe Says:

    @Lightningbuc – Joe just spent a whole post saying it was NOT rebuilding. Don’t appreciate the insults

  14. lightningbuc Says:

    “I think Schiano is a closet racist. He likes white boys with white behavior.”

    What an asinine comment!

  15. Capt. Tim Says:

    Um, yeah. It just became a rebuilding year.
    Which may be a good thing- we need new direction at GM and head coach.
    Nothing like a 2-14 season to clear the offices out at OneBuc

  16. Posey99 Says:

    Yeah, but I would bet this call came down from the top.

  17. Oil Derrick Brooks Says:

    OMG. Now we are pulling out the race card. Wow, the smell of desperation just REAKS around here.

    I’m sure Schiano totally hates Eric LeGrand.

    That’s pathetic.

  18. holymoly Says:

    And I bought season tickets to this. Oh well, we’ll see how it starts on Sunday. Maybe Glennon can show some spark, because the Vets didn’t seem happy with wide right Freeman.

  19. lightningbuc Says:

    Then why do we have to be reminded that it isn’t a rebuilding year – because they’ve removed an awful QB for a rookie?

    Obviously Schiano knows way more than me, you, and everyone else on here about Glennon / Freeman and he feels Glennon “gives them the best chance to win”.

  20. Patrick Says:

    I think Raheem is a closet racist. In 2009, all 3 of his quarterbacks on the roster were black.

  21. tmaxcon Says:

    teacherman…. You are total loser for bringing race into this. Race has nothing to do with this just makes you look stupid.

  22. Capt. Tim Says:

    A racist? Then Beallicheat must be a huge, successful racist?
    Wait, now your a racist if you just employee white guys??

    The patriots look like they know how to win.
    Best players. Smartest players. Don’t think race matters to them. And they are doing pretty good last 10 years or so

  23. bucrightoff Says:

    The Patriots also have one of the 10 best QBs ever. That might just have something to do with their winning ways.

  24. bucrightoff Says:

    “Bucs decision to bench QB Josh Freeman comes after meeting involving coach, GM and owners”

    “Bucs benching Freeman now so that Mike Glennon has a chance to learn from first-game mistakes during bye week”

    From Roy Cummings Twitter.

  25. BigMacAttack Says:

    Schiano got his but kicked by the boys upstairs. This was not Schiano’s call, it was laid out to him.

    Dungy stuck with an offense that didn’t work and lost his job.
    Gruden stuck with his offense that no longer worked and lost his job, although Monti and bad drafting helped.

    Greg, those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it, and you are going to lose your job, but it’s your team and your call.

    Yeah, I think we’ll see what Glennon can do this week. Thanks for the heads up Bryan.

  26. Oil Derrick Brooks Says:

    teacherman777 = hardcore racist

  27. holymoly Says:

    To the racist … I could care less if the Bucs QB was any race if he could hit open receivers and win football games.

  28. Buc Neckid Says:

    Also be ready for Freeman to be the Number Three QB on the Depth Chart
    Orlovsky to move up to number two

    One would hope that there has to be something in the works
    Maybe a Freeman trade to the Raiders for their 2014 First Round Pick or
    any other team for their Seventh

  29. D Says:

    This isn’t rebuilding. Rebuilding is what we’ve been trying to accomplish since we drafted freeman and it failed. Time to clean house at one buc place and hope our players want to hang around for rebuild 2.0

  30. BigMacAttack Says:

    Remember there are no bigger fans in Tampa than the Glazers. They love it so much, they bought a team. They’ve worked hard to restore their image and no way they are going to let Napoliano ruin that. The little general is on paper thin ice and I wouldn’t be surprised if big name coaches have already been contacted.

  31. Patrick Says:

    So how long is going to take to rebuild from the rebuild?

  32. Buc Neckid Says:

    Big Name Coaches would love to come to this team now
    Team is stocked and on the Brink of a nice run
    Maybe short a Quality QB,
    But Stocked otherwise

  33. Deminion Says:

    Guess I’m optimistic I gotta feeling Glennon is gunna b a upgrade… And thts coming from a former freeman supporter… And a guy thts desperate to see a bucs W… Go bucs!!!

  34. ctord Says:

    Agree Joe. This is why the season is frustrating for Bucs fans. Not that I am a huge Freeman fan. Players come and go but I was rooting for him to do well because that would mean the bucs are doing well. This is worse case scenario and now the coach and the GM are taking shots at each other. This is not good and not only is Freeman gone after five years but now it looks as though there will need to be a change in coaching and/or GM. Freeman being benched does not effect me other than the fact that it means the bucs are losing. that does concern me.

  35. BigMacAttack Says:

    Quit calling people racist. You that live in glass houses. That is so weak and such a cop out. Grow up people and leave the guy alone. He has every right to speak his mind. You’re like a darn seeing circle. Get over it and stop whining. If you don’t like his comments ignore them.

  36. lightningbuc Says:

    So will the Freeman lovers / Schiano haters now direct their anger at the Glazers and Dom, since it appears they influenced this decision?

  37. madmacskillz Says:

    After Joe spent the past month telling Bucs fans every day that Freeman would not be benched, Freeman gets benched. I have no problems with Joe being wrong – no one can predict the future. But the tone of Joe’s comments up to now has felt slightly condescending – sort of like “Oh, you Bucs fans, you’re not really thinking this through.” But most Buc fans knew this was going to happen. I find Joe to be correct in the majority of things he says. It’s odd that he was so wrong about this one. And not just wrong about it, but bringing it up so many times.

    At the end of this season, Glennon will have won only 2 or 3 games and Schiano will be fired. And his replacement will have a top 5 pick in the draft next year.

  38. mvermulm Says:

    I don’t think this was ownership forcing Schiano’s hand. I think it was the other way around. Schiano had the meeting with Dom and ownership to tell them he needed to sit the face of their franchise. Schiano obviously didn’t trust Freeman, so now he can put in someone he trusts. We’ll see how it works soon enough.

  39. BucoBruce Says:

    We will all be happy after sunday when GLENNON lights it up.He is the next tom brady book it!

  40. Oil Derrick Brooks Says:

    Wait, so I can’t express MY opinion? I think he’s a racist. TEACHERMAN777 is a racist.

    If YOU don’t like OUR comments, then YOU get over it.

  41. pelbuc Says:

    JBF, Quit speaking out of both sides of your mouth. You know damn well the Freeman FORCED this decision by his play and off field issues. Regardless of Schiano’s coaching competence, I give him (and whoever else was involved in the decision) credit for making the move. IF YOU DON’T HAVE A QB, all the other talent is meaningless. That’s just today’s NFL. Hopefully, Sullivan (whose days are also numbered if the offense continues to suck) will dumb down the offense and allow the offense to move the ball.

  42. Patrick Says:

    Trade Freeman to Washington. Raheem is there.

  43. lightningbuc Says:

    Oil Derrick,

    Consider the source. Big Mac Attack freely expressed his opinion Sunday night that he doubted that Schiano’s dad was sick. Then Monday he was able to diagnose Mr. Schiano’s illness as “not serious” from 1500 miles away, claiming Schiano didn’t want to be around the ever growing crap storm and just used it as an excuse. So not surprising that he would defend a racist.

  44. blackmagic00 Says:

    Don’t know about glennon being the next brady but I’m now behind glennon. I hope free does well wherever he goes.

  45. blackmagic00 Says:

    I’m now behind glennon, but wish nothing but success for Freeman in his future whether in football or anything else.

  46. bucrightoff Says:

    Actually what we need is to help Raheem stab Shanahan in the back like tomorrow so he can become HC, and then we can trade Freeman to the Skins since Raheem will overpay whatever it takes to get his guy back.

  47. Tampamac Says:

    This move HAD to be made. After 5 years and only 1 decent full season, how long of a leash do you give a guy? And so far this season, Josh has not shown 1 bit he deserves to be a starting QB. Glennon can’t do worse than go winless, and that’s the same boat we’re in with Josh right now so at worst it’s a push at this moment. Let’s see what the kid can do, and if he doesn’t give us a spark, we know what the 1st pick next year will be although I’d prefer a trade for a proven vet.

    BigMac- I’m black and I thought that comment was meritless and baseless.

  48. RBellBuc Says:

    perpetually changing should be our motto. 3 weeks into his second season staring at 0-3, barely into his sophomore year, and Joe is talking about the axe again if we don’t make the playoffs. You’ve made it a point to make sure everyone knows how difficult it is for any team to make the playoffs at 0-2 much less 0-3. So according to you, why don’t we save ourselves the trouble, and axe Schiano now. So pathetic, one minute you’re pulling for the guy, you like his discipline and then you turn your head and say if he’s not in the playoffs in his second year, he needs to be gone. This team will never win a championship after this national media debacle. For one thing what coach out there would commit head coach suicide and come here especially after the last assassination. And more importantly, what free agent would want to sign in this dysfunctional city unless it’s for a record amount of money? The media has hurt Tampa’s marketability.

  49. MadMax Says:

    @teacherman and @raphael are the closet racists….well, until here recently since they’re trying the race card….grow the F up mental midgets!!

  50. Tye Says:

    What does this accomplish….. returning HOPE to the fans of the Buccaneers (at least for now)… Fans can have patience losing games with a rookie because we understand it is all a part of the game BUT what fans can’t stand or tolerate is a player that has around 60 games of experience and still plays like novice!

    JF has had all kinds of opportunities, time that many other QBs in the past have not had so much of before being replaced…. The Bucs do not know yet what they have in Glennon but they sure should know by now what they have in JF isn’t good enough!

  51. MadMax Says:

    Im taking bets that Freeman doesnt hear about this until about 6pm when he wakes up! SMDH…

  52. D-Rome Says:

    I have no problems with Joe being wrong – no one can predict the future. But the tone of Joe’s comments up to now has felt slightly condescending – sort of like “Oh, you Bucs fans, you’re not really thinking this through.” But most Buc fans knew this was going to happen.

    I agreed with Joe’s reasoning as to why he thought Freeman should continue to start but I do have to agree with what you are saying in regards to the condescending tone.

    This move by Schiano is not going to change the season. Once our so-called “Rockstar” GM is fired and the new guy comes in Schiano and Glennon will find themselves out on their rears. Mike Glennon is not the future of this franchise.

  53. Couch Fan Says:

    It seems Teacherman777 is very upset his lover boy just got BENCHED!!

  54. Bucnjim Says:

    I think Schiano went to the GM & Glaziers and said if I have to go down with the ship; I’m doing it with my own guy. Some how (maybe it’s the money) Freeman lost the fire it takes to be an NFL player. When I look at the great QB’s like Favre, Young, Manning, and even Brady; they’ve all got a fire to be the best.

  55. WestCoastBucsFan Says:

    Sadly, I think this ensures Schiano’s job security. Unless we go completely winless, I don’t see Schiano losing his job. THAT might be the worst part of all this.

    The Bucs face the longest third downs in the league. Glennon can’t fix that. Especially now that we will be running EVEN MORE on first and second down with the rook back there.

    I’m sorry but this whole thing reeks of desperation.

  56. MakaveliTheDon Says:

    Phase 1 of The New Schiano Takeover is complete.

    1) Take Out Freeman – check
    2) Take out Sully, Promote McNulty –
    3) Undermine and Take Out Dominik –
    4) Assume the Role of HC & GM like Belicheat –

    PJ Fleck (former assistant):

    “He had a hand in every aspect of that program. He wasn’t just the football coach, he was everything. He was the marketing director. He was the fundraiser. He was the recruiting coordinator. Greg could do anything. He did do everything.”

    @Glennon, go out and get us your first win on Sunday! You dont have to carry this team, just stay consistent. Youre our new QB, and I’ll support you 100%

  57. MakaveliTheDon Says:

    Joe – “Greg Schiano himself said four weeks ago, “through the ranks we’re better.”

    sorry Joe, but he also said less than 48 hours ago that he hadnt considered benching Freeman and that Freeman will start Monday.

    one lie after another. I live by Tony Montana’s mantra – “All a man has is his word, and his balls”. This guy doesnt have either.

  58. MakaveliTheDon Says:

    *start Sunday (vs AZ)

  59. MakaveliTheDon Says:

    (I forgot Phase 5)

    Phase 1 of The New Schiano Takeover is complete.

    1) Take Out Freeman – check
    2) Take out Sully, Promote McNulty –
    3) Undermine and Take Out Dominik –
    4) Assume the Role of HC & GM like Belicheat –

    @Glennon….no pressure and all, but you not only control your own destiny, but Schiano’s as well. just F’n win! Go Bucs!!!