All-In On Mike Glennon

September 7th, 2013

Despite a woeful final preseason game by Bucs backup quarterback Mike Glennon, the Mike Glennon Mob is alive and well.

Their outcries for Glennon to take over as Bucs quarterback may have quieted, but they’re only pushed back into the shadows, not gone.

Joe knows the don of the Mike Glennon Mob is Dave the Producer at WFLA-TV, Channel 8. So if Dave the Producer is the don, then popular radio and television sports personality Adam Schein is certainly a made man if not a capo.

Schein, once a believer in Bucs franchise quarterback Josh Freeman, has given up on Freeman and in not quite the past year, has made no secret of how he feels about Freeman as a starting quarterback in the NFL. Schein recently has all but claimed Glennon would start before the end of the season and now, in his weekly NFL.com column, Schein has gone all-in on Glennon claiming it will be Glennon — not Freeman — who will save the Bucs season and is one of the nine NFL rookies to watch this year.

9) Mike Glennon, QB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Yes, you read that correctly: Mike Glennon. And yes, I know he’s not the Bucs’ starter. However, consider that Greg Schiano and Mark Dominik have built a team that’s ready to dance at every position but one: quarterback. There’s a reason they have yet to give Josh Freeman an extension: They aren’t convinced and need to see more.

If the offensive line is healthy and Freeman struggles, Glennon will play. And he should. He has a rocket for an arm and a ton of confidence. With Doug Martin in the backfield, Tampa’s going to run it 25 times per game anyway. The Bucs need someone to stretch the field and make better decisions.

In his Rutgers coaching days, Schiano liked to say that it’s better to put in the young quarterback “a day late rather than a day early.” But he had no problem reshuffling the depth chart when trouble hit. I just don’t see the coach allowing the season to slip away with Freeman. Plus, I like Glennon in the system put together by Schiano and offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan.

Now let Joe be very much upfront here: If Freeman struggles, the season is done. If Freeman is benched, he must be playing horribly, as in 2011 bad. If Freeman struggles, then it’s time to worry about the draft.

Schein does make a couple of salient points. The Bucs are built to win now (which is why Joe believes Freeman is the man, or Dominik trades for a veteran next winter). The thing Schein points out that bears monitoring is his claim of Schiano being afraid to juggle quarterbacks at Rutgers.

What exactly does Schiano do if Freeman struggles and the Mike Glennon Mob grows angrier and loud?

68 Responses to “All-In On Mike Glennon”

  1. chris Says:

    To me, if you have a question at the QB position, you won’t find an answer this year. Maybe Glennon replaces Freeman, maybe he doesnt.

    I liked Glennon’s poise, arm talent, and ability to anticipate, but he’s still a rookie who needs to develop an understanding of the playbook, chemistry with WRs, and adapt to the NFL. He’s not ready to do that. He was raw with Starter ability coming out. But playing him early would not be smart.

    I think we’;ve seen Josh’s ceiling. He’s been in the league 4 years, going into his 5th. We still see the same Josh Freeman. I don’t see him changing.

  2. Architek Says:

    This is a solid article and the items that Schein stated echoed my stance in recent posts.

    Freeman will struggle because he’s an inconsistent qb. He will high and low us as a fan base. But the big picture is that the expectations for him to come out and throw 25 TDs and 6 INTs are long gone. I say this because I have seen 5 years and counting of the deer (look into space) and he doesn’t seem to have fire as a competitor.

    Also the non-voting of Captain Question Mark to not be a capt is very telling. I think the season will be very good or very bad – boom or bust because the lockeroom does not believe in Freeman. There is no way a franchise qb is not a captain.

    So for Schiano changing qbs I feel that of we are going to pound the ground we won’t be at a total loss for the season but the expectations decrease significantly. And yes this roster is filled out except DE.

  3. Couch Fan Says:

    I have no idea what is in Glennons future. I dont have a crystal ball like most fans seem to have. What I do know is its absolutely asinine to think anything about Glennon because of a pre-season game. Not sure if anyone has noticed but Freeman didnt play much better if at all this pre-season. And he has plenty of bad games on his resume… This will not be Glennon’s year though, unless Free nose dives…hard.

  4. Buc1987 Says:

    Why does it have to be all about the QB only when people in here (Joe included) talk about Freeman’s win-loss records and such? Why do the 52 other players on the team get a pass and all the blame gets put on Freeman. Is that just the way it goes because he’s the QB? It’s Freeman’s 7-9 record last season, and Freeman’s 4-12 record in 2011. Not the teams record? I guess that’s just the way it goes when your the QB, you take all the blame for the teams record. Atleast it’s that way to some people. Even the ones that say if Freeman wants all the negativity to stop all he has to do is win. If that’s true than Shaun King was really an awesome QB for the Bucs and the rest of team did not lead them anywhere. It was Shaun King’s win-loss record not the teams, right?

  5. stevek Says:

    Freeman and the Jets.

    We will see if Freeman is better in his 2nd year in the system.

    I am pulling for Josh, but I am also being realistic.

    I just want to see the Bucs back in the playoffs, no matter who is taking the snaps

    I expect Josh to outperform Geno Smith this weekend, no excuses about that. None.

  6. Travis Says:

    The reason Dominik didn’t extend Freeman was that he and his agents knee Freeman wouldn’t be able to get what he thinks he’s worth after the way last season ended. Dominik didn’t want to lowball them which he would have been forced to do. So they all bet on free to continue to progress so he can get a fair and substantial pay raise.

  7. Deminion Says:

    so i wanna match a mob movie now

  8. Couch Fan Says:

    ^^^ That is a reach at best. So you really believe Dom purposely did not sign Freeman so he could give him MORE next year? Ok then…..

  9. Que589 Says:

    Freeman will ball out this year. Something to consider in the evaluation of Josh. He’s only 2 yrs older than RG3, 1.5 yrs older than Russell Wilson, 1 yr older than Luck and he’s younger than Kaepernick. He came into the league very raw (not developed liked the previous mentioned QB’s) and played in multiple systems. JF5 will become a franchise caliber QB this season, en route to becoming elite.

  10. Morgan Says:

    If Freeman or Glennon hit the NFL free agency market in 2014, which of the two QBs would get the best, highest bid and most interest?

    I’m absolutely positive it would be Freeman.

    There is no Glennon mob. There’s a couple of trolls on internet boards pushing out his name. They don’t know football.

    Let it rest, JBF.

  11. Bobby Says:

    It’s a team sport guys. We are better as a team and that should translate into better play by Freeman. Score and get the ball back should actually mean something this year.

  12. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    The problem with Freeman is probably that he will struggle & then do extremely well. When do you give up? When do you yank him…because once they do, there really isn’t any going back….you go with Glennon…..and spend the money you would have spent on Freeman on a number 3 WR & or a TE.
    Thats the problem with inconsistancy…..now, there is a chance that the Bucs can win even if Freeman struggles….& that is a much improved defense.
    This is the more likely scenario….Freeman struggles somewhat but the Bucs still win…..then, what do you do.
    I say you try to squeeze Josh for the best deal you can get.
    Now Shaun King thinks we should have already signed Freeman. King is wrong!!!Too much of a gamble.

    “Shaun King, one of two Buc Quarterbacks that lost a NFC Championship Game when his defense gave up 11 or fewer points.”

  13. BFFL Says:

    If the bucs loose it will be from injuries or bad defense. In that case there is no way Glennon will help.

  14. BKNYfootballhead Says:

    This “Mike Glennon Mob” thing is Joe’s weakest repetitive phrase yet; rarely do I read on this message board or other Buc sites commenters lobbying for Mike Glennon to start the season. Maybe a few here and there, but hardly enough to beat this dead horse to a senseless bloody pulp.
    A mob usually refers to a large group or populace, usually organized in mass. Does anyone else see it? Just because someone insists Freeman does not fit the bill, does not mean they believe Mike Glennon is undoubtedly the answer. This sensationalized argument is pedestrian.
    No offense, Joe, your site is awesome. And yeah, I know, I’m bickering right into to your gambit hands.

  15. BIlly Bob Says:

    Joe: It is in bad taste to define everyone who appreciated Mike Glennon skill set in the manner that you do. If Josh Freeman can some how become in lightened on his problem then he will play great However it is obvious that Freeman is clueless and can not comprehend how to get the mindset that he needs to be a good player. He can study as much as he wants. He can practice as much as he can but if he can not comprehend what he has to do and what mindset he has to have then no amount of coaching is going to change that. You can not play football from a playbook. You must quickly adapt and make the best choices on the field during the play as the play happens. Josh does not have that ability. it is obvious that he can not feel the players and their movement around them. Freeman is the type that during the play he has to make lists in his head read that list then calculate what he must do. He thinks to much he does not trust his instincts.

  16. Chris@Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Says:

    I read Schein’s article before it got posted here, and I agree!
    Glennon will start before the end of the year.
    In fact, if we implode in NY Tomorrow, because Freeman can’t handle the QB Pressure, and he screws up really bad, I will not be surprised to see Glennon the very next game!
    With a rookie QB like Glennon in there, it might buy Dominik and Schiano some more time in their jobs because they “had to replace Freeman with a rookie who is still learning”.
    Plus, it will save the Tampa Bay Buccaneers a TON of money!

    The Team basically slapped Josh right upside the head, when they did not make him a Captain again!
    How many teams made a QB Captain, and then demoted them ?

    Josh has lost his team, never really had Schiano’s support, or they would never have drafted Glennon so high!

    ONLY a bunch of big games will save Freeman, IMHO.

  17. Bucnjim Says:

    Glennon Zero regular season snaps! This is getting ridiculous. If Freeman’s not the answer then the answer lies with someone like Alex Smith. Not a rookie who has struggles against 3rd team players who aren’t currently on rosters.

  18. Bucnjim Says:

    Apple I’ll bet you a NEW roof that it will NEVER happen. I’ll expect to see you back here on Monday back peddling saying it was the defense or it was all Doug Martin.

  19. Morgan Says:

    @BKNYfootballhead

    Well stated.

  20. ben Says:

    Drafted glennon so high? The redskins drafted a qb around the same area in the same draft they spent multple picks to get rg3

  21. NY Bucs fan Says:

    Mike will never be a NFL starter he is a life time back up. If things go south with Josh we have a draft with a ton of QB in 2014 we take one first round. Look at the teams with ? At QB they passed on mike the first 2 1/2 rounds why? Oh because he is a bean pole back up

  22. Kevin Says:

    WHAT THE HELL???????????? Can we just wait until the season starts. Josh Freeman put the Bucs in position to win all but two games last year. Why is everyone doubting him? Why is that not good enough. Yes, I want the Bucs to win games now as well, but you can’t just call for the head of the quarterback every time there is a loss!!! Josh Freeman is the same rank of quarterback as Matt Stafford, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Andy Dalton. Those guys play balanced teams!!! If the rest of the Bucs play sound smart football then Freeman is perfect. Mike Glennon will not be an upgrade and I think most of the fans on here that are too stupid and ignorant to see that our defense is 100 % at fault for our 7-9 record last year should learn the game or shut the hell up! Go ahead….put Glennon in, and spend the next two years scratching your head when Freeman goes to a more balanced team with Fans that appreciate what he brings to the table. Bunch of Morrons!!!!!

  23. Jacko101 Says:

    There is no Glennon Mob there is just an Anti-Freeman one. If Josh tanks fine cut ties if he rises to the occasion pay the man. Stop all the noise about it Joe is a big instigator, it’s obvious he wants Josh out I can’t wait until Freeman forces him to write something Good soon.

  24. stevek Says:

    Freeman needs to step up, bottom line, period. Freeman decides his own fait. Freeman played his way out of being a Captain. Oh well, prove your WORTH JF5!

    If the Jets beat the Bucs, than we will have some serious problems and most like a controversy at the QB position.

    Freeman needs to lead us to a win this weekend.

    I laugh at everyone saying tha Mike Glennon will never be anything more than a back up, because NEWSFLASH: if Freeman goes out there and stinks it up and the Bucs are losing then you very well may see Glennon be an NFL starter for our Bucs.

    I guess the Bucs should have never drafted Glennon as he will never be more than a back up.

    What do we have at starting QB that is so much freaking better? Seriously? 6 wins per year, losing streaks, inconsistency and overall lackluster team performance.

    We last won a playoff game in 2003. Why can’t winning a playoff game be the bar? Oh that is right, because of our “Rock Star GM” putting together such a strong pool of talent.

    Mediocrity is not going to accepted, expect pink slips for another failed campaign, starting with the QB.

    QBs have too much impact on the game nowadays. It would be foolish to pay the 21st best option in in the game 10+ million per.

    We can put the 10 million + per towards a PASS RUSH!

  25. Jacko101 Says:

    Well said Kevin and Que

  26. stevek Says:

    Kevin,

    Josh Freeman failed us more than twice last year.

    C’mon man, be real. Freeman sucked, and he was half the problem with the Pass D being the other elephant in the room.

    Freeman was not consistent last year, and in today’s NFL, inconsistent QB play costs you games.

  27. stevek Says:

    Kevin,

    I appreciated Josh Freeman 3 years ago, in 2010.

    What has he done the last two years that causes for appreciation?

    The most INTs in football over the last two years, tied with Fitzpatrick with 39?

    A 10 game losing streak in 2011, yay!

    A 5 game losing streak in 2012, Woot woot!

    What was so awesome, maybe Freeman’s “Franchise best” season in 2012? Nope, Andy Dalton had about the same year, but he has went to the plaoyffs twice in two years.

    Playoffs, championships, winning that is what I appreciate. Whatever it takes to get this Bucs there is necessary. For the past two years, I can’t say that Freeman is a winner, and that is problem.

  28. Jacko101 Says:

    Stevek we were in every game but 2 last year, yes he is inconsistent however this is a new year. Name any available QB better? I’ll wait…..

  29. stevek Says:

    I also hate hearing the argument, “But Freeman only lost 2 fumbles last year”.

    Doesn’t matter, what matters is that Freeman put the ball on the ground 10 times last year.

    I also don’t like Freeman being compared to Mark Sanchez, they both have been worse after good starts to their careers.

  30. Jacko101 Says:

    Also what has he done last year that needs appreciated? Broke the Bucs TD & Yardage record 1st year in a new system. But that’s no big deal right

  31. stevek Says:

    Jacko101,

    No one off the street is better than Freeman right now, unless Brett Favre can still sling it.

    However, if Freeman fails to put it all together this year, then what the hell are we waiting for, seriously?

    Mediocrity at the QB position can not be signed long term.

  32. stevek Says:

    Jacko101,

    Last year, Freeman had 6 good games, put us in the hunt at 6-4 and then he fell off the face of the eart and broke our hearts.

    We lost 5 straight games, and Atlanta rolled over in week 17 so that we wouldn’t have a better draft selection. Sad.

    Last year was what turned me off from Freeman. I just don’t see a QB that is improving, regressing if anything.

  33. stevek Says:

    Bottom line, if Freeman is staying with the Bucs, he needs to show us playoffs this year.

    No more folding under pressure.

    6-15 against teams with winning records is awful. The Bucs need to be better. Our QB needs to be better. It is what it is.

  34. Jacko101 Says:

    Like you said Stevek “if”
    He doesn’t improve replace him with someone I’m fine with that. I haven’t given up on him and I really hope this year he silences his critics. He has the tools to do it the question is will he? Mark me down I think he will.

  35. stevek Says:

    Right on Jacko101,

    Freeman has this year, clean slate, to show why he is a Buccaneer man.

    2010 was yesteryear. Tomorrow is what counts.

  36. Buc1987 Says:

    “6-15 against teams with winning records is awful. The Bucs need to be better. Our QB needs to be better. It is what it is.”

    Now Steve is that all the QB’s fault or the teams fault as well? Could the same not be said about the coaching staff too?

  37. stevek Says:

    Buc1987,

    The defense was not much of a help, and the Coaches could be part of it.

    We have gotten new coaches and our GM is allowed to spend money, but what about Freeman.

    Has Freeman gotten worse since 2010? Yes, the answer is yes unfortunately.

    QBs have the greatest effect of anyone: HC, or the other 52 players on game day. Freeman needs to show he can lead this team to success, playoff success.

    I can tell you one thing, Buc1987, don’t expect the blackouts to stop unless we start winning. If the Bucs fail to win this year, do you fire your HC and staff, and resign Josh?

    Seat warmth at One Buc Place:

    1. Freeman- all eyes on JF5, how does he respond in a contract year?
    2. Dominick- what the hell is this guy doing? Surely not winning enough to date.
    3. Schiano- we need to win games, and we need to see Schiano’s system work. I question our pass rush.

    At the end of the day, Josh Freeman and our GM are the two culprits. One has played meh for the past two years and the latter has us stuck in the rebuilding phase.

  38. stevek Says:

    4th place in the NFC South for the 3rd year in a row is not acceptable.

    Sustaining and facilitating a 5+ game losing streak for the third year in a row is unacceptable.

    Team game, it may be, but any good QB worth the pay day finds a way for his team to be competitive more often then not.

    In our case, we point at everything else but the QB.

    Good QB play goes a long long way in this league, and that is why Freeman is under scrutiny. Until Josh man’s up and takes control of this team, showing some fire in the process, he just looks complacent and care free.

    When is Josh Freeman expected to win?

  39. Kevin Says:

    He’s got a better record against teams with winning records than Mathew Stafford. I don’t hear people calling for his head after going 4-12…go ahead let’s hear the excuses. Yes I realize Josh Freeman is not “ELITE” I get that. But Fans need to be realistic and go back and look at every single game. Josh had two games last season where he REALLY screwed up. Drew brees has a 7-9 record last season and he’s got a ring! Look at the games. Philly, Washington, NYG, 1st ATL game, Dallas and I think maybe the first NO game. I might be wrong on that last one. Those were all games against tough hig powered proven winner teams that our QB had us in until the end, all for our defense to get bombed. I want to point something out about our team…it doesn’t matter how well Freeman plays. If our corners keep playing ten-fifteen yards back off the receivers against breed, ryan, peyton, brady. They’re going to hit slant routes on us all day and then throw bombs in the fourth quarter when our D is tired…JUST LIKE LAST SEASON!!! Then our QB regardless of what his name or Jersey number is, get’s left to either try and win 50% of our games in the last 1:55 seconds of regulation or be slated as the most horrible QB in the league. If he does as bad as his critics say he will I will waive the white flag and admit being dead wrong….but if he DOES come out and put up the same numbers or better than last year…the defense needs to be held accountable for losses given up in the final minutes of the fourth quarter against proven contenders.

  40. Buc1987 Says:

    “When is Josh Freeman expected to win?”
    @Steve
    Better yet when is the team expected win? As far the national media not this season. As far as some of the positive fan base on JBF like me this season. It’s like Joe mentioned on the radio the other day to a caller. Except I’ll modify the question they asked the caller.

    If Freeman goes out the the 1st 4 weeks of the season and plays lights out passing at 60% or higher and has 12 TD’s and no INT’s and the team goes 0-4, is that Freeman’s fault? Does that make him an 0-4 QB to start the season? Or is the team or Schiano’s 0-4 record?

  41. Jacko101 Says:

    He is expected to win Tomrrow let’s stand by

  42. stevek Says:

    Buc1987,

    If Freeman goes out and throws 12TD-0 turnovers, the first 4 weeks and we are 0-4, then it is not his fault.

    Dominick would have to fall on that sword.

    Schiano needs time, and his guys. I think Schiano has the longest leash and rightfully so.

  43. Tye Says:

    I will defer my opinion of MG until I have seen him play in a few regular season games, unlike JF which I have seen plenty and enough for that matter…. JF remains nonchalant about all this as if he doesn’t want this bad enough… Don’t know if MG is the answer but JF keeps showing he isn’t….

    Game 1 of JF’s audition starts against the Jets…. Make the most of this audition or their shouldn’t be many more!

  44. Fritz50 Says:

    “Freeman decides his own fait.”

    as in fait accompli ? Jazus…learn the language !! I try not to be the ‘English Police’, but this was just too much, far too much.

  45. stevek Says:

    Fritz,

    Lack of playoffs leads to angry, mindless typing about it.

    Sorry that the grammar is not always up to par. Hopefully the QB play will be up to par this year. 🙂

  46. Walter Says:

    I’ve gotta say, this whole offseason has been one huge buzzkill.

  47. Buc1987 Says:

    Walter…that’s only if you endured the bashing that was taking place in the in jbf’s comment section. I was almost out of here 3 times.

    “Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in.” Why, because it’s my team too. Winning cures everything, lets hope it starts tomorrow.

  48. stevek Says:

    Exactly Walter and Buc1987,

    The time is now.

    Tomorow is a new day.

    What say the Bucs?

    Bo Gucs!

  49. crazy Says:

    The real problem is what do the Bucs do if 5 plays well enough to give you hope but poorly enough to make you crazy? Whether playing with a lead or playing catch up it’s time to keep the chains moving and stop the negative yardage. Whether the Glennon project will produce a starting QB is not a question we want to know the answer to this year.

  50. Travis Says:

    Matt Ryan stays cool and level so we call him Matty ice and praise him. Josh Freeman keeps a level head and speaks logically and we say he has no fire. That’s just ridiculous. I’ve seen him plenty fiery on ggame day. I see him get in the face of receivers who run bad routes and linemen who blow blocks. The lack of passion debate is baseless.

  51. mpmalloy Says:

    There ain’t no Mike Glennon Mob.
    Don’t go stickin your nose where it don’t belong.

    Get my drift, pisan?

  52. stevek Says:

    Travis,

    Press conference etiquitte is the least of our concers. Matty Ice performs well in GAMES.

    How will Freeman respond to pressure? Gotta be better than 2nd to last when being blitzed.

  53. Free's A Boob Says:

    Joe, I still think you should market MGM t-shirts

  54. Fritz50 Says:

    “Sorry that the grammar is not always up to par”

    Sorry, too…caught me off guard in the all important fight against pernicious text messaging spelling & grammar. Take care.

  55. Buc1987 Says:

    Wait….is Adam Schein’s middle name Robert?

  56. rdbucfan Says:

    Kevin,

    We had the lead for a very short time in the Dallas game. You said the defense keeps getting tired. What causes a defense to get tired? Could it be the offense not sustaining drives?

    Did you know Josh only completed 32.97 percent of his passes on 3rd down last year?

    That would make any defense get tired if they’re always on the field. Part is on the defense for not getting off the field by allowing the opposing offense to sustain drives.

  57. rdbucfan Says:

    Kevin,

    I forgot to add that Josh had the ball with less than 2 minutes remaining no time outs down by 6. The head set in is helmet goes out and our so called franchise QB calls a running play on 3rd and long. That does not give me much faith in him as a leader or franchise QB.

    I do hope he shows progress this year and leads us to the playoffs. Because if he doesn’t it will be a very long year.

  58. rdbucfan Says:

    Buc1987,

    You need to provide more details to your scenario.

    Did we have any turnovers?

    When did we score the touchdowns that Josh threw (early in the game or trying to come back from a large deficit)?

    How many 3 & outs did we have early in the game?

    Were the touchdown drives long sustained drives?

    Were they off a short field where our defense had to go right back onto the field?

    Some of Josh’s record breaking stats were because we were behind and had to throw the ball a lot. If I recall we had a few games where our offense was pretty inefficient in the first half of some games and extremely efficient early on in others.

  59. SteveK Says:

    Hitting your passes 1/3 on 3rd downs in unacceptable.

    You can’t be playoff bound with that.

    I think the second year in the system will be big for Josh. I hope he comes out tomorrow and channels his inner Peyton Manning.

  60. Buc1987 Says:

    rdbucfan…I don’t know why in the hell you would need details like the ones you stated I don’t think it could be more clearer than the way I wrote it.

    “If Freeman goes out the the 1st 4 weeks of the season and plays lights out passing at 60% or higher and has 12 TD’s and no INT’s and the team goes 0-4, is that Freeman’s fault? Does that make him an 0-4 QB to start the season? Or is it the teams or Schiano’s 0-4 record?”

    “Okay then I’ll also throw in he did not fumble the ball at all too.” smfh

    The point of what I said is that it’s a team sport and there is 52 other players on the team besides the QB. Man some people just grasp at every straw they can to find anything negative they can say about Josh. Pathetic! smfh

  61. Oahubuc Says:

    Schein woiks for me.

  62. Oahubuc Says:

    Freeman doesn’t have an inner Peyton Manning.

  63. Ricky Bobby Says:

    Joe is obviously a frequenter of The Red Board if he believes there is really a “Glennon Mob”.
    The Red Board is full of trolls, Joe. There are only a few real Bucs fans on there. I thought you knew that by now. Sad.

  64. Morgan Says:

    RB- I think you’ve nailed it. You can’t take anything posted on PR.com for face value.

  65. Buc1987 Says:

    @Ricky Bobby and Morgan…you 2 obviously have not been on these threads for the past 2 months. Joe does not have to look further than his own site to find Freeman hate.

  66. Ricky Bobby Says:

    @1987.. I visit JBF every day for highlights and news. Just not the forums. I got to PR for that. It still has several die-hards who are great to talk to. Trolls are everywhere, but the “Glennon Mob” is hardcore over there.

    @Morgan… You wouldn’t happen to be the same Morgan from PR would you? 🙂

  67. Buc1987 Says:

    Ricky…yes I’ve read the stuff @ pr on the board. It is disgusting. About 75% more negative fan base than JBF.

  68. Franco Says:

    In my opinion Josh Freeman’s only consistency is inconsistency, he’s done it time and time again for the last for years, which today has proved that nothing has changed. Which is why I think we should go with Mike Glennon.