“It Is All About Mike Glennon”
July 18th, 2013
Look, everyone knows a good chuck of the Bucs’ success this year (or failure) rides on the shoulders of No. 5, Josh Freeman. The Bucs quarterback is at the crossroads of his career.
If he puts together a good season, he will return to the Bucs in 2014, likely a much, much, wealthier man and the Bucs will have a winning record and might be playoff tested.
While just about every football analyst points to Freeman as the linchpin to the season, Gregg Rosenthal sees the Bucs’ season through a different prism. The head honcho of NFL.com’s highly underrated “Around the League” blog, Rosenthal believes the Bucs’ fortunes do not center around Freeman but backup quarterback Mike Glennon, as he told his colleague Dan Hanzus in a recent NFL.com podcast.
“I think it is all about Mike Glennon. This is a rookie quarterback that has a chance to play this year. And I don’t mean Week 1. But I mean Week 12 if the Bucs are sitting there at 5-7 or maybe even Week 8 if they are at 3-5, something like that,” Rosenthal said. “I don’t think the preseason matters for many people, but it matters for rookie quarterbacks because that is all the coaches are going to see of Mike Glennon. So I am looking to see how he does in the preseason.
“I can’t decide if the Bucs are the cool team on the rise or the cool tam on the rise that everybody likes that will, well, just stink.”
Joe knows there are regular readers who are riding shotgun on the Mike Glennon bandwagon, but there simply is not enough alcohol for Joe to guzzle to connect dots that put Glennon starting at quarterback this season. That wouldn’t be for the Bucs in 2013.
If, as Rosenthal hinted, Glennon is starting, that means either Freeman is hurt or he is crapping the bed so awfully that Bucs coach Greg Schiano has benched him. There simply is no way — this season — that Glennon provides the Bucs with a better chance to win games than Freeman.
Is Glennon is starting, then it’s time to begin researching the draft.
July 18th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
I can’t decide if the Bucs are the cool team on the rise or the cool team on the rise that everybody likes that will, well, just stink.”
the cool team on the rise that everybody likes <—- where did this come from? Now, he's just making crap up. We seem to be the team destined to fail according to everyone else. More piling on…
July 18th, 2013 at 12:14 pm
Light em up Mikey!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 18th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
so the thought process from just about every “analyst” is to think about contingency plans because we are destined to go “5-7 or maybe even Week 8 if they are at 3-5.” where the hell is all of this coming from? Im starting to think these guys are required to put a negative outlook on all things bucs. Nnnnoooooo… this season is not “all about Glennon”, and Yeesssss… this season is all about Freeman. all together now.
July 18th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
I don’t see Glennon starting this season unless Freeman gets injured. IMHO Freeman will play the best football of his pro career at this point.
July 18th, 2013 at 12:56 pm
I too agree that Freeman will have the best season of his young pro career… Light it up Josh and lets put these naysayers out to pasture!
July 18th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
I swear, Mike Glennon looks like a Luke McCown to me appearance-wise.
I hope the Bucs are paying attention to all of these predictions. I’m starting to feel as though the Bucs might actually go all the way this year like those teams no one expects to win the Superbowl at the start of their season from time to time.
No one thought Gruden would do it in his first year.
I have very high hopes for this year, but I also have a minimum result I would settle for. A winning season. Freeman be productive all year long. 4-2 in the division. More game sellouts.
Those things would make me happy enough. But I’m believing for more as well.
July 18th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
If the Bucs lock the division before the last game, I could see Glennon getting some reps in the last game of the season.
July 18th, 2013 at 1:00 pm
There is no reason why Glennon should start this year except for injury. The job is Freeman’s to lose. He has everything on his side.
With that being said, I personally just dont think Freeman is so good that its unfathomable a rookie can come in here and beat him out for his job.
But let’s say Freeman has a good year but not great, Bucs Finish with 9 wins and miss the playoffs. At the same time, Glennon shows a ton of promise… what then?
July 18th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
I love Josh Freeman.
July 18th, 2013 at 1:09 pm
Man, I thought with training camp just around the corner, the media crazy talk would subside. Seems I guessed wrong!
July 18th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
@Couch Fan
Then we’ll have to decide.
July 18th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
Couch Fan Says:
“But let’s say Freeman has a good year but not great, Bucs Finish with 9 wins and miss the playoffs. At the same time, Glennon shows a ton of promise… what then?”
We trade Glennon. Starting a rookie now would means taking a few years to develop him. Especially a guy taken in the third round.
This team has the talent to win now. If Glennon takes 3 year to develop properly, half our starts will be in their 30s. We would have major turnover.
That’s why I think if Freeman doesn’t work out the Bucs need to go for a big name veteran that comes available next year, and draft to QB in the first round. Because Glennon just isn’t the answer.
You might recall, Freeman had a good start at first tool.
July 18th, 2013 at 1:16 pm
Please excuse my typos.
July 18th, 2013 at 1:20 pm
Theoretically if say Phillip Rivers has another bad year he could be cut, right? Someone like that to replace Freeman would do well with this roster.
Of course, I’m speaking in theory. I believe Josh Freeman will have his best year and earn a big contract, and I believe this team has mostly what it needs to go all the way.
July 18th, 2013 at 1:22 pm
The Mike Glennon Fan Club
Members (1) robert
July 18th, 2013 at 1:31 pm
There are two way Glennon sniffs the field this year.
1. Freeman injury (lets pray not, if so we are tanked)
2. We get such a lead that it doesn’t matter and the kid plays in the 4th
July 18th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
@Bonzai
Thats a good option and cant argue against that situation if it were to occur. On the other hand, I would have a real hard time trading away a QB that you think could potentially be a stud unless you are getting a hell of a deal. The QB position is the only position that makes me pause for trades.
July 18th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
Next week will tell us a lot.
July 18th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
Whoaaa Ok …everyone who is for Freeman to be our QB this year shouldn’t say Glennon has no talent, especially because he was drafted in the third round. Most of us can agree that Freeman should be the quarterback but to say that Glennon could never be that guy in the future is wrong.
Glennon is very intelligent and can make the same passes but he’s not ready for Sully’s offense now, it doesn’t mean he won’t master it by midseason. Even though this is Freeman’s audition for future consideration, if he stumbles, we might see some Mike Glennon. But I’m on the side that says Freeman will get it done this season and I understand the ramifications in case he don’t.
July 18th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
Lol Glennon
July 18th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Buc1987,
You are not a Mike Glennon fan? You must not be a real Buc fan then?
Freeman is just the 2013 starter, and I hope the QB position works itself out.
Bottom line, I want the Buc’s QB to be: consistent, productive, and gives our team the best chance to win.
Freeman gets first crack, but it is a coin flip in regards to his play.
May the best QB on this roster start.
July 18th, 2013 at 2:35 pm
He likes it!
Hey Mikey!
July 18th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
Franchise Freeman and have an open competition next year for the starting job. Both should know enough of the playbook that whoever does better in camp should get the nod and neither will have a huge advantage. An expensive proposition for sure but its the only way to make sure we start the best QB in 2014. If that is Glennon then you trade Freeman for a kings ransom. I am not sure what cap situations arise from trading a tagged player though. If they can sign him to a one year, trade-able deal ala Blount then that would be the way to go. Obviously with a much larger salary though, just not guaranteed. (Keep in mind, this is only if we go 9-7 and Freeman still has a good, not great, year.) If Freeman wins the job then hold onto Glennon for at least another year.
That is how I would do it in this scenario.
July 18th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Look training camp and preseason will be extremely important for both glennon and freeman. I remember both in 2011 and 2012 preseason I said josh looked rough and struggling. Other buc fans played it off bc it’s preseason. To me if your a 4-5 yr starter you shouldn’t struggle against vanilla defenses in preseason. Josh did.
If glennon outperforms josh , what has freeman done to not to lose the job? Now the chances of glennon taking the job outright after TC and preseason stand at 25% in my opinion right now. That can increase if he gets the offense down. He’s still a rookie. But freeman is very inconsistent and always has been. Schiano isn’t tied to Freeeman either.
July 18th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
@WestCoastBucsFan
That would be the best scenario for Freeman Vs Glennon if Freeman has a good year. I’m pretty sure there isn’t a cap penalty for trading a franchise player, I think the other team picks up the tab. A team would want to workout a contract with freeman before trading anyways.
July 18th, 2013 at 3:11 pm
A lot of “what if’s” being tossed around, but as for the “9-7 season, miss the playoffs, Freeman good/not great, Glennon shows promise” scenario…
It’s really pretty simple. Freeman’s market value will take a hit if that is the case. He won’t have the pull with the Bucs if they have a replacement of adequate ability. The Bucs can offer him a moderate, short-term contract and say “take it or leave it”. If he takes it, he has a couple more seasons to “compete” and the Bucs don’t go into cap hell. If he leaves it, we’re stuck with a 2nd year QB that has only shown “promise” and won’t know what to expect in year 2 as a starter, probably have to bring in a veteran QB to give him some competition and be a “mentor” and hope/pray he pans out. I doubt they’ll draft a guy 1st round next year because they have “promise” in the guy they have which could mean we lose out on an even more talented guy next year. Josh would sign on with some other team that is in desperate need of a QB and probably improve the team even if only minimally (again, he’s good, just not great). Either way, I see Josh Freeman as a starter in the NFL for 10 years or more, may or may not ever be a steady, consistent, elite winner, but good enough to start for many teams. It’s possible he’ll turn into something special as Eli did, may just need a change of scenery like Brees did. I’m thinking he may end up being a Vinnie Testeverde type that jumps from team to team, always gets the starting role, plays for years, but is not anything special, has some playoff games and success but is never with a complete team to win the big one because he’s getting shuffled from one bad team to another.
Or, he stays with the Bucs, figures it all out and we go on to great things. That would be my preference.
July 18th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
everybody loves to root for the backup QB, if Freeman tanks this franchise will be set back another 5 years.
Mike Glennon is a 3rd Round project QB, if he is handed the keys in 2014, we’ll be lucky to win 5 games as he struggles to ‘figure it out’
July 18th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
Yah you got me steve. I’m busted. I’m a fake fan. It’s all a sham. No I’m not a member of the Mike Glennon Fan Club. Just like I was not a member of the Josh Johnson Fan Club or Byron Leftwich Fan Club. That is until I see what he can do first. Get real. Just because the Bucs drafted him I’m supposed to be an instant fan of him? Are you really serious? Seriously? I mean seriously? All I can do is laugh now.
July 18th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Glennon = 3rd String
One day he’ll win the job as back up QB
July 18th, 2013 at 4:01 pm
Buc1987, ^^
Get serious. Mike Glennon is a Buc. We root for anyone in Pewter on Sundays, period.
I believe your hate for Glennon is fueled by the insecurity of being a Freeman enthusiast.
I don’t understand how you can nay say against a QB who has never taken a snap, but you can have BLIND FAITH for a QB who has a 24-32 record and has regressed the past two years.
My point is, I believe, that Glennon deserves the same support Freeman gets. If one is to put Freeman on a pedestal, then they should at least give Glennon a fair shake.
After all, you have been blindly faithtful for Freeman’s 56 career starts.
Franchse QB’s don’t have 5+ game losing streaks. We need to find us a QB that can make this team a consistent winner, not a “top offense HALF of the time”…
2013 playoffs are achievable. The time is now for Freeman. We have heard it all. Boomer Esiason doesn’t approve. Free’s former teammates: Earnest Graham “Josh tends to drift a little bit.”, and Ronde “Josh’s play is teetering”. Or perhaps we can cite Jaworski “enigma”.
Why can’t Freeman play consistently? He has 2013 to figure it out. Freeman will not be franchised for medicrity, nor extended.
A super bowl trophy for my Bucs is all that I care to attain. We have a loaded roster, time to have the QB with cojones take charge.
In conclusion, Freeman averages 6 wins per year. Glennon should be able to muster that.
Freeman is not worthy of our praises at this time. We have had a taste of his excellence, but yet to see it consistently.
BUC1987- Are you serious? You spent 100 dollars on a Freeman jersey, and you are so gungho he is getting extended? For real, to quote you, “all I can do is laugh now”.
Freeman will get a Buccaneer contract the day he takes a step up. If Freeman doesn’t step up, then he will be a “Jason Campbell” type journeyman (young, arm talent, inconsistent, unable to put it all together).
July 18th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
Glennon actually has a very good shot at being the #2 QB on the team. He may not have the experience and “live-action” that Orlovsky has, but he is more suited for the offense. If he can simply grasp 20% of the playbook (this is not a knock on his intelligence, simply a statement of how complex the NFL playbooks are, how many intricacies per play, nuances there are as opposed to a college playbook), I think he has the arm to come in and manage a game if needed as well as Orlovsky. Glennon is (supposedly) smart and should be able to lock down 20%. He has the arm to throw the deep ball about as well as Freeman, and Orlovsky doesn’t have that arm strength. A run-based offense throwing off of play-action should suit Glennon and he could have some success. He is, however, a rookie still and it’s still unknown if he can read a defense at the NFL level or if he has the accuracy to nail the pin-point windows. I’m not sure if he has the cajones to put the ball up when the coverage looks good from a college standpoint, but is open from an NFL standpoint. And if he does put it up, again, does he have the accuracy to nail the throw. All things to be seen, but most of us will never know. All we can base things on is an open practice here or there and a couple pre-season games. Beyond that, it will be up to the coaches to evaluate him without fan scrutiny in practices… which is why I believe in the coaches more than the fans.
July 18th, 2013 at 4:22 pm
@Stevek
“I believe your hate for Glennon is fueled by the insecurity of being a Freeman enthusiast.”
Well, I believe your praise and hope in Glennon, much like Roberts, stems from your lack of faith in Freeman. See, it doesn’t matter that its Mike Glennon, it could’ve been Tyler Bray, or any of the other prospects from this past draft, you would still be praising them and anointing them as the next “Franchise” QB.
July 18th, 2013 at 4:26 pm
Seems like we trot down this path about every three weeks.
July 18th, 2013 at 4:30 pm
Buc1987, ^^
Get serious. Mike Glennon is a Buc. We root for anyone in Pewter on Sundays, period.
I believe your hate for Glennon is fueled by the insecurity of being a Freeman enthusiast.
I don’t understand how you can nay say against a QB who has never taken a snap, but you can have BLIND FAITH for a QB who has a 24-32 record and has regressed the past two years.
My point is, I believe, that Glennon deserves the same support Freeman gets. If one is to put Freeman on a pedestal, then they should at least give Glennon a fair shake.
After all, you have been blindly faithtful for Freeman’s 56 career starts.
Franchse QB’s don’t have 5+ game losing streaks. We need to find us a QB that can make this team a consistent winner, not a “top offense HALF of the time”…
2013 playoffs are achievable. The time is now for Freeman. We have heard it all. Boomer Esiason doesn’t approve. Free’s former teammates: Earnest Graham “Josh tends to drift a little bit.”, and Ronde “Josh’s play is teetering”. Or perhaps we can cite Jaworski “enigma”.
Why can’t Freeman play consistently? He has 2013 to figure it out. Freeman will not be franchised for medicrity, nor extended.
A super bowl trophy for my Bucs is all that I care to attain. We have a loaded roster, time to have the QB with cojones take charge.
In conclusion, Freeman averages 6 wins per year. Glennon should be able to muster that.
Freeman is not worthy of our praises at this time. We have had a taste of his excellence, but yet to see it consistently.
BUC1987- Are you serious? You spent 100 dollars on a Freeman jersey, and you are so gungho he is getting extended? For real, to quote you, “all I can do is laugh now”.
Freeman will get a Buccaneer contract the day he takes a step up. If Freeman doesn’t step up, then he will be a “Jason Campbell” type journeyman (young, arm talent, inconsistent, unable to put it all together).
ALL OF THIS AND GLENNON HAS YET TO THROW ONE PASS. You sir are a comedian are you not? Is your real name Steve Harvey or Steve Martin?
July 18th, 2013 at 4:35 pm
Get serious. Mike Glennon is a Buc. We root for anyone in Pewter on Sundays, period.
^^^^ Go Glennon Go Glennon I’ll root for him not to get splinters on his ass while riding the pine all season long. While he’s sitting there I’ll cheer his name for you and robert. Just like all the rest of the 3rd string, I’ll root for them because after all they are Bucs…for now. I can see me sitting in the stands now on opening day cheering on Glennon just because he’s a Buc. Ha ha ha ha this is too funny.
July 18th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
@Walter…once again your dead on!
July 18th, 2013 at 4:54 pm
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July 18th, 2013 at 4:59 pm
Whoa, stevek…. not so fast there…. Franchise QBs don’t have 5+ game losing streaks?
Drew Brees finished the 2002 season on a 4 game losing streak. He then opened the 2003 season on a 5 game losing streak. Later the same season, Brees had an odd 4 game losing streak where he lost two games, was benched the next four games in favor of 41 year old Doug Flutie, then came back in to lose 2 more games. Other 4 game losing streaks are present in 2007 to open the season and 2012 to open the season. So, yes, franchise QBs can have 5 game losing streaks, even multiple 4 game losing streaks over their careers. They can miss the playoffs, be inconsistent, get benched, tear their shoulder so bad they get traded, make the playoffs, win the Super Bowl, have more 4 game losing streaks… but 5….5 game losing streaks? Franchise QBs only get one of those in their career.
As for the regression of Josh Freeman….
2010 6th most passing yards in team history
2011 3rd most passing yards in team history
2012 Most passing yards in team history in a season.
2010 3rd most TDs in a season in team history
2012 Most TDs in a season in team history
Freeman is not responsible for the 9th ranked offense last year, that is a team stat. He did, however come in 9th in passing yards in the league. 7th in TD passes. In 2010, he was 13th in the league in yards, 11th in TD passes. Usually, players that regress don’t improve their statistics. You may say his win/loss record went down, however that is another team stat, not player stat. Blaming Freeman for the win/loss record is like blaming LeBron James and Tom Brady for the Chicago Cubs inability to EVER win a World Series. Maybe it’s because they don’t play baseball? Or because neither of them play in Chicago? Because they don’t pitch or swing a bat? Well, Freeman doesn’t catch, block, play CB, play defense at all, play special teams, coach… all those things that go into Ws and Ls. The QB has an impact on the game, probably more impact than any other individual player on the team, and that’s why they put the W/L next to the QB… same as they put W/L next to starting pitchers in baseball… but it’s still a team game, and without the other players stepping up, the QB or starting pitcher is at the whim of the team for the record he receives. (Also, Freeman improved the record from 2011 to 2012… not regression).
July 18th, 2013 at 5:04 pm
A false statement. Freeman has not regressed in any way, shape, or form in any two consecutive years of his entire NFL career.
QB’s with five or more game losing streaks:
Cam Newton
Eli Manning
Peyton Manning
Aaron Rodgers
Ben Roethlisberger
Ja-y Cutler
Philip Rivers
Tony Romo
Christian Ponder
Sam Bradford
If “Franchise QB’s don’t have 5+ game losing streaks” then, by that definition, none of the above quarterbacks are “franchise quarterbacks”.
Nothing like people exaggerating the truth or out right lying to try to make a point. Please drop the lies from your daily repertoire stevek.
July 18th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
This guy Rosenblum, is talking out of his face. and his face is waaay up there, up in his a$$.
out of all the links youve given us this offseason, Joe….this was the one that said “we have absolutely nothing going on right now, so what do ya think about this???? hear me out!!!”
July 18th, 2013 at 5:18 pm
Am I gonna have to start going to Pewter Report now?? Just when I said that, Pewter Report was like, “now dont start talkin crazy, twocents!”
July 18th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
I hate to crush bucfan1987’s dreams of Freeman taking the next step, but mentally, I just don’t see Josh Freeman taking that step.
I think there was a lot of trust issues between the coaching staff and Freeman last year. He made some really bad decisions, throws, erratic.
For example: That beutiful dagger to VJAX in the carolina game to tie it, ask Josh to make that again?
Jason Campbell is the perfect comparison to Josh. Excellent talent to be a starter, but lacks consistency. Cannot play well week after week. If you look at Josh Freeman’s play last year:
Preseason: Struggled
1st 4 games: Shaky
Next 6 games: very good
Last 6: Struggled.
That’s 12 out of 16 games where he was shaky/struggled.
July 18th, 2013 at 5:43 pm
@Chris
Who cares if you think he’ll take the next step or not? Lol
Wannabe Ron Jaworski.
Lets just wait and see.
July 18th, 2013 at 6:07 pm
anyone into bittorrents, on TPB, theyve got every buc game condensed into 30 minutes. only plays. no filler. watch all eight hours, and really take a look into all the factors, freeman is in control of only 1/2 of 1/3 of the game. that defensive backfield never gave him or the team a chance. not to mention the lack of defensive pressure, WR errors, plus his QB coach was a joke.
our problem is we want him to be Eli, or Brees, or Jesus, but all he has to do is manage the game and not screw up. its called the “Dilfer approach”. but I seriously cant wait to come back here during the playoff hunt and what new username all you Freeman doubters will use.
July 18th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Every football person with the exception of Joe and the Freeman homers realize that it is possible Glennon could start at some point this season. And we all just saw Buc1987 profess his mancrush love for Jfro six pack so it is understood why he despises Glennon.
July 18th, 2013 at 6:39 pm
@Mean D
Yeah, he COULD start at some point.
But only if Freeman gets hurt or plays poorly.
July 18th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
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July 18th, 2013 at 6:45 pm
okay so I’ll space it out for ya then
July 18th, 2013 at 6:46 pm
@Chris…dreams? Thanks for crushing my dreams. I’ll just go with what you say cause after all you know better. I sit in here amazed by your brilliance. Ya know what? I’ve been trying to be nice on here for the last month. It all stops today. You are another one of our idiot fans. There are soooooooooo many of them, because I ran into many of them on NFL.com for the last 3 years. I bet your one of them.
Example :I think there was a lot of trust issues between the coaching staff and Freeman last year. He made some really bad decisions, throws, erratic.
Those are your thoughts as if your a fly on the wall at one buc.
July 18th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
You remind me of the same fans that kept calling GMC a bust. or The same fans that said the owners don’t care about the team that’s why they won’t spend any money on them.
As if they knew. Sound familiar.
Now your entitled to your thoughts, but when you drag me into it by saying your crushing my dream. You people don’t know jack crap.
July 18th, 2013 at 6:51 pm
still won’t post the rest??????????????????????????????????????????
July 18th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
Twice this week my fandom has been questioned by 2 fools 1st was Couch Fan, next was stevek. Both gave BS reasons for it. 1st one’s reason because I said I won’t re-new my season tickets if we don’t make the playoffs. Next one gives this reason because I’m not a Glennon fan.
Proves my theory The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have some of the dumbest fans on the planet!
I’m not here to make enemies, but one can only take all this stupidity for so long.
If Freeman does breakout, I’ve said I’m going to cram it down all your throats. Nah I won’t do that. It would be a waste of time sinking to the level of all your intelligence.
For now on I’ll just read all you dumb people’s comments and not reply.
July 18th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
A lot of you remind me of the same fans that kept calling GMC a bust. or The same fans that said the owners don’t care about the team that’s why they won’t spend any money on them.
As if the knew.
July 18th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
If we see another long losing streak we see Glennon IMO
But I am hoping and praying that Freeman finally makes the leap and sheds the Jekyll/Hyde Act.
I just think the “team” surrounding Free is so good that it’s highly unlikely they allow another losing streak to occur.
July 18th, 2013 at 6:57 pm
@tonytwocents…F**k em all!
July 18th, 2013 at 7:04 pm
I enjoy reading the skeptics opinions. That’s just it the skeptics. Not the ones that completely talk out of there ass.
@Mean D…that I love Freeman comment I made was a piece of bait thrown into the water directly for you. Once again you took it. What a fish you are.
July 18th, 2013 at 7:14 pm
^^^^ Amen! to all you fence riding fans whose mothers only taught you how to hate, and doubt, and showed you pessimism, and how to french kiss, let us pray………………….in the words of Tupac Amaru Mr Makaveli Shakur… F**k All Y’all!
July 18th, 2013 at 10:57 pm
Twice this week my fandom has been questioned by 2 fools 1st was Couch Fan, next was stevek.
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First of all I never questioned your fandom. I simply responded to your comment of “You would not buy another ticket if the bucs did not reach the playoffs” as a reason for why someone WOULD question your fandom…. go change your tampon or something and stop being so sensitive.
July 18th, 2013 at 11:52 pm
I have never on this page seen anyone whine and cry as much as Buc1987. She gets her little panties in a wad over every comment she doesn’t agree with. And she’s constantly trying to convince us she is a “real fan” which proves she’s insecure about that. “I paid $100 for a Freeman jersey.” $100? You can get a real Buccaneer jersey for that! Did it come with the iron on letters? Then she bragged about buying tickets to a particular game so she is no season ticket holder. Now she claims if the Bucs don’t make the playoffs this year she will never buy another ticket. What a die hard fan she is!!!
July 19th, 2013 at 12:09 am
WCBF,
You’re a dip sh!t.
How is my opinion a lie? Seriously, you are a trollish Homer J. Simpson.
Did we lost 10 straight games in 2011?
Did we drop 5 straight in 2012?
Did Freeman win 10 games 3 years ago? has he won us 11 games the past 2?
Freeman’s TD/INT ratio the last 2 years is 43/39, after a 25/6 2010.
Is that regression? Yes.
July 19th, 2013 at 12:16 am
Buc1987 Says:
July 18th, 2013 at 1:01 pm
“I love Josh Freeman.”
Buc1987 Says:
July 18th, 2013 at 1:22 pm
“The Mike Glennon Fan Club
Members (1) robert”
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Ok, so I see you are a Josh Freeman homer, and not a fan of Glennon. Both players are Bucs, yet you bash the back up QB?
That is not good Buc Fan logic, brosef.
I just want to see a super bowl for the Bucs. I don’t care who QBs.
I root for Freeman, but his inconsistent play the last two years has left me with doubts.
July 19th, 2013 at 12:20 am
Buc1987,
You are the fool.
July 19th, 2013 at 12:31 am
Your right in your assessment Joe, but things can change very quickly in this league and with this team.
Just ask Dungy and Gru.
If Raheem can be head coach then anything is possible.
July 19th, 2013 at 6:30 am
I’m pretty certain there was nothing new said by any of the posters and that, at some point, the name-calling and personal insults ensued so I scrolled right through them. I for one, hope all three of our QB’s behind Freeman shine in the Pre-Season. Perhaps Dominik can even snooker some desperate team to cough up a draft choice for Orlovsky. But, Bucs fans, don’t be fooled by stellar QB play by back-ups in Pre-Season games. I’ve seen several times over the years, when a back-up QB looks great in the 4th quarter of a Pre-Season game and the next thing you know fans are clamoring for him to oust the starter. Just ask Jerry Golsteyn if the regular season is just a little different. Of course the “Why Not Minot” buttons quickly got tossed in fans’ junk drawers. So, if Mike Glennon comes out and looks like a thinner version of Peyton Manning; try to temper your excitement just a little. Pre-Season games aren’t the same measure.
July 19th, 2013 at 12:30 pm
lol, you mad bro?
When you aren’t offering it as opinion but as fact. Freeman has not ever regressed two years in a row in the NFL. Twist the stats how you want but that is simply not true.
Also, your statement about “franchise quarterbacks” not having five game losing streaks was thoroughly proven false.
So yes, please stop lying and exaggerating the truth beyond reason to make your invalid points.
July 19th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
WCBF,
What about the 10 game losing streak in 2011?
How has Freeman done since a 10-6, 25TD/6INT 2010 season?
4-12 and 7-9 is not getting better.
July 19th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
Ok, WCBF, please continue to lead your enthusiast posse with “twisting” of simple facts. Freeman is not a Franchise QB (yet).
July 19th, 2013 at 3:17 pm
If we see another long losing streak we see Glennon IMO
But I am hoping and praying that Freeman finally makes the leap and sheds the Jekyll/Hyde Act.
I just think the “team” surrounding Free is so good that it’s highly unlikely they allow another losing streak to occur.
^^^^ NONE of the above is off or invalid or anymore “unqualified” than any other people who deem themselves better fans lol
July 19th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
Top ten offense. Bottom 5 defense. 7 wins. 9 losses. QUICK! What is the problem here? Offense or defense? Freeman or two corners that aren’t even on the team anymore? Franchise record holder for a QB or second all time worst defense?
Freeman needs to improve for this team to be dangerous in th playoffs but stop implying Freeman needs to do a complete 180 and transform into Tom Brady. If he puts up identical numbers but throws five less picks then he gets extended. Period.
July 19th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
Top ten offense. Bottom 5 defense. 7 wins. 9 losses. QUICK! What is the problem here? Offense or defense? Freeman or two corners that aren’t even on the team anymore? Franchise record holder for a QB or second all time worst defense?
Freeman needs to improve for this team to be dangerous in the playoffs but stop implying Freeman needs to do a complete 180 and transform into Tom Bra-dy. If he puts up identical numbers but throws five less picks then he gets extended. Period.