The QB Blast: Landry Jones Is Bucs’ Best Plan B
April 21st, 2013
Former Bucs QB Jeff Carlson
Former Bucs quarterback Jeff Carlson (1990 & 1991) writes The QB Blast column here at JoeBucsFan.com. Joe loves when Carlson fires away. Carlson is often seen as a football color analyst on Bright House Sports Network, and he trains quarterbacks of all ages locally via his company, America’s Best Quarterback. Plus, he’s a really cool dude.
By JEFF CARLSON
JoeBucsFan.com
This year’s draft does not offer an Andrew Luck, RGIII or Russell Wilson, quarterbacks with the ability to come in and start on Day 1. The Buccaneers don’t have that Day 1 need, but developing a QB for the future should be a priority even though Freeman is still very young, a third- or fourth-round pick used on a quarterback with promise is prudent.
Whether Josh Freeman has the best season of his life this year and earns a big multi-year contract or doesn’t, having another up-and-coming player ready to go is in the Bucs’ best interest for multiple reasons.
The Dallas Cowboys just rewarded Tony Romo with an unbelievable contract extension ($108 million, $55M guaranteed, $25M signing bonus). That’s for a guy that has led his team exactly nowhere and was on the verge of losing his second head coach under his leadership of the team.
I wrote before last season that if the Cowboys had another year of futility, it should be Romo’s last season in Dallas. They struggled again yet gave him one of the richest extensions in history, mainly because Jerry Jones did not do his due diligence to develop another young QB like they had in Romo behind Drew Bledsoe under Bill Parcells,. That left Jones without options and now they have mortgaged their future against a good regular season QB who can’t seem to lead them to anything that matters.
I don’t want to see the Bucs make that decision with Freeman because they don’t have the foresight to develop the depth of their roster at the most important position.
Landry is the right fit for the Bucs for a variety of reasons, writes former Bucs QB Jeff Carlson
Of this year’s group, I came away most impressed by Oklahoma’s Landry Jones. He has the best mechanics and pro-style potential and very well could be available to the Bucs when they should invest in the quarterback position.
Better ball protection was his biggest issue, but he owns the best balance in the draft and can learn to throw the ball away a little bit better and work on his pocket movement as well. He has a lot of starting experience and he fits the Bucs’ style better than the rest of this year’s hopeful signal-callers.
Florida State’s EJ Manuel would probably be my next choice based on potential upside. I would probably bore JoeBucsFan readers with analysis of his spotty and inconsistent mechanics and what he should do to improve them, but Manuel is big, mobile and also has an awful lot of experience on his resume.
E.J. Manuel’s mechanics need work
Freeman has 108 million reasons to hope he can take a couple of steps up and lead the Bucs into the playoffs in 2013, –while he keeps Landry Jones on the bench learning the ropes of the NFL game all season long.
April 21st, 2013 at 9:01 am
Bill Polian also likes Landry Jones, so the “secret” is out about him.
April 21st, 2013 at 9:17 am
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports the Jets have given Darrelle Revis permission to visit the Bucs and undergo a physical.
It’s a necessary, yet significant, step toward finalizing a trade. As Schefter also notes, the Jets would have never granted Revis permission to undergo a physical with the Bucs if they didn’t believe a trade could be worked out. Assuming Tampa Bay is happy with what it sees, then a trade should go down shortly. Latest rumors have the Jets acquiring first-, third-, and fifth-round picks in exchange for the soon-to-be 28-year-old All-Pro cornerback.
Related: Buccaneers
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter Apr 21 – 9:07 AM
April 21st, 2013 at 9:17 am
Adam Schefter reports that Revis is coming visit Tampa for a physical.
April 21st, 2013 at 9:23 am
Drafting a qb is a must and if Landry is that guy I welcome that. Freeman will be his usual self, inconsistent and spotty. He’s been that since KState and pros why does it all of a sudden change?
April 21st, 2013 at 9:25 am
I’d say the deal is already worked out.
April 21st, 2013 at 9:25 am
Freeman’s motion looks a lot more like Manuel’s than Jones’. Who woulda thought he’d be this inaccurate lol
April 21st, 2013 at 9:41 am
Enjoy your last season in Tampa, Dom. Idiot.
Mortgaging draft picks for a guy that’s gonna hold out next season for more money. Awesome plan.
As for the topic of this post, anyone who thinks EJ Manuel is anything but dog shiz, never watched him at FSU. He has ZERO pocket pressure and totally lacks the time clock in your head that any good QB has.
A pick on EJ Manuel is a wasted pick. Period.
April 21st, 2013 at 9:42 am
BREAKING NEWS!!! JETS ALLOWED REVIS TO VISIT BUCS TO UNFERGO A PHYSICAL!!!! Look dat SH*T up @JOE! it’s going down bro!!!!
April 21st, 2013 at 9:43 am
Carlson never did like Freeman, which I disagree with his reasons. However, he is right about Jones.
With Revis visiting bucs it looks like a trade may actually happen. Lot still needs to be decided though…compesation for Jets and player.
I hope he is running on his full weight now.
April 21st, 2013 at 9:43 am
So let me get this straight…. Dom has held out this entire time because he didn’t want to give up the #13 pick this season. The Jets still have NO leverage yet we’re about to give them our #1 pick? Dom is getting DESPERATE, people. Not a good sign for this team.
April 21st, 2013 at 9:46 am
Note
I have the Bucs taking Landry in the 4th in my only mock. Will have to do a new mock if this trade happens.
April 21st, 2013 at 9:46 am
Snook, you know the terms? Please do share.
April 21st, 2013 at 9:50 am
I do find it funny that there are usually about 3 Revis stories a day completely based off of speculation. And now this story is real and a major breakthrough and is over an hour old and no article.
April 21st, 2013 at 9:50 am
Snook,
Would you define “derperation” as trading our 1st for Revis, and the Bucs getting to the 2013 playoffs?
Are you too proud to trade a first round pick for the best CB in the game?
Would you rather reach and pluck the 3rd or 4th CB off the board at the # 13 selection?
Get real, loosen up, after all you should be relieved that the Bucs get to trade and pay the best CB in the game. It’s not even close.
IMO, Joe and others are totally stoked to send the #13 pick to the Jets for Revis, just so they don’t have to stomoach the best offensive playmaker coming to the Bucs at #13, Tavon Austin of course.
Laughable, is our approach and desire to be stingy with draft picks. It is time to do something crazy, and get one of the best defenders in the game.
Let’s get a top tier Defense, and see what Freeman or Landry Jones can do!
With the addition of Revis, we’ve got, “Led to the 2013 playoffs by a rookie QB” written all over us, that means a year 5 Freeman should be able to do it. 🙂
April 21st, 2013 at 9:52 am
yep, article on espn mentions the written permission to. they only talk about the holdup was this year’s 1, nothing about speculation of further picks.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9195939/new-york-jets-give-darrelle-revis-permission-meet-tampa-bay-buccaneers
April 21st, 2013 at 9:53 am
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April 21st, 2013 at 9:54 am
If Revis is healthy and the compensation to the Jets is not too rich, there’s no doubt that adding Revis and Goldson will GREATLY improve our secondary this year! If we trade our #1 pick this year, I hope we can get a big DT like Hankins from Ohio state or Short from Purdue in the second round!
April 21st, 2013 at 10:00 am
Revis makes the Bucs a playoff team? Please do share how you figure that.
Fact is, we still have no pass rush. And no #2 CB that’s worth a crap. So while Revis is working hard on the other side of the field, Wright will be getting BURNED.
Oh, and Freeman still sucks.
Or does the Revis trade include a clause that says Freeman won’t suck?
April 21st, 2013 at 10:01 am
If its the #13 pick, then there should be NO OTHER compensation. Remember, the Jets have ZERO leverage. Too bad our desperate GM is too blind to realize that.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:01 am
NOOOOO! If it truly is a 1, 3 and 5 this year with a $15 million per year contract we are going to be screwed for years if this doesn’t work out. We could have signed 5 players for $15 a year which is what we need, not a guy that is coming off major knee surgery.
I know Revis is an impact player, but I feel we not close enough to being a champion to make a move like this. As a Bucs fan I hope if we make this trade if works out, but we are taking a huge risk.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:05 am
I am a Florida State fan but I must say all the love Manuel is getting astounds me.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:07 am
One thing that kills me are the articles out there saying that the team should be careful who they bring in as a backup QB so there’s no QB controversy and Josh doesn’t feel threatened every time he makes a mistake. The worst scenario that could unfold is that Josh under-performs this year and the team goes with Orlovsky as his backup. While I think next years crop of QB’s is better, the team almost has to draft someone this week to compete for the backup spot, unless Weber has developed over the past year enough to compete.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:07 am
Ohh and I like Tyler Bray in the 5th round. Dude has a cannon for an arm.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:08 am
Yes Jeff because you know quarterbacks. If you knew anything you wouldn’t have tried to play in the NFL loser. There’s water boys I’ll take more advice on than you.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:09 am
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April 21st, 2013 at 10:10 am
@Mike J: I’m right there with you. Manuel is awful. I’m sure he could put together a good film reel, but anyone who’s watched the guy play entire games knows he’s a fraud. 5th year senior that played like a freshman many many many times in 2012.
@BucGator: If its a 1, 3 and a 5, then we’ll all know just how desperate Dom is. Actually, they can have a 5th round pick. Dom would waste that on some chump anyways. But a 1st and a 3rd for a cancer who’s going to hold out next season for money just isn’t worth it, in my opinion.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:10 am
I love this comment from espn:
“FireWilpon
I hate being a Jets fan, and I hate Woody Johnson. The 13th pick in this draft will not be as good as Darrelle Revis. The first pick in this draft will not be as good as darrelle revis. Draft picks are just lottery tickets. The Jets won the lottery, and are trading their winnings for more tickets.
Unbelievable.”
April 21st, 2013 at 10:10 am
also, good thing ron cooper moved on…
April 21st, 2013 at 10:14 am
Like I’ve said all along…
A Revis trade means Ronde returns.
Looks like Ronde will be a Buc again in 2013!
April 21st, 2013 at 10:24 am
I think we all know what happens when we get them in the door we use that Jedi mind trick and they don’t leave. Welcome to Tampa Revis playoff bound 2013
April 21st, 2013 at 10:26 am
@Snook,
The Jets have included provisions in his last contract (that HE SIGNED) that penalized him if he held out, so it’s very conceivable the Bucs would do the same as well. Would like to see ANY proof (though you seem more like an emotions person than someone that relies on facts) that Revis has EVER been a cancer to any team he’s been on. The guy is described by most as a tireless worker, great teammate and leader, and a backfield of Golson, Barron, Revis, Wright (& Barber in nickel) is a MASSIVE improvement from last year. Revis is a proven commodity in the NFL, while picks are not.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:28 am
They sent the private jet to pick him up you know its game over now
April 21st, 2013 at 10:28 am
@FLBoy84:
Any player that holds out because of a contract is a cancer.
Revis has done it 3 times.
And I have no doubts about Revis’ abilities. But his knee is coming off surgery. And my biggest point all along…. THE JETS HAVE ZERO LEVERAGE.
I’ll no doubt welcome Revis to the team and be glad he’s a Buc. I just don’t want to see Dom overpay for him.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:38 am
Okay…here’s the deal…nodeal offered to Revis yet.
So stop assuming $16 million per year. He will get $10 million per year, $15 mill bonus and $20 million guaranteed with incentives.
Jets will get this years 13th, 6th & next years 4th.
Just guessing.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:39 am
Revis=Playoffs. No way. EJ Manuel is a poor man’s Freeman. Nothing more.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:40 am
Nope! If we trade for revis then no one will be happy…everyone wants BPA and u can’t get the best player available until you kno his health.look at Derrick rose-been out over a year with acl tear.obviously the only logical way to fix this is draft tavon austin of course.then we at least have a kick returner and a 3rd string wideout.after that we realize Doug Martin isn’t good enough to be the focal point of the offense and we fire Dom and Josh.only way I see everyone happy in the end…
April 21st, 2013 at 10:42 am
leverage or not, the jets will have a minimum return that they will want, just like anything else. the bucs will give up what they consider fair to themselves…it is about what the bucs see as value.
they obviously wanted him here this year and didn’t want to risk competing with other teams next year, or him possibly taking less to go elsewhere.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:44 am
Odd that no other team is interested in aquiring Revis. Just the pop star bidding against himself. I guess that Dom is admitting his drafts have been a bust.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:45 am
ok joes, time to wake up. bucs news is happening. the rays game isn’t for another 3 hours, btw. 🙂
April 21st, 2013 at 10:46 am
Snook, exactly!! E.J. didn’t look any better as a senior than he did in that Gator Bowl game.Same guy.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:46 am
Snook, you are so full of crap.
You assume you know the terms of the trade before the player has even taken a physical.
Also, Revis has not held out 3 times. You’re being a bit dramatic.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:46 am
I guess you just like to make stuff up, huh, mtm.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:47 am
Agree with the leverage part and not overpaying. No one other than the Bucs and Jets has any idea what the compensation will be. Believe the 1st, 3rd & 5th is conjecture and more related to people looking at the Percy Harvin trade and going from there. Curious to see how it unfolds though I’m not as concerned with the picks simply because we have no idea how they’ll turn out. And if they’re spread out over this year and next even better.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:48 am
Or the other teams know they can’t outbid the Bucs.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:49 am
Trade framework in place now.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:51 am
via rotoworld:
“Yahoo! Sports’ Jason Cole reports the Jets and Bucs have already agreed on compensation in the Darrelle Revis trade, and a deal should be finalized Sunday night or Monday.
Cole adds that the Bucs and Revis have agreed on a “basic contract,” as well. Revis is set to hop on a plane en route to Tampa Bay in roughly 15 minutes to take a physical with the Bucs as the last step in the process. The Jets will likely get the No. 13 overall pick in Thursday’s draft, along with a couple of other mid- to late-round selections. Adjust your mock drafts accordingly. Related: Buccaneers
Source: Jason Cole on Twitter Apr 21 – 10:29 AM”
April 21st, 2013 at 10:52 am
Snook. I guess u feel players like breeze and penn are cancers.
April 21st, 2013 at 10:56 am
@mcBuc
And Emmitt Smith, what a HUGE cancer in the locker room.
April 21st, 2013 at 11:01 am
Chris johnson too. There have been tons of olayers. I forgot abou emmit.
April 21st, 2013 at 11:02 am
“And giving extra draft picks to that front office is like giving a weed-whacker to a hyperactive five-year-old.” And the responses start rolling in.
BTW, what was this original article about again?
April 21st, 2013 at 11:04 am
Guys, Joe apoligizes. Having major computer issues and have been trying to upload a story for about an hour.
Yes, Joe knows all about Revis flying to Tampa on Team Glazer’s private plane.
April 21st, 2013 at 11:08 am
Jets could have avoided all of this if they would have dealt with this issue two years ago instead of handing Sanchez a huge contract. From a salary cap standpoint I’m not too worried. Not many GM’s pay closer attention to he dollars than Dominik. He’s always looking years down the road. He knows what it will cost to keep Freeman and McCoy in the coming years and will plan accordingly.
For those saying that we aren’t close enough to be making a deal like this, says who? Take a look at the QB’s and WR’s in our division, we aren’t going anywhere fast until we can slow them down.
April 21st, 2013 at 11:11 am
Maybe Joe is in route to TIA to acquire a pic of Revis getting off the plane before he posts an article on the subject. Or maybe he just passed out in shock that this may be actually going down finally. Go Bucs and Go Dom for having the Balls to pull this off.
April 21st, 2013 at 11:12 am
And we get to bury the NYJ in the opener. Should be fun start to season.
Revis, if healthy, is a tremendous addition to our team. Think back to last year and the games we would have won if Revis was playing.
NYG don’t beat us.
Philly doesn’t.
Brees doesn’t throw for 700 yds in that throwback game.
He could certainly be the 1 pt difference in our home loss to Atlanta.
He’s that good.
April 21st, 2013 at 11:18 am
Revis may not be ready by the season opener.
April 21st, 2013 at 11:22 am
jason cole just reported jets and bucs agreed on a trade and revis is in town right now for a physical….
April 21st, 2013 at 11:23 am
wow…i was hoping we could keep the 13th pick, trade back for more picks then give up our first round to the jets
April 21st, 2013 at 11:23 am
Ok where to start, YES this makes the bucs a playoff team if you haters remember we lost 6 games with leads in the 4th qtr and 3 with leads with less than 3 minutes left , if adding a probowl safety and a probowl cb don’t help with that then what will. WithRevis and wright we have a good tandem at cb, and with golson playing the deep free it allows baron to play hos natural spot down around the line of scrimmage (where they had put ronde last year because of his lack of speed). As far as Freeman, you can’t tell me that losing games over and over when you gave your squad the lead late didn’t start to have an affect and make him press and try to put the ball where it shouldnt go. You Freeman hters kill me you do realize he holds all the franchise records at the age of 24 right? For about an hour the jets thought that Freeman was going there in a sanchez/revis for freeman and a pick deal and they were losing their minds for him. Does he have consistency issues, yes but who doesn’t at 24 , it took Eli 5 yrs to start playing decent and the year before he won his first superbowl he led the league in pics. We can all agree that Olsen was a joke and that now that free is in the same system for 2 yrs in a row with a good oc then he should take another step forward
April 21st, 2013 at 11:27 am
Breaking news: Jets have allowed Bucs to have medical team examine him.
Per Jason Cole of Yahoo Sports; Bucs and Jets have agreed on trade and the basics for a contract have been agreed on with Revis.
April 21st, 2013 at 11:40 am
Update says a deal is done and the details will be out later tonight or tomorrow am
April 21st, 2013 at 11:41 am
But common sense dictates that the Revis deal is contingent on the results of the physical exam.
April 21st, 2013 at 11:46 am
Wow surprised that there is no Revis update on Joe’s site??? Now there is actual positive news there isn’t a article, but I know Joe he’s cooking something up right now.
April 21st, 2013 at 11:58 am
JoeBucsFan….#1 Bucs site for breaking news…
April 21st, 2013 at 11:58 am
Jackk. Joe is having comp issues. It says it a few posts up. Hang in there.
April 21st, 2013 at 11:59 am
guess someone needs to bail this dude out of jail.
April 21st, 2013 at 12:05 pm
My only question at this point is in what year the picks are coming from. Obviously if the trade is going down now it’s our 1st for this year, I certainly hope whatever the mid round pick is it comes from next years draft, and then I would assume the 5th or 6th at the end of the deal will come from this year as well.
I don’t have a problem with draft pick compensation so long as not all the picks come out in one year. Really, really hoping the mid round pick is a 4th since we’ve been collecting them, but I’m afraid it will be a 3rd.
April 21st, 2013 at 12:11 pm
It will be 1st 4th and 5th or 6th. (My Guess)
April 21st, 2013 at 12:13 pm
Joe,
You are normally on point with being one of the first to give us Buccaneer news, but you really dropped the ball on this one. You even let the sorry excuse for a website pewter report beat you out on announcing Revis is in Tampa. Wow!!! Did you guys take today off or something???????
Dear A-hole. Joe’s goal is to work as hard has possible for his readers. First, second, third to a story, Joe doesn’t keep score. Joe’s here to be the most comprehensive source for Bucs fans. Joe knows he is, therefore Joe thinks you’re an ass. –Joe
April 21st, 2013 at 12:36 pm
@ bucsguy
Thank you.been saying that for months now.24 years old and the sky is the limit.no way we would’ve traded him without giving him another year.eli manning is the perfect example for a young qb who just needs another break.
Everyone relax…joe knows most info before we do so obviously his comp messed up
April 21st, 2013 at 12:39 pm
I’ll bet Joe is going nuts about this “computer” issue. Finally some actual facts about the Revis trade, and Joe has technical troubles. I feel for you Joe.
April 21st, 2013 at 12:42 pm
I’m guessing it is a 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd. 1st & 3rd in this years draft, second in next year’s.
April 21st, 2013 at 1:58 pm
@joe
that response was f-ing funny…hilarious. murphy’s law is a pain, no doubt, but sometimes these commenters/comments do need to be slapped down. kudos to you guys.