Jon Gruden Says Jameis Can Win A Super Bowl; Talks Coaching Desire
November 11th, 2017
New chatter from Chucky
It seems Chucky has no interest in killing any rumors that he’ll return to coach in the NFL.
Nearly nine years ago Jon Gruden was launched by Team Glazer after back-to-back 9-7 seasons. Chucky’s December 2008 collapse was unforgettable, capped by losing at home to JaMarcus Russell.
The rumors of him returning to coach swirl every year, but they are flowing particularly early this year, and Chucky seems to be showcasing himself.
Consider that Chucky is a showpiece of BSPN but he hopped on The Rich Eisen Show yesterday (a non-BSPN property) and was ready and eager to talk about coaching.
“It’s in your blood,” Chucky told Eisen when asked about returning to coaching and whether he entertains coaching inquiries. “You get some people calling maybe to see if you’re interested in coaching again and maybe if you can help recommend a couple of guys. I’m pretty much involved with every level of football every day of the week, so I try to help if I can. One of these days, who knows, Rich? One of these days, you never know.”
Eisen pressed Chucky and asked if he has a scenario in his mind that would prompt his return to the sidelines.
“You know what, I have talked to people in years past. I plan on just keeping my options open,” Chucky said. ” … If something comes along down the road, we’ll take a look at it.”
Eisen told Chucky how he sees former 49ers and Lions head coach Steve Mariucci light up on game days at NFL stadiums and yearn to be back in the game.
“It’s tough, man,” Chucky said. “You know, it’s tough, especially when you get around these players, you know. You get around them and sometimes you sit there and you go, ‘I wonder if I could help this kid. I wish I could try to help him. I wish I could do something to make a difference.’ But at the same time, I look at my job that way in broadcasting. I get to be a part of QB camp with all the young quarterbacks. I feel like I’m helping them a little bit. I do get a chance to prepare every week and hopefully do a decent job informing our viewers out there on the two teams that we have for Monday Night Football.”
Rather typical offseason Chucky chatter here, though he certainly seems a bit more interested in coaching than usual. And again, it feels awfully early in the football calendar for the annual Gruden speculation.
Enjoy the full audio below. In there, you’ll also here Chucky say America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, is a QB that can go the distance.
November 11th, 2017 at 12:36 pm
Hint Hint, Something may be brewing.
November 11th, 2017 at 12:42 pm
Gruden
We still haven’t recovered from that 4 game slide that proved your exit from coaching back 09.
November 11th, 2017 at 12:44 pm
The thought of Gruden coaching again makes me wanna vomit…..fans forget how many years him and his puppet GM Bruce Allen set this Franchise back by poor drafting and free agents they brought in………see examples like charlie garner and Tim Brown……..ughhhhhhhh!!!!
November 11th, 2017 at 12:45 pm
Called it after the loss to NO. Gruden will be back on these sidelines 2018. With Winston as his QB.
November 11th, 2017 at 12:46 pm
Yeah, I was at that game against the Raiders…..what a pathetic showing by Gruden and kiffen……hey, atleast my son had fun!!!! Lol!
November 11th, 2017 at 12:53 pm
I live just outside of Knoxville in Gatlinburg Tennessee. Rumor has it Chucky will be the the next head coach of your Tennessee Volunteers. According to #Grumors Vegas even has a line on it,last checked Chucky is odds on favorite to be headed to Rocky Top
November 11th, 2017 at 12:57 pm
I don’t want Gruden coaching the Bucs ever again! If we’re gonna dig in the closet of old coaches, then I’m pulling out TONY DUNGY! He’s what we need in Tampa. Period!
November 11th, 2017 at 12:57 pm
Chucky loves Jameis and is known as an offensive savant … he probably feels he could be doing a much better job with the offense than Koetter is … and he’s probably 100% right.
I’ve heard the perfect year for him to get back into coaching would be the 2020 season as his son will have just graduated high school and be off at college so Chucky won’t have any real family commitments to keep him at home … that would be Jameis’ 6th year in the league and likely his first under a brand new contract …
November 11th, 2017 at 12:57 pm
@Bring Tony Dungy back
BAAAAAAAWWWWWWWHAHAHAHA!!!!
OMG……that’s the funniest thing I have heard in a very long time.
Gruden has no patience for college athletes and would never subject himself to that.
Thanks for the laugh.
November 11th, 2017 at 12:58 pm
Totally agree jolly. Been saying it for weeks. Glazers need a splash. Bucs need a winner. This fan base will absolutely totally erupt if they announce the Gruden return. They will be that talk of football. And they will win 9-10 games year one
November 11th, 2017 at 12:58 pm
LOL….they were trying there best to not say “Tampa Bay”
November 11th, 2017 at 1:02 pm
Bucs should hire Bill Polian as President and let him figure out everything, GM, coaches, scouts etc..
November 11th, 2017 at 1:09 pm
Bill Polian is like 200 years old!!!
He sounds good on TV but doing it now in the current NFL is a totally different story.
November 11th, 2017 at 1:18 pm
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There is a very good article on-line right now, titled, “Dirk Koetter, the Special One, Jon Gruden, and the Bucs”.
The author seems to believe that the Glazers don’t care about the Bucs anywhere near as much as they do about their soccer club in England and that it’s still a long-shot that Koetter gets fired at all, as he’d be due a large buyout.
However, the author also seems to think that if Koetter is fired, the most likely Coach/GM tandem is … Jon Gruden … and … Michael Lombardi, the same Michael Lombardi that recently talked about Gruden replacing Koetter!
The plot thickens!
In full disclosure … the author also says that he personally would like to see Dungy replace Koetter if for no other reason than to get Peyton Manning as the new Offensive Coordinator and play-called and in order to have Dungy their to simply help Peyton transition into head coach in short order.
The author’s idea seems a little wild … I don’t see Tony Dungy returning to coaching and I also don’t see Peyton being a mere O.C. … I think Dungy’s done and Peyton wants to be the GM of the Colts.
My money’s on Chucky if Koetter is fired .. remember, just a few months ago Chucky was quoted in an article as saying,
“I feel like I’m still coaching. I feel like I could have gone out there today with a script. And then I saw JAMEIS WINSTON, and I was like, ‘Damn! I wish I had that guy!’ He’s a good player. A good player.”
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November 11th, 2017 at 1:19 pm
It’s not a joke to bring a laugh out of anyone. I don’t give a sh*t where he goes! If you say he has no patience for college athletes then he’d better stay in the booth and not even consider coming back! Especially to the Bucs sidelines!!! You wanna laugh, then how about rolling back the dvr to last Sunday’s game and that pathetic performance by the F’n mature athletes that we call our team… f Gruden
November 11th, 2017 at 1:20 pm
Gruden will do a better job simply because his system focuses more on quick strikes vs play action bombs. Gruden won with Gannon, Johnson, Griese and Garcia….He’ll win with Winston. Gruden was offensive coordinator with the Packers when Brett Favre was brought in….Favre developed fine.
As for his roster management….people forget the Glaziers provided him the 5th cheapest budget in the NFL the years after the Super Bowl while they were saving cash to purchase Manchester United and preparing for the lockout. Some would argue the Glaziers only wanted to “develop” a young QB so they could justify being cheap and Gruden is wired to win/build a legacy. They may have allowed him to try to keep winning as long as he worked within the budget he was given.
November 11th, 2017 at 1:28 pm
I think Gruden talks Farve into joining his staff next year as QB coach.
November 11th, 2017 at 1:28 pm
Lol.
This is the same exact thing we hear every year. Anyone who has played or coached will always miss the game.
But Gruden ain’t coming back. This is his schtick. Simple as that.
November 11th, 2017 at 1:30 pm
I can only see Gruden having success in Tampa if they hired a strong football mind to take over as VP of Football Operations and a strong GM to handle all personnel decisions. Gruden’s power would have to be limited to only coaching.
November 11th, 2017 at 1:35 pm
Also I don’t see Winston fitting in Gruden’s dink and dunk offense.
November 11th, 2017 at 1:37 pm
@ Bobby M
The Glazers had nothing to do with free agents or the draft.
Gruden only wanted seasoned vets during his coaching tenure and that’s part of what got him fired and that’s not developing players…..and this is not just my opinion but from many well respect people that’s been in the NFL for a long time.
Gruden personally picked all the players on the roster, Bruce Allen was just a puppet GM and never told gruden NO. Notice how gruden always thought that EVERY player was awesome????? He had this mentality that he couldn’t be touched after the Superbowl and that he could do no wrong. He was really power hungry and Arrogant. This all led to:
1. Not building through the draft
2. Not developing players
3. Bringing in washed up Free Agents like Tim Brown, Charlie Garner……….the list goes on.
But all Bucs fans see is Gruden in the Booth acting like the NFL’s biggest cheerleader and thinks that he’ll come here and be a savior………..highly unlikely. Remember, gruden also had Monte Kiffen all them years too. The Glory years died along time ago people…..time to move on
November 11th, 2017 at 1:37 pm
UF…not NFL…or maybe UT….I think his wife went there…players listen….no roster limit….pick you players ,rather talk hem into coming and play for you…I think if JG coaches again it’ll be college…
November 11th, 2017 at 1:39 pm
To be honest, I’d really prefer Dungy to Gruden. Not that Dungy is a better caoch. I’m talking about Dungy makin our Defense Tough again. Makin our Defense Knock an SOB on his A..! Look jameis will score points. But we gotta stop somebody..Hell, Anybody!!
November 11th, 2017 at 1:41 pm
^ I heard the Glazers completely hamstrung Gruden & Allen with an insanely low spending limit post-SB as they were saving up to buy their soccer club? Is that not true?
If it is true, how can any of your Bucs fans blame Chucky if he was working on a lesser budget than every other team due to the Glazers’ stinginess?
November 11th, 2017 at 1:41 pm
peeps here dont know anything about business
Glazers know about business and they know it will be a ghost town next year at 1 buc place with koetter as HC
NFL gifted Glazers the superbowl on 2021 at tampa….they demand a competitive team during that time…..20 million indoor stadium is purchased through playoff games
season seats/corporate endorsements&advertisements will be sold out with Grudog
“One time I bought ocean front property in lakeland florida…..You cant fool Kobe twice”
Kobe Faker
November 11th, 2017 at 1:55 pm
@Kobe Liar
That is why you will purchase ‘Bay front” property in lakeland the next time right!!!!!!!
It is laughable that some want a coach that has been out of coaching for 10 years!!!!!!!! Where were all the Gruden fans 10 years ago???????LOL!!!!!!!
GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 11th, 2017 at 1:58 pm
Another 7 seasons with Jon Gruden as Head Coach. Another 57-55 record, these Yucs will never learn.
November 11th, 2017 at 2:04 pm
How do you explain his success in Oakland then?….Same GM…Same coach.
November 11th, 2017 at 2:35 pm
Someone is getting the ax at the end of this season. Will it be Smith. Dirk or licht. That’s the question. One maybvw 2. Get fired.
November 11th, 2017 at 2:36 pm
Put your money where your mouth is “Chucky”. Don’t just talk chit!!! Come back to Tampa when your kid is DONE with school and PROVE it to the masses who don’t think JW will EVER win a SB. It’s NOT going to happen with THIS defense anyway. He is NOT going to win one on his TALENT alone. With our perpetual coaching carousel the Glazers will be ready to pay Dirk to leave AFTER this year IMO. Get the RIGHT GM to EVALUATE the players in the Draft and the TEAM will get better in a hurry. #WalkThePlank #BringBackMcKay
November 11th, 2017 at 2:37 pm
coach Gruden will not return to coaching NFL until his contract expires in 2021. He makes just as much yearly salary with ESPN as he will with coaching Football. He can’t go back to working 90 hours work week at this time. He also is involved with his son local High School football team. Until then the Owners need to start their search and obtain a coach who will hire the best defensive coordinator available.
November 11th, 2017 at 3:05 pm
It’s a smart play not to make it seem like Tampa is the only team he’d be open to coach because it’ll drive up the price. I could easily see him saying yes to the Giants who would probably be taking a quarterback in the next draft
November 11th, 2017 at 3:16 pm
The problem is that many fans, coaches, GM, and ownership are in denial that the Bucs badly need a youth movement. Many Bucs players are either on the wrong side of 30 years old or will be soon, and the front office should just rip the band aid off and start going ‘youngry’. This would mean building on the core players, like Jameis Winston, Mike Evans, and Kwon Alexander. We all thought that the team was just a few veteran signings away from a serious playoff push, but there is just no chemistry on this team. This relates to Coach Gruden because he probably wouldn’t have a lot of patience with a roster of very young players. On the other hand, he might do a better job in getting better veteran players. Can you imagine him with Chris Baker? And, I’m not sure that Gruden and GM Licht could co-exist.
November 11th, 2017 at 3:22 pm
“Gruden personally picked all the players on the roster”
“1. Not building through the draft
2. Not developing players
3. Bringing in washed up Free Agents like Tim Brown, Charlie Garner……….the list goes on.”
A bunch of washed free agents like Jeff Garcia, Warrick Dunn, Ike Hilliard, Dallas Clark…..the list goes on…..had us 9-3 in 2008 when our DC QUIT. Were they a talented juggernaut or was that a result of good coaching?
As to point #1, I point to the 2008 draft, Gruden’s last here. Since he picked all the players.
Rd 1 Pick 20: Talib. Borderline HOF. Check the resume.
Rd 3 Pick 83: Zuttah. Immediate contributor, future pro bowler.
Rd 5 Pick 160: Josh Johnson. 10 year career. He still plays.
Rd 6 : Geno Hayes. 40+ starts out of a round 6 pick.
His last draft here produced the best draft pick the franchise has seen since 97 when we got Talib at 20. If this is where you point as a guy’s biggest weakness, I’ll take that guy.
November 11th, 2017 at 3:34 pm
Hahaha. Says he’s gotten a few calls from some people. Might as well say the Glazer’s called me up, told me they are for sure not keeping Koetter, and said they want me back in 2018.
“You know, it’s tough, especially when you get around these players, you know. You get around them and sometimes you sit there and you go, ‘I wonder if I could help this kid. I wish I could try to help him. I wish I could do something to make a difference.”
“this kid” hint hint
He’s talked about how he would love to work with Jameis since he came into the league. To all the Gruden hater’s out there, all I know is that he is an offensive mastermind and him teaching Jameis the game could be a dream come true.
November 11th, 2017 at 3:51 pm
Polian/Dungy/Harbaugh
McKay/Dungy/Harbaugh
Didn’t Harbaugh turn around a bad 49ers team in a matter of days? (Exaggeration, but not that much.)
November 11th, 2017 at 4:27 pm
Koetter fired week 14. I can guarantee you what’s going to happen at halftime MNF week 15.
November 11th, 2017 at 4:28 pm
“Gruden personally picked all the players on the roster, Bruce Allen was just a puppet GM and never told gruden NO.”
Funny, in an interview just this year he said one of the biggest issues he had in TB was Allen’s power over the roster and Gruden’s inability to have an say over who TB took in the draft.
Just because you say it Anthem doesnt make it true 😉
November 11th, 2017 at 4:28 pm
Some of you guys must be new Bucs fans to not be really aware of what happened during Gruden’s last year.
Lane got a HC job, Monte jumped ship three quarters of the way through the season, Rod was gone, and the team fell a little short of the playoffs. It wasn’t as it is this year when the team just basically took a dump on the HC.
And I’ll give you a thought. If Jameis’s next coach isn’t good at developing a QB during this next coaching tenure, he will be a bust. Or at least won’t return to Tampa after his initial contract and may never develop anywhere. Book it. And Gruden could help Jameis develop into the QB he could be.
November 11th, 2017 at 4:31 pm
“Gruden personally picked all the players on the roster, Bruce Allen was just a puppet GM and never told gruden NO.”
Funny, in an interview just this year he said one of the biggest issues he had in TB was Allen’s power over the roster and Gruden’s inability to have an say over who TB took in the draft.
Just because you say it Anthem doesnt make it true 😉 Ahaha
November 11th, 2017 at 4:54 pm
@ PRBucFan
“Funny, in an interview just this year he said one of the biggest issues he had in TB was Allen’s power over the roster and Gruden’s inability to have an say over who TB took in the draft.
Just because you say it Anthem doesnt make it true Ahaha”
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…………..okay, it is a WELL KNOWN FACT that Gruden spouted off at the mouth about things he didn’t like, so when it comes to the draft during them dark years, I’m sure the glass was “half empty and half full”. If you really think that Gruden was sitting somewhere in the dark in the Corner of the draft room and not giving any input at all….then that’s very foolish to think that way. You know for a fact he had his say in choices…..Gruden’s problem and lust for power is that he wanted 100% control of everything and I’m sure he wanted the final word. We can agree to disagree but I bet 9 times outta 10, Gruden got his wish, just like how signed Charlie garner, tim brown, joey Galloway, and mccardell (loved joey).
I truly feel sorry for any team if Gruden ever came back to coaching……….because he’s going to be a clown there like he was here in Tampa after the SB.
I’d rather see old retreads like Rex Ryan and Brian Billick patrolling the TB sidelines versus Chucky and those two names make my stomach want to do flips and go run to the toilet and vomit!!!
Enough with Gruden talk already.
If the Glazers really, really, really want to pick a coach, they need to pick someone that is an up and coming riser in the NFL…..someone who is innovative and his system works.
November 11th, 2017 at 4:56 pm
Why should Gruden quell the chatter? Like most of his stature, and in his business where everything is negotiated and speculation on makes his price go up, up and up, he’d not say a word. And of course, it’s not his call to initiate anyway. I think the whole point of the Glazers putting him into the Bucs Ring of Honer was to close the door on that era, in favor a new one (that isn’t panning out they thought, like none of us likely thought).
If the Bucs are serious about getting a winning coach, they should go after Josh McDaniels in two or three years (when Brady hangs it up) if Dirk proves he can’t do it.
But Gruden? No. Ain’t happening.
November 11th, 2017 at 4:58 pm
PR
Yeah Anthem is a lost cause. Kid has no clue. He also says the glazers had no say in any moves. News flash. The owners of every business have plenty of say in most stuff. The glazers arent in the public eye but are definitely involved, especially more than banthem thinks. Research it before you spew it anthem.
November 11th, 2017 at 5:01 pm
[Accusing a Bucs player of committing a felony can and will get you run. — Joe]
November 11th, 2017 at 5:02 pm
He won a Super Bowl here….clown.
November 11th, 2017 at 5:04 pm
Roy…two or three years? Sure…watch Jameis swirl down the drain and have to start all over again. If Jameis seemed to really be a step ahead of last year, I’d say you might have a point. But in two or three years of what we have had the last few years, and he will be labeled a bust. We have to get this situation straightened out NOW.
November 11th, 2017 at 5:06 pm
darin Says:
November 11th, 2017 at 4:58 pm
“PR
Yeah Anthem is a lost cause. Kid has no clue. He also says the glazers had no say in any moves. News flash. The owners of every business have plenty of say in most stuff. The glazers arent in the public eye but are definitely involved, especially more than banthem thinks. Research it before you spew it anthem.”
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Yeah right, ok…..so I guess the Glazers are always calling the GM and telling the coach to get all these players right? So what is the point of a GM or personnel department? Obviously, they are the owners and give opinions, but they let the people they hire TO DO THEIR JOB. You obviously think the glazers are like the Daniel Snyders or Jerry Jones where they’re 100% hands on everything….it’s never been like that with the Glazers. Where you even around when Malcom Glazer acquired the team??????
November 11th, 2017 at 5:08 pm
Jamies+Gruden=Jimmy likeys
November 11th, 2017 at 5:11 pm
PR:
Joe has spoken with people who were in draft room. Chucky had significant influence.
November 11th, 2017 at 5:12 pm
mark2001 Says:
November 11th, 2017 at 5:02 pm
“He won a Super Bowl here….clown.”
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….with dungy’s team and the defense he created along with Monte Kiffen.
Yeah, his winning percentage was barely over 50 % during his tenure here,,,but yeah, he’s so Great???????……………
Mark Alstott<—————-you gotta love it when gruden said that!!!!!!
November 11th, 2017 at 5:12 pm
What all the pro-Gruden posters seem to forget was that Gruden’s team won the Super Bowl with what could be termed an “ordinary” quarterback, Brad Johnson. Brad was very competent but was not someone who could carry the team on his back, as Jameis has had to do. In those days, the defense carried the team, with Sapp, Brooks, Barber and Lynch leading the way. How could you lose with 4 Hall of Fame-level defensive players? Back then, if the Bucs were ahead by one score with ten minutes to play, the game was all but over. We don’t have that same defensive advantage today. You could put Ryan Fitzpatrick at QB on that Bucs team and still have won the Super Bowl.
There is nothing Gruden can do that Koetter is not already doing. Get real, people, and get a stellar defense on our team. Then we can talk Gruden if you like.
November 11th, 2017 at 5:12 pm
People seem to forget that Gruden’s tenure coincided with having an idiot GM (who oftentimes went against Gruden on draft day) and being in “salary cap hell”. While other posters are trying to get us to remember how Gruden set this franchise back, I’m remembering him getting us to 9 wins 4 times with rosters that shouldn’t have won but 2 or 3 games. Just imagine what he could do with actual talent.
November 11th, 2017 at 5:18 pm
I got Anthems back on this one.
A lot of Tampa sports reports have said that the Glazers stay out of the way of football decisions. I’m talking about the radio guy and those guys tend to know a bit more then the average fan about these things.
He’s right about Gruden too which was also reported. Joe is even saying it a few posts above. If you read the site you should know the Joes know more about behind the scene things then we do and surely a lot we don’t hear about that’s off record.
November 11th, 2017 at 5:19 pm
Jamies+Gruden=Jimmy likey
November 11th, 2017 at 5:22 pm
“Joe Says:
November 11th, 2017 at 5:11 pm
PR:
Joe has spoken with people who were in draft room. Chucky had significant influence.”
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THANK YOU JOE ………….for speaking up.
Fans have clearly forgotten about the Gruden years.
I WAS THERE at that last game against raiders when the bucs went 9-7.
Fans were angry….. screaming for GRUDEN TO GO…….(yes some fans were drunk) but the people I talked to in the stands were all just feed up with Chucky and his antics. People were upset Monte Kiffen was leaving……INFACT, alot of fans liked and wanted Monte Kiffen at that point to be the head coach of the Bucs…….but he left with his son Lane.
Only Bucs fans who were there thru all this can remember all these little details.
November 11th, 2017 at 5:25 pm
Seminole Bill……That has to be an all time disgusting post.
How dare you diminish Brad Johnsons season in 2002. Quite the low blow to say Ryan Fitz could have done the same thing. Not a lot of QB would have even made it through that season B. Johnson had.
Then you proceed to say Gruden can’t do anymore for this team then Dirk is doing. That is just a disgusting take. You are disgusting
November 11th, 2017 at 5:26 pm
The Bucs mortgage the future for before Gruden got of the plane
Two 1st Round Draft Picks
Two 2nd Round Picks
November 11th, 2017 at 5:26 pm
“Joe has spoken with people who were in draft room. Chucky had significant influence.”
Gotcha, I guess it wasn’t enough of a say to satisfy him. He was speaking about the year Brian Westbrook was drafted in 2002 and about how Allen ended up picking a WR Marquise Walker with Westbrook still on the board and as a RB a pick later he got a guy called Travis Stephens.
But I don’t think the Bucs are a lucky enough for something like Gruden coming back to happen anywho so it’s all mute to me anyways.
November 11th, 2017 at 5:27 pm
Kobe Faker is spot on. The Glazers are all bout that bottom line..Money. And they know for next yr they gotta get the crowds back. They gotta hire a Mr. Dynamic as coach. They gotta create HOPE. If Koetter cannot get at least 5 or 6 wins this yr? He’s outta here. And one big blowout? Pack your bags baby!
November 11th, 2017 at 5:33 pm
PR……I think you may have a few facts wrong about Gruden. Your talking 2002 and saying Allen but in 2002 McKay was our GM.
After Gruden ran off McKay it’s been widely accepted that Gruden was the guy calling the shot and Allen was little more then a paper pusher.
November 11th, 2017 at 5:37 pm
Get him a badass gm and we win a super bowl
November 11th, 2017 at 5:42 pm
“JimmyJack Says:
November 11th, 2017 at 5:33 pm
PR……I think you may have a few facts wrong about Gruden. Your talking 2002 and saying Allen but in 2002 McKay was our GM.
After Gruden ran off McKay it’s been widely accepted that Gruden was the guy calling the shot and Allen was little more then a paper pusher.”
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Yes! Your are 100% spot on!!!!
There was an internal power struggle between McKay and Gruden and since Gruden won the SB…..he got his wish and brought his beloved puppet master of a GM Bruce Allen.
Many times….even in the media…people were saying who is going to be the “Checks and Balances” in the power for selecting and choosing players and everyone pretty much knew that Gruden was calling the shots.
November 11th, 2017 at 5:42 pm
We play the Falcons on Monday Night and I can’t wait. I will be hanging on Chuckys every word like a starry eyed 1940’s school girl listening to her favorite weekly radio program!!
Listening to Chucky dissect and analyze Our Bucs may very well be the best moment of the season.
November 11th, 2017 at 5:44 pm
I was just writing a post to correct that about that years draft but he still spoke specifically about how Allen’s say in the roster and his experience with him and the one with McKay before that is the main reason he will make sure if & when he comes back it will only be if he he’s guaranteed that type of things won’t happen again.
November 11th, 2017 at 5:44 pm
McKay was still the GM in 2002.
November 11th, 2017 at 5:49 pm
Indeed
November 11th, 2017 at 5:51 pm
I don’t know PR…..You are saying Allen had a lot of power. Our local sports guys reported it differently and even Joe is saying that wasn’t the case. Given the fact that Joe and other media members get access to the team behind the scenes I’ll have to take their word over yours.
I really don’t see how it’s an argument TBH
November 11th, 2017 at 5:56 pm
I mean it really doesn’t mater to me who you believe Jimmy. Not that serious for me.
They choose to not believe Gruden when he says he didn’t have the say he wanted. I choose to believe him.
You choose their words over mine and I’ll choose his words over theirs.
Joe says he had “significant influence” based on who he spoke with. Maybe it wasn’t significant enough to him?
Regardless we can agree to disagree. I’ll leave it at that.
November 11th, 2017 at 6:02 pm
@ PRBucFan
Well I would tend to believe Joe and others with inside media access cause they do have an inside track……..especially since he brought Ira Kaufman on board who is my favorite bucs journalist (sad when he went to cover carolina)……and Ira Kaufman has given us Bucs fans many years of valuable insights and knowledge and knows alot more than many others ever will in regards to the Bucs and coverage.
November 11th, 2017 at 6:02 pm
I guess PR I just can’t believe Gruden would say that and be talking about the years in Tampa with Allen. The Glazers pretty much gave Gruden full control of the team at that time. Allen was Grudens guy, he basically hired him. He probably could have even had him fired at some point if he wished.
I don’t see how Gruden could want any more control then he had here in Tampa post-McKay years……….Maybe the comments you heard were about some of his other years as a HC? Under McKay or Davis maybe?
November 11th, 2017 at 6:08 pm
I like Gruden…….but as I recall……the Bucs had the worst post Superbowl victory record 2 years after winning it all of any team ever…….still better than anything we’ve had since he left……I guess?
November 11th, 2017 at 6:09 pm
The only thing we know for sure is Gruden took a 14 TD 13 INT QB in 2001 and made him a 25 TD 6 INT guy in 2002.
Oh, and we know Gruden was the one who selected Keenan, Dilger, Pittman, Jenkins, and half of the rest of the 2002 offense. That was Gruden with a say in personnel.
How’d that work out?
2nd round pick for Gaines Adams? 2nd round pick for Booger McFarland. Better or worse than getting a 4th for Talib or a 7th and a sprinter for Blount. Joey Galloway with 5 years of tread left on the tires for a sluggish 2004 era Keyshawn? Brilliant. Lets just ignore the fact this current regime has dropped Giants defensive captain Castillas, Redskins defensive captain Swearinger, and Seahawks defensive captain Bennett each on their collective asses and not gotten a thing for any of them.
The good old days weren’t so bad. What’s been hell is 2009-now. What the hell happened in or around 2009 that this franchise has been unable to recover from?
Wait, what were we talking about again? I smell toast.
November 11th, 2017 at 6:14 pm
“Gerald McRuud Says:
November 11th, 2017 at 6:09 pm
The only thing we know for sure is Gruden took a 14 TD 13 INT QB in 2001 and made him a 25 TD 6 INT guy in 2002.
Oh, and we know Gruden was the one who selected Keenan, Dilger, Pittman, Jenkins, and half of the rest of the 2002 offense. That was Gruden with a say in personnel.
How’d that work out?”
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Great post
2nd round pick for Gaines Adams? 2nd round pick for Booger McFarland. Better or worse than getting a 4th for Talib or a 7th and a sprinter for Blount. Joey Galloway with 5 years of tread left on the tires for a sluggish 2004 era Keyshawn? Brilliant. Lets just ignore the fact this current regime has dropped Giants defensive captain Castillas, Redskins defensive captain Swearinger, and Seahawks defensive captain Bennett each on their collective asses and not gotten a thing for any of them.
The good old days weren’t so bad. What’s been hell is 2009-now. What the hell happened in or around 2009 that this franchise has been unable to recover from?
Wait, what were we talking about again? I smell toast.
November 11th, 2017 at 6:19 pm
Well it doesn’t seem to matter. They are saying Dirk should get job security if he wins 3 more games. I guess the standards in TB are so low that winning the big games doesn’t matter so long as you just have a few wins to finish out the season and save face.
November 11th, 2017 at 6:27 pm
@ Gerald McRuud
You know bucs fans today talk about DJAX and his speed…..BUT Joey Galloway was one of the fastest footballers to ever grace an NFL field as a WR.
I couldn’t believe how much separation he got between DBs.
I think if you lined up a race between both DJAX and Joey Galloway in their prime………….Joey would DEFINITELY win that race.
Joey Galloway 40 time : 4.18
Desean Jackson 40 time : 4.35
Bo Jackson supposedly 40 time: 4.12 (yikes!!)
.
November 11th, 2017 at 6:28 pm
Standards are indeed pitiful in TB Jimmy. That we can agree on.
November 11th, 2017 at 6:29 pm
People here not giving Grudog his due and acknowgling his achievements,. -,
November 11th, 2017 at 6:30 pm
Oops my bad
November 11th, 2017 at 6:38 pm
We are on the eve of a football game and fans show more interest in past and future coaches.
It’s pretty dang sad when fans right now care more about front office decisions then the actual game. It kinda feels like tomorrow isn’t even about winning or losing it’s about not being thoroughly embarrassed……again. Being a Buc fan requires a lot of blind hope but this is one point in time where this franchise truly seems hopeless.
November 11th, 2017 at 6:39 pm
And how short some of your memories are.
McKay was a dead man walking when he wanted Marvin Lewis and the Glazers pulled the rug out from under him and did the Gruden deal.
And let’s not forget that when Allen came, the salary cap bill became due and we were in a mess regarding that.
I never said give Gruden the GM position. In fact, I think he overrates some players…and Allen was a cap guy, not a personnel guy. I don’t know how the personnel decisions were made regarding Licht decision making power during his tenure, but we definitely need to straighten out the strange FA and Draft issues.
And Frankly, whether Gruden called Mike or Mark should make no difference to Mike, because I’m sure when he looks at his SB ring, it is rather irrelevant…unless it is misspelled on his SB ring somewhere.
And don’t forget the hatchet job some local media personalities did on Gruden. Frankly, as a whole, we went with them and have regretted it for a decade.
November 11th, 2017 at 6:46 pm
Frankly, I spend a lot of time with Packer fans…and most thought we were idiots to cut Gruden lose. But then, what do they know about football in Green Bay?
November 11th, 2017 at 6:47 pm
I meant loose, of course. And all we have done since we cut Gruden is lose.
November 11th, 2017 at 7:19 pm
“JimmyJack Says:
November 11th, 2017 at 6:38 pm
We are on the eve of a football game and fans show more interest in past and future coaches.
It’s pretty dang sad when fans right now care more about front office decisions then the actual game. It kinda feels like tomorrow isn’t even about winning or losing it’s about not being thoroughly embarrassed……again. Being a Buc fan requires a lot of blind hope but this is one point in time where this franchise truly seems hopeless.”
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I think you’re 100% correct.
The games are now about putting the work in for next year and it’s very depressing concerning all of the hype.
What’s really sad…..is that this team cannot even establish an identity. As a bucs fan, I cannot say we’re all about offense or defense………we just flat out suck right now.
We are the Tampa Bay “Browns” of the NFC now and it really magnifies how bad we are because we have talented players on both sides of the ball.
Coaches coach and players play……..and we all know this
BUT
There is something fundamentally wrong with this team right now and I know Koetter and Licht are both trying to figure out what it is and fix it.
Man! It’s mentally exhausting being a Bucs fan!!!! 🙁
November 11th, 2017 at 7:19 pm
Stay away Chucky, this moronic fan base does not deserve you….
Keep on enjoying those fabulous post Chucky years you losers.
November 11th, 2017 at 7:44 pm
It’s the same thing every year. And he always says the same sort of things. He’ll never rule it out, but when the job is offered he ALWAYS turns it down. He does not want to leave broadcasting.
At all.
November 11th, 2017 at 7:44 pm
Jon Gruden
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2002 12-4
2003 7-9
2004 5-11
2005 11-5
2006 4-12
2007 9-7
2008 9-7
Bucs fans certainly don’t deserve this
November 11th, 2017 at 7:49 pm
And people are begging to get him back
It must be in the water
November 11th, 2017 at 7:51 pm
NFLNut Says
“I heard the Glazers completely hamstrung Gruden & Allen with an insanely low spending limit post-SB as they were saving up to buy their soccer club?”
WRONG.
People need to study their history more.
Gruden and Allen were here during the time that the holdout was looming. Most of the owners were cutting spending as a strategy. They figured if the players made less money, they would not hold out as long.
It lasted longer than expected because the CBA got a 2 year extension, but as soon as the holdout was over, the spending started again. That’s not a coincidence.
November 11th, 2017 at 7:57 pm
Lakeland…salary cap hell…aging team….a McKay sabotage draft on his way out…. losing your beloved D coordinator in the middle of the season….Glazers refusing to spend money in those years with their Soccer franchise demands….yeah…considering it all, those years look a H a lot better than what we are doing now. I remember Allen promising we were going to spend big money on FA’s and we spent squat. Do you think that is what the HC and GM wanted?
November 11th, 2017 at 7:58 pm
NFC South Champs, NFC Champs and Super Bowl Champs in 2002
NFC South Champa in 2005 and 2007
Yep, u morons don’t deserve a good coach. Enjoy all the great past and future accomplishments after Chucky.
Dumbest, most ignorant, and ungrateful fan base in the league.
November 11th, 2017 at 8:01 pm
Look… I was a big fan of Mikey…grew up down state from him in Illinois. But Gruden made the right calls regarding his use and we won a SB. Wish Warrick Dunn had been here those years, but seems many were more upset about Mike not being used enough than they were that Dunn left. I wonder why that was?
November 11th, 2017 at 8:04 pm
But Eric…Gruden PO’d the ego of some local sports personalities. And told players one thing, changed his mind and did something different. You know that is the kiss of death,…better to have a beloved coach that the players love that said “we have to play better” and never got us to the promised land or actually exceeded the record expectation of the team, in light of their talent.
November 11th, 2017 at 8:06 pm
Like I said
It must be in the water
November 11th, 2017 at 8:08 pm
@Buc Bonzai
The Glazers were purchase shares from 2003 into 2005, and that was when they had huge interest payments and did many refinancing and leveraging to keep everything afloat!!!!!
It is well know during that time from 2004 on that the Glazers was the lowest paid organizations in the league!!!! even rumors that they had only half the scouts that other franchises had in the league!!!!!!! that dates and payments and loans are all right here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glazer_ownership_of_Manchester_United
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 11th, 2017 at 8:14 pm
The buc sheep not giving grudog his rightful credit
The tampa bay vs oakland was unbelievable and probably never happen ever again when 1 head coach had so much input and responsible of both teams making it to the superbowl…never ever will happen again. Ever
Grudog completely built that oakland team.
So the buc sheep is screaming the mighty dungy defense was the reason they won the superbowl
What did tampa bay ever win without jon gruden? You sheep should be ashamed!
The mighty defense won the superbowl?
THAT WAS GRUDOGS DEFENSE THAT CREATED THAT BLOWOUT. GRUDOG KNEW EVERY WEAKNESS OF OAKLANDS OFFENSE.
Grudog was teaching and his planning toward the tampa defense CREATED THAT BLOWOUT WIN
GRUDOG DESERVED MORE CREDIT WITH THE DEFENSE THAN KIPPEN
YOU SHEEP NEED TO BE ON YOUR KNEES AND PRAY FOR FORGIVENESS
November 11th, 2017 at 8:15 pm
Realist…I specifically remember Allen promising big FA spending was coming to make up for some of the deficiencies on the team. And then we spent squat. That is a pretty clear sign of someone at the highest levels putting the kibosh on things. Who thinks Allen would say such a thing unless he had high expectations that the money was going to be available, and when it didn’t appear, he ended up looking like a fool?
November 11th, 2017 at 8:18 pm
Kobe…Sluggo Seam…Sluggo Seam. I’ll never forget.
November 11th, 2017 at 8:24 pm
Ouch!
All caps hurts eyes
November 11th, 2017 at 8:27 pm
Kobe,
It’s really weird
The Raiders got him fired
Tampa Bay Bucs 9-6
Win over the Raiders and Clinch a Wildcard berth
Raiders win 31-24 in Tampa
Bucs finish 9-7
Philadelphia Eagles
8-6-1
Need a Bucs loss to stay alive
Eagles beat Cowboys 44-6
Win wildcard berth
Jon Gruden fired as HC of Tampa bay Buccaneers
After losing at home to the 4-11 Raiders
November 11th, 2017 at 8:31 pm
Kobe Faker lives in Lakeland
We dont drink water, we drink beer
Lakeland, you need to move back to lakeland…your posts are confusing us
November 11th, 2017 at 8:33 pm
Lol
November 11th, 2017 at 8:33 pm
How many playoff appearances since Jon was fired?
Not even a wild card.
Arguably the worst team in pro football over that time period……
Enjoy! It was you simpletons that ran him out of town to begin with. So glad you got your way……maybe we can go on another 8 year dry spell under your supreme leadership and football acumen.
November 11th, 2017 at 8:36 pm
Kobe…. Marinelli was gone…Kiffen bolted to join his son. How many successful teams overcame the later? Frankly, at the time I really though Monte was an Ass for doing that to us as he did instead of waiting till the end of the season. The D under performed that year. And strange that TD’s Offenses under performed and cost us championships for years, until we let him go.
November 11th, 2017 at 8:40 pm
CHUCKY DEAL IS DONE. He’ll be coaching the Bucs next year.
How else can you explain the Tennessee Vols deal not being done? Gruden was making several trips there and they apparently offered him $10M/year. He was rumored to be ready to sign…
THEN WHAT HAPPENED?
It’s simple… the Bucs KEPT LOSING.
He held up on taking the Vols deal because he knows the Bucs job is now there for the taking and I’m sure the Glazers are ready to give it to him.
November 11th, 2017 at 8:42 pm
NFC South South Standing
Week 13
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 9-3
Carolina Panthers 9-3
Atlanta Falcons 8-4
New Orleans Saints 6-6
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Remaining Schedule
Carolina Panthers (loss)
Atlanta Falcons (loss)
San Diego Chargers (loss)
Oakland Raiders (loss)
NFC South Standings
Carolina Panthers 12-4
Atlanta Falcons 11-5
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 9-7
New Orleans Saints 8-8
November 11th, 2017 at 8:42 pm
Eric…some can’t handle the truth. They believed their media messiah’s that hand a stiffie for Gruden at the time and cheered when he was canned. And most haven’t learned anything since then.
November 11th, 2017 at 8:46 pm
Lakeland…that doesn’t mean anything. Did you notice when Monte walked out the door? He jammed us all. And he is still chasing Lane around the country, trying to help him become a real coach. Ever notice what a guy of his importance in the organization leaves during the season? That side of the ball often falters. JG should have had one more year, at least.
November 11th, 2017 at 8:46 pm
What did the Bucs give up for Jon Gruden
Two 1st round draft picks
Two 2nd round draft picks
$8,000,000 in cash
For a one year wonder
November 11th, 2017 at 8:47 pm
Well said mark2001.
I’ve been fighting these folks for years on here. I should just realize the moronically inclined cannot be cured.
November 11th, 2017 at 8:47 pm
Jon Gruden
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7 seasons
57-55
I wouldn’t confuse him with Vince Lombardi
November 11th, 2017 at 8:48 pm
Go “U” !!!!
November 11th, 2017 at 8:49 pm
@ Lakeland
Well said bruh
November 11th, 2017 at 8:51 pm
Chucky can’t wait to eat some W’s with Jaboo!
November 11th, 2017 at 8:52 pm
Lakeland…as John Madden said at that time…that SB victory was worth all those picks and that money. No one in their right mind can hate that deal.
November 11th, 2017 at 8:54 pm
Joe, I agree. Chucky was more receptive to the idea than in years past. He shot down rumors pretty fiercely 2 to 3 years ago, he shot them down with less intensity last year, but he’s not even shooting them down now. If Chucky once again roamed the sidelines for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I wouldn’t complain at all. Knowing what I now know, I would be much more forgiving with 9-7 seasons with Chucky. Self-admittedly, I called for Dungy’s head, cheered the Chucky trade, celebrated SB37 like a mofo, and then called for Chucky’s head after 9-3 ended as 9-7 in 2008. I was wrong. Chucky is the real deal. You never need to worry about the man losing the locker room or players loafing under his watch.
Unrelated, I was just watching an NFL video with Kay Adams. Had nothing to do with the Bucs, but Gawd is she cute or what.
November 11th, 2017 at 8:54 pm
And notice Lakeland….McKay’s man Marvin Lewis never lost all those picks, the Bengals have stuck with him all these years, and they have won nothing. I wouldn’t have chosen him over Gruden looking back. He hasn’t won squat.
November 11th, 2017 at 8:56 pm
“Jon Jon, What do you want most in your life?”
“I want to be in the Hall of Fame”
2 superbowls will guarentee Jon of his dream
Jon is filthy rich. Money is not the object
This is how guys from lakeland analize and predict things-
If all of jons kid started a heroin habit, jon will still be filty rich. If jons wife left him for demar dotson and demanded a divorce, jon will still be filthy rich….
This means Jon Gruden will be 2018 Tampa Bay Bucs Head Coach
November 11th, 2017 at 8:56 pm
cmurda…I didn’t call for his head, for the reasons I stated. I wanted Monte’s head for doing us like he did.
November 11th, 2017 at 8:59 pm
cmurda…but then, what goes around comes around. And all Monte has done is look like some enabling dad, running behind his boy cleaning up his messes and trying to prop him up. Frankly, he has become a bad joke. I one believed in Karma, it would be a perfect example.
November 11th, 2017 at 9:02 pm
@ Kobe
That’s pretty damn funny
November 11th, 2017 at 9:04 pm
And further cmurda, Gruden has made a fortune the last decade doing his thing while our Bucs have looked like crap. Again…if one believed in Karma.
November 11th, 2017 at 9:04 pm
Bucs recorde for the seven years following Gru
36-76
Massive improvement.
November 11th, 2017 at 9:04 pm
Only Chucky can remove the Curse, Chucky slapped on the Bucs.
November 11th, 2017 at 9:04 pm
A mere. 40 games below .500…..
November 11th, 2017 at 9:11 pm
Eric…But won’t hit 50 this year because there aren’t enough games left in the season. If only we had Eric “Felece’d us” Curry on this D line….we would be about the same as we are now.
November 11th, 2017 at 9:11 pm
@Mark,
I agree that he sort of abandoned his post, but he’s a father before a coach. Monte Kiffin had done an absolute tremendous job with our defense. He pioneered it along with Dungy. It’s roots are really from the Steel Curtain defense with a very minor tweak. With that said, Monte didn’t owe us any more. In fact, multiple times he thwarted potential Head Coaching offers to stay O Coordinator in Tampa. 13 years with the Bucs. I’ll respectfully disagree. I have nothing but appreciation for Monte.
November 11th, 2017 at 9:14 pm
cmurda…I’m saying he could and should have waited to say anything until the end of the season. He is a father…but he submarined the team that year, and as it was partially responsible for put a trend in motion of often unwatchable football for the last decade, I have less than the appreciation you do. You just don’t do that to your team. Period.
November 11th, 2017 at 9:19 pm
Anything short of the health of you or your family, and you don’t do that. He could have left after the football season…. yes it would have made his transition to USC more difficult. But in hindsight, it accomplished nothing positive for the Bucs, his son, or USC as it turned out.
November 11th, 2017 at 9:20 pm
@mark2001
My Brother and I had to fly a lot out of TIA during that time. And we would see Kiffen every Monday at the airport, leaving to go recruiting during the week. Which left coach Rah in charge during all week!!!!!!!!! Kiffen was only around on the weekend only for those last weeks!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!
November 11th, 2017 at 9:22 pm
Ok
Now this really pisses me off….
How dare you say anything negative about Monte Kiffin…
Monte was the longest tenured buccaneers coach
Monte was always a class
Monte always brought fire and energy
Monte should’ve been inducted into the Bucs Ring of Honor before Gruden
There is no other coach in buccaneers history that gave more than monte…..period!!!!!
November 11th, 2017 at 9:30 pm
Mark…..how about this for hindsight…….They went from Gruden to freaking Mike Dominick.
WTF were the Bucs thinking? It’s not so much losing Gruden that hurt this franchise as it is who they replaced him with.
November 11th, 2017 at 9:34 pm
@thebucsanthem
Kiffen was the one that shipped Warren Sapp out of town because he did not get along with him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 11th, 2017 at 9:42 pm
No, Kiffin had absolutely nothing to do with the demise of this organization. Rockstar and so far Licht, and the carousel of coaches since have. Monte has nothing to do with the talent deficiency or inability to coach since Gruden and Kiffin left.
November 11th, 2017 at 10:10 pm
I always pretty much blamed Gruden for when Kiffen left. They never really seemed to have a good relationship and I think if you have one of the best defensive coordinators in the game you do everything you can to work with them. Find a way to make it work.
Gruden had better football minds in this organization when he first got here then when he left.
November 11th, 2017 at 10:27 pm
gruden is clearly speaking in tongues…saying he can win a superbowl with winston…that’s his selling point and it’s gonna work…koetter is gonna have to twerk his little tush outta here real soon like a buffoon
November 11th, 2017 at 10:31 pm
i heard gruden and jameis were recently seen talking to each other in an aisle at publics…
gruden said: “jameis you pay for those wangs my boi, we got werk to do!”
#Fact #Chuckaneers #ChuckyWillStealYourJob #AndYoGirl
November 11th, 2017 at 11:01 pm
The stars have alligned with the fact that Licht is in his last year. I believe for Gruden to come here he wants full control of personnel and this might be that opening he is looking for. That’s always what Gruden wanted even when Bruce was here. I think the Glazers are willing to hand the keys to Gruden. It’s just a huge risk in my opinion and sometimes emotion can get in the way of smart decisions. We have to look no further then Winston in Evans. Both I believe can be phenomenal players of the game but first have to learn to let the game come to them. Maybe something Gruden has learned while being away from the game. Bucs Life For Me!
November 11th, 2017 at 11:09 pm
Gruden won’t be a good HC (unless Tony Dungy can bring him a bunch of great players and a superb DC to work with)…. but Jameis would thrive under him. He would force JW to utilize the quick, short-passing game as part of the offensive philosophy & not just rely on down-the-field throws.
November 11th, 2017 at 11:12 pm
Gruden would bring Rex Ryan with him
November 12th, 2017 at 3:07 am
Not in a million years
November 12th, 2017 at 8:10 am
What young QB did Gruden develop in his career? While this sounds good, I am not sure its a good fit. Gruden has no history of QB development. He likes to take veterans QBs and tweak them to fit his offense.
November 12th, 2017 at 9:20 am
@Lakeland
Quit sugar coating your comments and tell us how you really feel. LOL
November 12th, 2017 at 9:23 am
I miss Chuckie! I realize he had issues with evaluating talent from time to time, but I miss the fire and the passion. I really hope Koetter turns this ship around….but if he can’t or doesn’t…..I would love to see the Chuckie scowl back on Bucs sideline.
November 12th, 2017 at 10:07 am
Sigh.
November 12th, 2017 at 10:16 am
Tony Dugy as DC and Gruden as HC!
LOL this is all silly talk. NEITHER are returning to the BUCS!
November 12th, 2017 at 11:28 am
@ Joes
I feel like we really have (2) options right now:
1. Koetter needs to hand over the playcalling duties to Monken.
Or
2. Say goodbye to this regime and bring Chucky back.
Koetter is honestly a bad playcaller at this point in time and it’s actually making me miss some of Gruden’s dink and dunk style.
Where are the short, quick, and intermediate routes, Koetter???
Why do u run the ball into a 10-man front repeatedly like u did last week??? That’s just stupid. Especially when u have our talent at receiver/TE.
Seriously, 10 men in the box and we try to run it up the gut… I counted
November 12th, 2017 at 12:04 pm
What happens if coach Gruden takes over the Bucs again and he can not improve Mr. Winstons accuracy, and ball placement, and he never gets over the tendency to lock on his receiver before the snap until he throws the ball. Will that be the reason
November 12th, 2017 at 12:17 pm
What will happen to his Second contract? Will we just say it is his youth, the players around him, heaven forbid the new coaching staff? I do not recall Coach Gruden doing much to improve the QB’s he had in Tampa before, King, Gradakowski, Simms, Gresie, Johnson x3, Garcia. Where again did he help any of those QB’s improve their game skills?
Brad Johnson was always an accurate QB with great ball placement, just not a cannon for an arm. He did take us to and won the Superbowl. What good do we see in how Gruden will improve Our QB’s short falls?
November 12th, 2017 at 12:42 pm
Rusty…correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe any of the QB’s you mentioned were first round talent. Comparing Jameis to those guys is like comparing a Ferrari to an old Pinto.
November 13th, 2017 at 7:26 pm
This is a collection that inspired Warren Sapp (who some of the geniuses above will say was overrated) to call Bucs fans “the dumbest in America.”
@Anthem – post some data and sources to back up your claims. Know what? You can’t. Saying something is a “well known fact” sounds good to people who like believing fabrications. Which is what you are spewing. Shut your piehole.
November 14th, 2017 at 11:34 am
Lakeland did you see the New Orleans game or were you asleep at the wheel?????? Grudens offenses were never this putrid AND Gruden always challenged his defense to be better. Just because they were great he knew they had to be Superbowl calibre. Koetter lets his good friend worry about the defense even though Smith sits up in the coaches box insulated from the players. Basically the defense can go out and lay an egg without gettting chewed out until film time on Mondays. To sit and watch Jameis your franchise quarterback start a brawl and not talk to him on the sideline is not good. Jameis needs someone bigger than Jameis to lead him to the Superbowl. Gruden is that guy mark my word and the Glazers know it too.