Rich McKay Silence Is Getting Louder
January 1st, 2014
Former Bucs general manager Rich McKay, the Glory Years architect who bolted for the Atlanta Falcons front office in 2003, had his name widely floated Monday by various national sources as the possible next Bucs GM.
Joe initially thought McKay wouldn’t walk from his team CEO gig in Atlanta, but now Joe’s not so sure.
The odd silence from McKay is getting louder.
Of course, the rumor of McKay being courted by Team Glazer was heard in Atlanta, and noted Falcons beat writer D. Orlando Ledbetter wrote about how he would reach McKay early Tuesday morning and update readers. Well, neither Ledbetter nor his newspaper, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, updated their Monday story about McKay bolting for the Bucs.
To date, McKay personally has done nothing to shoot down the rumor. Remember, he’s CEO of the Falcons, as in the Bucs’ division rival. Why would McKay want it out there that he’s under consideration for the Bucs GM job if, in fact, he wasn’t? McKay is a media savvy guy. He’s a smart guy, too, an Ivy Leaguer who’s a leader in NFL circles on various committees over the years. This is not a game-player looking for the spotlight.
If McKay didn’t want to be part of this Bucs speculation, he could have shot down the chatter immediately. Joe especially thought that might have happened after Tony Dungy Tweeted that McKay would be the best man for the Bucs job on Monday night. But still, McKay is mum.
On this New Year’s morning, Joe doesn’t find that to be a coincidence.
January 1st, 2014 at 10:10 am
Interesting. One has to wonder how it is behind the scenes with the Glazers and McKay. Are there hard feelings, like there are with Gruden? What about the people who say that McKay put the team into salary cap hell? Is that accurate, or no? McKay coming back to Tampa would be a pretty big story.
January 1st, 2014 at 10:12 am
Not sure how I feel about this possible reunion of the good ol’ days. bringing back McKay, Lovie and possibly marinelli just does not seem like a Glazer thing to do.
The reality is this. The Glazers operate in stealth. Nobody knows what the real story is except them when it comes to front office/coaching changes. They certainly have interviews set up with candidates that are not on the public radar. And they will take everyone into consideration.
I’m not buying the Lovie Smith as favorite just yet.
January 1st, 2014 at 10:17 am
We will be ready to go this year with this guy as our GM.
Who would be his coach?
McKay can go find us another Sapp and Brooks this draft.
January 1st, 2014 at 10:19 am
It would be great to go with McKay, but why not go out and try to find the best GM candidate possible?
Maybe Polian, Hurney, an up and comer?
Joe- Does Butch Davis gain consideration or the GM job?
January 1st, 2014 at 10:22 am
How do you play a Tampa 2 with a shutdown corner?
January 1st, 2014 at 10:28 am
McKay might be a bittersweet move IMHO. It probably means that we get Lovie as our HC. Bucs could do a lot worse with their HC choice than Lovie, but I’m kind of interested in seeing the Bucs at least pursue Jay Gruden as HC. Based on McKay’s experience with Jon I worry Jay never gets an interview for HC in Tampa.
January 1st, 2014 at 10:33 am
@SteveK
Butch Davis is an interesting question…is he still employed by the Bucs or was he let go as well? Could he be in the GM and/or HC mix in Tampa?
January 1st, 2014 at 10:35 am
I was also wondering about Davis? what does he really do? does anyone know?
January 1st, 2014 at 10:41 am
Ummm Stevek…..what do you call David and McCoy? We have our DT and WLB…McKay needs to find us our Simeon Rice, and our Joey J!
January 1st, 2014 at 10:42 am
Is Davis looking for the GM & HC ?
January 1st, 2014 at 10:43 am
NY Buc,
I’d prefer to see Butch Davis as our GM/ in charge of evaluating and acquiring the talent.
Look at the talent he had at UNC, a lot of very gifted prospects.
I think Davis should be in strong consideration for the position.
Scott Pioli sounds great too. Who knows? Just hope we don’t get Mike Sherman to coach us. Bleh.
January 1st, 2014 at 10:50 am
Come home McKay, Come back home.
January 1st, 2014 at 10:51 am
Between 1997 – 2002 the bucs had 41 selections to the pro bowl. The most in NFL.
Now that is superstar GM work.
Not to mention the Super Bowl trophy.
Not to mention his involvement in hiring Tony and Jon.
Not to mention helping mightily to save the bucs with stadium deal.
I can’t fathom a bucs fan would be out there that wouldn’t want to see this happen.
January 1st, 2014 at 10:51 am
Perhaps the fact that his name gets no mention when the media is speculating GM and HC hires for the Bucs means he is on the Glazer’s radar for a position? History has shown they are a secretive group on things like this.
January 1st, 2014 at 10:52 am
referring to Butch Davis that is
January 1st, 2014 at 10:52 am
McKay is going to come over to the Bucs as Pres/CEO. He has so much history here that he cannot resist coming back. Not only as GM, putting together the team that won the Superbowl, but also bc of his father being the first HC of the Bucs.
I would think he would like the image of putting the pieces back together for the Bucs. He will hire a separate GM to do the day to day. And I would see him hiring the coach as well – he certainly has knowledge of who would be the best candidates.
My favorites, in order, are Greg Roman, Lovie and Mike Zimmer. I would prefer an offensive minded coach, but that is a seriously short list. Lovie has creds, and what he lacks in Offensive knowledge, he would make stable (I cannot stomach the idea of another possible Schiano situation). I think Zimmer is going to be awesome if he ever gets the chance (his personality reminds me of Rex Ryan). But Zimmer is probably too D-minded.
What Whisenhunt did in ARZ is not impressive. Even though he went to the SB, he had a losing record overall and the Steelers passed him over for promo. Jay Gruden does not yet have enough NFL experience.
January 1st, 2014 at 10:53 am
Butch freaking Davis are you kidding me? Because of his recruiting at UNC?
The man hasn’t done squat in NFL since he was lucky enough to be with Jimmy Johnson.
January 1st, 2014 at 10:54 am
@ Eric
I like McKay just fine. I’m just concerned that we may not at least explore the possibility of Jay Gruden as HC (if he’s even interested) because of McKay’s history with Jon. Otherwise he’s about as strong a GM candidate as I can think of (except maybe his salary cap management…maybe he’s gotten better)
January 1st, 2014 at 11:02 am
I can see it now….the McKay/ Gruden version 2.0, 2014.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:02 am
that would be the best thing to happen to this team in years in my opinion he helped build the best Buccaneers team ever,then went to Atlanta and did a great job there.as for cap management I dont care how much money he saves or spends,not something I feel is worth my time as a fan.as long as we are competitive on the field.I know there are a lot of people out there that think they know how to run a franchise, but I dont think most of them ever did,so lets let the experienced people do their thing.I think as far as draft picks we used to get Gruden ,we /He didnt do so bad. we knew we were giving up the future,but it was worth it dont you think?
January 1st, 2014 at 11:04 am
Butch Davis would be a disaster. He has no GM experience. Sure, he is an evaluator of talent, but the GM position is so much more than that… capology, etc.
Jay Gruden is going to be a great NFL HC, one day. He just does not have enough experience yet to take that position, IMHO. When he left the Bucs, he went back into the Arena league and has only been back in the NFL (Cinn) for 3 years.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:04 am
Has anyone considered that if the Bucs contact McKay without permission it might be tampering?
January 1st, 2014 at 11:04 am
Any team that wins the Super Bowl has salary cap issues.
Look at the Ravens this year.
I’d love to have a guy that does so well we have trouble keeping all the good players.
Dang sure haven’t seen that in awhile!
That is a good point about Jay Gruden though. But perhaps he gets along with Jay who knows. I love Chucky but he should have never ran Rich McKay out of town. Dumb move.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:05 am
Unfortunately we can’t sign Sam Wyche as our Draft director, since he was instrumental in signing Sapp, Brooks, and Lynch. McKay was no better at evaluating personnel than Dom. was….do you think he ever knew what it took to build an offense in Tampa, or what a good Offense player ever looked like?
January 1st, 2014 at 11:06 am
Silence… getting louder
January 1st, 2014 at 11:07 am
Butch Davis is too tied to Schiano/Dominick….he is probably out.
According to most Buc fans….we can’t do much worse than Schiano/Dominick/Davis.
McKay would be OK…..Lovie would be OK.
Whoever it is won’t be blamed for Freeman or for getting rid of Bennett…so…from that standpoint…I welcome them!!!
January 1st, 2014 at 11:12 am
For a non-HC, Zimmer’s resume is very impressive. Go check it out…
http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Mike_Zimmer
January 1st, 2014 at 11:15 am
First, McKay didn’t get Gruden. He wanted a totally different coach and the glazers trumped him. That is why he didn’t like Gruden. Then, when garden won the asuperbowl with McKay’s team, the rift widened (gruden’s growing ego didn’t help.)
Rich got a fat contract extension but couldn’t be in same house as Gruden. Owners chose Gruden.
When Rich wanted to go to Falcons, he asked the owners not to extract big draft pick ransom to get out of his contract. Another mistake for Glazers as they used those picks to get talent.
However, the fact the Glazers let McKay leave without a ransom might be a reason he’d consider coming back.
Anyone know what McKay has left on his contract?
He was GM in Atlanta a short while, then moved up and away from drafting, etc. Should he get credit for the talent they have on the roster?
Polian or Pioli might be a better choice as we’ve seen what McKay can do here. Also
January 1st, 2014 at 11:19 am
@BuccaneerBonzai Says:
Has anyone considered that if the Bucs contact McKay without permission it might be tampering?
This is the Billionare’s Club. Glazers put a call into Arthur Blank and its done. You are not dealing with a Jerry Jone type, etc. And McKay is not involved in daily GM activities, so the Falcons may consider him expendable… since they are helping out their fellow NFL fraternity brothers
January 1st, 2014 at 11:21 am
@Draft Marty Schottenheimer Says:
“Polian or Pioli might be a better choice as we’ve seen what McKay can do here.”
Yeah, he only got us the talent to get us a Superbowl win. What could be wrong with that?
January 1st, 2014 at 11:27 am
A-train
Dunn
Brad Johnson
Keshawn
There’s a few offensive players for you.
Six playoff appearances in ten years? One of the best defensive units in history. Sure Wyche deserves some credit but Rich McKay was right there too. I remember him falling off his chair when Sapp fell to them. The coach always has input in the draft – like Rah recommending Rock draft Freeman. But to say Rich wasn’t involved in Sapp Brooks and Lynch is dead wrong.
And someone is comparing him to Mark Dominik? Seriously?
McKay selected Dungy and Gruden. Both Super Bowl winners.
Rock selected Greg Schiano.
Bucs fans never cease to amaze me. Total lack of appreciation for outstanding GM work.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:28 am
All I know is if you let Lovie run the defense, you might as well cut Revis. His man to man skills would be wasted. Then we are out a few draft picks for what, one crappy year of play.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:30 am
Eric,
Tampa got those SB games because we had a brand new stadium. That is why we are not getting them now.
Fan memory is short. Rich McKay left because he knew the Bucs were about to enter salary cap problems due to his management. He bolted before it became obvious, which would have hurt his job offers.
It is no coincidence that the Falcons moved him from GM to president a year later. They saw what he had done to Tampa and they saw the massive contracts he had given out as GM there and they moved to stop him.
It was left for Bruce Allen to clean up his mess in Tampa…and Allen is not a great GM either.
Doses this mean I don’t want Rich back? Honestly I have not decided. He was good at delaying the cap issues to make himself look good, and the Bucs benefitted from that.
But Rich is not a good talent evaluator. That’s why it took Sam W. to bring in our 3 fav players. That’s why Dungy was key in the rest.
If McKay was any good he would have landed us a good offense as well.
I’m big on tradition though. So again, I’m undecided.
I doubt the Falcons would give the Bucs permission to talk to him…so it would be tampering.
That’s why I doubt the McKay rumors are true.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:35 am
McKay helped build one of the best defenses in the history of the league.
He participated in selecting two Super Bowl winning coaches.
My memory is that Rich was the GM and heavily involved in drafting Lynch, Sapp, and Brooks. Sure Wyche was also involved like all head coaches. But why would Rich get no credit for it?
McKay vs. Dominik isn’t even close. One fabulous success, one dismal failure.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:36 am
Harry,
You are delusional, lol.
There is no fraternity between divsion rivals. Yeah, the Falcons are going to approve a move that might end up helping us beat them for years to come. Riiiight.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:37 am
True, Mckay wanted someone else to coach,but you cant say he didnt get the players here, or that he didnt make the deal for Gruden. I think we had Parcells locked up at one time ,but he balked. you dont always get the one you want, but you have to be able to re adjust, and make the best of the situation,which I think McKay can do. as for Gruden and him not getting along,I think Gruden just wanted a yes man he could control,so that is why Bruce Allen came on.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:38 am
Can anyone explain exactly what it is that Butch Davis did/does? I never got that.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:39 am
Eric,
Coaches often make the final decisions in the draft. GMs make the final decisions in free agencyand trades.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:41 am
How in the world can you be a bad talent evaluator with 41 pro bowl selections in five years.
Seven on the Super Bowl team.
Why does he get no credit for the great players that were brought in (one hall of Famer so far) because Wyche and Dungy were the coaches? He was the GM.
They worked together on the drafts just like Rah/Dom and Greg/Dom.
That’s the way it works!
January 1st, 2014 at 11:44 am
If by some chance the Glazers could get Rich from Atlanta, he would pick a defensive head coach. Remember, after Dungy was fired he actually had hired Marvin Lewis who at that time was the Def. Cord. with the Ravens. The Glazers told him no deal, to recind his offer, then did the big deal to hire Gruden.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:45 am
B.D,
McKay had nothing to do with the deal for Gruden. He saw that it would cost too much and was very much against it.
The Glazers over road him and made the deal directly. It was all over the news.
In fact, he was against the Keyshawn deal as well.But the Glazers told him to give Gruden what he wanted.
Charlie Garner anyone?
If anything, McKay might not want to return because of the oowners. They constantly interfered in his work.
Which is why I’m on the gene about him. THEY may have been the cause of the cap issues.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:47 am
God this new tablet is ticking me off. Changed fence to gene. Sigh.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:47 am
Maybe we should bring another Gruden in, so he can win with Schiano’s team just like his brother did with Dungy’s.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:48 am
So why have the Joes and many others been going on and on about Dominiks great Drafts if The Head Coaches make the draft decisions?
I remember those drafts. McKay was heavily involved. He fell off his chair when Dunn fell to them because the guy taken before was named Warrick too. And I remember the post draft pressers where Mckay talked about why they drafted Brooks.
To give the man no credit is grossly unfair. He was as involved as any GM on the draft – which is a lot!
January 1st, 2014 at 11:50 am
Keshawn was brought in by Dungy and McKay.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:51 am
No it’s not tampering
The Falcons season is officially over.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:56 am
“Unless otherwise provided for in this Policy, no club may request permission to discuss employment with a non-player, non-coach employee of another club, whether or not that employee is under contract, during the employer club’s playing season, defined as the period from the opening of preseason training camp through the club’s final game of the season, including postseason if applicable.”
January 1st, 2014 at 11:56 am
yeah Marvin Lewis was a flop for sure,…..
January 1st, 2014 at 11:58 am
@BuccaneerBonzai Says:
(1) Harry, You are delusional, lol.
(2) Coaches often make the final decisions in the draft. GMs make the final decisions in free agencyand trades.
First, maybe I am, lol. But McKay does not have day to day involvement in running the Falcons. They can afford to cut McKay loose since Thomas Dimitroff does that. And I am not saying there would be zero compensation, Arthur Blank is no dummy.
Second, I complete disagree the role you describe for the GM. Yes of course that is the case in some situations. But that is not the traditional role. A GM builds a roster for long term talent, Coaches are just the opposite – they want to win Today. Its a conflict of interest. GM traditionally are in charge of both FA and the draft, but try to accommodate the HC bc his success determines their success.
The reason McKay got fired/quit was bc Gruden wanted total control over FA and the draft, hence he hired Bruce Allen, his puppet. And then the eventual downfall of talent on the Bucs roster.
January 1st, 2014 at 11:59 am
Mckay was so good as a Gm in Atlanta, they brought in someone else… What does that tell you. McKay was good until his front office people started taking other jobs, Just look at his drafts, the last 4 years were not good!
I miss the Mckay/Mora jr regime in Atlanta. We all laughed as they ran that franchise into the ground.
January 1st, 2014 at 12:00 pm
@PRBucFan Says:
No it’s not tampering
Yes, it is. The quote you offer is for “in-season” contact. If the player/staff member is under contract, then the Bucs would first have to seek permission from the other organization to contact/make an offer the the other organization’s employee
January 1st, 2014 at 12:03 pm
The quote I offered was proof that if the Bucs wanted to seek permission to talk to McKay they can because the season is OVER for the Bucs 😉
January 1st, 2014 at 12:03 pm
Falcons I meant.
Otherwise they could not
January 1st, 2014 at 12:08 pm
And again No, it not.
Unless you guys are dumb enough to think they would make contact without permission which I’m sure as hell they wouldn’t its not tampering.
It’s following the protocol I listed in the above quote.
Again the point of the quote was to show that they NOW have permission to actually start the process of seeking permission to contact McKay since the Falcons season is over.
If he bolted from Tampa in similar fashion what makes you think he couldn’t bolt from Atlanta in similar fashion.
January 1st, 2014 at 12:13 pm
If I remember correctly Mora/mckays team went to NFC Championship game in 2004.
Rich moved up to work on their stadium deal.
But this is Tampa, if you have had success here the fans rip you. Failure is embraced.
Guy helps builds the best teams we ever had and gets no respect.
Interesting dichotomy.
January 1st, 2014 at 12:19 pm
@ Buc Realist
Oh no! You are opposed to McKay!!! Please, Glazers…don’t bring in McKay if the Realist is opposed…..we know what happens from the “Pop Star” posts.
Realist….please provide a list of your acceptable GM candidates so we can root for them.
We need some peace on JBF!!!
January 1st, 2014 at 12:26 pm
Could this be the scenario?
1)Tony Dungy publicly recommends Rich Mckay.
2)Rich Mckay tells the Glazers, I will take the job only if I can rehire Tony Dungy.
Are they planning this?
January 1st, 2014 at 12:35 pm
I just hope the Glazers don’t OVER COMPENSATE again too much.
First it was go with a players coach like Raheem, then they overcompensated with a tyrant like Schiano. I hope they don’t try to bring everyone back, that would not be good either.
Remember, Dungy was an up and coming NFL coordinator too long passed over for a Head Coaching job, mostly due to color.
And don’t discount that last remark, its only the last ten years that color is not an issue in the NFL coaching ranks. At the time, Dungy’s hire in 1996, the subject of an African American coach was still a sore spot on the NFL.
Lost my point there for a moment, but point is, I think it would be great to go get Lovie Smith, Rich McKay, but don’t go TOO far and try to bring back too many people. Hungry up and comings are needed too.
January 1st, 2014 at 12:37 pm
I am down with the Idea of
McKay the new president
Dungy the new GM
Lovie HC
Marinelli DC
Tedford? as the OC
and Bisacia as the ST Coach
I would prefer McKay to be the president over GM
January 1st, 2014 at 12:40 pm
Can’t see McKay coming back as a GM, CEO or President maybe, but not GM. We need this team to evolve out of the stone age, not revert further into it.
January 1st, 2014 at 12:42 pm
I personally like Eric Stokes
January 1st, 2014 at 12:43 pm
Im scared y’all
Lovie is interviewing with the Lions too
Please God don’t go to Detroit Lovie!!!
January 1st, 2014 at 12:44 pm
I can’t wait for them to hire SOMEONE so I can get on with watching youtube highlights of draft prospects like I’m supposed to do in the early off season.
January 1st, 2014 at 12:48 pm
Correct, Meshawn came in during Dungy’s tenure. My problem with McKay is he almost seems too concerned with both heavy focus on defense and the long term. In the league of parity, you can’t act like next year is more important than this year. We entered too many post-seasons where they shut everything down to remain healthy for the Super Bowl. Single elimination took care of those worries.
I like McKay. And if the Glazers lure him back, I’d be satisfied. But that ship has sailed. We have a decent roster than needs more professional attention and we need a balanced coach who understands strategy as much as mechanics.
If we are looking for excitement to draw crowds back in, bringing in McKay and defensive-minded Lovie Smith will all but guarantee we are in this same situation in 2 years with older talent and more disenchanted fans.
January 1st, 2014 at 12:48 pm
When you read between the lines the picture that emerges of the Glazer bros is an owner that overrides GM and HC decisions every bit as much as Jones or Snyder but without running to the cameras to announce it. If you think about that explains a lot about the Parcells and Kelly almost hires and a lot about why less experienced guys like Dom, Rah and Schiano were hired. The experienced GM they hired burned them when he signed Gruden’s reclamation projects to cap heavy deals. This time they’ve had the majority of the season to plan for Monday’s announcement to cut the GM and HC loose. So the question going forward is have the bros learned that their money is better spent and their franchise is better off when owners hire pros to run the franchise not run the franchise with backseat driving owners. I suspect we’re going to see another “promising” GM/HC pair who are so grateful to get the job they’re not worried about the bros desire to be fully involved in all decisions before they’re made.
January 1st, 2014 at 12:50 pm
The thing that really esculated the Gruden/McKay feud was when McKay drafted Chris Simms without consulting Gruden. Gruden was heard in Rich’s office screaming “how in the Hell can you draft a QB without telling me first?”
January 1st, 2014 at 12:52 pm
@ PR
Everyone will interview Lovie…(part of the rules)
Lets all root for Eric Stokes (Buc Realist’s choice for GM)
This will force him to be positive about our new GM until he fails…then the Realist will have to change Monikers
January 1st, 2014 at 12:57 pm
Please no Lovie and McKay. Its not 2002 anymore, the NFL is a radically different game. If its not going to be an offensive coach, go with Schottenheimer then. The guy did get fired after going 14-2, something that has never happened in Bucs history. I could live with 14-2.
January 1st, 2014 at 12:59 pm
Yeah, what he said!
January 1st, 2014 at 1:08 pm
Reply to NY Buc
As far as the salary cap is concerned, If McKay was brought to Tampa Bay he would step into a great salary cap situation. Imo Salary cap management was Dominics best quality as a GM.
For the record I like the idea of hiring McKay/Lovie…I’d also love it if we could find a way to land Sammy Watkins or a QB if available with our 1st pick in the up upcoming draft…
January 1st, 2014 at 1:16 pm
All I want is points on the board.
January 1st, 2014 at 1:16 pm
40 or 50 a game.
January 1st, 2014 at 1:18 pm
Great cap management is secondary to setting up for a Championship run. You can’t overly manage yourself into contention every single year. I’d accept a 3 year run at Super Bowl in exchange for a 1-2 year downside afterwards.
January 1st, 2014 at 1:26 pm
PRBucFan, how do you explain teams asking for permission to make offers to coordinators and assistant coaches then? I’m not 100% sure, but I think you are mistaken.
January 1st, 2014 at 1:28 pm
Draft Marty Schottenheimer Says
“Great cap management is secondary to setting up for a Championship run. You can’t overly manage yourself into contention every single year. I’d accept a 3 year run at Super Bowl in exchange for a 1-2 year downside afterwards.”
McKay’s cap management skills put us in cap issues for 5 years. A 3 year run for 5 years of problems does not equate.
January 1st, 2014 at 1:31 pm
Eric Says
“Keshawn was brought in by Dungy and McKay.”
That would be quite the trick considering Keyshawn came to the Bucs in the Superbowl year.
January 1st, 2014 at 1:34 pm
A little research and you could have avoided that erroneous statement
January 1st, 2014 at 1:37 pm
Key played with Bucs 2000 – 2003. Super Bowl season 2002.
January 1st, 2014 at 1:39 pm
Bringing back both McKay and Smith is intriguing and I think it could be, and would be a solid move by the Glazer brothers. This would absolutely make us contenders and talk about getting the fans back into the stadium and the winning culture back to the Bay area. It will be nteresting to see how this pans out.
January 1st, 2014 at 1:49 pm
Justin—McKay & Lovie back is EXACTLY a Glazer move. Look, they tried to keep the In House Buccaneer Party going with Rah & Dom, & then a Buccaneer-esque (a wanna-be Gruden/Dungy hybrid) guy in Schiano. It makes sense, for better or worse, they’d want *real* Buccaneer Men back to run the ship that was established with the Pewter.
January 1st, 2014 at 2:20 pm
I’m not mistaken, but the rules are online for you to go read them if you want and they are pretty clear so you can read them.
The Falcons season is over they did not make the playoffs
The Bucs season is over they did not make the playoffs.
The Bucs are free to contact the Falcons about McKay who has 1 years remaining on his contract about a possible hire.
I personally think we have someone already in place, IMO the Glazers are just waiting to interview with the HC.
Again, I like Eric Stokes
January 1st, 2014 at 2:31 pm
Bonzai….a voice of reason, preaching to the newbies. All the things you mentioned about McKay are true. Hiring him at GM would be at best replacing a lower than average guy with an average guy. Is that what we want? Why don’t you see if Ron Wolf is still alive? Better choice than McKay….there is a guy that really built something, and if alive is likely still living in the Tampa Bay area.
January 1st, 2014 at 2:35 pm
Someone mentioned Butch Davis? really? i have never seen a coach make a career off of working for a coach like he has…he has done nothing since being D coordinator with dallas…in fact one could argue that he recked every program he has been including this one while double dipping his entire career…nope…get rid of that fake NOW
January 1st, 2014 at 2:39 pm
not happening…now is the chance mckay can twist up the weasels that burnt him with that jerk off gruden…you know the guy that couldn’t develop a qb and whos offense blew…
mckay will string them out like everybody does then bail at the alter…so they have to go get scraps to run the team…same story different day with the weasels…
January 1st, 2014 at 2:48 pm
i can’t see this happening. First, MacKay was undermined by the Glazers when they overrode him on Marvin Lewis and went behind his back to get Gruden. Then they ignored him with personnel decisions. When he bolted from Atlanta, her burned a lot of bridges. He walked out on the Bucs one day and was then sitting in the owners box in Atlanta for the Tampa game 3 days later. I don’t know where this rumor is coming from, but why would MacKay come back to an ownership that’s already marginalized him once before? Plus— MacKay ignored the ownership once before when the Glazers wanted an offensive minded coach. I can’t see this working to do anything to really push Tampa back into the elite ranks…
January 1st, 2014 at 2:52 pm
Please comeback to Tampa!!
Please!!
January 1st, 2014 at 2:55 pm
Eric and Harry have their facts straight. Nice analyses guys! Thanks.
January 1st, 2014 at 3:52 pm
@PRBucFan Says:
Unless you guys are dumb enough to think they would make contact without permission
Try re-reading what I said; I said the same thing. So I guess that makes you the dumb a$$?
January 1st, 2014 at 3:57 pm
Maybe McKay comes back as President/CEO of Football Operations and we pursue someone like Bill Cowher who is speculated to want GM status as well as HC. Love the Speculation. Just hope we all don’t get a deflating bullspit selection as HC and GM. No more unproven college coaches unless they are from a big program that runs pro-style schemes but still rather an NFL up and comer or proven coach. Go Bucs!
January 1st, 2014 at 4:17 pm
Stokes!
January 1st, 2014 at 4:17 pm
First let me address the ” Meshawn” comment. Watch the season wrap up/Super Bowl DVD . It’s not bragging if you can do it. I did not want Keyshawn here but he earned my respect during his tenure with the Bucs.
Next, let me just say, you guys are funny, some of your comments, lmao. Why not type up your resumes for gm and HC instead of insults on here?
Lmao!
January 1st, 2014 at 4:29 pm
McKay drafted only 2 decent offensive players here: Dunn and Alstott. Every receiver he ever drafted, BUST. Every offensive lineman he drafted, BUST. I like McKay as an executive with a strong personnel chief below him, which is exactly what Atlanta decided.
January 1st, 2014 at 4:38 pm
buxfan
This how you do it, run man to man with revis and everybody else play zone cover 2 man.
January 1st, 2014 at 4:40 pm
Why would McKay want to work for the perennial losers known as the Glazers boys again? They are the constant in the equation now.
Blank is a better boss by a very wide margin.
January 1st, 2014 at 4:43 pm
Hey Genius, why the hell would you type a post arguing my point if you agreed?
Don’t come at me with that stupid shiite. telling me I’m wrong than telling me you said the same thing.
Jackass. I’m done wasting time with you.
January 1st, 2014 at 5:56 pm
I would love to see McKay come home. He is so high up in the NFL comp committee that we would get all the nice perks like 4pm early game and lots of national games as soon as we win a few games and give him them the slightest reason. BTW we didn’t have any problems with our cap til Allen came in Rich always managed the cap well.
January 1st, 2014 at 6:42 pm
McKay. Gruden. Smith. Dungy. How about none of the above. No nostalgic rehash coaches or GM. The Bucs and fans need better than these. I hope the Glazers have enough sense to avoid the quick decisions.
January 1st, 2014 at 8:37 pm
I still think whoever they end up hiring as GM will still have a hard time convincing any established NFL HC to come here (Lovie in this potential scenario). The message the Glazers sent is loud and clear, you’ve get 2 years to put a winning team on the field or you’re gone. Seems like a scenario more attractive to an coordinator looking to get a HC gig if it works or a HC audition for somewhere else if it doesn’t work out.
January 1st, 2014 at 9:22 pm
I’ll give you 5 to 1 at any amount against McKay coming back
January 1st, 2014 at 9:33 pm
I’ll give you 100 to1 that McKay won’t take the job..if 0ffered
January 2nd, 2014 at 12:00 am
“There was no indication, no signs, no whispers that Michael could be involved in any of this kind of behavior,” McKay said on July 25, 2007, when the dog fighting story broke.
It later came to light that the signs were large, loud and obvious. Even the most cursory search would have easily revealed the truth, or at least raised suspicion.
McKay was in complete charge of personnel at that time. It was his duty to protect Blank’s investment at the Vick contract renewal. McKay personally negotiated the renewal with Vick’s agent, Joel Segal, and agreed to shell out the then-largest contract in history.
Blank trusted McKay’s advice and counsel. McKay personally guaranteed to Arthur that Vick had given up his sketchy friends and activities. McKay’s sloppy or nonexistent background check cost The Falcons very, very dearly.
Furthermore, McKay’s the genius who put The Falcons’ future in the hands of Bobby Petrino, another man who was obviously slippery as an eel and crooked as a crazy straw. But Arthur believed in Rich.
No wonder McKay hasn’t been involved in actual football-related activities since 2008.
Bucs want him back? Amazing. But the Jaguars had to hire Mike Mularkey in order to find out what The Falcons could have just told them.