T.J. Ward Wonders How John Harbaugh Got Fired But Todd Bowles Did Not

January 15th, 2026

Not a Todd Bowles fan.

In a recent edition of “The Arena: Gridiron,” former Bucs cornerback Aqib Talib and former NFL quarterback Cody Kessler agreed that with three division titles under his belt, Todd Bowles both earned and deserved to return for a fifth season leading the Bucs.

But another former Bucs defender scoffed at the suggestion.

Ex-Bucs safety T.J. Ward audibly sighed when he heard Kessler and Talib make that argument for Bowles.

Ward, who won a Super Bowl ring with the Broncos, couldn’t believe the soft-pedaling by Talib and Kessler.

“What are we here to do?” Ward began. “We in this to win championships, not divisions.

“[A division title] is great. It helps you win championships.”

Part of the reason Ward wasn’t buying what Talib and Kessler were selling is he thinks the Bucs skated on two of those division titles by playing in a weak division.

“You can use that term, divisions, very lightly,” Ward said. “Because he went 8-9 (in 2022), 9-8 (in 2023). I give him 2024, 10-7, yeah. This year, 8-9.

“So you really winning the division based off of luck and what the other teams’ wins or losses and tiebreakers and all that?. You’re not really just going out there, going 14-2 and winning the division that way.”

Ward said he’d be willing to give Bowles a pass if it was the offense that let the team down. But instead, it was Bowles’ side of the ball.

“His specialty is defense,” Ward said. “Their defense was atrocious. Atrocious. You have to find ways [to fix a defense].

“As a defensive coordinator, lose a player there, you lose a player here, you’ve got to put guys in place to make plays and do what they do best. I really didn’t see him do that.

“If Harbaugh gotta go, then Bowles gotta go.”

But Bowles is staying.

While Talib felt Bowles had the street cred to stick around, Talib wondered why Baker Mayfield wasn’t catching some of the flak that was hitting Bowles.

Joe thinks that’s a fair point.

64 Responses to “T.J. Ward Wonders How John Harbaugh Got Fired But Todd Bowles Did Not”

  1. HC Grover Says:

    Glazers. Sell Sell!!! New owners needed.

  2. HC Grover Says:

    Manchester Buccaneers.

  3. SB~LV 🏈 Says:

    NOTHING short of a new head coach is ACCEPTABLE!

  4. Hodad Says:

    He ain’t wrong.

  5. Mhystc Says:

    TJ Ward is a smart man. We all wonder the same thing.

  6. Mike Says:

    Spoken nothing but the absolute truth here in every way.

  7. Baking with the next one Says:

    Baker was not catching some of the flak because is the coaches responsibility to bench Baker when he is not helping the team due to his injuries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2026 RINSE AND REPEAT

  8. UGotRobbed Says:

    TB is BA’s boy! That’s way he’s still here…heavy sigh

  9. Bucs And Them Says:

    If the Bucs are indeed keeping Bowles for this coming season which, we haven’t heard Licht or the Glazers make that statement, they need to sign McDaniel tomorrow. Let him coach the offense unobstructed and, if he and the offense produce and Bowles’s defense doesn’t, we have our next head coach.

  10. It's Corn Says:

    Was the worst division for that long in the history of the NFL.

    Would be way more impressive to win 3 wild cards than three division titles in the kiddie pool.

  11. Pewter Power Says:

    Talib still seeing visions of cabs drivers in his head. Baker can only take so much flak. He’s taking criticism every week but Bucs are stuck with him contractually plus there are no better options. There are endless options to replace Bowles

  12. rfdes Says:

    Remember?

    1995 Sam Wyche 7-9 Fired
    started: 5-2 finished: 2-7

    2025 Todd Bowles 8-9 Pat on the Head
    started: 6-2 finished: 2-7

    I don’t see the difference.
    Of course daddy was running the team back them.

  13. Zoocomics Says:

    Even being a ex-Buc, Talib and Kessler probably don’t follow the Bucs like “we” do. All they are really looking at are the stats, the wins/losses, the division titles, and they will agree regardless of the strength of the division, it’s hard to win in the NFL. If they followed like we do, they maybe feeling a bit differently.

    Prior to the season, I appreciated Bowles ability to generate pressure when we didn’t have the D-line to do it independently, and yet this collapse down stretch, I was ready to move on. Collapsing has been a trend with Bowles teams, and unfortunately, this time he couldn’t dig himself out of it, and with a soft schedule having to play teams that were literally playing for nothing. Bowles appears to be consistently outcoached, and I’m now in agreement that we’ve seen his ceiling. Short of having a hall of fame roster his defenses just aren’t good enough. Don’t tell me Kancey was the lynch pin in all of this?

    49ers are a great example of a team that actual had the lowest pressure rate of any football team in the NFL, while losing (2) elite playmakers on defense and yet somehow coaches figured out a way to get their defense off on 3rd downs and now they are into the second round of the playoffs. How does that happen?

  14. Colonel Angus Says:

    Ward said he’d be willing to give Bowles a pass if it was the offense that let the team down. But instead, it was Bowles’ side of the ball.

    “His specialty is defense,” Ward said. “Their defense was atrocious. Atrocious. You have to find ways [to fix a defense].

    Thats the issue. If our defense was a top unit and we lost due to offensive ineptitude, I would have no problem keeping Todd. But his defense has been garbage for years. So we have to rely on a top offense to bail out Todds defense.

  15. Bucsfan2023 Says:

    If they fired Todd they would be the 9th team looking for a new head coach and a new OC. According to some on this site none of the really exceptional candidates for head coach would take this position as the Bucs ave a bad QB they are stuck with, bad tight ends and bad edge rushers and secondary. The Bucs will be lucky to get a good OC with all the vacancies let alone a HC.

  16. buc4evr Says:

    Bowles stopped being a defensive genius the year after the SB. Cooper Cupp – sound familiar ? Bowles should have been fired back then as DC right after that game. Instead somehow his buddy Arians got him promoted to head coach…. The guy is a loser that throws his players under the bus. McDaniel could step in as HC tomorrow , take over the offense and hire a decent DC. However the Glazers are letting their pride get in the way and are determined to ride this team to the bottom. Oh and Licht also needs to go, but that won’t happen either.

  17. Kidfloflo Says:

    That is the only point to be made for his need to be fired…YOUR side of the ball, the defense was atrocious! So if he got rid of some coaches, and the new ones run his same inept evidently waaaay to hard to learn defense, what in the world thinks it will change!? I know drafting players might help, but will surely take them years to process and learn this challenging scheme, so ipso facto, Blows will be fired! Doesn’t he see/realize this?? I means sticking to your guns and going down with the ship is definitely one way to approach it…the other, which might actually save your ass, is to change it up….we all know which way he will proceed

  18. Deeboooo Says:

    Harbaugh got stale, both from coaching the same team for almost 2 decades and within the locker room . And his QB wasn’t backing him.

    Though Todd’s message might be stale (no one here really knows unless you’re in the locker room), I don’t think the two situations are fair to compare side by side

  19. Muscle Hampster Says:

    When there’s a turd in the Bowles, you flush. It’s obvious

  20. heyjude Says:

    Wow, that was a scorching get-together discussion about Todd. Some feeling the last game saved him. Probably so. And the thing is, they all like him.

  21. Jerseybuc Says:

    Yep!!! Like 99 percent of the fans been saying. R white even said bowels should not call plays but what’s he know right 🥴
    Sure the 15 people who still want this guy as the coach will have something else to say

  22. jug Says:

    Licht with another bungled decision. First it was letting Coen leave now its not canning Bowels and bringing in Harbaugh and Monken. I really wish the Glazers would sell to someone who actually cares about the fans. Guaranteed season tickets diminish next year, at least for Bucs fans. @joe I would love to know those numbers if and when they come out

  23. Warren Brooks Lynch Says:

    If Bowles had 17-2nd half double digit leads blown on his resume, and couldn’t quite connect with his 2-Time MVP QB then yea Ravens ownership likely asked themselves why they’re compensating the special talent and not getting special results as a team.

    Harbaugh and Bowles have different problems, unique to the teams they’re on. We don’t have a defense put together like that Ravens defense, and we damn sure don’t have a Lamar Jackson lvl of potential from the QB position lol

    Agree on our defense playing the way they did and it being Bowles’ specialty is and was a bad look, but when you consider we went into the bye week +5 in the turnover margin with 5 giveaways to 12 takeaways in 5 of our first 8 game.

    Then coming out after the BYE and breaking even in that depeartment, 11 giveaways to 11 takeaways. You can start factoring in the offenses involvement in us finishing 8-9 as a team. We sucked enough in all 3 phases to go 2-7 down the stretch.

  24. Bucnbeers Says:

    The only thing I can think of, Todd is having an affair with Darcie Glazer.

  25. Lefty R Says:

    Ward said he’d be willing to give Bowles a pass if it was the offense that let the team down. But instead, it was Bowles’ side of the ball.

    “His specialty is defense,” Ward said. “Their defense was atrocious. Atrocious. You have to find ways [to fix a defense].

    Hahahaha, I could not agree more!!!!

  26. Mobucs Says:

    All comparisons are not valid, or even useful. The only things Harbaugh and Bowles have in common is that they both coached in the NFL last year and both had teams that missed the playoffs. They do not even compete in the same conference, much less against each other. Similarly, to compare two teams in different divisions simply by W-L records does not tell anything about the comparative “strength” of either division. Prima facie, I would suspect that a division with a 14-2 [sic] winner is less competitive than one with a 9-8 winner.. The former probably swept his division and lost outside the division; at worst it was 4-2 in its division.

  27. buccintimeforchanges Says:

    Baker was injured. But Jason Licht signed a worthless POS Teddy to be a back up.

    Well, as only Jason Licht can do…we couldn’t put Teddy out there when needed bc he stunk. Another wasted signing/money by that POS LOSER JASON LICHT.

    Get a real back up. Get a real HC. Get a real GM.

    The Glazers are crap owners

  28. Mobucs Says:

    Correction: “The only things …are….”

  29. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    HC Grover Says
    “Glazers. Sell Sell!!! New owners needed.”

    That’s ridiculous.

  30. SB~LV 🏈 Says:

    Because of the
    Bumbling 3 Stooges Brothers

  31. SB~LV 🏈 Says:

    If the Bumbling Brothers had a tax attorney as Bad as Bowels has been as HC he’d be GONE like the wind !

  32. Mhystc Says:

    Can you imagine a OC comes here makes the offense top 5 like Coen did, and the defense plays terrible and they let the OC take a head coaching job somewhere else and keep Bowles again? What a nightmare. Glazers wouldn’t make the same mistake twice right ? Then again it’s the glazers, they’re clueless.

  33. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Ward is right.

    Bucs And Them Says:
    …”If the Bucs are indeed keeping Bowles for this coming season which, we haven’t heard Licht or the Glazers make that statement…”

    That is a very good point. We’ve seen the media make the claim. Has Bowles even said it?

    I can only think, though, that they would not be interviewing OC and ST candidates if they were going to replace Bowles. The new HC would certainly need to be a part of that process.

    I think we’re stuck with Bowles, but I’m hoping we’re not. If anyone is hired for a coaching spot, that would pretty much lock Bowles in.

  34. Hogslyr Says:

    I can’t believe the blasphemy! He’s talking about our Defensive Guru!
    Killing me!
    He just fired all the weak links!
    Now this ship will sail!

  35. Eckwood Says:

    accurate!! and for three years, the whole back into the defense runs around confused !!

  36. Hogslyr Says:

    They were holding the GENIUS down!

  37. Mobucs Says:

    If you want to compare Bowles to another head coach, how about Zac Taylor. His team also finished third and he’s the only coach left in the AFC North?

  38. Jimbo Says:

    HARBAUGH WAS OT FIRED! He quit. He is still under contract for 1 more year and another option year. Any team that wants him would have to trade for him.

    Geez, Google is right there, people.

  39. FortMyersDave Says:

    Good takes by TJ Ward. Bowles is benefiting from misplaced trust in Bowles by the Glazer clan probably justified by the fact that they already owe fired coaches and managers at Man U over $40 million bucks. It is all about the coin, probably also why the Bucs have not made a big free agent splash in a while, all about the coin.

  40. gofortheface30 Says:

    Leave if it up to Mr. white Guilt himself – WarrenBrooksLynch to be an apologiest for Lamar. Pop quiz: What is Harbaughs playoff record pre Lamar, and how many superbowls does he have pre lamar. Question 3 – what is harbaughs playoff record with Lamar. Once you answer those questions, ask yourself if it is Harbaughs fault

  41. SB~LV 🏈 Says:

    If only the Outback Boys had been able to buy the franchise!

  42. Deeboooo Says:

    FortMeyersDave

    I very much doubt ManU and the Bucs are the same business and share the same cash flow. So being out 40 million in one business really doesn’t effect what the other business does or their cash flow. I very much doubt the Glazers are coming out of pocket for their cap for either team (business). That money “lives” in the business.

    If they are coming out of pocket for their businesses, well the Glazers have much bigger problems

  43. FormerBucFan Says:

    “While Talib felt Bowles had the street cred to stick around, Talib wondered why Baker Mayfield wasn’t catching some of the flak that was hitting Bowles.

    Joe thinks that’s a fair point.”

    Are you throwing Baker under the bus to cover for Todd????

  44. SB~LV 🏈 Says:

    The Emperor has NO CLOTHES!

  45. wlliam Says:

    glazers dont care about fans like art blank does in Atlanta/

  46. buccintimeforchanges Says:

    Bowles verified to the TBT

    He is OFFICALLY back. It’s been reported.

  47. Vancouver Buc Says:

    ….Cooper Kupp…

  48. buccintimeforchanges Says:

    @ Jimbo – Harbaugh was FIRED

  49. Warren Brooks Lynch Says:

    “Leave if it up to Mr. white Guilt himself – WarrenBrooksLynch to be an apologiest for Lamar.“

    I found the adult who can’t read beyond a 7th grade reading level in here.

    White guilt? Sir, how in the blue hell can you tell what color my skin is just by the words I type? Don’t be stupid, which is how that statements sounds.

    Harbaugh, hasn’t won a postseason game since 2020

    Harbaugh, has this nasty thing about blowing 2nd half leads. 17 of which were double digit leads that ended in losses for his team.

    Harbaugh, inherited a team with HOFers on the side of the ball he specialized on.

    My guess is that you’re insinuating Lamar Jackson is why Harbaugh got fired, when in reality not being able to win in the postseason WITH Lamar Jackson is kind of an indictment on Harbaugh in and of itself.

    Maybe going from 12-5 to 8-9, says more than it says anything.

    Considering Jackson was hurt and maybe the fact the team since drafting Jackson is 4-11 when Jackson misses games says he’s more valuable from a player standpoint and 100% for a salary cap standpoint than Harbaugh.

    Jackson’s first year as starter he got every single MVP vote from the AP, and that same AP gave Harbaugh COY nods for that 1 decision.

    Look, I’m answering questions you didn’t even ask because I realize the lights are on but not all your dogs are barking and need some help troubleshooting the bio-computer between your ears.

  50. Tye Says:

    Refreshing to see that there are actually players that have football intelligence and not all brainwashed meatheads!…

  51. Canabuc Says:

    My hope is that whichever offensive coordinator we sign is one who has a pedigree that can become our head coach. By that I mean that if his side or the ball does very well this here but overall our record is poor or the defense is very poor and it is still Todd doing the play calling, that he gets fired and the offensive coordinator becomes our new head coach.

    Hoping for McDaniel!

  52. HC Grover Says:

    Anything at all will be above my expectations for Buccaneer Bowzoville.

  53. AlstottNumber1 Says:

    The answer is really quite simple. Bowles is a protected person.

    And the Glazer kids are going to profit no matter what the record of the team is ultimately.

    They can use the Bucs as a slush fund for their soccer team in Europe.

    Bowles is going nowhere and he has cover from Licht and Arians as well.

    I’m just lowering my expectations until sanity returns.

    8 or 9 wins is the max per season on average unless the OC is great, then 10 is the max. This is due to the Swiss cheese defense.

    Worst case scenario for 2026 is a full on collapse that lasts all season from the beginning to the end. In that case I’ll say 3 to 5 wins max.

    We are what we thought we were. Pathetic.

  54. fanofdabucs Says:

    Jimbo says (in all caps) THAT HARBAUGH WAS NOT FIRED…and then says to google it.

    You can’t make this stuff up..yes he was indeed fired dummy. Tomlin was the coach THAT QUIT..try to keep up

  55. SB~LV 🏈 Says:

    Allsott
    Bowels might not be going anywhere but the fans are
    They will stay at home and the RayJay be taken over by the visiting team fans every home game!
    They probably but more beer and food than the season ticket holders so the Bumbling G’Boyz don’t really care…. Enough!

  56. Oscar Says:

    Steelers going to interview Ejiro Evero for their HC job. The Panthers defense was no joke. Steelers know coaching talent. Tomlin probably recommended him. The Panthers proved that you can have a good defense without a top line pass rush. That defense gave Stafford and the Rams fits. 4 picks I think over two games.

  57. Oxycondomns Says:

    glazers are in save money money just like after winning first super bowl

  58. Obvious One Says:

    I’m with Grover in this tread and plenty of others BUT DEFINITELY it’s TIME…..

    Time for New Blood in Ownership! The “Glazer Group” DO NOT HAVE ANY PASSION FOR THE NUMBER ONE REASON WE ALL TUNE IN…. “WINNING”!

    The Glazer whom loved His Team has passed, the now owner “ENTIRE GROUP” Couldn’t Care Less! And therefore operate As So..

    Not being Aggressive “Pre Season End” said all we “AS FANS”, MUCH LESS POST SEASON whom FEED this absentee “Group”, Has CLEARLY Shown their Colors and ALL we Need to know about the ABSOLUTE NECESSITY OF NEW PASSIONATE OWNERSHIP!

    What about from a PURE BUSINESS PLATFORM? BECAUSE This has become such a lousy business model. SO SLOPPY! NO ONE is in the Wheel House! THAT is NOT how you run a Tight Ship!

    Just Screaming it Out There….

  59. OLDSCHOOL1976 Says:

    Harbaugh wants full control of personnel which I believe he pretty much had in Baltimore. The receivers stunk, they brought in D. Henry. Mark Andrews and Lamar are about the only decent offensive players. We need someone who is younger and more energetic and can actually coach especially on Offense side.
    We need to figure out if we are missing the grades on these drafts or is the current staff unable to develop them. Way too many picks turn into complete duds especially on defense. I bet if asked Todd he’d say Morrison had a better season than Egbuka. ( hint: this is the answer to my question)

  60. Oscar Says:

    Baker is catching some of the flak! Just read some of the posts. Not nearly the flak that Bowles is getting but his share nonetheless.

  61. Tom Petty Says:

    Rachaad was right about Bucs fans 😎
    He was way too nice but..

  62. Conte Piscatelli Says:

    Sadly it speaks to the standard of lack of standards for this organization. Mediocre is good enough, certainly good enough if it means eating a bad contract extension and admitting a mistake. The Glazers make business decisions based on money because they are not and never have been football people. They don’t have a burning desire to be the best, and it bleeds through to everyone else when ownership isn’t invested in winning. May I remind you these Glazers are Nepobabies, they never build anything, that was all Malcolm, who understood struggle and accountability.

  63. JackBall Says:

    Fire Bowles. He is not a defensive genius. The D has sucked for a number of years.

  64. Aqualung Says:

    TJ Ward speaks the truth.

    Jason and the Glazernauts really humped the cat.

 

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